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Santeno
01-10-2005, 11:08 AM
According to <A HREF="http://thinksecret.com/news/0501expo4.html" TARGET="_blank">thinksecret.com</A>, Apple will release tomorrow at the Macworld convention a new smaller version of the I-pod. This one will be even smaller than the I-pod Mini. The reason being that it doesn't use a hard drive, but rather 2Gigs of flash memory (memory cards suplied by samsung). <p>The rummor goes that they are also going to start selling sub $500 Mac Desktops for all of you who have always wanted a mac but couldn't warrant spending the money (when a nice dell was available).<p>On other news, Toshiba announced that they have increased the size of compact flash cards to an amazing 2 and 4 gigabytes of storage space.<p>All of a sudden my I-pod is looking like a dinosaur.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by MOORHOUSE at 7:17 PM 1/11/2005</i>

syclone
01-10-2005, 11:34 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Santeno</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>On other news, Toshiba announced that they have increased the size of compact flash cards to an amazing 2 and 4 gigabytes of storage space.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Weak. SanDisk has been at 16GB since November. They also just announced an SD card that flips open and has a USB connector inside of it, so its a memory card and thumb drive in one.

knicks125
01-10-2005, 11:43 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Santeno</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">All of a sudden my I-pod is looking like a dinosaur.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I guess it was a good thing I waited, as one of the few that still don't own an ipod <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Santeno
01-10-2005, 01:26 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>syclone</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Weak. SanDisk has been at 16GB since November. They also just announced an SD card that flips open and has a USB connector inside of it, so its a memory card and thumb drive in one.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Not weak, I didn't know, but thanks for the info. Learn something new every day. I did a little research based on your info and if I'm reading things right, the max available of CF cards that you can plug into a device is currently 8gigs. The 16 GB cards are PC cards, and according to the site I looked at are available for proffesional applications. Since the price of the 4GB card is about $500, I imagine it will be a while before we start seeing many products being offered with large scale solid state memory at a reasonable price.<p>I guess my I-pod might be good for another year or two.

Hornbag
01-11-2005, 12:10 AM
OH, im happy now. Afta selling my iPod photo i might look into getting this one if it looks the biz. Thanks Santeno

Gian86
01-11-2005, 02:15 AM
Maybe tomorrow at Macworld convention, i'm really sure that Apple will also launch this hardware called I-Home, it will be apple's version of windows media centre and it will worked on with I-Mac G5 computer.<br>Here's pics and video to see on this link below:<br><A HREF="http://dms.tecknohost.com/macrumors/i/ihome" TARGET="_blank">http://dms.tecknohost.com/macrumors/i/ihome</A>/<p>I hope that some new I-Pods will be on colour when it will be announced tomorrow. I can't wait!!!!!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0">

JBlair
01-11-2005, 08:18 AM
The new mini will be unveilved sometime this week, as well as the flashPod and, perhaps, a Windows conquest desktop.

bm88
01-11-2005, 11:13 AM
<B><U><FONT SIZE="6">iPod Shuffle!</FONT></b></u><p><A HREF="http://www.ipod-shuffle.com/" TARGET="_blank">http://www.ipod-shuffle.com/</A><p>I know it isnt up yet, but its rumoured not to have a screen, thus the slogan "Life is random." which sounds interesting.<p>The Apple webshop is also closed atm, and says it should be back in an hour!<p>I might have to sell my 4G iPod if this thing is any good!

Santeno
01-11-2005, 11:44 AM
No screen? shuffle only mode? It sounds an awful lot like....... A RADIO!<p>BTW, your G4 has a shuffle mode. Unless this vershion has tons of memory; is really small (so you can use it for sports); and most of all, is cheap (not usually an apple strong point); I fail to see the point.

bm88
01-11-2005, 11:46 AM
lol.<p>I know about shuffle mode!<p>Just that the normal iPod is huge, when you only fill 1/4 of its memory.

bm88
01-11-2005, 12:15 PM
<A HREF="http://www.apple.com/ipodshuffle/gallery/" TARGET="_blank">http://www.apple.com/ipodshuffle/gallery/</A>

Santeno
01-11-2005, 12:32 PM
Thanks Moorhouse. Here's a bit more info:<p><IMG SRC="http://images.apple.com/ipodshuffle/images/indexwithgum20050111.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>512 MB: $99.00<br>1 GB: $149.00<br>No word yet on the price of the 2 GB model, but it is expected to be close to but under $200.<p><IMG SRC="http://a248.e.akamai.net/7/248/2041/689/store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Images/beautyshot_ipodshuffle_050111.jpg" BORDER="0">

knicks125
01-11-2005, 12:47 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Santeno</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No word yet on the price of the 2 GB model, but it is expected to be close to but under $200.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>199?

Santeno
01-11-2005, 01:34 PM
Here is the closest thing in size and execution, that I found currently available from the competition. I'm sure there are others, but I'm just not familiar with Flash Players:<p><U>JetAudio iAudio U2</U> <p><IMG SRC="http://onlinestore.jetaudio.com/ProductImages/pic_u2_black.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>1GB: $249.00<br>512 MB: $199.00<br>256 MB: $149.00<p>Specs: <A HREF="http://onlinestore.jetaudio.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWCATS&Category=40" TARGET="_blank">http://onlinestore.jetaudio.co...ry=40</A><p><U>iRiver N10</U> <p><IMG SRC="http://www.iriveramerica.com/images/prod/ultra/n10/N10-105/N10-105-angle.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>512MB: $249.00<br>256MB: $179.99<br>128MB: $149.99<p>Specs: <A HREF="http://www.iriveramerica.com/prod/ultra/n10/n10-105.aspx" TARGET="_blank">http://www.iriveramerica.com/p....aspx</A><p><U>iRiver iFP series:</U><p><IMG SRC="http://images.bestbuy.com/BestBuy_US/images/products/6387/6387714_ra.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>512MB: $199.00<br>256MB: $149.99<p>Specs: <A HREF="http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=cat12085&type=page&sc=ALL&qs=iriver+ifp&cp=1&sp=Relevance&mipp=25&uq=iriver+ifp&_requestid=51833" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bestbuy.com/site/ol...51833</A><p><br><U>MPIO Blast</U><p><IMG SRC="http://images.bestbuy.com/BestBuy_US/images/products/6830/6830619_ra.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>1GB: $249.00<br>128 MB: $119.00<p>Specs: <A HREF="http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=1091101682092&skuId=6830619&type=product&cmp" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bestbuy.com/site/ol...t&cmp</A>=++<p><U>Sandisk SDMX</U><p><IMG SRC="http://images.bestbuy.com/BestBuy_US/images/products/6800/6800875_ra.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>1GB: $199.00<br>512MB: $179.00<br>256MB: $129.00<p><U>Samsung yepp' </U><p><IMG SRC="http://images.bestbuy.com/BestBuy_US/images/products/6425/6425665_ra.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>256MB: $149.00<p><U>Philips Key</U><p><IMG SRC="http://images.bestbuy.com/BestBuy_US/images/products/6673/6673575_ra.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>256 MB: $149.00<p><U>MPIO Saphire</U><p><IMG SRC="http://images.bestbuy.com/BestBuy_US/images/products/6793/6793678_ra.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>256 MB:$129.00<br>128 MB: $89.00<p>They all have more features than the I-pod (in varying amounts), have screens, and are similar in size. However, they all offer less memory for the price (most prices came from Bestbuy or the manufacturer).<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Santeno at 4:00 PM 1/11/2005</i>

JBlair
01-11-2005, 01:36 PM
I have a feeling the iPod and Apple name are going to be enough to get people to buy this quirky player. I am not so sure about the whole no screen completely random thing, but knowning Apple, they'll come out with an accessory that has a screen in it soon.

zwei Biere bitte
01-11-2005, 02:28 PM
I guess I'm the only one here who doesn't like the Shuffle...<p>Why? Because it looks basicly nothing like a regular iPod, and just the fact that it is so cheap and doesn't have that much memory worries me. Apple already has like 87% of the harddrive MP3 player market, so why do they need this? It's like BMW making a car to compete with the smart fortwo at the exact same price. Not to mention, there use to be one version of the iPod: the iPod. Now there are 4 versions (5 if you include the U2 special edition), so I think it may become confusing for consumers. <p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0">

Krypton
01-11-2005, 02:29 PM
<IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/moon_1_D.gif" BORDER="0"> i bought the sandisk one for 100 3 months ago and now they decide to come out with a smaller ipod

Santeno
01-11-2005, 02:54 PM
At this point in time, IMO, the only thing thet the Ipod has going for it is that compared to the others it is relatively cheap for the amount of memory it offers. Something tells me that over the next couple of months however, the competition m,ight start upping their memory and dropping their prices more in-line with Apple's. If that happens, Apple's advantage would be gone, because everyone else trumps the I-pod in every other feature (especially the iriver N10 and the Phillips Key)

anonms
01-11-2005, 08:35 PM
If you can't operate an MP3 player without a screen, then YOU SUCK. As long as you memorize the interface and are able to identify what songs are on your MP3 player by listening to the first few seconds of them, you'll do just fine if you were to have a shuffle. I can safely say this because I've successfully operated 3 MP3 players without looking at the screen (Creative MuVo NX, iPod, and BenQ Joybee 130) mainly because I'm to lazy to take it out of my pocket. <p>If the shuffle were to look like an iPod, it'd probably end up bulkier than its competitors. Also, flash memory costs more than hard drives, thus a 150:1 dollar-to-GB ratio is more justifiable, especially when other flash-based MP3 players at the same price offer a 600:1 dollar-to-GB ratio.<p>And honestly, can everyone dish out $300 for an iPod? Or $250 for a mini?

Top Secret
01-11-2005, 08:41 PM
I think this is really cool, I lot of people want an iPod but most people think it is too expensive and it's storage space is too large - therefore the Shuffle would be a good alternative.<p>Anyway, check this out: <B>Mac Mini</B> <p><A HREF="http://www.apple.com/macmini" TARGET="_blank">http://www.apple.com/macmini</A>/

JBlair
01-11-2005, 09:59 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>zwei Biere bitte</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I guess I'm the only one here who doesn't like the Shuffle...<p>Why? Because it looks basicly nothing like a regular iPod, and just the fact that it is so cheap and doesn't have that much memory worries me. Apple already has like 87% of the harddrive MP3 player market, so why do they need this? It's like BMW making a car to compete with the smart fortwo at the exact same price. Not to mention, there use to be one version of the iPod: the iPod. Now there are 4 versions (5 if you include the U2 special edition), so I think it may become confusing for consumers. <p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>The reason why they're going into this market is because it is much larger than the Hard drive player market, and would give apple a chance to really reach out to more customers. At this launch an analyst predicted that Apple could sell 6.5 MILLION of these next year, and over 13 million the year after. Apple sees a market that it could very well conquest, and it is making a move to do just that.

geary
01-11-2005, 10:06 PM
I'm well and truly happy with my mini thankyou very much.

JBlair
01-11-2005, 10:30 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>geary</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm well and truly happy with my mini thankyou very much.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Same here, except its with the 3G regular 'Pod. Can't wait to replace it in a few years (unless mine lasts for a really long time) with the 5G version. This is all well and good, and there is a market for it, but I prefer the hard drive players.

Hornbag
01-11-2005, 11:27 PM
OHHHH, i love this. Mum just saw it and is ready to order one!!! I cant wait untill its release date. Also that mac mini topsecret is amazing, mum and i want one of them 2!!!!!!<p>But i do prefer my mini, just looks more like an iPod. It does make sence tho...... and it looks so kool!!!!!

Gian86
01-12-2005, 02:14 AM
Wowww, that looks good, i've just saw Steve Jobs anounced the new smaller i-pod and people where very happy what this machine doing. <br>Take a look what CNet saying about I-Pod Shuffle.<br><A HREF="http://reviews.cnet.com/Apple_iPod_Shuffle__512MB_/4505-6490_7-31256885-2.html?tag=tab" TARGET="_blank">http://reviews.cnet.com/Apple_...g=tab</A><p>For Australian people out there who wants I-Pod Shuffle. It will cost $149 FOR 512MB!!!!!!! That's cheap!!!!!!!!<br>And 1GB cost $229.00 <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

geary
01-12-2005, 02:21 AM
Hey, didn't I recall you getting a 60G iPod photo, to go with your mini - <I>and</I> your Kath & Kim DVDs?<p>You my friend, is spoilt silly, and deserve to be because you live in Queensland. LoL - just joking mate.<br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0">

NOM15
01-12-2005, 05:56 AM
To be honest I don't really like this..... I wouldn't even call this an iPod, however I do think it'll sell (people just seem obsessed with Apple these days). If I had to buy a smaller mp3-player I'd probably wouldn't choose this...simply because IMO there are loads of more attractive and probably better players (sound quality-wise etc.) on the market.

Naga Royal Guard
01-12-2005, 01:39 PM
what garbage<p><br>not much else to say really

Krypton
01-12-2005, 01:43 PM
my sandisk 512 was $100 a few months ago and also comes with a FM radio and most of its compititions prices are similar. Only extraordinary thing about the IPOd is probably the looks

Rugbyplaya91
01-12-2005, 03:59 PM
I'm happy with my old non click wheel ipod thankyou very much:p<p>edit: I think this is garbage!! They should just make the ipod mini cheaper and hike the price up on the ipod photocolor thangya! NO screen... hmm, you'd have to goo and goo just to find the song you watned!!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsad.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsad.gif" BORDER="0">

anonms
01-12-2005, 08:54 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Rugbyplaya91</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">NO screen... hmm, you'd have to goo and goo just to find the song you watned!!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsad.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsad.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Have you even TRIED operating an MP3 player without a screen? Have you ever even USED a flash-based MP3 player? Screen or no screen, you have to scroll from song to song. You can't exit to a list of all the song names like in jukeboxes. Therefore, the only thing a screen would be good for is to tell you the name of the song and how much time has elapsed. You should know what songs you have on your MP3 player, and can you honestly say that you actually care about how much time has elapsed?

Naga Royal Guard
01-12-2005, 09:51 PM
i care

Santeno
01-13-2005, 11:08 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>chibi ichigo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Have you even TRIED operating an MP3 player without a screen? Have you ever even USED a flash-based MP3 player? Screen or no screen, you have to scroll from song to song. You can't exit to a list of all the song names like in jukeboxes. Therefore, the only thing a screen would be good for is to tell you the name of the song and how much time has elapsed. You should know what songs you have on your MP3 player, and can you honestly say that you actually care about how much time has elapsed?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Are you saying that every single flash based MP3 player only allows you to view the song list and jump from one to the next? I have a funny feeling that that statement might be a bit too generalized. I don't expect playlists like on jukeboxes, but at the very list artist and album groupings. I'm with the guys who don't like that fact that a screen is missing. if shuffle is the only option, I would rather pay the additional 50-100 bucks and get what I really want.

anonms
01-13-2005, 07:41 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Santeno</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Are you saying that every single flash based MP3 player only allows you to view the song list and jump from one to the next? I have a funny feeling that that statement might be a bit too generalized. I don't expect playlists like on jukeboxes, but at the very list artist and album groupings. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Not every single player, but in general, flash-based MP3 players force users to scroll song-by-song. Only Rios currently let you go through an iPod-esque menu sequence, and the coming-soon 1GB Zen Micro will (obviously) let you scroll through lists.<p>Also, all the flash-based MP3 players I've used or tried out all put the folders in alphabetical order, as well as the songs in the folders.

Naga Royal Guard
01-13-2005, 08:35 PM
you sure know alot about this stuff, do you collect MP3 players?<br>

anonms
01-13-2005, 10:34 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Naga Royal Guard</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you sure know alot about this stuff, do you collect MP3 players?<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>No, but my dad and I were in the market for a flash-based MP3 player very recently.