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Naga Royal Guard
02-28-2005, 04:39 PM
I have discussed this before w/ ppl, and ive gotten a few ideas, but i wanna know what you guyz think.

Cozz
02-28-2005, 07:22 PM
I don't see an issue with it. sh** happens.

Hornbag
03-01-2005, 12:11 AM
Im a bastard, so i think that answers da question. Its to commen place these days to say it is wrong.<p>What Coss said, sh** happens!

geary
03-01-2005, 12:27 AM
I suppose it depends on the long-term plans of the parents. I would say no if no father figure could mentor the children - but I suppose if there were agrangments and it was long term - I have no problem.

LoneWolf
03-01-2005, 01:42 AM
Personally, I think a better way to put it might be, no child should be CREATED outside of wedlock. ;-)

Top Secret
03-01-2005, 02:03 AM
I dunno. It's really a tricky situation this; if two people are in a de facto relationship and are most probably not going to break up, then yes, it is acceptable. But if it's just going to be a short-term relationship; I say no.

r3vilo
03-01-2005, 02:19 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Top Secret</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I dunno. It's really a tricky situation this; if two people are in a de facto relationship and are most probably not going to break up, then yes, it is acceptable. But if it's just going to be a short-term relationship; I say no.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>True. The child should not be placed into any pressure. Its unfair if the child's parents are divorcing/breaking up

Cozz
03-01-2005, 05:32 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>revilo_</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>True. The child should not be placed into any pressure. Its unfair if the child's parents are divorcing/breaking up</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It's more unfair for a child to see a bad marriage in front of him/her. The fact that two people need to be together because of a child is senseless. A child can be brought up perfecty with two loving parents and not need wedlock. I know this very well.

r3vilo
03-01-2005, 06:08 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Cozz</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's more unfair for a child to see a bad marriage in front of him/her. The fact that two people need to be together because of a child is senseless. A child can be brought up perfecty with two loving parents and not need wedlock. I know this very well.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Thats wot i meant, i just didnt put it very well.....i also think that forcing a child to say who they want to live with is wrong

Santeno
03-01-2005, 08:19 AM
Of course it's right. The parent's lack of protection is not the fault of the child. Is it right, yes. Inconvenient for the child? most likely? I have to ask you naga, what is the difference between this scenario and one in which parents divorce at an early age? or how about a scenario in which both parents are there but they are abusive toward their children?

Naga Royal Guard
03-01-2005, 08:39 AM
should have been worded differently i admit

CalinG7
03-01-2005, 12:26 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hornbag_1</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Its to commen place these days to say it is wrong.<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Prevalence, acceptability, majority opinion, or numbers never determine what's right or wrong. It goes far beyond that. <p>There are many examps, but it was very common for Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, and communists to be shipped off to concentration camps for extermination in 1940s Europe. Don't mean to pick on you but I hope you don't think that made it right because it was common. <p>As to the thread, no, I don't believe children should be conceived or born out of wedlock, but yes, it happens very often. Doesn't mean there's anything wrong with those children born outside of marriage, or that children born to married couples don't suffer abuse or maltreatment. But overall, if everything was perfect, I think the security and commitment of a married couple would be the ideal environment to raise a child in.

Tidal
03-01-2005, 01:34 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Cozz</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>It's more unfair for a child to see a bad marriage in front of him/her. The fact that two people need to be together because of a child is senseless. A child can be brought up perfecty with two loving parents and not need wedlock. I know this very well.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Very well said. Even a single parent is better than two parents who keep arguing, and who end up resenting the kid. Kids know much more about whats going on around them than adults give them credit for.

Naga Royal Guard
03-01-2005, 10:09 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Santeno</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Of course it's right. The parent's lack of protection is not the fault of the child. Is it right, yes. Inconvenient for the child? most likely? I have to ask you naga, what is the difference between this scenario and one in which parents divorce at an early age? or how about a scenario in which both parents are there but they are abusive toward their children?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>if i knew i wouldnt have started this poll <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

LEXUS FAN!
03-04-2005, 01:03 PM
i am personally for waiting until marriage, but if a child is born out of wedlock that does not make them any less of a person, and parents should love them just as much

Andre
03-04-2005, 06:12 PM
One of my Nieces doesn't even know who her father is, her mother made a bad choice in college at 19 years old. Today She's a great gal, she herself is 19 and for the most part in charge of her life. Last time she was in town we were discussing the fact that she needed a new car, I was giving her tips. <p>For that I know it's possible to have a child out of wedlock, and raise it well. The first six years of her life she was without any sort of father figure as her mother tried to figure out what to do with her life. In some ways I think that has made her a better person, more focused on what she wants to do.<p>I personally think that a child should be raised in a stable environment, preferrably with both parents if possible. Obviously if one is dead or a homicidal maniac that won't be possible, but in that case IMO they still need a parent. That's what it really boils down to, is having two lead figures with contrasting (note, not opposing) viewpoints with which to bounce off of. It provides the best learning environment, and shows the child how best to interact with those around them. They need stable parents, not necessarily a married couple, though that is the easiest at times.

mzoltarp
03-11-2005, 06:55 AM
The issue is not whether kids are born in or out of wedlock but whether the "procreational facilitators" will be good parents, provide support, educate their children, and make them productive members of society.