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blackviper8891
01-04-2005, 08:12 PM
Yesterday, I looked around at stereo equipment for my 95 Grand Am. While looking... I found myself to be unsure of exactly what I should get. So, I am here to ask for suggestions. Like... what types should I get? ..just one type? ...or a combo? ...what brands? ..and stuff like that. Anyways, if you can help me, please do and just for a reminder... the stores are limited here and I'm basically confined to a Wal-Mart.

Naga Royal Guard
01-04-2005, 08:19 PM
if your confined to walmart, try ebay after you know what you want; walmart doesent have much of anything last time i heard

AXLE
01-04-2005, 08:56 PM
In the USA go to Best Buy. My dad got me a 800 watt 2 channel Kenwood amp at Best Buy when he was over there recently for US $230. Over here in AU it is powering 2 x 800 watt (250 RMS) Sony Explod subs with 230 watts RMS per Sub bridged! Man those thing pump! As for the rest of my stuff I have a 50x4 Blaupunkt Deck that my dad picked up in Costco for Us $110. I also have Blaupunkt speakers that I bought here.<p>Take a look at my system at <p><A HREF="http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/488697/3" TARGET="_blank">http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/488697/3</A><p>Maybe it might give you some ideas.

Naga Royal Guard
01-04-2005, 09:03 PM
most impressive<p> <IMG SRC="http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/8/web/488000-488999/488697_80.jpg" BORDER="0">

blackviper8891
01-04-2005, 09:23 PM
Looks good, Axle.<p>When I looked around at Wal-Mart... one sub-woofer caught my eye.. it was a Sony Explod 12" sub with 1100watts for less than $100. I can't seem to find them on Walmart's site. ...? I am really considering getting one. They also had a Sony Explod amp.. i forget the wattage though.. it was for about $150 or $200. My car already has an aftermarket CD player in it and the car is already wired up for a system. The rear speakers are aftermarket too... but the driver side one isn't working.. it looks like a wire is just disconnected. I hope that is all it is as I am already spending alot of money and can't afford to spend too much more. If I ever go back to Erie, Ill be sure to check out circuit city and best buy, but I dont know how soon I'll be going agian.

Naga Royal Guard
01-04-2005, 09:33 PM
<A HREF="http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=cat03081&type=category" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bestbuy.com/site/ol...egory</A><p>they probably dont sell that kinda stuff at walmart, at least not on their website ( some retail websites are like that)

Nick
01-04-2005, 11:34 PM
well...being that i just had my system installed recently, I have done a lot of research on whats good and what isnt...I have a standard cab pickup, behind the seats are 2 JL audio 10" W3v2's (the biggest I could go without having to "tub" the rear and make cutouts)...JL produces some of the best subs on the market, they sound very good, and man do they bump...let's just say I no longer need hydraulics in my truck anymore <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> ...Also, even if you dont want JL subs, go with their "slash" series amps...JL's slash series are deffinately one of the best if not the best amps on the market...the subs are being powered by a 500x1 and the speakers are being powered by a 300x4...the speakers are also JL audio...they are decent sounding and I figured i would match the components...I got 4 mids and 4 tweeters, (with crossovers...duh)...two mids and tweeters were custom installed to replace the cheapo 4x6's, and the head unit is an eclipse CD8454...again...if you want the top of the line, best headunits out there...go with eclipse...they make some of the best headunits...altogether the system ran me about 3 grand or so...but believe me...it's well worth it...

AXLE
01-05-2005, 12:05 AM
That sub sounds good but be carefull about the amp, it can not too powerful or else you can blow your sub. Mine is perfect for what I have! keep looking, sometimes there are huge sales at best buy and circuit city. You can ask about a discount if buy in cash and most of the time they will give you one <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> And another thing, try to go with the brand names, they may be slightly more expensive but you will not regret it in the long term.

Nick
01-05-2005, 12:32 AM
yea, like Axle said, be very sure your amp suits the power needs of your sub...I find it hilarious when people have subs each connected to their own 1000 watt amps, yet the subs need less than half that power if not a quarter of it...you can blow speakers with too much power, and you can also blow them with too little power...so be careful about what amps you choose...

Pro Driver
01-05-2005, 07:27 PM
Another note about Amps and Speakers. You do want to have a more powerful amp then what the speakers can handle to some degree. That way you can turn the power out put of the amp down so it is not working at 100% or more all the time. If you don't then you will burn out your amp and speakers. You also want the amp to be powerful enough to handle power spikes if you make a system with a lot of bass.<p>More Amps or Higher wattage Amps does not necessarily mean it will be much louder, the sound will be cleaner and clearer.<p>As far as mixing brands or speakers and amps. That is perfectly fine to do. The only way that you should buy speakers is to hear them be used at the store. If you have a CD that you listen to a lot or know one song better then any others, bring that CD with you and have them play it. Then you will be able to pick up the sound differences with the different speakers and be able to pick which speakers will work the best for you. <p>Remember- The Most Expensive stuff is not always the best!

Nick
01-06-2005, 01:36 AM
yea, but usually in the audio industry you really do pay for quality...for the most part anyways...the subs you get should come with paperwork that will show you what the optimum output the subs need...so choosing the correct amp(s) with the wattage you would need shouldnt be a problem...

Naga Royal Guard
01-06-2005, 09:12 PM
listen to the paper, and run on a bit of instinct - you cant go wrong

blackviper8891
01-08-2005, 10:29 PM
Ok... I have ordered a catalog from Crutchfield, but I don't think I will buy anything from it for now. I returned to Wal-Mart and looked some more. Here are my plans.... Buy two Sony Explod 12" subs with 1100 peak watts for about $70 each and a Sony Explod amp with 500 watts and 4/3 channel for about $100. Then I will build my own box for the subs or super-kindly ask my parents to help pay for separate boxes for each sub at about $30 each. This is all in my budget (except for the boxes) which obviously wasn't very high to begin with. Naga said go with instinct (and paper too... ) and my instinct is telling me to go to WalMart and buy those subs and amp. If... you guys think that the subs and amps will not work together well.. tell me... please. There were smaller subs there if there is any doubt. Thanks for the suggestions and tips.

syclone
01-08-2005, 11:06 PM
My only advice: Pay for someone to install it. I did my own in two of my old cars. I got everything working fine in the end, but it was a major pain in the ass.

Top Secret
01-08-2005, 11:23 PM
If you don't have any experience of installing a sound system, yes, I'd advise to get a pro to do it, but really, having a go on your own is good excerise and you will know a lot more by the end.

AXLE
01-08-2005, 11:49 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>blackviper8891</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok... I have ordered a catalog from Crutchfield, but I don't think I will buy anything from it for now. I returned to Wal-Mart and looked some more. Here are my plans.... Buy two Sony Explod 12" subs with 1100 peak watts for about $70 each and a Sony Explod amp with 500 watts and 4/3 channel for about $100. Then I will build my own box for the subs or super-kindly ask my parents to help pay for separate boxes for each sub at about $30 each. This is all in my budget (except for the boxes) which obviously wasn't very high to begin with. Naga said go with instinct (and paper too... ) and my instinct is telling me to go to WalMart and buy those subs and amp. If... you guys think that the subs and amps will not work together well.. tell me... please. There were smaller subs there if there is any doubt. Thanks for the suggestions and tips.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Find out how many RMS per channel the amp puts out, at this point if you really want that Amp I would recommend only one 12 inch sub or maybe 2 smaller 10 inch ones, perhaps maybe one 10 inch sub because that amp sounds like its fairly small. RMS ratings are all that count, not maximum Watts.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>syclone</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My only advice: Pay for someone to install it. I did my own in two of my old cars. I got everything working fine in the end, but it was a major pain in the ass.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>In my opinion car audio installation is one of the easiest things you can do to your car. I started on my system with no knowledge what so ever and did everything my self and it turned out fine. Car alarms on the otherhand are difficult, I bought a VDO car alarm in my car and have not been able to get the microphone sensor to work still, I think it maybe broken <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/crying.gif" BORDER="0">

blackviper8891
01-09-2005, 01:26 AM
RMS... first.. What's that? lol <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0"> If I must, I can opp for just one or going with 10's. There were some 10" subs there with 700 or 800 peak watts. Going with just one 12" or 10" would save me money too.. hmm. <p>Also, the previous owner had a system in the car, so it is already wired up basically.

Naga Royal Guard
01-09-2005, 06:00 AM
RMS is an AC voltage measuring specification, it will specify where applicable ( i think? )

AXLE
01-09-2005, 11:06 PM
Yeah that sounds like a better Idea then getting two 12 inchers. RMS is the amount of Watts that actually counts. <p>Here is a link that may explain some useful stuff to you better than I can.<p><A HREF="http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=cat12076&type=page&faqID=1043363103052&h=387" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bestbuy.com/site/ol...h=387</A><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bow.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>

blackviper8891
01-10-2005, 05:06 PM
Thanks Axle.

ricerammer
01-12-2005, 06:51 PM
Sony Xplors sound like crap. I'd go Rockford Fosgate. Try JL Audio as well. Their subs sound great.

Nick
01-12-2005, 08:52 PM
i would recommend RF either...they really arent much to talk about either...you can't go wrong with JL though <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

ricerammer
01-12-2005, 09:11 PM
meh. JL is sweet. RF is alright. We have them in our vehicles.

Top Secret
01-12-2005, 11:23 PM
Clarion has some decent sounding subwoofers as well. And of course, the granddaddy, the Solobaric woofers from Kicker are absolutely fab, but a tad on the rich side.

KaRaceR
01-13-2005, 12:05 PM
im a boy racer over here in the uk on my first car only been drivin for about 5 months, iv got a ford ka, with a fusion install, it has a 400W amp and 12" sub and that is plenty lound, even with out the bass boost from my head unit it rocks, im saving up for more speekers because the bass drowns out the track im listening too,<br>if u have a hatch back just go for one 12" sub dont be a fool and jsut go for the biggest because all u will get out is a rattling sound from the displaced air,<br>so dont waste money on too much bass(yeas there is such a thang)<br>if u have a larger car with more of a boot then 2 10" subs would be cool.<p>i dont know if in america u have a shop called halfords they do eveything from car tuner parts to moutain bikes and tools,<p>my 12" fusion encouter sub in a speaker box and 400W amp with a wiring kit all together worth 500 which i think os bout $800 cost me 199 in a package halfords were doing bout $300<br>