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Old 05-20-2020, 04:33 PM
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Quick question:
Is this car the same size as Lexus UX?
Not it's a lot larger; the UX is the same as the CH-R.

This is larger than the RAV-4 and NX, slotting in between the RAV-4 and Highlander in both size and price (the equivalent of slotting between the NX and RX on the Lexus side of things).
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Not it's a lot larger; the UX is the same as the CH-R.

This is larger than the RAV-4 and NX, slotting in between the RAV-4 and Highlander in both size and price (the equivalent of slotting between the NX and RX on the Lexus side of things).
I think wheelbase is mostly identical to the RAV-4, so any additional length goes likely to the sportier design, so interior is likely the same as a RAV-4/NX never the less;
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Interesting work by Toyota here, further dividing their CUV offerings.
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I think wheelbase is mostly identical to the RAV-4, so any additional length goes likely to the sportier design, so interior is likely the same as a RAV-4/NX never the less;
Same 105.9 inch wheelbase and 5.7 inches longer than the Rav-4 at 186.6 in total. Interesting.

Different sausages, same wheelbase. How GM of Toyota.

For comparison :

The first Harrier (RX300) was 103.1 in / 180.1 in
The second (RX330/RX300/RX350/RX400h) was 106.9 in / 186.2 in

I'm predicting a shorter than usual run for this oddity.
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Different sausages, same wheelbase. How GM of Toyota.
Except that Toyota consistently produces high-quality, desirable cars.

I assume the extra length comes from the more rakish backlight.

As far as sales go, we'll have to see since there isn't a formal MSRP yet. Toyota sells as many RAV4s as it can build, so it's not like they need the added volume this car will bring for profitability.

But, as you point out, the larger question is, "Why is Toyota bothering to produce this?" especially when Toyota itself is predicting annual sales of "only" 50,000 (I assume that's US-only).

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Old 05-25-2020, 10:02 PM
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It could serve as a higher end hybrid Rav-4. (which has a higher end plug in variant??)
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Old 05-25-2020, 10:21 PM
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(which has a higher end plug in variant??)
I just checked the Toyota website. No plug-in variant in the US, at least. Toyota has actually been very reluctant to move forward w/ BEV (none so far, AFIK) and I think it uses nickel batteries in some cars (almost as a social justice issue, I think it said).

I presume that some (much?) of Toyota's reluctance is that it, like Hyundai, sees hydrogen as the future.
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Rav-4 Prime is plug-in. Supposed to be quick.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...e-photos-info/
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Rav-4 Prime is plug-in.
Right! Totally forgot about that. 0-60MPH in ~5.5 sec, which is indeed quick. It will be interesting to see what the price is for that since I imagine it will not be cheap, and I don't know if the world has been crying out for an expensive RAV4....
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Rav-4 Prime is plug-in. Supposed to be quick.

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a2...e-photos-info/
I have 2 friends that have tried to order the Prime version - they've been told don't bother. The wait is +6 months.
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