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RikfromBelgium
01-28-2005, 09:50 AM
Some sketches have been released some time ago from the designdepartment from BMW. But now Autocar claims they could be from the rumoured BMW Supercar. <p> <br> <br> <br> <br> <p><br> <p><br>BMW could be gearing up to launch a new flagship car  the Z9. These official renderings  created by BMWs Californian styling studio  were released at the Los Angeles Auto Show at the beginning of January.<p>Dubbed the California Spyder concept, BMWs Designworks studio says the concept would have a folding carbonfibre roof and be powered by the 700bhp V10 engine that powers the BMW-Williams F1 car.<p>At first glance these sketches might look like a flight of conceptual fancy, but BMW bosses have already admitted that a flagship project is on the drawing board. It would almost certainly be powered by the M5s V10 and could be based on a development of the Z8s aluminium chassis.<p>Its likely that this is the supercar project that a senior BMW figure mentioned at a meeting of financial analysts last July. The official said that BMW was considering building such a car, and that it was closely monitoring the market and moves from rival car makers.<p>When Autocar attempted to clarify the surprise comments, a senior BMW spokesman played down the possibility of an imminent launch. He hinted that the project could be rendered pointless by the arrival of the M6 and M6 CSL.<p>The studio computer renderings pictured here show a big, elegant machine that takes the Z4s flame-surfaced looks and refines them considerably. The sketch that shows the Spyder with doors open reveals the folding hard-top under the boot lid. The smaller rendering shows how the car could look in coup mode with the roof erected<br><IMG SRC="http://www.autocar.co.uk//Car/BMW/Z8/5.0V82drOpen/2715567370.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.autocar.co.uk//Car/BMW/Z8/5.0V82drOpen/2715568430.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.autocar.co.uk//Car/BMW/Z8/5.0V82drOpen/2715561110.jpg" BORDER="0">

Cozz
01-28-2005, 05:21 PM
I wonder if it will have the same fate the Z8 had.

Naga Royal Guard
01-28-2005, 05:40 PM
BMW can NEVER sell a car costing over 100k and whatever who caresjuik

Ascariss
01-28-2005, 05:43 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Naga Royal Guard</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BMW can NEVER sell a car costing over 100k and whatever who caresjuik</TD></TR></TABLE><p>And neither can Lexus. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/all_coholic.gif" BORDER="0">

chaserolls
01-29-2005, 09:25 PM
isn't the 760iL around or over 100k?

T.B.
01-30-2005, 02:49 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>chaserolls</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">isn't the 760iL around or over 100k?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yes. MSRP for 760i is 109.900$, and 117.300$ for 760iL. <br>Z8 models were also sold for MSRP well over 100k $. <br>And M6 will also cost over 100k $.<p>Naga is BS-ing again.

JBlair
01-30-2005, 11:03 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Tine</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes. MSRP for 760i is 109.900$, and 117.300$ for 760iL. <br>Z8 models were also sold for MSRP well over 100k $. <br>And M6 will also cost over 100k $.<p>Naga is BS-ing again.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>As a matter of fact, the M6 will likely cost the SAME as the new M5, which is only about $85,000-$90,000. Naga never said BMW couldn't TRY and sell them, he meant that people wouldn't BUY them. I don't see BMW touting sales figures of the 760 (likely because they aren't good enough to mention), and the Z8 was an unabashed flop.

chaserolls
01-30-2005, 11:31 AM
<IMG SRC="http://www.autocar.co.uk//Car/BMW/Z8/5.0V82drOpen/2715561110.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>anyone else think this looks scarily similar to an M6? <p>I don't foresee BMW going through with this, especially with rumors of a CSL M6, nobody in their right mind would pay X-more amount of dollars for a Z9 when they could get a M6 CSL for considerably less, so what if the Z9 is a droptop, that just means its chasis performs worse on a racetrack<p><br>I think Naga is actually correct for the most part, typically BMW cars costing over 100k have been much, much, much less popular than competing brand's cars around the same price, like the S600 outsells the 760iL by incomparable units, likewise the SL55 versus the Z8, or even the SL500/600 vs Z8<p>all things the same, I'd prefer the z8 over the sl, but that's me, aparently there aren't many people with similar preferences<p><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by chaserolls at 11:37 AM 1/30/2005</i>

JBlair
01-30-2005, 11:36 AM
What ever happened to that small aluminum coupe thing that was running around in a pack of 5er mules a year or so ago?

chaserolls
01-30-2005, 11:38 AM
I remember that, was it rumored to be the next Z4-coupe or the 1er 2-door?

Cozz
01-30-2005, 08:18 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Tine</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Yes. MSRP for 760i is 109.900$, and 117.300$ for 760iL. <br>Z8 models were also sold for MSRP well over 100k $. <br>And M6 will also cost over 100k $.<p>Naga is BS-ing again.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Actually, BMW has a hard time selling $100K cars compared to others like say.. MB who sell $180K cars.

Naga Royal Guard
01-30-2005, 08:57 PM
BMW has been around for a while, supposed to have heritage and tradition, or whatever. <p>i like BMW more than ever, just in a different way :)

Top Secret
01-31-2005, 12:23 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>chaserolls</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't foresee BMW going through with this, especially with rumors of a CSL M6, nobody in their right mind would pay X-more amount of dollars for a Z9 when they could get a M6 CSL for considerably less, so what if the Z9 is a droptop, that just means its chasis performs worse on a racetrack</TD></TR></TABLE><p>You have a valid point, but then again, MB does the same thing with the SL65 AMG and the McLaren SLR. And they both sell very well.<p>I really like this idea, but I would like to see it released when there is enough demand for it - they have to research the market intensively to make sure when to release the car - don't just copy MB and Ferrari and just release it when they release it.

Seller Automotive
01-31-2005, 12:45 PM
I would 100% buy a Z9 for X-more over an M6 CSL... the M6 isnt sexy, its a 6 Series with a Big engine..<p>I prefer my supercars to be unique models. Not just performance versions of something cheaper. (although the 911 Turbo is one of my favorite cars.. ha) Still, I much more prefer unique models.

Roadster44
01-31-2005, 06:53 PM
I think if BMW builds a really emotional and timeless looking design with out of this world performance figures then yeah it'd be a success. It would have to be light, driver oriented, give a lot of feel, have right driving position. I mean there are lot of things on that checklist and I won't bother posting all of them. Nevertheless I'd like to see Z9 kick Carrera GT and SLR's butt.

chaserolls
01-31-2005, 08:05 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Roadster44</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think if BMW builds a really emotional and timeless looking design with out of this world performance figures then yeah it'd be a success. It would have to be light, driver oriented, give a lot of feel, have right driving position. I mean there are lot of things on that checklist and I won't bother posting all of them. Nevertheless I'd like to see Z9 kick Carrera GT and SLR's butt.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I agree that if BMW came out with a car with all of the above mentioned qualities and made it remotely affordable then yes, it would be very successful, but I really don't see them making a SLR-esque car that outperforms the Carrera GT and still selling it for less than $350,000<p>I dont know how they could manage to make it outperform the Carrera GT though because that car already has the best brakes in its class and one of the best engines. I think the only car today that compares with the Carrera GT is the Enzo, and if porsche made a more race-derived version of the Carrera GT, I think it'd run with the number for number with the Enzo, but then again this about BMW's new supposed supercar<p><br>Besides, this newest drawing gives the car a front engine layout, with a droptop, which will be heavy, I expect this car, if they do deside to go ahead with it, to be like a SL65

T.B.
01-31-2005, 10:20 PM
Another picture ... full frontal ... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><IMG SRC="http://www.cardesignnews.com/autoshows/2005/losangeles/designla/images/bmw1.jpg" BORDER="0">

Naga Royal Guard
02-01-2005, 05:25 AM
uh oh

chaserolls
02-01-2005, 02:53 PM
in lite of the front-end drawing . . . i might have to retract my previous statements, even though i still highly doubt they'll build it

JBlair
02-01-2005, 03:33 PM
One of the other members commented that this was drawn by a design student, and is not necessarily a production ready design.

Roadster44
02-01-2005, 03:36 PM
They can't afford to do another SL fighter. 6 series does that already. M6 Convertible could easily compete with SL55-65.

Seller Automotive
02-01-2005, 04:01 PM
They could get away with it if they made it lightweight, and very limited.<p>A V12 version of the M5's engine wouldnt hurt either; 6 liters, 600hp.

retrofuturism
02-05-2005, 04:52 AM
tht was one of the transportation design student's work..