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Ascariss
12-16-2004, 09:43 PM
old thread:<br><A HREF="http://carspyshots.proboards2.com/index.cgi?board=spy&action=display&num=1090959509" TARGET="_blank">http://carspyshots.proboards2....59509</A><p>]<IMG SRC="http://server6.uploadit.org/files/andref-CMsanty1.JPG" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://server6.uploadit.org/files/andref-CMSanty2.JPG" BORDER="0"><p><br><A HREF="http://www.racers.co.kr/MHboard/index_form/view.php?no=143723&&page=8&category=2&table=gallery" TARGET="_blank">http://www.racers.co.kr/MHboar...llery</A><p><IMG SRC="http://server6.uploadit.org/files/andref-SantafeCM.JPG" BORDER="0"><p>A few new ones from Pascalpierart:<p><IMG SRC="http://pascalpierart.free.fr/photos/script/albums/userpics/10001/Prototype%20HYUNDAI%20Santa%20Fe%20photo%2001.JPG" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://pascalpierart.free.fr/photos/script/albums/userpics/10001/Prototype%20HYUNDAI%20Santa%20Fe%20photo%2002.JPG" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://pascalpierart.free.fr/photos/script/albums/userpics/10001/normal_Prototype%20HYUNDAI%20Santa%20Fe%20photo%20 03.JPG" BORDER="0"><br>Source: Pascalpierart.free.fr<p>more pics in older thread.<p><br>Expected: 3.3 and/or 3.8 V6 making 230 and 265 respectively. Five speed Autobox with three rows of seats, Borg-Warner transfer case for the AWD system. Should start production in January 2006, and be on sale a month later.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Andre at 10:10 AM 3/29/2005</i>

knicks125
12-20-2004, 12:44 PM
Putting this in both places...<p>Spy shot from TCC dated 12/20/04 (today) <p><A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?n=178&sid=178&article=7857" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co...=7857</A><p>It's getting bigger...

Ascariss
12-20-2004, 12:59 PM
CGI looks ok, nothing major though, and I still have a feeling it will look differently.

jro4566
12-20-2004, 06:23 PM
Hopefully it has the rumored 3.8L VVT in it. The upcoming Sonata's 3.3L VVT with its 230+HP doesn't seem so spectacular in the SUV crowd...especially with most manufacturers putting out about 260+HP.

knicks125
12-20-2004, 06:28 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jro4566</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hopefully it has the rumored 3.8L VVT in it. The upcoming Sonata's 3.3L VVT with its 230+HP doesn't seem so spectacular in the SUV crowd...especially with most manufacturers putting out about 260+HP.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Hyundai is using the 3.8L V6 engine in the new TG (XG), which is coming out soon, putting out over 266 hp. Do you think they will use that in the new Santa Fe? If so, that will be nice <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

LEXUS FAN!
12-20-2004, 09:55 PM
the new TCC CGI is awful...it is not accurate at all...it over exaggerated the front hood<p>the headlight is more square than triangle too

geary
12-21-2004, 04:03 AM
They need to make it bigger to stay out of the Tucson's sales. I sense the Terrcan may be ditched... anyone else think so too?

megadethmartyr
12-21-2004, 10:24 AM
as of right now the 3.3L is only engine that is confirmed. Remember that engine is capable of being tuned much higher. Not to mention Hyundai has only said 230+ for that engine. They have never said an exact figure. Also, current specs have this Santa Fe being roughly the size of a Pilot/Pathfinder/Explorer. The Tucson and the Santa Fe won't even be playing on the same field.

Santeno
02-11-2005, 10:00 AM
The cleanest Pics yet courtesy of Bobaedream:<p><A HREF="http://bobaedream.co.kr/board/data/data_view.php?code=special&No=29804&page=1&select=&content" TARGET="_blank">http://bobaedream.co.kr/board/...ntent</A>=

knicks125
02-11-2005, 10:22 AM
nice find Santeno thanks!<p>wow...it looks a lot bigger than I first thought...this is gonna be big (bad word - let's use huge, or generate a lot of buzz) when it comes out, just like the popularity it received when the first gen came out...can't wait <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

nismo
02-11-2005, 10:33 AM
for some reason I can't see them.. can someone post them here?

knicks125
02-11-2005, 12:01 PM
Here you go:<p><A HREF="http://img195.exs.cx/img195/4232/santafe18na.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img195.exs.cx/img195/4232/santafe18na.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://img195.exs.cx/img195/8489/santafe26sv.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img195.exs.cx/img195/8489/santafe26sv.jpg</A><p>Source: Bobaedream<p>I made them into links, just click on the link and you should see them<p>let me know if somehow you still can't <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

nismo
02-11-2005, 04:52 PM
Thanks I can see them now.. its sort shaped like the VW Toureg. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

Hornbag
02-11-2005, 05:03 PM
OMG, look at the size difference between the Tuson and the Santa Fe! They are very similar in size now arnt they, correct me if im wrong. I hope they calm down the styling, and i pray to go that they dont put the same grille thats on the sonata on this car! Please, nooooooooo.....

knicks125
02-11-2005, 05:54 PM
The current Santa Fe and the new Tucson are very close in size, but that's going to change in a year or so. With the Santa Fe getting bigger, a lot bigger, obviously seen from the picture. Don't worry, this SUV is going to make you forget about all your Fords <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> Anyway, from the looks of it and where they are going, I'd think the new and bigger Santa Fe would be a lot more agressive, while sporting a new styling and a larger engine (obviously, that goes without a saying). Just as it did in the small SUV category, when it moves into the midsize SUV class, it would still become a popular veichle around the world and don't think it would lose any of the momentum it had seen since it was first introduced <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>BTW...what's wrong with the Sonata grille? I don't think there's anything wrong with it?

CarMattZu777
02-11-2005, 10:01 PM
Are you guys sure this is that much bigger? It looks about the same to me and kind of small for a 7 passenger.... Maybe we Americans have just become desensitized as to the size of SUVs, what was big 5 years ago is small now.

megadethmartyr
02-11-2005, 10:08 PM
It's not going to be huge, but roughly the size of a Pilot. I personally think 3rd rows in mid size SUV's is a gimmick. I have yet to find one that has much of a useable 3rd row (new pathfinder for example, that thing is horrible). But these days people will buy them just to avoid a mini van.

Top Secret
02-11-2005, 10:10 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hornbag_1</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OMG, look at the size difference between the Tuson and the Santa Fe! </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I see no pictures of the Santa Fe and the Tucson side-by-side...anything I'm missing?

Andre
02-12-2005, 01:06 AM
yeah...<p><A HREF="http://pascalpierart.free.fr/photos/script/albums/userpics/10001/normal_Prototype%20HYUNDAI%20Santa%20Fe%20photo%20 03.JPG" TARGET="_blank">http://pascalpierart.free.fr/p...3.JPG</A>

OlsenHyundai
02-13-2005, 08:21 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CarMattZu777</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are you guys sure this is that much bigger? It looks about the same to me and kind of small for a 7 passenger.... Maybe we Americans have just become desensitized as to the size of SUVs, what was big 5 years ago is small now. </TD></TR></TABLE><br>yeah, it looks smallish for a 7 passenger SUV 'cause it's a 5-seater <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0"> There's is a longer 7-seat version for the US market.

megadethmartyr
02-13-2005, 12:19 PM
Sorry, you're wrong on that one. There is only one wheelbase. The only vehicle Hyundai will sell with a "streched" wheel base will be the van (being that the Kia version will have a shorter version available). Someone's blowing smoke up your butt.

OlsenHyundai
02-13-2005, 01:27 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>megadethmartyr</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sorry, you're wrong on that one. There is only one wheelbase. The only vehicle Hyundai will sell with a "streched" wheel base will be the van (being that the Kia version will have a shorter version available). Someone's blowing smoke up your butt.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Um, I've seen both versions up close <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> ...and I'm certainly not the only one...there are others, couple thousands of them including dealers, suppliers, Hyundai engineers/technicians, designers and this guy on GMInsidenews: <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cool.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>"I'll try to get more pics, i know where these guys have been hanging out. theres another LONGER santa fe running around with these guys. im real bummed i didnt get a better shot of the van.. it was virtually un cammoed, just with tape on it. <p>all of them had GREAT interiors. nice fit and finish. <p>the problem i was having was my camera has a few second delay after the button is pressed. so by the time the camera snapped the pic, it had moved out of frame.<p>they were putting up good resistance to me and my wife shooting them, but we aint skeerd.<p>lol"<br><A HREF="http://forums.gminsidenews.com/showthread.php?t=7046" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.gminsidenews.com...=7046</A><p><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by OlsenHyundai at 1:40 PM 2/13/2005</i>

megadethmartyr
02-13-2005, 02:45 PM
Right, you're basing your info from a GM site. If you think you've seen a "streched" Satna Fe, you should most likely stop smoking crack. If you still believe it, ask yourself what Hyundai makes sure is a key buyers point. VALUE! By doing streched version you lose the idea of value because of increased cost. You are most definately NOT in the "know". Hell, Hyundai is only going to offer a long version of the van as to meet the top end van price point. Think before you post. Then, slap yourself. BTW, yes I have seen the new Santa Fe, no you aren't right.

megadethmartyr
02-13-2005, 02:55 PM
For your info, I was in Cali last week. Even still have the boarding pass stubs. Tell me this, do your parents regret having children?

Naga Royal Guard
02-13-2005, 02:56 PM
arite, keep discussions clean and constructive please

megadethmartyr
02-13-2005, 02:57 PM
Sorry Naga, we have a troll here.

Andre
02-13-2005, 03:52 PM
from different angles I've seen the Santa Fe looks longer from some angles than others, and different cladding makes it look longer as well. (the cladding on the mules in Korea make it look larger than the shots I've seen from the US and Europe, where they are using fake metal panels as well as cloth)<p>I'm wondering though if there is a stretched mule <br>A) why we haven't seen spy shots of it<br>B) if it may be something else, something where Hyundai shut pieces of the new Santa Fe around a new platform to throw people off<br>C) if Hyundai considered it, but scratched it because they aren't THAT stupid <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

Andre
02-13-2005, 03:59 PM
I know this breaks the rules and I'm apt to get a nasty email from someone, but here<p><IMG SRC="http://img195.exs.cx/img195/8489/santafe26sv.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://automobiles.honda.com/images/banners/2005/pilot/exterior_gallery/large14.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>source: <A HREF="http://www.hondacars.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.hondacars.com</A><p>and even better:<p><IMG SRC="http://www.toyota.com/images/vehicles/highlander/gallery/exterior/large/photo_7.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>source: <A HREF="http://www.toyota.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.toyota.com</A><p>Both those SUVs are three rows, the Toyota Highlander's is a tad small IMO, but it's only meant for Children. I think the Fe looks bigger. keep in mind the current Santa Fe has a third row seat in korea as well, and the new one is significantly larger.

megadethmartyr
02-13-2005, 04:07 PM
I agree the Highlander is kinda small in that regard. You nailed it with the Pilot comparison.

knicks125
02-17-2005, 12:20 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Andre</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know this breaks the rules and I'm apt to get a nasty email from someone, but here</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Andre, I don't know what you did wrong, you just pasted the next gen Santa Fe from my account (which I took from Bobadream), no sweat...it's not like I took the actual picture, or anything like that.<p>In fact I should be the one getting an email from Bobadream <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>It's all good <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

r0b
02-17-2005, 01:05 PM
This is a pic from TCC! Looks like there's a third row of seats....<br> <A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/gallery/8749_image.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co...e.jpg</A> <br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Ascariss at 2:18 PM 2/17/2005</i>

knicks125
02-17-2005, 01:07 PM
i heard hyundai is going to offer both as options...5 seater and 7 seater <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

bolita
02-17-2005, 02:58 PM
Looks like Hyundai has another winner with this one <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

megadethmartyr
02-17-2005, 08:27 PM
I have only heard about a 7 seater. With the new folding system started with the Tucson (which should be on the new Santa Fe) it really shouldn't matter too much.

CarMattZu777
02-17-2005, 08:59 PM
Well, I hope thereis a full size Hyundai SUV in the works. I think to be truly accepted in America, they need one. An extended version would not be a bad idea. Or just a whole other SUV altogether, maybe like the Kia Mesa concept.

trueblue
02-24-2005, 06:20 AM
<I>link removed, do not advertise without permission and do not post a site who know one can read</I><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Ascariss at 5:45 PM 2/24/2005</i>

knicks125
02-24-2005, 05:37 PM
thanks for the link but what do you want us to do with it? Can you give us a direct page of the next gen santa fe?<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Ascariss
02-24-2005, 05:47 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks for the link but what do you want us to do with it? Can you give us a direct page of the next gen santa fe?<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Jack sh** apparently. He just signed up today and posted the link so people would visit. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/all_coholic.gif" BORDER="0"> Don't advertise trueblue, you have recieved your first warning. NEXT time post a direct link to the images or the ARTICLE. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/angry.gif" BORDER="0">

knicks125
03-28-2005, 05:37 AM
I've been told that the new Santa Fe should start prouction in the US plant starting early next year, possibly in Jan. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>so that means we should be able to see the Santa Fe unveiling sometimes late this year...my best estimate is for the Paris unveiling, and Detroit for NA unveiling, same route as the new Sonata took <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

bolita
03-28-2005, 01:39 PM
Early next year? I thought it would be available this fall! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0">

Andre
03-28-2005, 02:09 PM
I dunno, it seems everything is a year later than we expected, than what I was originally told. I was originally told the Sonata would be on sale June 2004, and the Santa Fe would be an 06 available in Fall 05, but the Sonata is appearing in May 2005, with the Santa Fe in probably Spring 06

knicks125
03-28-2005, 04:17 PM
Right on Andre. But it's better late than never. <p>Despite being late, the final products that came out have more than well-received and surprisingly well-done (Tucson, Sonata, Azera, Accent). I would expect the same thing from Hyundai on its new Santa Fe, Elantra, and the new minivan.<p>Hyundai is not the only automaker behind its schedules, many others are the same. One of the reasons for Hyundai is to make sure all of the bugs are worked out and the customers receive the best product possible and the new plant receive a good score, and others...<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by knicks125 at 8:38 PM 3/28/2005</i>

toontoy
03-28-2005, 07:31 PM
Anyone have any info on the miniva? The "Entourage" should be in NA by december i have heard.

knicks125
03-29-2005, 04:04 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>toontoy</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anyone have any info on the miniva? The "Entourage" should be in NA by december i have heard.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I haven't heard anything about it lately...but I know the minivan is coming after the Santa Fe, either slotting between the Santa Fe and the Elantra, or after Elantra, or maybe something else...

Andre
03-29-2005, 08:04 AM
<A HREF="http://www.theautochannel.com/F/news/2003/09/04/168023.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.theautochannel.com/....html</A><p>"Vehicle production will begin in Ulsan, Korea in June 2005, and in Hope Hull, Alabama, in January 2006. Front-wheel drive and four-wheel drive models will be available, along with 4-cylinder and V6 engines."<p>Three months until production starts Knicks. Wonder how Hyundai will intro it... probably like the Sonata. Quietly in Korea, no big fanfare, just slip it onto the production line.

knicks125
03-29-2005, 08:09 AM
Thanks Andre for the article <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>So my source was right on target...January start date for production in the US. I have a feeling that the Santa Fe will start selling a year from now, if they are giving the consumers the products from Ala. <p>If from S. Korea, now that's a different story, probably can push up the date to late this year <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

Dodger
03-29-2005, 08:20 AM
This new Santa Fe will obviously just be another success story for Hyundai. They definitely will have no problem reaching their sales target.<p>A little off topic but does anyone (knicks, mega) know when the new Elantra will show up?

knicks125
03-29-2005, 08:26 AM
Agreed...given the popularity of the Santa Fe which it was first introduced, this new one will have no problem at all meeting its sales target.<p>The Elantra, well, we saw the infamous spy shot from TCC, people were wondering why the testing so early...and then we saw some more shots but people argued it was the Optima. Regardless, we should see the Elantra sometimes next year, but most likely as a 07 model. There is a really good chance the Elantra will have a V6 engine and a 6 speed. And, just like the Sonata, the V6 will have the dual exahust. Look for the Elantra to be more sportier, especially on the GT model, and to be more powerful and use less gas consumption (translate to better mpg) <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

Dodger
03-29-2005, 11:05 AM
Thanks for the info <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

hunbin11
04-05-2005, 02:26 PM
Check this out! Someone made this image with Photoshop, and it seemed to be a reasonable one. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bow.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><A HREF="http://www.bobaedream.com/board/data/data_view.php?code=national&No=49342" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bobaedream.com/boar...49342</A>

knicks125
04-06-2005, 05:29 AM
nice find...looks very reasonable, i'm impressed <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

Andre
04-06-2005, 08:16 AM
It looks a bit chunkier than the spy shots, but certainly seems to be reasonable

r0b
04-06-2005, 08:32 AM
The rear, specially the third window resambles to the Lantra '96 Wagon! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/2cool.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by r0b at 8:43 AM 4/6/2005</i>

knicks125
04-06-2005, 08:34 AM
yeah somewhat...<p>what is that thing in the front window (looks like leaves or something), by the driver side?

Santeno
04-06-2005, 08:52 AM
I thought the lights were supposed to be stacked vertically and not horizontally like on the sonata?

knicks125
04-07-2005, 01:07 PM
These are, to date, the most impressive spy shots I have seen of the new Santa Fe...good find, zorro <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Although the only one looks promising is the first picture <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> , the rest were too small in size, can't really see any details, especially the interior (which is the first time I saw pictures of the interior of the new Santa Fe) but can't get a good read... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Any ideas as to why the last few pictures came out so small, maybe the URLs were the preview mode <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1zhelp.gif" BORDER="0">

zorro
04-07-2005, 01:12 PM
Try again...<p><A HREF="http://www.bobaedream.co.kr/board/data/data_view.php?code=national&No=49419&page=1&select=&content" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bobaedream.co.kr/bo...ntent</A>=<p><A HREF="http://www.bobaedream.co.kr/board/data/data_view.php?code=national&No=49418&page=1&select=&content" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bobaedream.co.kr/bo...ntent</A>=<p><A HREF="http://www.bobaedream.co.kr/board/data/data_view.php?code=national&No=49417&page=1&select=&content" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bobaedream.co.kr/bo...ntent</A>=

drugmirko
04-07-2005, 01:18 PM
is this going to be just majur restyle or new car?

knicks125
04-07-2005, 01:25 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>drugmirko</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is this going to be just majur restyle or new car?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It's a major restyle and a new car...bigger and more powerful, not to mention it's going to be moving to the mid-size class, any many more changes <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Thanks zorro for the repost...as i expected...very impressive and promising...the begining stage of what looks like to be a cool mid-size SUV is about to take place...this should be a great product for Hyundai as they enter the mid-size class and to compete with others in the same class

swedefe
04-09-2005, 05:45 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>hunbin11</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Check this out! Someone made this image with Photoshop, and it seemed to be a reasonable one. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bow.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><A HREF="http://www.bobaedream.com/board/data/data_view.php?code=national&No=49342" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bobaedream.com/boar...49342</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Looks to me as if the guy behind the ps just got a clear shot at the front end somewhere, somehow - and then match it to a twisted form of the old "SM" body?<p>The photos however indicates that the car is "ready".<p>No one of the earlier spyshots and compuimages have even tickled my "want to have" button - but these do!<p>Might not order that new Terracan after all...<p>Swedefe<p>

knicks125
04-13-2005, 12:26 PM
I've been told the sketch might have been leaked internally <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

hunbin11
04-13-2005, 02:09 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've been told the sketch might have been leaked internally <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I do not think so. Actually, the original source of that picture is Autospy.net (Korean website) at which the person who made it revealed his name (not to mention IP address). I do not think anyone inside the company would or could do that. For now, I think it would be safer to say that it is just the creation based on spyshots. but, it's been said that the sketch is very close to real car. Do you remember the similar sketch of TG (Azera) posted before it was introduced? It was not accurate but reasonably close, and I think we have to think of this sketch as the same type of work. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bow.gif" BORDER="0">

knicks125
04-13-2005, 02:18 PM
Thanks for the clarification. That helps.<p>Further explains most rumors are still just rumors...

hunbin11
04-13-2005, 02:28 PM
Thanks, Knicks. For further clarification, the following link is TG sketch I talked about. The signature seems to be the same for both sketch (works of the same person). Obviously, that guy should be recruited by Hyundai. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> Have a nice day. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bow.gif" BORDER="0"> <br><A HREF="http://www.bobaedream.com/board/data/data_view.php?code=national&No=47847&page=3&select=Subject&content=tg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bobaedream.com/boar...nt=tg</A><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by hunbin11 at 2:34 PM 4/13/2005</i>

knicks125
04-15-2005, 10:55 AM
Agreed...<p>then this person must have seen the product up and close, otherwise he/she would not have been able to come up with the sketch so accurately as the real thing, on the Azera and hopefully the CM...unless the person's psychic or something<p>I think he has some strong tides/connections with HMC, despite claiming non-internal <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

r0b
04-16-2005, 07:24 AM
I think the author got inspired by the old (e)lantra, the doors & 3rd window and the part below <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>Check it out!<p><IMG SRC="http://img151.echo.cx/img151/908/compare4dm.jpg" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by r0b at 7:36 AM 4/16/2005</i>

knicks125
04-16-2005, 01:09 PM
lol...i hope that's not the author b/c that elantra does not live up to his other inspirational works <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

swedefe
04-19-2005, 01:45 AM
Now <I>thats</I> a c-pillar...<p>The "estate" version of the sedan Elantra wasen't really much of a design thing, was it? Just a loadspace attached to the untouched sedan body to my recognition anyway - hence the horrid lines from c-pillar and backwards.<br>Cheap and effective productionwise - yes! Anything else? No!<p>In the lines of the "CM"-sketch I see nothing but current Santa Fe "SM" at the glass area height from A to C pillar - the vagueness in design and details towards the rear of the car in the sketch is in sharp contrast to the detailed and homogen description of the front end - there are even headlight washers drawn in!!!<p>My impression is that the guy behind the sketch has most probably seen a one angle photo, a mockup or got a quick eye at the front end, but never got the chance to do a full 360.<p><br>Swedefe

swedefe
04-19-2005, 02:07 AM
The pictures posted at bobaedream supplies much info; The next gen Sanya Fe will obviously have a 2 zone klimasystem, and the tire size seems to reach 235/65 x 17 - at least to "my olde eyes" - anyone against?<p>But - where is the car heading? <br>It is obviously prepared for airfreight - hence labels in windshield.<p>It doesnt give the impression of beeing a testvehicle - look at all the plastic coverage in the interior - even the inside doorpanels are protected at the fragile edges, just like the shipping protection of a new car right out of the production line. <p>My guess is that this is a pre-produktion heading for promo and advertisment shooting in "exotic" environment. <br>Do the industry still work this way, or are promopics built in computers these days?<p><br>Swedefe<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by swedefe at 2:16 AM 4/19/2005</i>

Andre
04-19-2005, 08:17 AM
From what I've seen recently, car companies take photos in a studio from promo shots, with a monotone background, sometimes one or two shots on the street outside the studio or something. Once the car is unveiled they then do a lot of the "exotic" shots

Excellerator
04-23-2005, 11:04 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>r0b</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br><IMG SRC="http://img151.echo.cx/img151/908/compare4dm.jpg" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE><p>I just thought of something... since we have a photoshop forum on this site, how about some of us here do a photoshopped picture of what you think the next Santa Fe will look like (or what you want it to look like)? I'd do it, but I'm limited to using a WebTV/MSNTV instead of a computer.<p>I got a feeling it's going to look like a cross between an enlarged Tucson and a 06' Sonata. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bow.gif" BORDER="0">

Ultomato
04-24-2005, 02:51 PM
i think it will look like a taller more sharper lined Infinity FX

goldsuv
04-30-2005, 07:01 AM
Here is a picture from the Junre issue of Automobile magazine. <A HREF="http://automobilemag.com/2007_sneak_preview/0505_hyundai_santa_fe" TARGET="_blank">http://automobilemag.com/2007_...ta_fe</A>/

Excellerator
04-30-2005, 02:18 PM
Thanks for the link, but I think Auto Mag chose the worst picture to base their opinion on. The should have used the sketch of the SF a little ways above your post (the black SF from the front-angle). That's actually the most accurate picture I've seen yet. Why didn't they use a spy shot instead? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

megadethmartyr
04-30-2005, 08:50 PM
That's a relatively old picture. Let me do something real quick. i am going to send both the picture and sketch to a friend and see which one is accurate.

LEXUS FAN!
04-30-2005, 08:52 PM
the lights have a little Acura MDX in them

megadethmartyr
05-01-2005, 11:13 AM
Okay, the drawing isn't accurate. The picture (silver one) is the most accurate. That is coming straight from Fountain Valley.

OlsenHyundai
05-02-2005, 12:04 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>megadethmartyr</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Okay, the drawing isn't accurate. The picture (silver one) is the most accurate. That is coming straight from Fountain Valley.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Actually both are drawings and the silver one is way off.

Andre
05-02-2005, 04:20 PM
Silver is from a Spy photographer, not Fountain Valley. It's a photoshop

megadethmartyr
05-02-2005, 07:53 PM
Ididn't say the picture was from fountain valley, the info was. The silver one is the closest. I will send the email to Naga.

JBlair
05-02-2005, 07:58 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>megadethmartyr</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ididn't say the picture was from fountain valley, the info was. The silver one is the closest. I will send the email to Naga. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Thats a bad chop made from a picture of the Pilot. If it looks like this Hyundai will disappoint A LOT of people.

megadethmartyr
05-02-2005, 10:34 PM
i'm not sure how much of it is accurate, I was just told it's the MOST accurate.

r0b
05-03-2005, 06:58 AM
It was posted on bobaedream some time ago...<p><IMG SRC="http://img225.echo.cx/img225/1162/santafe7gh.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>

Andre
05-03-2005, 07:44 AM
I will personally say the chop is far off from what I've seen here, that drawing is the most accurate because it looks like it's based off a spy shot.. I think fountain Valley may be trying to throw you off course, maybe you should cross check with someone else

megadethmartyr
05-03-2005, 10:08 AM
I see what you mean, I will check out a few other people<br>

megadethmartyr
05-07-2005, 06:47 PM
I made a few more checks and everyone seems to agree that the silver is the CLOSEST, it's not right, but it's the closest. The blue one does have some things right.

swedefe
05-23-2005, 03:20 PM
Swedish edition of Auto, Motor & Sport points out this autums Frankfurt Motorshow as the most likely place for the European premiere of Santa Fe "CM"<p><br>Swedefe

megadethmartyr
05-23-2005, 07:24 PM
I have heard it was going to be there, but I can't confirm it. The Santa Fe is being held very close.

hunbin11
05-28-2005, 09:42 AM
Interior spy shot.....<p><IMG SRC="http://server3.uploadit.org/files/epitherm-special1117250070.jpg" BORDER="0">

nismo
05-28-2005, 12:44 PM
Looks good, similar to the Sonata... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

r0b
05-28-2005, 02:07 PM
Wow! Every new Hyundai looks better! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/2cool.gif" BORDER="0">

Golferdude
05-28-2005, 03:51 PM
<A HREF="http://img1.imageuploader.net/995/True_CM.JPG" TARGET="_blank">http://img1.imageuploader.net/995/True_CM.JPG</A>

knicks125
05-28-2005, 09:28 PM
hunbin - thanks for the sharing of the new spy pic - looks good, those lights look cool <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Golferdude - great comparisons, thanks for that <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

megadethmartyr
05-30-2005, 10:44 PM
Damn nice pic find. Damn nice. I am hoping every day my firned was wrong about the drawing and it does turn out like that.

Kam
06-05-2005, 07:50 AM
Has the Santa Fe got anything to do with this concept:<p><IMG SRC="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y27/u****ingwankers/untitled.bmp" BORDER="0"><p>Enjoy<p>Source: Autoweek

FordRules
06-05-2005, 09:24 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't worry, this SUV is going to make you forget about all your Fords </TD></TR></TABLE> ummm no people who buy fords like me wouldnt buy a hyundai ec : bobs driving in his new ford gt "holy crap its the new hyundai elantra,i want it soooo bad im defintly selling my 2005 550hp ford gt for that" , can you ever see this happening.......no

r0b
06-05-2005, 09:32 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ford_gt_rules</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> ummm no people who buy fords like me wouldnt buy a hyundai ec : bobs driving in his new ford gt "holy crap its the new hyundai elantra,i want it soooo bad im defintly selling my 2005 550hp ford gt for that" , can you ever see this happening.......no</TD></TR></TABLE><p>This sounds like a lack of self-confidence to me! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>

knicks125
06-05-2005, 09:45 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ford_gt_rules</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> ummm no people who buy fords like me wouldnt buy a hyundai ec : bobs driving in his new ford gt "holy crap its the new hyundai elantra,i want it soooo bad im defintly selling my 2005 550hp ford gt for that" , can you ever see this happening.......no</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I wrote that ages ago (all the way on the first page, took me a while to actually find it), and, I was just kidding around with hornbag, no need to take it so serious...<p>My neighbor admits himself that his family cannot get out of the domestic circle...simply b/c they don't look "outside the box", despite there are other non-domestic (non-us brand) cars that are worthy looking into and compare...<p>buying a certain brand of cars is the choice to each own, but not cross-shopping, I think, is being ingorant and not giving another brand a chance (which certaintly is the case for many people when they look at hyundais). <p>btw, comparing gt and elantra <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0"> funniest comparison i have heard in a while<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by knicks125 at 12:53 PM 6/5/2005</i>

SV
06-05-2005, 10:12 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ford_gt_rules</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> ummm no people who buy fords like me wouldnt buy a hyundai ec : bobs driving in his new ford gt "holy crap its the new hyundai elantra,i want it soooo bad im defintly selling my 2005 550hp ford gt for that" , can you ever see this happening.......no</TD></TR></TABLE><p>to point out the painfully obvious, a GT and an elantra are completely different cars. a better ford to compare with the elantra is the focus, which is a $13,000 economy car like the elantra, not a $100,000+ supercar <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>back on topic: wow, that interior spy shot is great. yep, hyundai is a force to be reckoned with now <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

megadethmartyr
06-05-2005, 01:30 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Kam</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Has the Santa Fe got anything to do with this concept:<p><IMG SRC="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y27/u****ingwankers/untitled.bmp" BORDER="0"><p>Enjoy<p>Source: Autoweek</TD></TR></TABLE><p>No, absolutely nothing, that's the old Mountaineer concept. THat's a few years old.

dcibrando
06-13-2005, 05:51 AM
so does anyone have any idea WHEN the new Santa Fe will come out? late 2005? sometime in 2006 (to be a 2007? I'm anxious to trade in my 2001 SF for the new model! :)

knicks125
06-13-2005, 05:54 AM
1st half of 06...I would say sometimes between Jan. and March. Production in Ala. to begin late this year. Domestic market (in S. Korea) will get it before we do), as always <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Most likely it will be a 06 model but there is a chance it will be a 07, but if that, release would be pushed back...

dcibrando
06-13-2005, 06:18 AM
what are the estimate prices? $30,000?

knicks125
06-13-2005, 06:49 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>dcibrando</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what are the estimate prices? $30,000?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I highly doubt it would be that high...my feeling is that it would be in the mid 20s, with a loaded SF being in the upper 20s.<p>Given the size upgrade, price increase is inevitable...

dcibrando
06-13-2005, 07:31 AM
anyone know if a navigational system will be an option?

knicks125
06-13-2005, 07:52 AM
This is purely my guess, and I don't think navi will be offered initially but eventually will be an option at later time; however, I think navi will be offered right away for its home market.<p>The decision on whether to offer navi or not has a lot to do with price, given hyundai's pride is on value <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

megadethmartyr
06-13-2005, 04:37 PM
It's slated to arrive in Jan of 06 as an 07. NAV should be a dealer installed option on ANY Hyundai by Christmas.

OlsenHyundai
06-13-2005, 08:56 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>megadethmartyr</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's slated to arrive in Jan of 06 as an 07. NAV should be a dealer installed option on ANY Hyundai by Christmas.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Commercial production begins in March. <br>

dcibrando
06-14-2005, 04:18 AM
so basically we couldn't purchase one until after March? Or around Jan 06?

dcibrando
06-14-2005, 06:46 AM
I think I lost you... I guess my question is when will they be available in the US for purchase?

knicks125
06-14-2005, 07:01 AM
The earliest would be in Jan '06 but realistically the timeline puts it at March '06 or later - my guess<p>But, if Santa Fe was to follow the trend of the first four new products Hyundai has unveiled, which I think it would, this is an SUV worthy waiting, if you ask me <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Sorry about my last post...I didn't read clearly what you were asking...deleting

megadethmartyr
06-14-2005, 08:43 AM
You are most likely right knicks on the timeline. Hyundai is NEVER on time. I was informed that the NAV is supposed to readily available at dealers in late fall.

OlsenHyundai
06-14-2005, 09:29 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>dcibrando</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so basically we couldn't purchase one until after March? Or around Jan 06?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Officially, the release date is Spring 2006. That's what Hyundai has been saying all along since the summer of 2004. The job 1 info is from my Korean source.<br>

Comrade
06-14-2005, 09:42 AM
Korea has Seoul <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

dcibrando
06-14-2005, 10:12 AM
yea.. a local hyundai dealership just told me expect it late 2006

megadethmartyr
06-14-2005, 03:44 PM
"Production is slated to start on the Santa Fe around the same time as you guys get the Azera, give or take a few weeks." THat was a phone call I just had with someone with a 714 area code. Any west coast guys know that area? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

knicks125
06-14-2005, 04:52 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>dcibrando</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea.. a local hyundai dealership just told me expect it late 2006</TD></TR></TABLE><p>late 2006? That's late next year - I don't think it would be that far off from now, early next year is the last confirmation I was told.<p>Mega, 714 is LA, orange county, few of my friends have phone numbers with 714 area code

megadethmartyr
06-14-2005, 05:51 PM
Rumor has it it's also the area code @ Hyundai Motor America...

knicks125
06-14-2005, 07:02 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>megadethmartyr</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Rumor has it it's also the area code @ Hyundai Motor America...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>LOL...how funny would it have been if they were actually telling the truth <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0">

megadethmartyr
06-14-2005, 11:22 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>LOL...how funny would it have been if they were actually telling the truth <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>????<br>If you mean the exact release date, I agree with your laughter, don't take any date Hyundai says to heart. Nonetheless, the Santa Fe's "release" period is and always has been Jan. 06, which as you pointed out Knicks means March.

dcibrando
06-16-2005, 06:33 AM
Does anyone know exactly when the navigation system for Hyundai will be in the dealerships and available to install in the new Sonatas?

knicks125
06-16-2005, 07:14 AM
See info from mega <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>megadethmartyr</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You are most likely right knicks on the timeline. Hyundai is NEVER on time. <B>I was informed that the NAV is supposed to readily available at dealers in late fall.</B> </TD></TR></TABLE>

dcibrando
06-17-2005, 05:17 AM
ok if I get a navigation system when they come out... does it include the cd/mp3 player built into the navi system as well? I'm looking at the new sonatas and might want a navi in it... but will it replace the cd/mp3/radio?<p>here's a link with a pic of it<br><A HREF="http://www.ottawahyundai.com/oh04/news/news16.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.ottawahyundai.com/oh04/news/news16.html</A>

knicks125
06-17-2005, 08:03 AM
not positive but i would think the navi would include cd/mp3 if the new sonata already comes standard with the mp3 feature. I would talk to a local dealer and see what they say and if they are able to install it for you. Hyundai Mobis would be the manfacuturer for the navi, i believe - <A HREF="http://www.mobis.co.kr/eng/html/business/bu01_qhead_01.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.mobis.co.kr/eng/htm....html</A>, and they just opened up a new operation in Ala.<p>We'll see how things shape up whether or not the new Santa Fe will come equipp with Navigation Systems as an option...

dcibrando
06-17-2005, 12:42 PM
well i just talked to the local sales rep and he said it wouldn't be available on the sonata until next year????? :( is this true

OlsenHyundai
06-17-2005, 01:07 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not positive but i would think the navi would include cd/mp3 if the new sonata already comes standard with the mp3 feature. I would talk to a local dealer and see what they say and if they are able to install it for you. Hyundai Mobis would be the manfacuturer for the navi, i believe - <A HREF="http://www.mobis.co.kr/eng/html/business/bu01_qhead_01.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.mobis.co.kr/eng/htm....html</A>, and they just opened up a new operation in Ala.<p>We'll see how things shape up whether or not the new Santa Fe will come equipp with Navigation Systems as an option...</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Hyundai Mobis does not "produce" navigation "system" or terminal.<br>The factory in AL assembles cockpit modules for HMMA.<br>

knicks125
06-17-2005, 03:53 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>dcibrando</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i just talked to the local sales rep and he said it wouldn't be available on the sonata until next year????? :( is this true</TD></TR></TABLE><p>possibly due to local/regional availablity

megadethmartyr
06-17-2005, 04:50 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>OlsenHyundai</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Hyundai Mobis does not "produce" navigation "system" or terminal.<br>The factory in AL assembles cockpit modules for HMMA.<br> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Actually, Mobis' full name is <U>HYUNDAI</U> Mobis. They do in fact design and make all of the products (NAV, wheels, DVD player, etc.) They are based in the California for the U.S. The parts can ONLY be ordered through a Hyundai dealers parts department, however they don't share the same warranty as the vehicle. Essentially they are an aftermarket company Hyundai owns. All of the Navigation systems in the rest of the world on Hyundai vehicles are in fact made by Mobis. Hyundai has final say on any and all products. R & D has a heavy hand in the products.

OlsenHyundai
06-17-2005, 05:22 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>megadethmartyr</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Actually, Mobis' full name is <U>HYUNDAI</U> Mobis. They do in fact design and make all of the products (NAV, wheels, DVD player, etc.) They are based in the California for the U.S. The parts can ONLY be ordered through a Hyundai dealers parts department, however they don't share the same warranty as the vehicle. Essentially they are an aftermarket company Hyundai owns. All of the Navigation systems in the rest of the world on Hyundai vehicles are in fact made by Mobis. Hyundai has final say on any and all products. R & D has a heavy hand in the products.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>NAV, wheels, DVD player,...no they don't make any of those. they do manufacture or should I say assemble, some auto parts, but I'm not gonna bore you with the laundry list here. One of them is the ESC HECU, put together from Bosch kits. <br>It appears they set up some kind of retail parts operation in CA, bypassing HMA, but whatever that is, it's a very small part of Mobis. The current NAV system supplier of Hyundai is either HyundaiAutonet or LG.<br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by OlsenHyundai at 5:44 PM 6/17/2005</i>

dcibrando
06-17-2005, 08:22 PM
can someone check with their local hyundai dealership and see when it will become available for the sonatas?

knicks125
06-17-2005, 09:16 PM
OlsenHyundai, both you and mega have more knowledge in the brand than I do but from what I read, Hyundai Mobis does in fact make products such as Navi for Hyundai and Kia products. I've had a chance to visit its corporate website and it confirms what mega was saying. That said, I think I also heard something about autonet and lg but Mobis is exclusively controlled by Hyundai and autonet/lg, I believe, are just third-party suppliers.<p>dcibrando, I see you want the Nav system just as bad as mega and I <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> I will put in a call to my local Hyundai dealer here and see what he says...mega said nov. and I think that timeline is fairly accurate.<p>The next ('07) Santa Fe and the 07 Sonata will hopefully have it as an option but I will try to see if I can have it before that <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

swedefe
06-17-2005, 10:41 PM
Yeah yeah yeah - but I want to see some real pics of the CM <i>now</i>!<p>It should actually be in production right now, back home in Korea - according to the odd announcement made by BorgWarner years ago! <p>How come we haven't had any uncamoed pics yet?<p>Go navigate yourselves to the Korean sites and see what you guys can come up with; at least you know the language - we here in Sweden stayed home in the fifties... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"><p><br>Love from Sweden<p><br>

swedefe
06-22-2005, 10:37 PM
Sry guys! Didn't mean to kill the thread; I'm just sick for some pics!<p>Wearing my SM thin right now - need to see the full car before deciding...<p>Swedefe<br>

Andre
06-23-2005, 12:05 AM
lol.. I want to see them too. have to contact Hyundai and yell at them for taking so long.

knicks125
06-23-2005, 05:41 AM
Same here, I think it will definitely be excited to see the new Santa Fe, especially the upgrade (in size) <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

CC
06-24-2005, 08:51 AM
I've caught something:<p><A HREF="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y27/u****ingwankers/hyundai_suv.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i2.photobucket.com/albu...v.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y27/u****ingwankers/hyundai_suv_drvr.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i2.photobucket.com/albu...r.jpg</A><p>Enjoy

Andre
06-24-2005, 10:19 AM
I usually would threaten to ban you for taking credit for photos you did not take, but I'm thinking we may just ping your ISP and file a formal complaint

Excellerator
06-25-2005, 10:15 PM
edit: Thanks for pointing that out; I understand now.<p><i>Modified by Hyundai_Fan at 1:31 AM 6/28/2005</i><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Hyundai_Fan at 1:34 AM 6/28/2005</i>

Andre
06-25-2005, 10:41 PM
If you read the threads about the "member from hell" in the lounge, You'll know what I meant.

megadethmartyr
06-28-2005, 04:37 PM
Went and read that thread, that's unfortunate that he doesn't have something better or constructive to do. To add to the Santa Fe, apparently the Sante Fe and Elantra are expected around the same time. That is NOW (and most liekly to change 6-7 times) March of 06.

Andre
06-28-2005, 10:14 PM
Cool. Seeing as we are currently settled with cars We will def. look to purchase one of those three when the time comes to get rid of the truck. (Nissan is a temporary thing, btw, just so we can get a few things done around the house and care for the boat we have until its owner gets back from deployment. We'll be looking for either a large V6 family vehicle, probably an SUV or station wagon since we need the back area now, or a 4 cyl manny commuter. Depends on the budget at the time)<p>If you can provide any more info for either car please do (in the appropriate thread)<p>I'd also like to know about those Elantra/Optima spy shots

jberrer
06-30-2005, 09:03 AM
Any idea when and where the new santa fe will be unvailed? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1zhelp.gif" BORDER="0">

Andre
06-30-2005, 09:45 AM
If it goes on sale next Spring (Same time as the Sonata did this year) then it will probably be unveled at North American International (Detroit)<p>Like the Sonata though, the Korean version may have a quiet launch in the fall.

jberrer
06-30-2005, 02:42 PM
thanks for the info. I'll keep my eyes open..

Ascariss
07-04-2005, 02:51 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jberrer</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Any idea when and where the new santa fe will be unvailed? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1zhelp.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>now....<p><IMG SRC="http://premium1.uploadit.org/ascariss//SFefront.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://premium1.uploadit.org/ascariss//SFerear.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Thanks to baldz for the pictures. It looks pretty damn nice I have to say.

Speedster S
07-04-2005, 02:58 PM
I hope this is the real deal. This thing does look good.

knicks125
07-04-2005, 03:00 PM
I'd have to agree with Ascariss, this looks great <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Thanks baldz for the pics, and Ascariss for hosting it for us. One question, where were these pics taken? It looks like this is RHD car.

Ascariss
07-04-2005, 03:02 PM
they were taken in australia for the launch of the new sonata.

Dodger
07-04-2005, 03:04 PM
There is a lot of bumper underneath the headlights which looks a little out of place and I wish they would have gotten rid of that liftgate handle. Other than that, this is a really nice SUV. If people are shopping for an SUV and this is not on their list, they are screwing themselves.

Luwalira
07-04-2005, 03:17 PM
The rear looks great and so does the head light but then they mess up. Whats up with the grill and all that black plastic bumper stuff at the lower front. The car could have looked so good. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsad.gif" BORDER="0">

SV
07-04-2005, 07:34 PM
my god! i completely forgot about this car until i was looking in the facelifted getz thread and ascariss mentioned that the SUV in the background of the picture was the CM santa fe. i was expecting it to be good, but when i looked at the front i really thought it was a concept car; way better than i expected. the rear end is nice, but fairly dull. i'm glad they kept that liftgate handle design, though, i really like it on the current santa fe. the interior a few pages back is great too; hyundai is definitely a force to be reckoned with now. heck, that goes without saying <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

Swallow Doretti
07-04-2005, 09:08 PM
Notice in the background of the second Santa Fe shot there appears to be a photo of the new Elantra. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

SV
07-04-2005, 09:54 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bgluckman</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Notice in the background of the second Santa Fe shot there appears to be a photo of the new Elantra. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>that's the sonata, actually. unless the new elantra looks very similar. i can't wait for the elantra to come out either, though <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Ascariss
07-04-2005, 10:00 PM
To the left through the side window not the car on the right.

SV
07-04-2005, 10:02 PM
oh, oops <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0"> too bad they didn't take any pictures of that too.

r0b
07-05-2005, 12:59 AM
I think is the new Accent! The rear of Santa Fe has a bit of Mazda3, but it looks damn HOT!

Swallow Doretti
07-05-2005, 04:27 AM
Definitely not the new Accent (which has triangular taillights) or the new Sonata (which has a harder edge around the leading edge of the trunk).<p>The new Santa Fe looks great, BTW.

r0b
07-05-2005, 05:14 AM
Not exactly the same angle, but i think it could be the accent!<p><IMG SRC="http://img279.imageshack.us/img279/9591/accent9on.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>

knicks125
07-05-2005, 05:26 AM
Frankfurt worldwide debut or Paris, any guesses? I would think it would go with the Sonata route, then Paris it is; and Detroit for NA debut.<p>On the possible elantra, just to be sure, are we talking about, in the first picture, to the right of the Santa Fe (front shot); and in the second picture, to the left of the Santa Fe (rear shot)?<p>r0b, I think that car looks to big to be the Accent...but I am not certain <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

against the wall
07-05-2005, 08:07 AM
wasnt the accent unveiled already? wasnt it the hyundai at ny with the fugly front.

knicks125
07-05-2005, 08:12 AM
Yes it has. although i'm not sure if it has made its way down under yet, as these shots were taken in the introduction of the Sonata down there. The good news is that, Accent should be on sale fairly soon, here in NA.<p>I like the new Santa Fe. Agressive styling for one, and I'm glad Hyundai kept the liftgate operation in the back - i like that a lot, fairly unique overall. Good design. If the Sonata is any indication, which I believe this is also, this should be up there with Sonata, in many elements.

fyundai
07-05-2005, 08:37 AM
I have to agree with Knicks on the rear hatch handle. Not only is it an interesting design detail, it is incredibly functional. As a current Santa Fe owner, I was a little disappointed that the Tucson didn't carry this detail.<p>Anyone else see how close that 3rd row seat is to the back glass? This does not appear to be an adult sized seat. I guess, its more marketing than function.<p>I love this new look. A mix of some of RX330, GMC concepts. and Sonata.

r0b
07-05-2005, 08:51 AM
.....begin production of the 2007 Santa Fe sport utility vehicle in spring of 2006.....<p><A HREF="http://www.hyundai.com.au/company_news_200505.asp" TARGET="_blank">http://www.hyundai.com.au/company_news_200505.asp</A>

knicks125
07-05-2005, 09:00 AM
The timeline sounds about right...<p>What would be the engine for the new Santa Fe, any news on that? I would like to see the 3.3 V6 base, 3.8 V6 on the GLS/LX trim ??<p>fyundai, the third row does appear to be fairly small, although not exactly a great shot from that angle, as it does not appear to be clear, will have to wait for some interior shots to be more certain how large the third row it actually is. Most midsize SUVs with three rows generally have very small legroom anyway.

fyundai
07-05-2005, 10:11 AM
Knicks, you are correct, of course. Most mid size utes have little room in the third row of seats, and we won't know much about this Santa Fe until more detailed info is released. But, the seat appears to be very close to the rear glass.<p>As to powertrains, I have heard for N.A. 3.8 and 3.3 with 5 speed autos. There is more focus inside HMA on the Azera, Accent (which has been delayed at least 1 month), and the Entourage, all due before we see this vehicle.

goldsuv
07-05-2005, 10:57 AM
I think we are seeing one leaf of a fold-flush third row seat like in the new Sedona. This would give 2-3-2 seating.

bolita
07-05-2005, 11:28 AM
Wow, I good step for the Santa Fe. This new styling will definitively pick up sales for the Santa Fe IMO as the 3 row seating.

knicks125
07-05-2005, 02:50 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>fyundai</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As to powertrains, I have heard for N.A. 3.8 and 3.3 with 5 speed autos. There is more focus inside HMA on the Azera, Accent (which has been delayed at least 1 month), and the Entourage, all due before we see this vehicle.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Good info there, fyundai, thanks! So that means the new Santa Fe would be the 6th of 7 new cars hyundai has promised to release. Tucson last Thanksgiving, Sonata late this spring, Accent late this summer?? Azera this Thanksgiving?? Entourage late this winter (in 06) ?? Santa Fe late next spring (06) ?? And finally Elantra in the fall of 06 ?? Is the timeline somewhat of a good estimate for the five cars yet to go on sale?

synthesis
07-05-2005, 04:37 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>fyundai</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have to agree with Knicks on the rear hatch handle. Not only is it an interesting design detail, it is incredibly functional. As a current Santa Fe owner, I was a little disappointed that the Tucson didn't carry this detail.<p>Anyone else see how close that 3rd row seat is to the back glass? This does not appear to be an adult sized seat. I guess, its more marketing than function.<p>I love this new look. A mix of some of RX330, GMC concepts. and Sonata.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>How is the handle more functional than a regular (center mounted) handle above the license plate? Or right below it?<p>I guess the reason I don't like it is symmetry. There is no other asymmetrical piece on the vehicle, so why oh why couldn't they put in the center? It was the one thing I disliked most about the current SF and I was really hoping they would get rid of it.

knicks125
07-05-2005, 05:25 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>synthesis</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>How is the handle more functional than a regular (center mounted) handle above the license plate? Or right below it?<p>I guess the reason I don't like it is symmetry. There is no other asymmetrical piece on the vehicle, so why oh why couldn't they put in the center? It was the one thing I disliked most about the current SF and I was really hoping they would get rid of it. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I guess for me it's different, it's something you don't see on other SUVs. So, it's an unique design and I give Hyundai props for keeping it <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> Actually I think a lot of current SF owners like such design element and SF being a very popular SUV since its initial sale a few years ago, I am sure that's one of the reasons Hyundai kept it. Keeping it in its original form on the next Santa Fe will continue to make the SUV more popular than ever.

oldthudman
07-05-2005, 08:28 PM
From La Blog Auto: New Santa Fe <p><A HREF="http://www.leblogauto.com/2005/07/scoop__hyundai_.html#more" TARGET="_blank">http://www.leblogauto.com/2005...#more</A><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/banana.gif" BORDER="0">

Andre
07-05-2005, 08:42 PM
Something, having had three rental Santa Fes, I find about the handle is that it is easy to use, easy to grasp, pull, and pull the door with, unlike having to twist your hand under the license plate garnish, push a button, then pull up in the door. despite the appearance of the door handle, its functionality is quite good.

Andre
07-05-2005, 08:43 PM
Oldthudman, look 1 page back and see that we had those photos first, furthermore, I'm going to contact that website and ask them to credit our website with those photos (as you can see if you look closely, they photoshopped out our logo)<p>thank you for bringing it to my attention.

nismo
07-05-2005, 11:29 PM
It looks good. Still unique but not as awkward as the current model (I do like the current one but I know some people don't like it).<p>I doubt thats the new Elantra in the background because the person would have took a pic of it also it can just be the new Accent or current Elantra. <p>All this info on the new Hyundai's but Kia's new cars can't be spied... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

AXLE
07-06-2005, 02:35 AM
wow that looks cool, much nicer than the current rhino-like santa-fe.

megadethmartyr
07-06-2005, 07:04 AM
As far as powertrains, the 3.8L is sure bet, whether or not they are going to do a standard and optional engine like the current model I'm not sure. Don't be surprised if a 6 speed auto makes an apperance, being that one has been being developed since the XG300.

rasmien
07-10-2005, 11:12 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Ascariss</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">now....<p><IMG SRC="http://premium1.uploadit.org/ascariss//SFerear.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Thanks to baldz for the pictures. It looks pretty damn nice I have to say.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Is it a 7-seater?

rasmien
07-10-2005, 11:41 AM
Yes, both Fyundai and Kniks125 noticed, not me :).<p>Old SF is a 7-seater?

knicks125
07-10-2005, 02:08 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>rasmien</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes, both Fyundai and Kniks125 noticed, not me :).<p>Old SF is a 7-seater?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>nope, it only had two rows

LEXUS FAN!
07-10-2005, 03:34 PM
<A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/Enthusiasts/Spy_Shots/Spy_Shots_07_Hyundai_Santa_Fe.S178.A8891.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co....html</A>

knicks125
07-10-2005, 04:29 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>LEXUS FAN!</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/Enthusiasts/Spy_Shots/Spy_Shots_07_Hyundai_Santa_Fe.S178.A8891.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co....html</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p>hehe...we saw the uncovered car already <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Does anyone know where this was shot? Looks like european plates, anyone able to read that white road sign behind those trees?

Dodger
07-10-2005, 04:56 PM
Wow, those are some pretty big wheels- they fill the wheel wells quite nicely.

goldsuv
07-10-2005, 06:55 PM
They look like optional 19" wheels like the BMW X5 has.

Andre
07-10-2005, 10:17 PM
Actually, in some places Knicks, the current Santa Fe is indeed a three row SUV

swedefe
07-11-2005, 02:51 AM
Achtung, baby! <br>Photo shot in Germany - maybe in the surroundings of Rsselsheim where Hyundai has located it's european testcenter.<p>Anyone noticed the nerdy people inside? <br>Wonder if those guys have a telcon each morning to coordinate clothes...? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><br>Please look at the prevoius pics! <br>Isn't there a colour missmatch between bumpercladding and bodypanel?<br>Still PS? Normal fluctuation? Just me beeing a suspicious old fart?<p><br>Swedefe

endnnew
07-11-2005, 04:49 AM
actually, my papa is working for Hyundai motor company group as an excutive. And he saw the actual production model of CM. He told me that it was just incredible. The expectation goes high as Hyundai and Kia are making better cars than before. He said everyone will be surprised when people see the actual new cars from new Sonata. I know that it's a long way to go for such a best in the market, but from new Sonata Hyundai will make massive effect for all customers. I really wanna see their success:). I can't wait to see new Santafe in the market!

knicks125
07-11-2005, 08:18 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Andre</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Actually, in some places Knicks, the current Santa Fe is indeed a three row SUV</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Andre, I am not aware of any, can you post some information regarding the current SF with three rows. Thanks!!

swedefe
07-11-2005, 09:19 AM
The sign that Knicks 125 asked for is announcing that the street ahead is a "construction road" and that entering is done under own responsibility - would guess that the rest of the text implies that normal traffic rules might not apply, and that unannounced obstacles might be present.<p>The licence plate on the dashbord starts with "GG" which equals "Rsselsheim" in my book. <p>Nice car - dunno about the missing bumper though, but I guess "killer jeeps" are sliding out of fashion these days...<p>Swedefe

knicks125
07-11-2005, 09:23 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>swedefe</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The sign that Knicks 125 asked for is announcing that the street ahead is a "construction road" and that entering is done under own responsibility - would guess that the rest of the text implies that normal traffic rules might not apply, and that unannounced obstacles might be present.</TD></TR></TABLE><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> LOL<p>I am not sure what Rsselsheim means, but does GG have something of a manufacturer plate meaning <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

swedefe
07-11-2005, 03:19 PM
No - and yes, actually! <p>All letters before the dash describes, in a very german/logic/akward way the hometown/county of the owner.<p>It turns out that just GG isn't the code for Rsselsheim, but rather the code<br><B>GG - Gro-Gerau (Hessen)</B><p>Actually, the to us autowhackos well known town (OPEL!) lacks own plate-code! It sorts under the lesser known "Major Gerau" in Hessen.<p>As for the tailgating Sprinter van that is visible in the first pic, this one is from an neighboring place; <B>RD - Rheingau-Taunus-Kreis / Rdesheim (Hessen)</B><p>This is a good spot for anyone that wants to get a chunk of the funloving krauts:<br> <br><A HREF="http://userpage.chemie.fu-berlin.de/diverse/doc/kfz.html" TARGET="_blank">http://userpage.chemie.fu-berl....html</A><p>(No offence - I have had some of my best laughs in Germany...)<p>The second row of letters however, are a bit revealing;<p>In the extremly manual and "fifties-like" procedure of handing out licenceplates the German style, it seems as if it is possible to lean on the PIC/"beamter" to somehow gain control over the letters (and figures):<p>One would be surpriced over the number of Beemers roaming Berlin and surroundings with licenseplates beginning with <B>B-MW</B> +digits.<p>Sheer co-incident? Naa....<p><br>Anyway, the CM on the mentioned pics at TCC just happens to have the combo <B>GG-<I>HY</I> 306</B> - not much stealth-mode there...<p>Swedefe - <br>"Abends Bit - morgens fit" <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/drink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>

thedesigner
07-11-2005, 03:20 PM
The current SanteFe is not available with 3 rows... period. The new one has them as an option... and for the record, this makes the Tribeca look like a bloated fumbling oaf. I can't believe Hyundai has a design that could steal RX sales. It's gorgeous. Oh boy... I'm sweating in anticipation for the tibby.

nismo
07-11-2005, 04:53 PM
The CarConnection pics make it look like a mixture of the Infiniti FX and Honda Pilot both really nice SUVs... The FX being one of my favorites <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/2cool.gif" BORDER="0">

knicks125
07-11-2005, 05:13 PM
thedesigner, thanks for the post and agreed, I didn't know any current SF has three rows.<p>And you're right, this is what the Tribeca should've been <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>swedefe, cool post, a lot of useful info there.<p>nismo, I agree with you about the TCC pictures, although the australian pic we saw earlier, imo, showed no similarities, maybe, just maybe the headlight, even then, i can only see them at some angles, to me it's just not enought. But the TCC pic defn. provides somewhat of a resemblence to the fx, and the australian pic doesn't at all.<p>EDIT: can't wait to see the interior, bgluckman said it's supposed to be even better than the Sonata <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>For reference:<p><IMG SRC="http://premium1.uploadit.org/ascariss//SFefront.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Source: CSS <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><IMG SRC="http://www.nissannews.com/multimedia/infiniti2005/fx/800/03_2005_fx45.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Source: Nissan/Infiniti<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by knicks125 at 8:20 PM 7/11/2005</i>

Rugbyplaya91
07-12-2005, 07:37 AM
aawww, party in the front <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/all_coholic.gif" BORDER="0"> loookss good. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

alexr15
07-12-2005, 08:03 AM
Isn't there an interior pic a couple of pages back?<p>EDIT: Yea, thats the one I was talking about.<p><i>Modified by alexr15 at 11:16 AM 7/12/2005</i><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by alexr15 at 11:17 AM 7/12/2005</i>

Santeno
07-12-2005, 08:15 AM
You mean this pic:<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>hunbin11</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Interior spy shot.....<p><IMG SRC="http://server3.uploadit.org/files/epitherm-special1117250070.jpg" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE><br>Can anyone verify that this is infact the interior?

knicks125
07-12-2005, 09:26 AM
Not positive but looks to be fairly accurate, although I would like to see better shots of the interior to be sure.<p>The person who took the australian pics, I assumed he was able to get a sneak peak of the interior, and I am sure the doors were locked and thus for the reason we were only blessed with exterior shots. Perhaps he would be able to provide some insight for us as to his thoughts on the interior.

JBlair
07-12-2005, 09:50 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>thedesigner</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The current SanteFe is not available with 3 rows... period. The new one has them as an option... and for the record, this makes the Tribeca look like a bloated fumbling oaf. I can't believe Hyundai has a design that could steal RX sales. It's gorgeous. Oh boy... I'm sweating in anticipation for the tibby.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>In asia I believe that the current one is available with a 3rd row.

knicks125
07-12-2005, 10:41 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In asia I believe that the current one is available with a 3rd row.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I couldn't find any info regarding the 3rd row in Asia on Hyundai's corporate website and each country's own site. Please provide your sources. Thanks

ConceptVBS
07-12-2005, 04:23 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Santeno</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You mean this pic:<p><br>Can anyone verify that this is infact the interior?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>That IS the interior of the 07 Santa Fe. <p>

Andre
07-12-2005, 04:30 PM
Knicks, I've seen a photo of it, I'm currently attempting to find it. It IS available

Andre
07-12-2005, 04:32 PM
For the record, it can be seen on the Korean hyundai website, though you have to look carefully. It's a small seat which faces backwwards a la Ford Taurus Wagon

against the wall
07-12-2005, 04:53 PM
can u post a link?<br>

knicks125
07-12-2005, 05:23 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Andre</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Knicks, I've seen a photo of it, I'm currently attempting to find it. It IS available</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I might be wrong but I was on the corp. website earlier looking for any evidence the current SF has a third row. In the interiors page, it showed various different configurations of the seats, such as fold down the right second row, left second row or the entire second row, but I did not find anything about a third row. The pictures didn't show a third row either. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

TheJoyof6
07-12-2005, 09:53 PM
<A HREF="http://file2.bobaedream.co.kr/pds/CyberCar/5/46005/img_46005_6.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://file2.bobaedream.co.kr/...6.jpg</A><p>Ok so its folded down, but its there.

Andre
07-12-2005, 11:50 PM
copy and paste the link

against the wall
07-13-2005, 09:07 AM
doesnt look like a whole lotta room for that 3rd row<br>

TheJoyof6
07-13-2005, 09:11 AM
<A HREF="http://bobaedream.co.kr/cyber/CyberCarView.php?number=46005&gubun=KoreaCar&Page=5" TARGET="_blank">http://bobaedream.co.kr/cyber/...age=5</A><p>Every Santa Fe that i have seen on Bobaedream has the 3rd row though they are more like jump seats. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

knicks125
07-13-2005, 09:20 AM
From those pics, it looks like the SF might have a third row, although folded down, as you said. Who can actually sit there in that little of space? and where do bags and luggages go once the seat is folded back up?<p>Thanks for those pics but are there any more clearer shots of the third row, factory installed?

LEXUS FAN!
07-14-2005, 11:54 PM
I was driving on the 405 south today around 3:40 and I saw a car covered in black going the opposite direction. I couldn't tell what it was, but from the spy shots I have seen it looked like the Santa Fe. The reason I would think otherwise is because it was covered from front to back, and even the recent shots are not as covered as much as this. It had cloth covering like how MB covered the early mules and tests of the new ML. Who knows...maybe it was the MLK.

Ascariss
07-15-2005, 11:08 AM
<IMG SRC="http://premium1.uploadit.org/ascariss//santefreinterior.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>IF you want to post this else, you can BUT DO NOT REMOVE THE WATERMARKS and state the appropriate source

knicks125
07-15-2005, 01:29 PM
thanks for the pic...ascariss<p>wow...great improvement over the interior of the current SF...good job Hyundai <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

knicks125
07-16-2005, 09:05 AM
ascariss, were this taken at the same time when we saw the exterior pics?<p>As I said before, great improvement. Had a second chance to look at it in details, well done <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>BTW, the car infront of the SF is the new Azera/Grandeur, and to the left is the new Sonata <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

alexr15
07-16-2005, 02:19 PM
Looks good....except for that steering wheel. The molded plastic must go.

knicks125
07-16-2005, 02:22 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>alexr15</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks good....except for that steering wheel. The molded plastic must go.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Agreed. Let's hope so, good thing this is the pre-production model.

SV
07-16-2005, 02:22 PM
looks great, although it doesn't look as good as that other picture at the beginning of the thread, but that's probably camera flash or something. at any rate, it should be a top-quality interior. i doubt that steering wheel is production, because it wouldn't be a different color than the wheel rim if it was.

autodanse
07-16-2005, 07:51 PM
ack. lets hope thats just awful lighting

scorpio14
07-16-2005, 08:25 PM
YUK that steerin wheel better change in the production model (im sure it will) its should be more Sonata like wit leather covering and audio control.<p>Also that wood-effect around the Transmission thingy also look awful, doesnt even match the rest of the wood-effect in the car (which looks really good)... i think they should either put the same wood-effect like the rest of the car OR put a steel-effect OR just put plastic that matches the seats<p>Otherwise this interior is awesome i love it.... the Rav4 is gonna have to have somethin darn impressive to match this.

StevenZoz
07-16-2005, 08:47 PM
um... its the actual wood with that yellowish plastic wrap tape over it <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0">

autodanse
07-16-2005, 09:21 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>scorpio14</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Otherwise this interior is awesome i love it.... the Rav4 is gonna have to have somethin darn impressive to match this.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>the santa fe is moving up to the midsize playing field. rav4 competes more with the tuscon, i think

Andre
07-16-2005, 09:56 PM
RAV &gt; Tucson<p>Highlander &gt; Santa Fe

knicks125
07-17-2005, 06:40 AM
This is my list of competitors (I am only tossing in import nameplates, non-luxury)<p>Santa Fe: Pilot, Ascender, Sorento, Endeavor, Montero, Murano, Pathfinder, 4Runner, Highlander, XL-7<p>Tucson: CR-V, Rodeo, Sportage, Tribute, Outlander, Xterra, Forester, Vitara/Grand Vitara, RAV4<p>The Santa Fe (and the Tucson) would still have the price advantage, I hope; plus tons of standard features and the kick-ass warranty to undercut the competition.

knicks125
07-17-2005, 08:44 AM
A lot of good info here:<p><A HREF="http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/WebX?14@761.AS8bdAclFp4.2@.ee94f53/4355" TARGET="_blank">http://townhall-talk.edmunds.c.../4355</A><p>courtesy of mike_belknap

Miyka'el
07-17-2005, 03:37 PM
You're welcome! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><U>Latest revisions to the equipment listing</U>: the leather-wrapped hand-brake and rubber cup-grips for the front-seat beverage retainers are out -- a foot pedal-type parking brake and spring-loaded cupholders are in.<p>Here's the other <I>Edmunds</I> thread (nothing you all haven't seen, though): <A HREF="http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.ef8f198" TARGET="_blank">http://townhall-talk.edmunds.c...8f198</A><p>Mike<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Miyka'el at 11:23 PM 7/17/2005</i>

Miyka'el
07-17-2005, 11:45 PM
Nice. Here's my list of SaFe CM North American market competitors: <p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <B>Buick Rendezvous </B>(as long as it lasts, anyway) <br><B>Chevrolet Equinox</B> (to a moderate degree)<br><B>Chevrolet TrailBlazer</B> (to a moderate degree) <br><B>Chrysler Pacifica </B>(to a moderate degree) <br><B>Dodge Durango</B> (to a small degree) <br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <B>Ford Explorer | Mercury Mountaineer<br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> Honda Pilot<br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> Mazda CX-7<br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> Mitsubishi Endeavor<br>Mitsubishi Montero</B> (as long as it lasts)<br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <B>Nissan Murano</B><br><B>Nissan Pathfinder</B> (to a moderate degree)<br><B>Pontiac Aztek </B>(as long as it lasts)<br><B>Saturn Vue V6<br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> Subaru B9 Tribeca<br>Suzuki XL-7</B> (to a moderate degree)<br><B>Toyota 4Runner</B> (to a moderate degree)<br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <B>Toyota Highlander<br>Volkswagen Touareg V6 </B>(LX trim to a small degree)<br><B>Volvo XC90 2.5T</B> (LX trim to a small degree)<p>Mike<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Miyka'el at 11:56 PM 7/17/2005</i>

knicks125
07-18-2005, 05:13 AM
Mike, thanks for all of the great info you provided <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>You have an even better list than the one I posted <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

Miyka'el
07-18-2005, 11:50 AM
Eh, just different. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Take care,<br>Mike

hp1513
07-19-2005, 07:30 AM
<A HREF="http://kr.img.dc.yahoo.com/b4/data/car/001_051_2003_main_03_gosu1973.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://kr.img.dc.yahoo.com/b4/...3.jpg</A><p>family look? lol<br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Santeno at 2:53 PM 7/19/2005</i>

knicks125
07-19-2005, 09:41 AM
what do you want us to look at?

Miyka'el
07-19-2005, 04:25 PM
... but at least a few new details are visible (e.g., it seems that the front mud guards are integrated into the rocker panels).<p><A HREF="http://www.bobaedream.com/board/data/data_view.php?code=national&No=53374&page=1&select=&content=" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bobaedream.com/boar...tent=</A><p>Mike<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Miyka'el at 12:50 AM 7/20/2005</i>

knicks125
07-20-2005, 05:46 AM
hehe...that is defn. a Hyundai product <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I love those wheels <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>can we say 17s standard, 18s optional <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

megadethmartyr
07-20-2005, 09:08 AM
The small flare looks nice over the wheel wells.

Miyka'el
07-20-2005, 04:22 PM
I'd say so. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> After the Lehmann shots (<A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/gallery/9797_BNSUFTWVUHUNN.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co...N.jpg</A>), though, I wonder if we'll be getting something like this: <p><U>GL</U> - 17" 5-spoke<br><U>GLS</U> - 17" 5-spoke (different design); <br><U>GLS with Sports Package</U> - 18" 6-spoke<br><U>LX</U> - 18" 6-spoke <br><U>LX with Premium Sports Package</U> - 19" 5-spoke<p>Ah, speculation! LOL - <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Mike<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Miyka'el at 11:00 PM 7/21/2005</i>

megadethmartyr
07-20-2005, 08:17 PM
Those tires look rediculously wide. Looks kinda lowered too. Supercharge it!

Miyka'el
07-20-2005, 09:23 PM
Heck yes! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/banana.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Take the already impressive <B>3.8-liter CVVT 265-horsepower <I>Lambda</I> V6</B> and put a <B>supercharger</B> in it, add some grippy 5-spoke <B>19" aluminum-alloy wheels</B>, a voice-activated DVD-based <B>navigation system</B>, and rear-suspension <B>Dynamic Toe Control</B> (DTC), and you've just created an X5 4.4i-killer for <I>$20,000 less</I> with better fuel economy to boot! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/eek2.gif" BORDER="0"> Now <I>that</I>, my friend, is some spicy kimchee. And talk about improving Hyundai's image! Sheesh....<p>The really amazing thing is that all of the above are quite possible with the company's resources.<p>Mike

knicks125
07-21-2005, 05:45 AM
You think they are going to bring the GL trim back?<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Miykael</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Heck yes! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/banana.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Take the already impressive <B>3.8-liter CVVT 265-horsepower <I>Lambda</I> V6</B> and put a <B>supercharger</B> in it, add some grippy 5-spoke <B>19" aluminum-alloy wheels</B>, a voice-activated DVD-based <B>navigation system</B>, and rear-suspension <B>Dynamic Toe Control</B> (DTC), and you've just created an X5 4.4i-killer for <I>$20,000 less</I> with better fuel economy to boot! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/eek2.gif" BORDER="0"> Now <I>that</I>, my friend, is some spicy kimchee. And talk about improving Hyundai's image! Sheesh....<p>The really amazing thing is that all of the above are quite possible with the company's resources.<p>Mike</TD></TR></TABLE> <p>Right on <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/driver.gif" BORDER="0">

Miyka'el
07-21-2005, 09:11 AM
"<I>You think they are going to bring the GL trim back?</I>"<p>Well, at first, I too didn't think so... then I started accumulating information on features (both confirmed and predicted). After I finished the two-trim version (provisionally called GLS and LX), it seemed to me that the base price of the vehicle might be a little on the high side, so I rearranged the equipment for three major trim levels (GL, GLS, and LX), which worked nicely. Of course, who knows at this point -- Hyundai may decide to just have a go of it, slap the CM with a couple of trims, some sweet packages, kick back and watch the show!<p>Do you want me to post the full list? The 3-trim version is about 5.5 pages in 10 pt. font, while the 2-trim is currently about 4.5 pages (I'll have to update the latter). My only hesitation is related to its length -- that's why I had to post a completely reworked, rather lame version on <I>Edmunds.com</I>.<p>Mike

knicks125
07-21-2005, 11:08 AM
Anything's possible, as they say... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Good info there, and I agree with your logic <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>5 1/2 pages? Wow, must be a lot of good info...share with us some highlights, as I think there are some "length" limitation on each post here...

Miyka'el
07-21-2005, 03:10 PM
Well, I tell you what: I'll just post it in sections. Now remember, this is only my personal projection of content and organization. As new information becomes available, I'll post the amendments here until we can finally move to the future <I>New Cars 2006/2007</I> section (upon receiving official info and images). <p>If you all have any suggestions, just let me know. Here goes nothin'... --------------- &gt;<p><B>GL | Santa Fe | 2007</B><U></U><br>Standard Equipment (Base model)<br> Four (4) front-hinge swing-out side doors <br> unitized monocoque body construction with perimeter frame, reinforced 4-way member structure, high-tensile steel sub-frame <br> aerodynamic front halogen headlamps with polycarbonate clear jeweled projector lenses, plus integrated driving lights & side reflectors<br> body-color easy-grip door & exterior liftgate handles<br> upward-swinging tailgate with gas-filled struts & pull-grip, separate-opening glass hatch with gas-filled struts & pull-grip<br> liftgate-integrated spoiler with LED-type center high mounted stop light (CHMSL) <br> concealed exterior glass hatch release <br> G6GB <I>Lambda</I> 3.3-liter <B>235-horsepower</B> 24-valve DOHC aluminum-alloy <B>V6 engine</B> with <B>Continuously Variable Valve Timing (</B><B>CVVT</B><B>)</B>, programmed electronic multi-port fuel injection, Variable Intake System (VIS), & 3-way catalyst with EGR<br> <B>front-wheel-drive (</B><B>FWD</B><B>)</B> <br> <B>5-speed</B> electronically-controlled driver-adaptive <B>automatic transmission</B> with <B>Shiftronic</B>; genuine leather-wrapped gear-shift lever with chrome-trim, color-themed insert (Beige: faux walnut, Gray: piano black or faux platinum), & chrome gated plate with cellular phone holder<br> power-assisted RPM-sensing rack & pinion steering <br> fully-independent double-wishbone front suspension with 27mm stabilizer bar <br> fully-independent multi-link rear suspension with 17mm stabilizer bar<br> front & rear twin tube gas-filled hydraulic shock absorbers with coil springs <br> 4-wheel, 4-channel, 4-sensor <B>Antilock Braking System (</B>ABS<B>)</B> with dynamic <B>Electronic Brake-force Distribution (</B><B>EBD</B>: modifies ABS performance according to specific payload placement & road conditions<B>)</B> & <B>Brake Assist (</B><B>BA</B>: utilizes full ABS capability in emergency-stopping situations<B>)</B><br> <B>Traction Control System (</B><B>TCS</B>: anticipates & inhibits loss of control by appropriately & specifically reducing excess wheel spin & dangerously unbalanced power/grip ratios<B>)</B> <br> selectable <B>Electronic Stability Program (</B><B>ESP</B>: automatically hinders destabilizing oversteer & understeer forces by working in conjunction with ABS, TCS, & engine-torque modulators<B>)</B><br> power-assisted 11.8 <B>front ventilated disc brakes</B> with floating twin-piston calipers<br> power-assisted 11.2 <B>rear solid disc brakes</B> with floating twin-piston calipers<br> 4-wheel brake pad-wear indicators <br> foot-engaged/disengaged parking brake pedal<br> chrome-tipped tuned <B>dual exhaust</B> outlets<br> depowered dual-front <B>Advanced Airbag Technology supplemental restraint system (SRS)</B> with multiple deployment thresholds (depending on crash severity) & <B>Passenger Presence Detection (PPD</B>: size, position, & seatbelt usage sensors), plus Passenger Airbag Off indicator light (upper c-stack)<br> driver & front passenger seat-mounted <B>side-impact airbags</B> <br> dual roof-mounted <B>side curtain airbags</B> with coverage for <B>all three seating rows</B><br> <B>active front-seat head restraints</B> (mitigate whiplash injury by moving up & forward during certain collision types)<br> front occupant-positioning <B>belt & bucket pretensioners</B> with <B>collision-force load limiters</B> & height-adjustable shoulder belt anchors <br> anti-intrusion side-impact door beams <br> front & rear crush-zone management with safety stops (designed to dissipate & redirect crash forces away from the occupants in specific types of collisions), reinforced dash side members, & hood scoring <br> <B>3-point</B> active safety belts (shoulder/lap combination) on <B>all seven seating positions</B><br> height-adjustable <B>head restraints</B> on <B>all seven seating positions</B> (front: active-type, 2nd row: passive shingle-type, 3rd row: seatback-integrated)<br> 2nd- & 3rd-row Lower Anchors & Tethers for CHildren<br> safety-design window switches (reduces the chance of unintentional roll-up) <br> <B>remote keyless entry</B> fob with single-stage activation/deactivation of the <B>Vehicle Security System (VSS)</B> plus illuminated entry, panic alarm, & <B>remote liftgate release</B><br> childproof rear doorlock switches <br> drivers power window lockout control button (childproof device that disables all passenger window controls) <br> front & rear <B>power side windows with driver's Auto-up/down feature, obstacle-sensing anti-pinch protection, illuminated switches</B>, & retained accessory power<br> <B>power door locks</B> with anti-lockout feature <br> body-color <B>power dual remote-controlled & heated outside break-away rearview mirrors</B><br> Speed-adjustable <B>cruise control</B> with steering wheel-mounted selection buttons & an indicator light (gauge housing)<br> panel brightness (rheostat) control dial <br> gauge housing includes backlit (<B>blue</B>): tachometer, speedometer, digital odometer with trip computers, fuel level gauge, & coolant temperature gauge <br> warning lights include: oil pressure, battery charge, low fuel, door ajar, liftgate open, airbag(s), driver seatbelt, brake fluid level, ABS engaged, ESP engaged, low tire pressure, & check engine <br> warning chimes include: key in ignition with door ajar, seatbelt, & driving with parking brake engaged<br> quartz digital clock (upper c-stack) with hour, minute, & reset buttons<br> front illuminated ashtray (c-stack) <br> rear ashtray (aft-portion of front center console)<br> four (4) 12V power auxiliary outlets: two (c-stack; one with lighting element) for front-seat occupants, one (aft portion of c-stack) for rear-seat occupants, one in the cargo area<br> <B>full-wrap flat-woven cloth upholstered seating surfaces</B><br> genuine leather trimmed front-seat armrest<br> drivers 8-way manually-adjustable bucket seat with seatback pocket <br> center console with double-tiered, insulated & covered compartment; armrest, coin receptacle, & dual beverage-retainers (with spring-loaded cup-grips & mug-holder capabilities)<br> front & rear door bins with (4) incorporated bottle holders <br> front & rear formed flat-woven cloth door-trim inserts <br> dual front vanity mirrors with <B>visor extenders</B>; overhead illumination<br> <B>flat-folding</B> (both fore & aft) <B>front passenger seat</B> with seatback pocket <br> <B>single-action folding 60/40-split 2nd-row bench seat</B> with center pull-out armrest (including covered <B>dual beverage-holders</B>) & removable seat cushion<br> <B>single-action folding 60/40-split 3rd-row bench seat</B><br> (1) 3rd-row assist grip<br> waterproof washable seatbacks (?)<br> (2) rear assist grip-mounted coat hooks <br> illuminated ignition key-cylinder surround <br> illuminated & lockable glove-box with organizing separator<br> front-seat passengers under-seat storage drawer<br> cargo area netted wall-pocket <br> (5) <B>combination utility floor mats</B> & (1) <B>cargo mat </B><br> premium cut-pile carpeting<br> (2) manual temperature control dials with <B>CFC-free air conditioning & in-cabin filtration</B>, air re-circulate toggle control buttons <br> front- & 2nd-row heater ducts <br> front- & 2nd-row air duct shut-off dials <br> <B>AM/FM stereo</B> with <B>single-disc CD player</B>, six premium speakers, two A-pillar tweeters, & equalizer; CD player is compatible with <B>MP3</B>-encoded compact discs of both WMA & AAC formats; <B>XM Satellite Radio</B> with 3-month free subscription<br> roof-mounted folding bee-sting micro-antenna<br> overhead console with (2) map lamps & sunglass holder <br> center dome light with On, Off, & Door modes plus time delay <br> (2) front red lens lower door-marker warning lights <br> height/angle-adjustable steering column (collapsible during severe frontal impacts) <br> 4-spoke <B>genuine leather-wrapped & padded steering wheel </B><br> cargo area tie-down fasteners<br> (4) cargo area shopping bag hooks <br> (5) assist grips <br> remote fuel filler door, hood, & liftgate release levers <br> deep-tinted heat-rejecting Solar Control <B>privacy glass</B> (aft of the B-pillar)<br> front speed-sensing intermittent windshield wipers & washer jets <br> rear 2-speed glass hatch wiper with streaming washer <br> electrical rear window defroster with timer<br> roof rack side-rails, body-color with unpainted inserts<br> body-color 5-mph bumpers; (2) rear integrated red lenses<br> front & rear bumper-incorporated unpainted protective skid plates<br> unpainted protective rocker panels <br> P235/65-R17 tires with four-wheel <B>tire pressure monitoring system</B><br> <B>17</B> x 7.0J <B>5-spoke aluminum-alloy wheels</B><br> Full-size under-body spare tire<br> 19.8-gallon fuel tank<br> The Hyundai Advantage, Americas Best Warranty: 10-years / 100,000-miles Powertrain Protection, 5-years / 60,000-miles Bumper-to-Bumper Coverage, 5-years / 100,000-miles Anti-Perforation Warranty, 5-years / Unlimited Mileage 24-hour Roadside Assistance.<p><U>GL <br>Optional Equipment</U><br>`Borg-Warner electronic ITM-I variable fulltime <B>all-wheel-drive (AWD) system</B> with dash-mounted <B>driver-selectable center differential-lock button</B> for a continuous 50/50 front & rear power-split<br>__________<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Miyka'el at 12:35 PM 10/26/2005</i>

Miyka'el
07-21-2005, 03:11 PM
<B>GLS | Santa Fe | 2007</B><U></U><br>Standard Equipment (In addition to or instead of GL)<br> <B>automatic on/off headlamps</B><br> <B>fog lamps</B> (crystal lens with smooth reflector)<br> <B>premium cloth-upholstered seating surfaces</B><br> adjustable drivers <B>lumbar support</B><br> front & rear formed premium cloth door-trim inserts <br> <B>steering-wheel-mounted audio controls</B><br> advanced digital trip computer<br> chrome door-sill scuff plates<br> <B>17</B> x 7.0J <B>5-spoke aluminum-alloy wheels</B><p><U>GLS <br>Optional Equipment</U><br>`Lambda 3.8-liter <B>263-horsepower</B> 24-valve DOHC aluminum-alloy <B>V6 engine</B> with <B>Continuously Variable Valve Timing (CVVT)</B>, programmed electronic multi-port fuel injection, Variable Intake System (VIS), & 3-way catalyst with EGR; <B>5-speed</B> electronically-controlled driver-adaptive automatic transmission with Shiftronic<br>`Borg-Warner electronic ITM-I variable fulltime <B>all-wheel-drive (AWD) system</B> with dash-mounted <B>driver-selectable center differential-lock button</B> for a continuous 50/50 front & rear power-split<br>`power tilt/slide <B>sunroof</B> with sliding sunshade<br>`<I>Premium Package</I>: power tilt/slide <B>sunroof</B> with sliding sunshade, 8-way <B>power adjustable driver & front passenger seats</B>, <B>electrochromic auto-dimming</B> inside rearview <B>mirror</B> with integrated <B>HomeLink Universal Transceiver</B> & 8-point <B>digital compass</B>, <B>automatic temperature control</B> with in-cabin air filtration & smog-sensing <B>Air Quality System</B><br>`<I>Premium Sport Package</I>: <B>6-spoke 18 aluminum-alloy wheels</B>, rear-suspension <B>Dynamic Toe Control (DTC)</B>, power tilt/slide <B>sunroof</B> with sliding sunshade, 8-way <B>power adjustable driver & front passenger seats</B>, <B>electrochromic auto-dimming</B> inside rearview <B>mirror</B> with integrated <B>HomeLink Universal Transceiver</B> & 8-point <B>digital compass</B>, <B>automatic temperature control</B> with in-cabin air filtration & smog-sensing <B>Air Quality System</B><p><B>Limited | Santa Fe | 2007</B><U></U><br>Standard Equipment (In addition to or instead of GLS)<br> chrome exterior door handles with body-color inserts<br> Lambda 3.8-liter <B>263-horsepower</B> 24-valve DOHC aluminum-alloy <B>V6 engine</B> with <B>Continuously Variable Valve Timing (CVVT)</B>, programmed electronic multi-port fuel injection, Variable Intake System (VIS), & 3-way catalyst with EGR<br> <B>5-speed</B> electronically-controlled driver-adaptive <B>automatic transmission</B> with <B>Shiftronic</B><br> <B>automatic temperature control</B> with in-cabin air filtration & smog-sensing <B>Air Quality System</B><br> <B>genuine leather seating surfaces</B><br> sliding adjustment for front-seat armrest<br> independently selectable driver & front-passenger <B>seat warmers</B><br> 8-way adjustable <B>power driver & front passenger seats</B><br> front & rear formed genuine leather door-trim inserts<br> <B>telescopic steering wheel adjustment</B><br> <B>electrochromic auto-dimming</B> inside rearview <B>mirror</B> with integrated <B>HomeLink Universal Transceiver</B> & 8-point <B>digital compass</B><br> <B>6-spoke 18</B> <B>aluminum-alloy wheels</B><p><U>Limited<br>Optional Equipment</U><br>`Borg-Warner electronic ITM-I variable fulltime <B>all-wheel-drive (AWD) system</B> with dash-mounted <B>driver-selectable center differential-lock button</B> for a continuous 50/50 front & rear power-split<br>`<I>Sunroof & Audio Package</I>: power tilt/slide <B>sunroof</B> with sliding sunshade, <B>MACH DSP AM/FM stereo</B> with <B>6-disc in-dash CD changer</B>, six premium speakers, two A-pillar tweeters, equalizer, subwoofer, & external amplifier; CD changer is compatible with <B>MP3</B>-encoded compact discs of both WMA & AAC formats; <B>XM Satellite Radio</B> with 3-month free subscription <br>`<I>Limited Sport Package</I>: <B>5-spoke 19 aluminum-alloy wheels</B>, rear-suspension <B>Dynamic Toe Control (DTC)</B>, power tilt/slide <B>sunroof</B> with sliding sunshade, <B>MACH DSP AM/FM stereo</B> with <B>6-disc in-dash CD changer</B>, six premium speakers, two A-pillar tweeters, equalizer, subwoofer, & external amplifier; CD changer is compatible with <B>MP3</B>-encoded compact discs of both WMA & AAC formats; <B>XM Satellite Radio</B> with 3-month free subscription.<br>___________<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Miyka'el at 12:38 PM 10/26/2005</i>

Miyka'el
07-21-2005, 03:17 PM
Ya know, upon seeing that list again, I'm now wondering once more if it will just be two trims.... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1zhelp.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Mike

megadethmartyr
07-21-2005, 04:11 PM
I can say that's not a bad shot at trim levels. However, I can pretty much safely say every sterio will have tweeters. I also wouldn't count out the idea of a power passenger seat. Possibly smart start.

Miyka'el
07-21-2005, 04:53 PM
Thanks, Mega. <p>BTW, I actually did list tweeters on all trims and stereo options. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> About the power-adjustable front passenger seat, I think you may be right -- I was leaning a little more toward how the Sonata is equipped, but, who knows?<p>Thanks again for the feedback -- I'll go ahead and put the power seat as an option on the GLS and standard on the LX.<p>Mike

knicks125
07-21-2005, 06:09 PM
Wow...what a list. Mike, I am impressed. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>As for the trim line, we'll just have to wait and see if Hyundai bring back the GL or continue to say with GLS/LX, or create some kind of new trim line(s) <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>As I said, great list. Keep us updated. I am sure as new information becomes available, one of us here is going to post them in this thread and you can update your list <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

megadethmartyr
07-21-2005, 06:46 PM
I just figured on the seat thing that the XG has em, the Azera will have them, so it only makes sense the new Santa Fe have them, especially considering the new class.

Miyka'el
07-21-2005, 09:03 PM
Thanks, knicks125. I'll definitely keep you all up to date on what I know -- as I'm sure you all will do the same. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/2cool.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Later,<br>Mike

Miyka'el
07-21-2005, 09:08 PM
Well, Mega, that totally works for me! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0"> I suspect we'll know for sure come this September....<p>Cheers!<br>Mike

Miyka'el
07-21-2005, 10:57 PM
It seems that another amendment needs to be made concerning the equipment listing I made: the 6-spoke wheels are apparently 18-inchers.<p><A HREF="http://www.bobaedream.com/board/data/data_view.php?code=national&No=53403&page=1&select=Subject&content=cm" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bobaedream.com/boar...nt=cm</A><p>Is anyone able to navigate this (<A HREF="http://cafe.naver.com/newsantafe.cafe" TARGET="_blank">http://cafe.naver.com/newsantafe.cafe</A>) site?<p>Mike<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Miyka'el at 11:42 PM 7/21/2005</i>

knicks125
07-22-2005, 05:28 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Miykael</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is anyone able to navigate this (<A HREF="http://cafe.naver.com/newsantafe.cafe" TARGET="_blank">http://cafe.naver.com/newsantafe.cafe</A>) site?<p>Mike</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I know we have a few CSS members who are able to read Korean so perhaps they would be able to help <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

Miyka'el
07-24-2005, 11:55 PM
Old and of a heavily-clad unit, they're good shots nonetheless:<p><A HREF="http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/73953.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/73953.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/73954.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/73954.jpg</A><p>From what I can tell, <I>Autobild.com</I> believes that the vehicle will debut in September at the IAA. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Mike