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Old 11-04-2019, 06:41 AM
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Looking at Maserati's future, here is the upcoming roadmap



Curious, next year an all new sportscar, electric at that, yet nothing testing? or did I miss some prototypes?
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Old 11-04-2019, 08:46 AM
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In alfa news, GTV and 8C cancelled

https://www.motor1.com/news/379837/a...-8c-cancelled/

Pretty sure alfa didn't perform any development of the GTV, no mules were testing, if any were it was at private tracks.

Guess crosovers make the most sense for them.
It makes a lot of sense, to me, the whole GTV and 8C were anyway more or less dead at birth concpets, the whole coupe market is shrinking away, with rumors of Mercedes killing of the S and C Coupes, no words on a Lexus RC replacement (and at Audi, the A5 SB seems to comfortably outsell teh reuglar 2 door, so I wouldn't be surprised if the A5 ends up being a coupe sedan only in next gen), smaller ones like the TT simply becoming CUVs. IN that climate, Alfa would be crazy to put money into a mid sized coupe that no one will buy anyway. Whilst enthusiasts seem to be lud in forums, they are usually horrible customers, waiting for second hand cars or buying just a poster.

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Curious, next year an all new sportscar, electric at that, yet nothing testing? or did I miss some prototypes?
FCA usually has really short prototype cycles, so anything more than say 6 months away, is usually not out in the streets. They also avoid that month-long official prototype teasing that some brands (VAG, cough cough, Land Rover, cough cough) seem to enjoy recently...

Then again, I'm sure that the whole PSA Merger (given how quickly things went now, the whole background procedure must have been going on for a while) certainly also has put some delays on on or the other product time lines, not that FCA was usually to much on time with launches anyway.
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Old 11-04-2019, 05:50 PM
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The official birth of the merger could be signed next month(before Christmas) :)

At this time I guess we will know the name of the entity
I go for PSAFCA
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Old 11-06-2019, 11:07 AM
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The Giulietta on RWD platform made no sense to begin with either (even if a RWD compact in the sense of the Brera concept sounds and would look nice), so maybe will see it later based on the PSA FWD platform (EMP2 resp. its successor)

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The Giulietta on RWD platform made no sense to begin with either (even if a RWD compact in the sense of the Brera concept sounds and would look nice), so maybe will see it later based on the PSA FWD platform (EMP2 resp. its successor)
Well a RWD Giuletta would depend a lot on how scalable the platform really is; SO far, the Stelvio and Giulia share pretty much an identical setup with same track/wheelbase, so we don't know for sure; Main thing for me is that so far, the platform only uses large (>2 l ) engines, so how much work it would be to adapt a smaller engine family for the C-segment (let#s be honest, C-segment hatchbacks happen nowadays mostly with sub 1.5 mostly 3 cylinders, larger engines only in low volume hot hatch versions); If the car had volume, and say a Lancia relative to increase that even more, it could work, but in FCA's current (pre and probably also after merger) condition, pitting it on a FWD platform makes a lot more sense. And EMP2 would be a very competent starting point.

Sure, a RWD Giulietta would have made the new BMW Focus a bit ridiculous, but FCA is not in the position to try that...
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Old 11-10-2019, 04:23 PM
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Does anyone think that the combined PSA/FCA group would be wise to pull out of the Chinese market, given that FCA sells next to no cars there, and PSA's sales have dwindled from circa 750,000 units in 2015 to under just over 90,000 so far in 2019?
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I don’t think that’s wise; I think they just need to streamline. Jeep sells a few units in China, and PSA did at once point sell a lot of models. I think they need to figure out how to get sales up.
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Old 11-11-2019, 07:27 PM
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I donít think thatís wise; I think they just need to streamline. Jeep sells a few units in China, and PSA did at once point sell a lot of models. I think they need to figure out how to get sales up.
Jeep's currently the biggest selling of the PSA/FCA brands that operate in China, but its sales are in free fall. From 200,000 in 2017 to 124,000 in 2018, and just under 52,000 so far in 2019.
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