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Old 06-01-2020, 10:50 PM
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Well said. I am here in Columbus, OH, and I have marched and walked and watched people get maced and tear-gassed completely unprovoked. I can't understand how people don't understand why ANYONE wouldn't be at least a little angry about that?
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That said - if some protesting Floyd and those issues HAVE resorted to destruction, I don't entirely blame them. They have tried everything for YEARS and are rightfully frustrated. That doesn't make it "ok," but I won't prioritize avoiding some property damage over the death of a man and countless others. Iím also in no position to tell black people and others who experience racism daily how to feel or respond to this. Try as I might, I will never know what it must be like to be in their shoes.
I don't blame them, and I certainly don't think the rage is unjustified.

What I do think, though, is that history would indicate that rage and destruction met w/ rage and destruction generally does not result in meaningful or lasting change....
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Old 06-02-2020, 12:32 AM
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I don't blame them, and I certainly don't think the rage is unjustified.

What I do think, though, is that history would indicate that rage and destruction met w/ rage and destruction generally does not result in meaningful or lasting change....
I don’t disagree, but again history has also indicated that nothing else has resulted in any change either so *shrug*
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Old 06-02-2020, 01:32 AM
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history has also indicated that nothing else has resulted in any change either so *shrug*
We'll have to agree to disagree on that last point. Things have not changed nearly enough. But to say that things have not changed at all is not accurate, IMHO.
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Admittedly, I don't watch much news (by design), but I think part of the problem is that the Republicans aren't using discussing white supremacy much at all. If anything, they are directly and indirectly adding to the problem and emboldening white supremacists.

I am unaware of Democrats *as a party* using *white supremacist* outside agitator rhetoric...
I wasn't saying that the electeds were just putting a white supremacist spin on outside agitator rhetoric, I was saying that outside agitator rhetoric of any kind is inherently white supremacist. By implying that the worst of the unrest is coming from some nefarious outside source, local officials are trying to obfuscate the true cause of the unrest (being bad at their job) and delegitimize the anger of the black community.

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