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Ascariss
12-16-2004, 10:02 PM
previous thread:<br><A HREF="http://carspyshots.proboards2.com/index.cgi?board=spy&action=display&num=1095450700" TARGET="_blank">http://carspyshots.proboards2....50700</A><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>LXLover</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>I assume this to be a mule/prototype for the next Sebring/Stratus.<p><IMG SRC="http://www.kettering.edu/~mcca6392/seb_1.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Most of the body seems to be similar to the current models, but it seems a bit larger than the current-gen Stratus next to it. Whether or not they intend to keep the passenger compartment fairly similar, will show over time.<p><IMG SRC="http://www.kettering.edu/~mcca6392/seb_2.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Also note the rather high hoodline, and the big headlights. That leads me to suspect Stratus, as it almost hints towards Magnum styling cues.<p>I do know that they've been building prototype powertrain for some time now. I saw shipments of multiple pallets of assembled engine/transmission units about 5-6 months ago being shipped. Damn if I can't remember what exact specs, though.<p>LX Lover<br></TD></TR></TABLE><br>

bolita
01-03-2005, 01:33 PM
This is based on the next MMC Galant, right?

Charger
01-03-2005, 01:43 PM
On other forums Ive been hearing that this might not even be a Stratus/Sebring mule but instead it might be a "sister" to the Charger.

sexy
01-04-2005, 03:49 AM
Ain't this suppose to be the next Neon? Because this has the Neons front lights. It's coming out in 2006

Santeno
01-04-2005, 12:26 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>sexy</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ain't this suppose to be the next Neon? Because this has the Neons front lights. It's coming out in 2006</TD></TR></TABLE><br>No, you are looking at a drive train mule with a Neon shell partially covering it. All the rumors say that the next neon will not be a traditional sedan.

Charger
07-20-2005, 05:17 PM
<A HREF="http://info.detnews.com/dn/pix/2005/07/20/drive/dr20-sneakpeek-0705n_07-20-2005_LU7CRB9.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://info.detnews.com/dn/pix...9.jpg</A><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Chrysler Sebring to get new look, platform for 2007<p><br> Chrysler is redesigning its midsize Sebring and Stratus sedans in spring 2006, using the next-generation Mitsubishi Lancers platform as a mechanical base. The same components set will underpin the new Dodge Caliber, Jeep Patriot and Jeep Compass.<p> <b><u>The 2007 Sebring sedan</b></u> gets a more modern look than the current car, and will have different sheet metal from the 2007 Stratus. It will likely continue to offer customers a choice of four- and six-cylinder engines.<p> DaimlerChrysler AG's Chrysler Group is investing $500 million to upgrade its Sterling Heights plant, where the Sebring and Stratus will continue to be assembled. Chrysler says it is designing in enough flexibility to assemble several different classes of cars at the Sterling Heights plant. </TD></TR></TABLE><br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Santeno at 11:36 AM 7/26/2005</i>

SV
07-20-2005, 05:19 PM
the next lancer platform better be good, since the next-generation midsize sedans are the most important upcoming models from chrysler i think, bar the new minivans.

Dodger
07-20-2005, 05:39 PM
I can't believe we are still seeing mules with the Stratus body shell. When will we start to see some of the actual prototypes?<p>Are they still keeping the Stratus/Sebring names? I thought there was talk quite a while ago about them getting new designations. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

Andre
07-20-2005, 09:17 PM
Rumor has it we've already seen an actual prototype, not a shell <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> You just don't know it

knicks125
07-21-2005, 05:16 AM
All I can say is that Sebring/Stratus replacements are long overdue. These are two of the midsize sedans have been long forgotten by many. Hurry!!

nismo
07-21-2005, 09:15 AM
If they make the Sebring look anything like the 300 its going to sell like crazy...<p>They really need to upgrade the V6 this time around, maybe use the 3.5l V6 with 250hp. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> The car needs a V6 with atleast 220hp.

DoMiNo
07-21-2005, 12:18 PM
I can't believe I'm actually looking forward to this car. But like nismo said, if this thing has half the style of the 300, it's gonna be great.

Chris_Doane
07-26-2005, 08:17 AM
Here's the real thing:<p><A HREF="http://box.motorline.cc/slideshow/show.asp?gallery=AUTOWELT%20|%20ERWISCHT%20|%20Jul i%2005&p=7&w=435&rn=26%2E07%2E2005+17%3A08%3A42" TARGET="_blank">http://box.motorline.cc/slides...%3A42</A><p><A HREF="http://box.motorline.cc/slideshow/show.asp?gallery=AUTOWELT%20|%20ERWISCHT%20|%20Jul i%2005&p=8&w=435&rn=26%2E07%2E2005+17%3A08%3A45" TARGET="_blank">http://box.motorline.cc/slides...%3A45</A>

bolita
07-26-2005, 08:23 AM
Doesn't seem as retro as the 300 from those pix but it does seem like it will be very nice!

DoMiNo
07-26-2005, 08:26 AM
Kind of has the DLO of a G35/Skyline sedan. Looks classy, so far, though larger wheels pushed a little further out to shorten the overhangs would help. Any news on when this should release?

DoMiNo
07-26-2005, 08:39 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Supremus</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Avenger? Airflite?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Note the grille, round foglights, short rear deck, and on the front view, you can see a deep scoop down the side. I think the Airflite is a good bet.<p>Airflite Concept<br><A HREF="http://www.automag.be/IMG/chrysler_airflite_cv2003-034_low.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.automag.be/IMG/chry...w.jpg</A>

Santeno
07-26-2005, 09:02 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Explorer_97</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here's the real thing:<p><A HREF="http://box.motorline.cc/slideshow/show.asp?gallery=AUTOWELT%20|%20ERWISCHT%20|%20Jul i%2005&p=7&w=435&rn=26%2E07%2E2005+17%3A08%3A42" TARGET="_blank">http://box.motorline.cc/slides...%3A42</A><p><A HREF="http://box.motorline.cc/slideshow/show.asp?gallery=AUTOWELT%20|%20ERWISCHT%20|%20Jul i%2005&p=8&w=435&rn=26%2E07%2E2005+17%3A08%3A45" TARGET="_blank">http://box.motorline.cc/slides...%3A45</A></TD></TR></TABLE><br>Here's a third pic:<p><A HREF="http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/75047.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/75047.jpg</A>

Chris_Doane
07-26-2005, 09:07 AM
Not to burst anyone's bubble but having seen this in person I think a lot of people will be let down if they are hoping for a production car that is close to the Airflite. Looks like there could be a few styling cues from it, yea.

bakerlaw67
07-26-2005, 09:10 AM
I second the airflite. In the front view, you can even make out the flying Chrysler badge! Put the pix side by side and you can see it all - the high door handles, the shadow denoting the side "scoop", the wraparound headlights, the Crossfire-like grille, even the shape of the bottom of the bumper is there.<p>I just wish it was a 4-door hardtop (no pillar) like the concept.

Santeno
07-26-2005, 09:50 AM
I'm not sure what you guys are seeing, but it's definitely not the Airflite:<p><A HREF="http://www.autointell.net/nao_companies/daimlerchrysler/chrysler/chrysler-airflite/Chrysler-Airflite-side-front-350-188.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autointell.net/nao_...8.jpg</A><p>Granted there are some styling touches from that concept, but most of those styling elements can be seen in the crossfire (and in a more realistic manner). The grill shape and side scallops seem to be a derivation of the Crossfire's general front design with a bit of current sebring thrown in. I am surprise however as to how much of the side view styling (especially the c pillar) seems to correspond with current neon styling. I thought DCX was moving away from such organic designs. Oh well, it's still a bit early to tell.

LEXUS FAN!
07-26-2005, 09:52 AM
Isn't this car a little small to be a sebring...it is the size of a Mazda 3??

Supremus
07-26-2005, 11:23 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>LEXUS FAN!</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Isn't this car a little small to be a sebring...it is the size of a Mazda 3??</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yes, it looks smaller, mostly because the greenhouse is so tall... but it's Altima-sized, I believe.

LEXUS FAN!
07-26-2005, 11:55 AM
really? it doesn't look like it, but maybe you're right

Santeno
07-26-2005, 12:00 PM
Guys, the staff verified the identity of the vehicle with the owner of them and at least one other source. They are the Sebring replacement.

LEXUS FAN!
07-26-2005, 12:19 PM
ok...ok...<p>then it is the sebring replacement

caarmike
07-26-2005, 03:09 PM
I think its bigger than a Mazda3 though clealry shorter than the current Sebring. Since this will be based on the Caliber, that makes sense. <p>I only see a faint influence of the Airflite concept, but I see how it fits Chrysler's identity. This car is the bone Chrysler is throwing to those who don't want a wagon, SUV, or rear-drive sedan.

nismo
07-26-2005, 08:26 PM
looks good so far...fresh. If it has a front like the crossfire I'll be happy.

Chris_Doane
07-31-2005, 12:24 PM
<A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/Enthusiasts/Spy_Shots/Spy_Shots_07_Chrysler_Sebring.S178.A9001.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co....html</A><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Explorer_97 at 8:37 PM 7/31/2005</i>

Bass-o-Matic
08-01-2005, 06:40 AM
This looks like a high H-point package (check out the interior shot from tcc.com)... which might go a ways to explain why some think it looks small. Without a whole lot immediately around it (in the exterior shots) to provide scale, the proportions are a bit more "small car".<br>

Nodnarb
08-25-2005, 08:04 AM
<A HREF="http://www.allpar.com/model/stratus01.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.allpar.com/model/stratus01.html</A> <p>Allpar has a new rendering up. It is just a chop, but a likely direction for the car.

Chris_Doane
12-02-2005, 01:19 PM
Sebring Vert:<p><A HREF="http://www.mph-online.com/web/spyphotos/0026" TARGET="_blank">http://www.mph-online.com/web/spyphotos/0026</A> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by CD-BP at 11:01 AM 12/3/2005</i>

against the wall
12-02-2005, 01:30 PM
too much camo to see anything yet

Chris_Doane
12-02-2005, 04:49 PM
BTW, I was just looking at my full rez, raw images again and Im thinking its very possible that soft top is totally fake and hiding a folding hard top.

StevenZoz
12-02-2005, 04:57 PM
could also be the coupe? btw i think theres a thread for this already... its mixed in w/ the dodge stratus

knihc2008
12-02-2005, 05:12 PM
it's definitely a hard top retractable. look at the trunk cut line, which reaches down into the rear 3/4 panel. trademark of any retractable hard top design.

Chris_Doane
12-02-2005, 05:13 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>stevenzoz</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">could also be the coupe? btw i think theres a thread for this already... its mixed in w/ the dodge stratus</TD></TR></TABLE><p>No, the coupe is being dropped for the new Sebrings.

Comrade
12-02-2005, 06:29 PM
There won't be Sebring Coupe? Why?

Chris_Doane
12-02-2005, 07:58 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>comrade</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There won't be Sebring Coupe? Why?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>No. Not sure why they didn't plan a coupe this time around.

Ascariss
12-02-2005, 08:34 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CD-BP</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>No, the coupe is being dropped for the new Sebrings.</TD></TR></TABLE><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>comrade</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There won't be Sebring Coupe? Why?</TD></TR></TABLE><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CD-BP</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>No. Not sure why they didn't plan a coupe this time around.</TD></TR></TABLE><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knihc2008</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it's definitely a hard top retractable. look at the trunk cut line, which reaches down into the rear 3/4 panel. trademark of any retractable hard top design.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>There is your answer. Why have a coupe when the CC will fill both the coupe and cabrio market. i knew something looked wierd with that roof.

Chris_Doane
12-02-2005, 09:30 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Ascariss</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There is your answer. Why have a coupe when the CC will fill both the coupe and cabrio market. i knew something looked wierd with that roof.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Actually it seems there is a little more to it than just that. More on this monday...

GerjurdKing
12-03-2005, 10:16 AM
I see dual pipes. Any word on the engines that will be found in this car? Possibly an SRT in the future?

creon448
12-03-2005, 03:37 PM
The Sebring, Nitro, and Pacifica will most likely use a new V6.

caarmike
12-04-2005, 07:27 AM
Beautiful, its one of those rare convertibles that looks good with the top UP. (And actually has enough glass that you can see out of it with the top up.)

Porschefan
12-06-2005, 09:50 AM
The new Stratus would most likely have to be chunkier in order to continue with the design theme of the 300. Do I also see a hint of the freshened Saab 9-5 in the front? <br><IMG SRC="http://common.weblogsinc.com/common/images/0028247582514448.JPG?0.7821061911247162" BORDER="0"><IMG SRC="http://box.motorline.cc/slideshow/show.asp?gallery=AUTOWELT%20|%20ERWISCHT%20|%20Jul i%2005&p=7&w=435&rn=26%2E07%2E2005+17%3A08%3A42" BORDER="0">

GerjurdKing
12-06-2005, 07:22 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CD-BP</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Actually it seems there is a little more to it than just that. More on this monday...</TD></TR></TABLE> <B></B> <p>Well Monday has come and gone...

M0L0TOV
12-07-2005, 08:07 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>GerjurdKing</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> <B></B> <p>Well Monday has come and gone...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>You read my mind.<p>M0L0TOV

Chris_Doane
12-07-2005, 08:16 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>GerjurdKing</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> <B></B> <p>Well Monday has come and gone...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Oh whoops...forgot to post here. I learned that suppliers for a folding hard top AND a soft top have been sourced for the Sebring vert.

GerjurdKing
12-07-2005, 03:02 PM
Interesting. Let's hope they choose the folding hard top.

Chris_Doane
12-07-2005, 04:14 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>GerjurdKing</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Interesting. Let's hope they choose the folding hard top.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Oh...no, no..Im saying that a folding hard top model AND a soft top model will be available

creon448
12-07-2005, 04:51 PM
Offering both a folding hard top and soft top would not make much sense. They would essentially be two different vehicles.

Chris_Doane
12-07-2005, 05:32 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>creon448</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Offering both a folding hard top and soft top would not make much sense. They would essentially be two different vehicles. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I think you just pointed out why it DOES make sense.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by CD-BP at 6:05 PM 12/7/2005</i>

Charger
02-01-2006, 01:30 PM
<A HREF="http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26215" TARGET="_blank">http://www.gminsidenews.com/fo...26215</A>

bison
02-01-2006, 03:28 PM
<A HREF="http://www.visi.com/~m42/images/DCX-mule.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.visi.com/~m42/images/DCX-mule.jpg</A>

caarmike
02-01-2006, 05:35 PM
Lookin' good, I noticed a wheel design there we havent seen before.<br>Hey what's that other car in the background of the third pic:<br><A HREF="http://www.pictiger.com/" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://images3.pictiger.com/images/1e/2cb0e83dbac6159463a1981e02bc251e.jpg" BORDER="0"></A><br>It kinda looks like a Corolla but its disguised, plus its proportions are like the Chrysler prototype. Could it be the Dodge Avenger?<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by caarmike at 5:06 PM 2/1/2006</i>

Chris_Doane
02-01-2006, 07:40 PM
It's a Sebring.

caarmike
02-01-2006, 08:02 PM
It's so fuzzy that its hard to to tell. Thanks for answering though.

oudidntkn0w
02-03-2006, 11:02 AM
Hey guys, Im the guy who took the pictures that are on GMinsidenews (they are also on jalopnik.com). The car in the background is the same car as the other shots (avenger, sebring, etc). At that time there was 2 of the "avenger" mules there and 2 300SRT8s which looked sweeeet. Sorry the pictures are "fuzzy" but i was parked about 200 ft away to hide myself and it was nighttime, its not so easy to take shots at night, especially when I wasnt using my nighttime mode. Any other questions guys?<p>-Matt S

63Bonneville
02-03-2006, 11:16 AM
I'm wondering when the Sebring/Avenger(nee Stratus) will debut... at what show? The current generation is long in the tooth, not saying that they're bad, but the successors, I know will be far superior, especially the next Sebring convertible rumored to have a folding hardtop! I'm sure the top powerplants in the upcoming cars will be greater the the 200hp V6s offered.<br>Also, not to get off topic, I have to really agree; the SRT versions of the 300's, Magnum's and Chargers are HOT!!!!!!!!!!!!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0"> I'm seen them on the roads, and when when I have, I couldn't stop staring at them! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/eek2.gif" BORDER="0">

bison
02-03-2006, 04:18 PM
Thanks for the pics! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0">

coolbluelb
02-03-2006, 05:41 PM
I can see similarities.<p><IMG SRC="http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/6153/p10101885sc.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.autointell.net/nao_companies/daimlerchrysler/chrysler/chrysler-airflite/Chrysler-Airflie-Concept-side-350-211.jpg" BORDER="0">

against the wall
02-03-2006, 07:51 PM
thats the airflite not the avenger.

Charger
02-03-2006, 11:28 PM
<A HREF="http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=109179#2" TARGET="_blank">http://www.edmunds.com/insidel...179#2</A>

caarmike
02-04-2006, 06:50 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Charger</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><A HREF="http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=109179#2" TARGET="_blank">http://www.edmunds.com/insidel...179#2</A></TD></TR></TABLE><br>This picture of the Sebring really shows off the Airflite-style hood strakes, and yet another new wheel design.

Charger
02-07-2006, 02:40 PM
<A HREF="http://forums.autoweek.com/servlet/JiveServlet?attachImage=true&contentType=image%2Fjpeg&attachment=31291" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.autoweek.com/ser...31291</A><p><A HREF="http://forums.autoweek.com/servlet/JiveServlet?attachImage=true&contentType=image%2Fjpeg&attachment=31292" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.autoweek.com/ser...31292</A><p><A HREF="http://forums.autoweek.com/servlet/JiveServlet?attachImage=true&contentType=image%2Fjpeg&attachment=31293" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.autoweek.com/ser...31293</A>

63Bonneville
02-07-2006, 03:30 PM
What engine, especially the V6 edition(s) will power the next Sebring/Avenger?<br>The current 200hp V6 falls short by today's standards, unless it's a base level of the vehicle.

JBlair
02-07-2006, 04:11 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>63Bonneville</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What engine, especially the V6 edition(s) will power the next Sebring/Avenger?<br>The current 200hp V6 falls short by today's standards, unless it's a base level of the vehicle.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well, they have the 3.5, but they also just unveiled their new 4 liter engine. I'd expect either of those to be available.

nismo
02-07-2006, 05:04 PM
The new 2.4l 4cyl will most likely be the base engine. <p>I can see them using 2 V6s with a higher output V6 for the R/T

creon448
02-07-2006, 06:01 PM
Could they not use the new 4.0L V6?

Comrade
02-07-2006, 06:19 PM
depends if they can mount it transverse-ly. These cars probably have transverse mounted engines. 3.5 250HP for a FWD vehicle is enough.

63Bonneville
02-07-2006, 08:20 PM
A 250hp V6 is suitable and competitive in it's class. We'll find out soon enough.<br>I believe that new 4.0L V6 with 255hp/274ft. lb. torque may be a truck/minivan/SUV engine. A vehicle like the Pacifica needs more than it's 250hp six, maybe an upgrade will be a part of its update. <br>Sorry if that got off-topic.

Comrade
02-07-2006, 08:29 PM
I just remembered I've read here that Chrysler would have 2 new V6 engines: A 4.0 for trucks like you say or RWD cars and a 3.8 transverse mounted for FWD vehicles. The current 3.5 is old now.<p>Does anyone have any information on the 3.8L V6?

FatMan
02-07-2006, 08:30 PM
I'm extremely impressed with how the Sebring's interior is coming together. I must admit that I was apprehensive about how it would turn out, considering the appearance of some of DC's most recent debuts (including Nitro and Caliber, as well as Aspen). But the interior appears refreshingly original and unique to this segment - and importantly, boldly and distinctively American. Very Crossfire-esque - in a good way. If the plastics turn out nicely, then I believe this will be a hit.

Douchebag Jones
02-07-2006, 08:30 PM
i think this time the krauts really killed chrysler.<br>that thing doesn't even look american for christ sake!<p>unless these stupid hollywoodextra pictures are wrong again.<br>

GerjurdKing
02-07-2006, 08:56 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Charger</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><A HREF="http://forums.autoweek.com/servlet/JiveServlet?attachImage=true&contentType=image%2Fjpeg&attachment=31291" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.autoweek.com/ser...31291</A><p><A HREF="http://forums.autoweek.com/servlet/JiveServlet?attachImage=true&contentType=image%2Fjpeg&attachment=31292" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.autoweek.com/ser...31292</A><p><A HREF="http://forums.autoweek.com/servlet/JiveServlet?attachImage=true&contentType=image%2Fjpeg&attachment=31293" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.autoweek.com/ser...31293</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p><br>Whatever you do don't hit the red button!

Cozz
02-08-2006, 05:28 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Douchebag Jones</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think this time the krauts really killed chrysler.<br>that thing doesn't even look american for christ sake!<p>unless these stupid hollywoodextra pictures are wrong again.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>That's OK. It's not your fault you're ignorant and lack the common knowledge to actually conversate with other people. You can blame it in your past child hood. Maybe you were dropped one too many times. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

Monkey
02-08-2006, 07:42 AM
Anyone know when it is to be shown? NY?

Santeno
02-08-2006, 08:14 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Douchebag Jones</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think this time the krauts really killed chrysler.<br>that thing doesn't even look american for christ sake! unless these stupid hollywoodextra pictures are wrong again. </TD></TR></TABLE><br>Dear Douchebag:<p>We do not refer to people's origin, ethnicity, beliefs or sexual orientation by derogatory colloquialisms in these forums. If you really feel the need to speak in such a manner, perhaps you would like to try posting your thoughts over at Autolies. If you would like to continue posting here, you will have to be respectful of how you refer to others or you will find your stay short-lived.<p>Regards,<p>Santeno,<br>Administrator<br>

bison
02-08-2006, 09:00 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Comrade</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Does anyone have any information on the 3.8L V6?</TD></TR></TABLE><br><A HREF="http://www.allpar.com/mopar/new6.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.allpar.com/mopar/new6.html</A><p>The statement "Chrysler actually acknowledged that the 4.0 is based on the 3.5, but also asserts that it is quieter while being more powerful and having a wider torque range" leads me to believe that the 4.0 is a stroked 3.5. This would put it somewhere between 3952cc (96mm bore x 91mm stroke) and 3995cc (96mm bore x 92mm stroke).<p>If this is the case, then it's similar to what Toyota did in deriving the Avalon/RAV4/Camry 3.5 liter V6 from their 4.0 liter truck engine, except the started with a long stroke (95mm) and went short (83mm).<p><i>Modified by bison at 8:17 AM 2/8/2006</i><p>OK, forget all that. It says further down the page that the 4.0 has a 91mm stroke. Less thinking, more reading... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>The 3.8 has 2 valves per cylinder (presumably non-HEMI), so it's hard to get excited about that one.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by bison at 8:23 AM 2/8/2006</i>

Charger
02-10-2006, 12:09 PM
<A HREF="http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/RZapata/2007or2008chrysler006.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i19.photobucket.com/alb...6.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/RZapata/2007or2008chrysler005.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i19.photobucket.com/alb...5.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/RZapata/2007or2008chrysler004.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i19.photobucket.com/alb...4.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b170/RZapata/2007or2008chrysler003.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i19.photobucket.com/alb...3.jpg</A><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here's some bits and pieces of this chrysler;<p>- This appears to be a "base" chrysler: wheel covers, cloth seating, single exhaust pipe, black outside mirrors.<br>- The front end grill is similar to the current crossfire<br>- There are structureless wiper blades.<br>- Headlights are a two bulb and a turn-signal setup which looks like a mix of the crossfire and that 5-door chrysler concept ( i forgot the name)<br>- the back is completly covered with camo, the only thing you can see is a little bit of CHMSL and signal/stop lamps<br>- inside the interior is grey, <br>- the only interior bits shared with the Dodge Cabriler (is that right?) is the steering wheel, gauges, and the radio.<br>- there are silver around the door panel, chrome around shift knob <br>- the backseat has two (large) fixed head rest<br>- the c-pillar inside has some sculptured look<p>so far this sebering looks good so far. Maybe next week i'll draw of how is chrysler will look like. <p></TD></TR></TABLE><br>source: someone over at c&g<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Charger at 2:14 PM 2/10/2006</i>

bison
02-10-2006, 01:04 PM
An interior shot! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I like how the outboard A/C vents are shaped around the dash.

SV
02-10-2006, 06:12 PM
it's hard to tell from the spy photos, but the interior appears to be an improvement design-wise from DCX's recent cars like the caliber and compass.

mzoltarp
02-11-2006, 07:18 AM
the fascination with interior shots is? these all looks like a sea of plastic to me.

bison
02-11-2006, 09:56 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mzoltarp</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the fascination with interior shots is? these all looks like a sea of plastic to me.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Metal dashboards are definitely "out." <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

mzoltarp
02-11-2006, 10:36 AM
haha! I was hoping for early 60's head splitting metal dashboards. Seriously, we all know that dashboards are plastic, but if it looks like the same grade of plastic that Walmart makes its storage containers from, that's not a good thing. The interior has good design but the plastic looks low-end cheap. Let's hope better results will happen in regular production.

caarmike
02-11-2006, 05:39 PM
This thing must not be very fuel efficient. A lot of the recent spy photos were taken at gas stations <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>As for the interior its very likely they are using substandard materials for the prototypes. Lots of manufacturers do that. I got to sit in some pre-production Honda Civics last fall. They had a lot of hard shiny plastics in them. The production models use a much more finely grained material.

63Bonneville
02-11-2006, 06:03 PM
That could be correct about materials used in pre-production prototypes; I was once in an early Nissan Titan, pre-production prototype at a small show, and the IP plastic was cheap and shiny. The production version is a far better grade.<br>You can't always judge by the photos, and the Stratus/Sebring is a bit long in the tooth, I would figure the new generation will be superior.

DSC-OFF
02-15-2006, 09:15 AM
<A HREF="http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c306/ef0ne2/nbhfyr64uyhoib956.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i30.photobucket.com/alb...6.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.motortrend.com" TARGET="_blank">MT</A><br> <br>

knicks125
02-18-2006, 07:00 AM
<A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/Enthusiasts/Spy_Shots/Spy_Shots_2007_Chrysler_Sebring.S178.A10035.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co....html</A>

DSC-OFF
02-18-2006, 07:01 AM
<A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/gallery/10710_EKXLOWGQJKXXC.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co...C.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/gallery/10711_MKESIZQEWVZWT.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co...T.jpg</A><p>TCC<br> <br>

SV
02-18-2006, 09:14 AM
wow, the center stack looks really good...not sure about the rest of the interior though...

IcedG35
02-18-2006, 09:50 AM
and i thought we'd seen the last of gated shifters

bison
02-18-2006, 11:10 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>IcedG35</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and i thought we'd seen the last of gated shifters</TD></TR></TABLE><br>I think there are more companies moving to gated shifters than are moving away from them. Pretty much everyone except Honda and Ford.

caarmike
02-18-2006, 05:41 PM
Blowing up the shot makes the interior look a lot better. <br>Anyone notice the "Inert" engraving on the steering wheel. It either means that the airbag doesn't work or its warning the driver there's a really weak 4-banger under the hood. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Charger
02-28-2006, 07:57 PM
WOOOOOOOOOOW!!!!!<br><IMG SRC="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a232/imghost79/front.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a232/imghost79/back.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>source:DCX<br> <br>From a video, clearly the new Avenger<p><A HREF="http://www.dcxmediaservices.com/videoptrs/wms/dctv/MEDIA/2006/feb/geneva_chrysler_lo.wvx" TARGET="_blank">HERE:</A>

flippin'round07
02-28-2006, 08:34 PM
Wow, that is cool. So, where did that video surface? This definitely looks like a production version of the Avenger. But will this be the Avenger, or the Stratus?

Chris_Doane
02-28-2006, 08:41 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>flippinround07</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow, that is cool. So, where did that video surface? This definitely looks like a production version of the Avenger. But will this be the Avenger, or the Stratus?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The car from Dodge will be called Avenger.

Pavilion
02-28-2006, 10:04 PM
If this car is to replace the Stratus, then all I can say is that it looks better than I could have hoped for.<br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/driver.gif" BORDER="0">

sashok
02-28-2006, 11:48 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Pavilion</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If this car is to replace the Stratus, then all I can say is that it looks better than I could have hoped for.<br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/driver.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I'll second that; I love it already

mzoltarp
03-01-2006, 07:00 AM
In comparison on styling Avenger = yum! Camry = yawn

Banker
03-01-2006, 08:06 AM
The styling looks good. You can clearly see some new Dodge family traits in the front end of the new Avenger and the Rampage concept truck that appeared a couple of weeks ago. I expect this is what the next Caravan will look like on the front.<p>I like it. Now for those hard plasticky Dodge interiors... let's hope the Avenger has a good looking interior to go with its pretty new face.

megadethmartyr
03-01-2006, 09:26 AM
Anyone know how many gears the tranny has? I would say it's a little disappointing there's no manumatic to play with (the Fusion has been bashed for this), however if they throw in a 5 speed auto it should help.

bakerlaw67
03-01-2006, 11:42 AM
Great screen cap. Can't get mine to do it so can somebody post the image @ 47 seconds in? There is a silver car in the background to the left of the 300 that I can't make out. It has a longer, sloping backlight (like the avenger?) Could it be the Sebring? It must be a Chrysler. Cirrus? Breeze? :P<p>Check it out it in a higher quality mode <A HREF="http://www.dcxmediaservices.com/videoptrs/wms/dctv/MEDIA/2006/feb/geneva_chrysler_hi.wvx" TARGET="_blank">HERE:</A> <p>And at 00:11 and 00:57, there's another unidentifiable car. It seems too big for a Crossfire, but has the Chrysler wings. ME412???<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by bakerlaw67 at 1:57 PM 3/1/2006</i>

Banker
03-01-2006, 12:49 PM
The Avenger looks much better than the Caliber...less truck like.

Banker
03-01-2006, 12:51 PM
I didn't see it.

SOLAR
03-01-2006, 02:35 PM
the "unidentified" car that baker was talking about is indeed the me412

caarmike
03-01-2006, 05:30 PM
I agree that its the Avenger but there's way to little detail to make any judgement on the styling.

Charger
03-02-2006, 06:11 PM
<A HREF="http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=109438" TARGET="_blank">http://www.edmunds.com/insidel...09438</A>

DaDesign
03-02-2006, 06:18 PM
Sweet, love how it looks like a charger, yet its not. can't wait for the chrysler one.

caarmike
03-02-2006, 07:11 PM
That camo paint just hurts my eyes. I can't really tell any of the details of the shape even though the body is almost entirely uncovered.

Cozz
03-02-2006, 07:34 PM
It's a bit Nissan-ish

Charger
03-03-2006, 10:38 AM
<A HREF="http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/avenger.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/avenger.html</A><p><A HREF="http://raywert.blogspot.com/2006/03/spy-shots-chrysler-sebring-convertible.html" TARGET="_blank">http://raywert.blogspot.com/20....html</A>

63Bonneville
03-03-2006, 11:44 AM
I would figure the V6 edition(s) would have to be at least 250-hp now in order to be competitive. I understand DCX has a new V6 coming up for cars, as well as a new truck V6, 250-hp with greater torque such as the one in place in the upcoming Dodge Nitro.

justinjfong
03-03-2006, 07:26 PM
with the next generation stratus and sebring being based on the mitsu galant platform according to allpar, the back of the avenger does seem to remind me of the galant

nismo
03-04-2006, 09:48 AM
They're actually wrong, its based off the next gen Lancer like the Caliber.... I don't know where they got the idea its based off the Galant. Its been widely known that DCX decided to just stretch the Lancer platform. In the spypics its kind of obvious these cars are no where as big as the Galant IMO.<p>and Allpar is supposed to be a DCX enthusiast site.... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Doesn't Chrysler already have a V6 with 250hp? If I'm not mistakened, in the Nitro press releases you can see that the "new" V6 is really just a stroked 3.5&gt;to&gt;4.0 with some improvements, its not an entirely new engine.

bakerlaw67
03-04-2006, 03:49 PM
<IMG SRC="http://static.flickr.com/42/98594966_9e3e2982a0_m.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>This sketch looks just like the car in the background of that video @ 00:46-00:48 seconds. Check that sloping backlight that ends behind the rear wheel.

against the wall
03-04-2006, 05:25 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bakerlaw67</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><IMG SRC="http://static.flickr.com/42/98594966_9e3e2982a0_m.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>This sketch looks just like the car in the background of that video @ 00:46-00:48 seconds. Check that sloping backlight that ends behind the rear wheel.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>so, for those who thought the present charger shouldve had 2 doors....tada!

jro4566
03-05-2006, 10:18 AM
Words cannot explain how cheap those A/C vents look...

bison
03-05-2006, 03:36 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>nismo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They're actually wrong, its based off the next gen Lancer like the Caliber.... I don't know where they got the idea its based off the Galant. Its been widely known that DCX decided to just stretch the Lancer platform. In the spypics its kind of obvious these cars are no where as big as the Galant IMO.<p>and Allpar is supposed to be a DCX enthusiast site.... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><br>I think they mean the next generation Galant platform, not the current one.

creon448
03-05-2006, 04:48 PM
No, they're wrong.

Charger
03-16-2006, 03:30 PM
<A HREF="http://blogs.edmunds.com/.ee8ff7b" TARGET="_blank">http://blogs.edmunds.com/.ee8ff7b</A>

Cozz
03-16-2006, 06:27 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Charger</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><A HREF="http://blogs.edmunds.com/.ee8ff7b" TARGET="_blank">http://blogs.edmunds.com/.ee8ff7b</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p>What the heck is a passenger doing on the back seat? I don't think I ever seen something like that, ever.

against the wall
03-16-2006, 07:03 PM
maybe to test leg room, comfortability, wind noise?

Chris_Doane
03-16-2006, 08:37 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok, we'll tell you right up front. The car is real. As for the background? Well, let's just say it's been enhanced a little. The prototype in question is the 2007 Chrysler Sebring convertible.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Hah, no joke there. That whole background is fake. Not much hot weather testing going on in Death Valley (the location of that background) in March.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by CD-BP at 8:44 PM 3/16/2006</i>

MrMGMan
03-17-2006, 04:20 AM
It seems likely that Dodge will want the Avenger to follow the Calibre across the Atlantic to do battle with mid-sized European saloons like the Vauxhall Vectra, Ford Mondeo and Renault Laguna. <p>Unfortunately, with that interior design (and likely quality - based on first impressions of the Calibre), I don't see it mounting anything resembling a credible opposition to the more established cars in the sector. <p>It might find buyers if they repeat the Calibre's pricing policy of being at least 3,000 cheaper (and considerably better equipped) than comparable cars from European brands, but then it'll lose it's chance of appealing to the image conscious, and have make do with competing in the budget end of the market against Hyundai, Kia, Daewoo/Chevy and Skoda.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by MrMGMan at 3:57 AM 3/17/2006</i>

HEMI x 3
04-14-2006, 04:00 PM
Does anyone know when these will debut since they are not at NY. I thought these were going to be '07s. DC's current mid size cars are getting old.

knicks125
04-14-2006, 04:11 PM
Chrysler in June but Dodge is still up in the air (everything is up for speculation).

Chris_Doane
04-14-2006, 04:33 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Chrysler in June but Dodge is still up in the air (everything is up for speculation).</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yep, Sebring debuts June 22 at the DCX Proving Grounds. Ive heard speculation that the Avenger will not debut until the LA show in Nov.

mzoltarp
04-15-2006, 07:23 AM
These vehicles need to be in dealers NOW.

bison
04-15-2006, 09:07 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mzoltarp</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">These vehicles need to be in dealers NOW.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Two years ago, really. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emdgust.gif" BORDER="0">

HEMI x 3
04-16-2006, 07:35 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CD-BP</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Yep, Sebring debuts June 22 at the DCX Proving Grounds. Ive heard speculation that the Avenger will not debut until the LA show in Nov.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>If the Dodge does not show until November does that mean they will not be in showrooms this fall? Why would DC debut a potentially important car like this at their proving grounds and not an big Auto show to get some pre-production press. DC has been lacking in competing with the likes of Toyota and Honda in this segment. Have they given up on ever being a player in the family car segment? <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by HEMI x 2 at 7:54 AM 4/16/2006</i>

Cozz
04-16-2006, 08:07 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>HEMI x 2</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If the Dodge does not show until November does that mean they will not be in showrooms this fall? Why would DC debut a potentially important car like this at their proving grounds and not an big Auto show to get some pre-production press. DC has been lacking in competing with the likes of Toyota and Honda in this segment. Have they given up on ever being a player in the family car segment? <p><br><i>Modified by HEMI x 2 at 7:54 AM 4/16/2006</i></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Maybe you're getting ahead of yourself here. Maybe they don't think it's ready yet or simply rather continue to test it more before the final product is public. DCX has waited at least 2 years for the updates, I don't see a problem is it's held back one last season.

Chris_Doane
04-16-2006, 09:24 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>HEMI x 2</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>If the Dodge does not show until November does that mean they will not be in showrooms this fall? Why would DC debut a potentially important car like this at their proving grounds and not an big Auto show to get some pre-production press. DC has been lacking in competing with the likes of Toyota and Honda in this segment. Have they given up on ever being a player in the family car segment? <p><br><i>Modified by HEMI x 2 at 7:54 AM 4/16/2006</i></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well when DCX has their own event outside of an auto show, they have ALL the media attention. If they'd debuted the Sebring at NYIAS, they might have lost press to the other cars being debuted.

HEMI x 3
04-17-2006, 03:01 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CD-BP</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Well when DCX has their own event outside of an auto show, they have ALL the media attention. If they'd debuted the Sebring at NYIAS, they might have lost press to the other cars being debuted.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>They may get the automotive press but they will not get the general press that a major auto show brings.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Cozz</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Maybe you're getting ahead of yourself here. Maybe they don't think it's ready yet or simply rather continue to test it more before the final product is public. DCX has waited at least 2 years for the updates, I don't see a problem is it's held back one last season.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The current Sebring/Stratus platform has been out since 2001. If there is not an all new '07 this fall going over 6 years in this segment is stretching it. Plus these cars were never real competitors. They sell on price not on their reputation for reliability. It would be nice if DC could make a splash in this market like it has in others. If they are going to be bread and butter cars they need to screw them together right. They are not going to be able to substationally increase share in this market with bold styling like they have in other markets. If they come out of they gate with problems they will never make it up on looks alone. I am so tired of hearing how great the Accord and Camry are.

DaDesign
04-17-2006, 03:58 PM
its better to be late then have a bad production and I think reveiling it at the DCX Proving Grounds is a great idea... it will get more attention then lets say NY, where alot of sedans debuted.<p>as for dodge, not sure when they can debut their car. whats after june any big events? <br>dream cruse? elegence thing? jackson auction? LA show?<p>

against the wall
04-17-2006, 06:34 PM
they can do like what honda did with the civic. do like public preview things and then put it on sale a few weeks later and then put it at the auto shows.

Chris_Doane
04-17-2006, 07:48 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>HEMI x 2</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>They may get the automotive press but they will not get the general press that a major auto show brings.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>I think they'll do fine. The auto pubs will be there. The metro Detroit area papers will be there and the wire services (Associated Press, Reuters, etc.) will be there. Of course the wire services feed all the world's publications.

Charger
04-23-2006, 08:25 PM
Stratus/Avenger spy shots<p><A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/Enthusiasts/Spy_Shots/Spy_Shots_2007_Dodge_Sebring.S178.A10327.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co....html</A>

cheongyei
04-24-2006, 02:15 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>HEMI x 2</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I am so tired of hearing how great the Accord and Camry are.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>The Accord and Camry are great!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/2cool.gif" BORDER="0">

Philsshon
04-24-2006, 03:52 AM
it's a baby charger. :)

fatfaso
04-25-2006, 10:03 AM
The car isn't even out yet, and already I'm craving the inevitable SRT version. Make it AWD and drop a hemi in it!

HEMI x 3
04-25-2006, 02:16 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>cheongyei</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>The Accord and Camry are great!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/2cool.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Too funny.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>fatfaso</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The car isn't even out yet, and already I'm craving the inevitable SRT version. Make it AWD and drop a hemi in it!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I am hoping they make an AWD version of the convertible. I doubt it will have the HEMI. Too small. If they make an SRT it will probably be a 6 cylinder but they may go with the turbo 4 from the Caliber.

Nurburgring
04-25-2006, 03:14 PM
Wow, I cant wait for it especially with the news of the addition of the SRT!

Charger
05-02-2006, 07:01 AM
<A HREF="http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=114920" TARGET="_blank">http://www.edmunds.com/insidel...14920</A>

Santeno
05-02-2006, 09:02 AM
So the design is basically a baby Charger? I'm not sure if it's wise for Dodge to rely so heavily on a single polarising design. I'm all for family resemblance and design elements, but IMHO, each vehicle should incorporate them into their unique design and not just imitate a succesful design from another model.

Cozz
05-03-2006, 05:30 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Santeno</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So the design is basically a baby Charger? I'm not sure if it's wise for Dodge to rely so heavily on a single polarising design. I'm all for family resemblance and design elements, but IMHO, each vehicle should incorporate them into their unique design and not just imitate a succesful design from another model.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>I fully agree. One thing that gets me is the current Sebring isn't a small car to begin with and the Charger isn't that much bigger. If these two are about 70% of the same looks then they will compete with each other more than other brands. The Camry and Charger interior space are close to each other as it is, I wonder how the Sebring is going to fit between all this.

CalinG7
05-03-2006, 10:20 AM
The size difference between the Stratus and the Charger, externally at least, is the same as you get between a 5-series and a 7-series, E-class and an S-class; Stratus at about 190 inches long, Charger at about 200 inches. The differences are even greater than the BMW or Mercedes models I mentioned, though, since those are all RWD, but one Dodge is RWD while the other is FWD. There is enough differentiation to have both, IMO.

knicks125
05-15-2006, 11:16 AM
<A HREF="http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/avenger.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/avenger.html</A><p>New interior spied - looks good - I'd like to push the red button <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

nismo
05-15-2006, 11:36 AM
RED BUTTON <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>The interior looks pretty good. I really want to see how these 2 models come out. They actually look like 2 different cars this time around. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> And if sold in Europe I think they might stand a chance. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emcocktl.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Allpar is off with some of their info..

Mil
05-15-2006, 11:53 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>nismo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> ... And if sold in Europe I think they might stand a chance. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emcocktl.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I was thinking the same thing, they have a chance to prove them selves. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

Banker
05-15-2006, 02:03 PM
The interior looks good. Much better than I thought. I like the silver trim on the door. It breaks up the grey look. The center stack looks good. I wonder what trim this is. I didn't think Chrysler would offer a manual with a V6 - yet the interior looks loaded - like you would see with the V6. Just a few more weeks until we see this car in the flesh.

HEMI x 3
05-15-2006, 02:07 PM
Although I like the style the dash and door panel it looks like the same hard plastic that is in my Durango.

Banker
05-15-2006, 02:08 PM
I just checked AllPar and it seems that this is a six speed Diesel for Europe. That means we likely won't see it here in the states. Too bad. I like the look though and expect this to be a good seller for Chrysler.

GoLeafsGO
05-15-2006, 06:47 PM
best looking chrysler/dodge/jeep interior i have seen in the new generation of cars.

bison
05-15-2006, 07:02 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>nismo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Allpar is off with some of their info.. </TD></TR></TABLE><br>That's sort of an Allpar tradition. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>On the other hand, sometimes they do get the scoop.

AM2
05-15-2006, 07:18 PM
Are there any plans for Chrysler to release the Sebring Sedan in Asian markets?<br>So Chrysler can offer a more fuel efficient mid-size sedan alternative to the 300C which they offer with a 3.5 liter V6 and optional Hemi V8.<p><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by AM2 at 11:27 AM 5/16/2006</i>

Cozz
05-16-2006, 05:07 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>AM2</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are there any plans for Chrysler to release the Sebring Sedan in Asian markets?<br>So Chrysler can offer a more fuel efficient mid-size sedan alternative to the 300C which they offer with a 3.5 liter V6 and optional Hemi V8.<p><br><i>Modified by AM2 at 11:27 AM 5/16/2006</i></TD></TR></TABLE><p>I think that's actually a main goal for DCX. They want a biger share of the Asian market in total with Chrysler, Dodge and Jeep. Expect almost all their models to be there. The Dogde Hornet was meant for both the Euro and Asian market. I wonder if they'll go as planed.

TeeDi
05-16-2006, 05:10 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>AM2</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are there any plans for Chrysler to release the Sebring Sedan in Asian markets?<br>So Chrysler can offer a more fuel efficient mid-size sedan alternative to the 300C which they offer with a 3.5 liter V6 and optional Hemi V8.<p><br><i>Modified by AM2 at 11:27 AM 5/16/2006</i></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Not sure about Asian market's AM2, but in Australia, DCX will release the Dodge Avenger/Stratus in Australia, but not the Chrysler Sebring version.

Banker
05-16-2006, 11:40 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>GoLeafsGO</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">best looking chrysler/dodge/jeep interior i have seen in the new generation of cars. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Supposedly beginning this fall - Chrsyler (like all automakers it seems) is going to have a new focus on the interiors of their cars. The Sebring will be the leading edge - followed by an updated LX interior to be featured in the 300, Magnum and Charger. The big test will be in the interiors of the new minivan due next spring.<p>Personally I think the minivan is where they need to pay the most attention as it is their bread and butter vehicle that is less affected by high gas prices as the SUVs will be.

AM2
05-16-2006, 01:07 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>TeeDi</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Not sure about Asian market's AM2, but in Australia, DCX will release the Dodge Avenger/Stratus in Australia, but not the Chrysler Sebring version.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I think it would really help them expand their market share in the Asian region if they bring in the Sebring... I think the size is perfect for Asian roads.<br>Surprisingly, in my country even though the 300C is imported in lower volumes(because the full-size car market is small), Its actually doing ok... <br>I guess its because most of the other cars comparable in size are european luxury cars that cost twice as much as the 300C.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by AM2 at 5:12 AM 5/17/2006</i>

Roadster44
05-16-2006, 01:09 PM
Good point on interiors, American cars have always been behind on quality of interiors - plastics, leather, switchgear. People need to feel good about sitting in their car whie being stuck in traffic which is increasingly becoming the norm.

StevenZoz
05-23-2006, 03:40 PM
<A HREF="http://autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060523/FREE/60523001/1024" TARGET="_blank">http://autoweek.com/apps/pbcs..../1024</A>

HEMI x 3
05-23-2006, 04:07 PM
It is obviously is not going to be a hardtop convertible that had been rumored.<p>Judging by the camo on the trunk in the driver side pic it looks like it may have a clam shell trunk lid for the top to stow under.<p><IMG SRC="http://cwimg.us.publicus.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?NewTbl=1&Avis=CW&Dato=20060523&Kategori=PHOTOS02" BORDER="0"><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by HEMI x 2 at 5:59 PM 5/23/2006</i>

Rymanrph
05-24-2006, 01:39 PM
I believe they are doing a hard top convertible and I think it has been hinted at that there will be a softop version as well. I'm pretty sure I've seen hardtop mules with canvas stretched over the top.

HEMI x 3
05-24-2006, 02:41 PM
They will be doing one or the other but not both. Taking a second look at the pics the top looks a little awkward around the rear window so they may have done as you say and placed canvas over it to disguise the hardtop.

Nurburgring
05-24-2006, 05:59 PM
From the spyshots, this doesnt seem to be any larger to the Caliber. Is the new Stratus by any chance, just a Caliber sedan?

caarmike
05-24-2006, 06:22 PM
I know ya'll don't like Autospies too much, but they just got the best spy photos yet of the Sebring sedan. This is the first time its ever been seen without that black and white camoflauge paint.<br><A HREF="http://www.autospies.com/article/index.asp?articleId=7497&categoryId=12" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autospies.com/artic...Id=12</A><p>The finished car has a chromed beltline and black trim insert in the c-pillar that makes it look more like the Airflite concept.

against the wall
05-24-2006, 07:21 PM
it looks like a glorified sedanized dodge caliber but with chrysler cues.

Speedster S
05-24-2006, 08:07 PM
The rear kinda reminds me of an WRX. IMO it looks good.

Cozz
05-25-2006, 04:27 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>against the wall</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it looks like a glorified sedanized dodge caliber but with chrysler cues.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Right on the point. I do see the Caliber sides on it. It's the rear lights that aren't matching any thing that CG has as of now. Those lights are a bit odd.

Cadavillac
05-25-2006, 04:46 AM
Why make the entire trunk a clamshell for a soft top? Something is up there. The original spy photos from MPH-online most definitiely show a hard top convertible... from the side profile there's simply not enough width on the B-pillar to allow the hardware for a soft top... plus the obvious clamshell trunk like every other hardtop 'vert out there.<p>I think we're going to see both, or a hardtop only.

carmaniac
05-25-2006, 09:00 AM
WCF has a a couple more pictures:<p><A HREF="http://www.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos.cfm/country/acf/spyphotoID/6060525.001/chrysler/new-2007-chrysler-sebring-spy-photos" TARGET="_blank">http://www.worldcarfans.com/sp...hotos</A>

nismo
05-25-2006, 11:38 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Speedster S</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The rear kinda reminds me of an WRX. IMO it looks good.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yeah I see what your talking about. I think its going to look.... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> Its nicer than the GM midsizers IMO.

cardudeATL
05-25-2006, 12:08 PM
Profile makes me think 2003 Chrysler Airflite:<p><A HREF="http://www.globalcar.com/techimage/1606_1.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.globalcar.com/techimage/1606_1.jpg</A>

Banker
05-25-2006, 01:18 PM
With the details emergin on the new Sebring - it looks better and better. In black with the chrome accents and the nice aluminum wheels it looks stunning. I'm sure this will look excellent once the wraps are off. Just a few more weeks until Chrysler officially introduces this car.

Chris_Doane
05-25-2006, 01:25 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>HEMI x 2</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They will be doing one or the other but not both.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Dont be so sure....

creon448
05-26-2006, 01:01 PM
<A HREF="http://blogs.edmunds.com/.ee9195b/cmd.233/enclosure..ee9195c" TARGET="_blank">http://blogs.edmunds.com/.ee91...9195c</A> <p>Source: <A HREF="http://blogs.edmunds.com/Straightline" TARGET="_blank">http://blogs.edmunds.com/Straightline</A>/<p>I don't think that this is an SRT model.<p>Here are some more:<p> <p><A HREF="http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/GeneralFuture/articleId=115506#6" TARGET="_blank">http://www.edmunds.com/insidel...506#6</A> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by creon448 at 6:08 PM 5/26/2006</i>

DaDesign
05-26-2006, 04:01 PM
hmm pretty intresting pics, cant wait...

against the wall
05-26-2006, 08:08 PM
those headlights are rather large

the1
05-27-2006, 10:34 AM
The taillights are huge too... overall, not a great design. :(

HEMI x 3
05-29-2006, 09:55 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CD-BP</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Dont be so sure....</TD></TR></TABLE><p>This is pure speculation on my part but I wonder if Dodge will have there own version of a convertible? <p>Maybe a hardtop vert for the more luxurious Sebring and a soft top for the Dodge.<p>DC could do 2 verts different enough to distinguish them like they did with the previous SLK and Crossfire.<p>I am sure a reasonably priced vert with Dodge's bold styling cues would sell well.

Roadster44
05-29-2006, 10:02 AM
No wonder Chrysler stepped with the styling of this car. Its not so much for the US marker which typically feature bland designs in this segment, but rather for EU market. Look at the shape of rear license cutout, its shaped to fit EU plates.

HEMI x 3
05-29-2006, 10:39 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Roadster44</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No wonder Chrysler stepped with the styling of this car. Its not so much for the US marker which typically feature bland designs in this segment, but rather for EU market. Look at the shape of rear license cutout, its shaped to fit EU plates. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I think this is something DC is doing with all designs they intend to sell overseas. Most of their newer models allow for the larger plate.

erzhik
05-29-2006, 12:12 PM
Are there any Chrysler/Dodge factories near Detroit somewhere or near Lansing? I want to see if I can find it testing.<p><br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by erzhik at 12:55 PM 5/29/2006</i>

caarmike
05-29-2006, 06:25 PM
Well, the factory for this particular car is in Sterling Heights, MI, so if you really want to see it I suggest camping out there.

bakerlaw67
05-30-2006, 09:53 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>cardudeATL</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Profile makes me think 2003 Chrysler Airflite:<p><A HREF="http://www.globalcar.com/techimage/1606_1.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.globalcar.com/techimage/1606_1.jpg</A> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>See the bottom of page 1 of this thread. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"><br><A HREF="http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=16035&page=1" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carspyshots.net/zer...age=1</A>

cardudeATL
05-30-2006, 11:13 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bakerlaw67</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>See the bottom of page 1 of this thread. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"><br><A HREF="http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=16035&page=1" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carspyshots.net/zer...age=1</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Thanks! Glad I'm not the only who was seeing that! This thread has gotten so long that I didn't even bother to read the first page (whoops!)<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cool.gif" BORDER="0">

maluch
05-30-2006, 02:14 PM
Caught these pics of the Sebring while heading up I-75 (Michigan Highway) this Memorial Day weekend. The second this driver saw my camera, the little bastage tried to run me off the road. Snapped some decent pics anyway, methinks.<p>Notice the slightly camouflaged Jeep ahead of the Sebring...<p><A HREF="http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20060527memorialday012small5ya.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/7044/20060527memorialday012small5ya.th.jpg" BORDER="0"></A><p><A HREF="http://img173.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20060527memorialday007small5oo.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img173.imageshack.us/img173/9329/20060527memorialday007small5oo.th.jpg" BORDER="0"></A><p><br><A HREF="http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20060527memorialday012small5ya.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img444.imageshack.us/my...a.jpg</A><br> <A HREF="http://img444.imageshack.us/my.php?image=20060527memorialday007small4xe.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img444.imageshack.us/my...e.jpg</A><p><br>FULL ALBUM OF HIGH-RES VERSIONS OF THE PICS IS HERE:<p><A HREF="http://community.webshots.com/album/550897552uYQzzD" TARGET="_blank">http://community.webshots.com/...YQzzD</A><p><br>...wish I had gotten a good pic of the prepubescent punk behind the wheel...<br>

maluch
05-30-2006, 02:17 PM
BTW, if you go to the Webshots album, notice that next to each pic there is a tiny "Full Size" link. The pics are about 2400 pixels when full

Monkey
05-30-2006, 03:01 PM
Notice that the Wrangler in front is the 2007.

DaDesign
05-30-2006, 03:03 PM
those are some nice pic, good find. im counting the days till we see this car :D

bakerlaw67
05-30-2006, 03:22 PM
The day is TODAY!<p>AllPar has it<br><A HREF="http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/avenger.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/avenger.html</A>

caarmike
05-30-2006, 05:26 PM
Great work mlauch. These are the best overall Sebring shots yet. The world needs more eagle-eyed car nuts like yourself. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0">

StevenZoz
05-30-2006, 05:47 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bakerlaw67</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The day is TODAY!<p>AllPar has it<br><A HREF="http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/avenger.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.allpar.com/cars/dodge/avenger.html</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p>what are you talking about?

HEMI x 3
05-30-2006, 06:01 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>stevenzoz</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>what are you talking about?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I am thinking the same thing. There is nothing there I have not seen before. Most of it is old

Nurburgring
05-30-2006, 06:06 PM
Maybe someone removed it? because Im seeing the same old stuff.

bakerlaw67
05-30-2006, 08:02 PM
"<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>from allpar</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The next generation Dodge Stratus / Dodge Avenger and Chrysler SebringThanks, 0h20, for the feature lists!! New as of 5-30: spy shot of Mexican version, the Chrysler Cirrus!"</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I thought that meant today. That "mexican" car is legit, but it is this year's. Sorry guys.<p><IMG SRC="http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f153/57Sweptside/cirrus.jpg" BORDER="0"><IMG SRC="http://www.chrysler.com.mx/CIRR/galeria/img7.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>

Cadavillac
06-01-2006, 06:30 AM
To see a Mexican Seb...er, Cirrus is interesting nonetheless. I wish the Sebring/Stratus would've seen the 2.4L HO Turbo engine up here in the states. It's a shame we didn't... it's a lot cooler engine than the 2.7. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bowdown.gif" BORDER="0">

Fabia SDI Elegance
06-01-2006, 01:27 PM
Yesterday on M-59:<p><A HREF="http://img170.imageshack.us/img170/7569/sebring13ie.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img170.imageshack.us/im...e.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://img461.imageshack.us/img461/6811/sebring21mq.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img461.imageshack.us/im...q.jpg</A><br>

AutoSaurus
06-08-2006, 08:18 PM
According to the June 5th edition of Automotive News there will indeed be two versions of the convertible. One each of the soft and hard tops. The new tops are to be made by (Wilhelm Karmann) GmbH instead of the current manufacturer.<p>EDIT: to add full name.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by AutoSaurus at 4:46 AM 6/9/2006</i>

Comrade
06-08-2006, 11:47 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>AutoSaurus</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">According to the June 5th edition of Automotive News there will indeed be two versions of the convertible. One each of the soft and hard tops. The new tops are to be made by GmbH instead of the current manufacturer.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Don't you need the name of the company before "GmbH" ?

AutoSaurus
06-09-2006, 04:45 AM
oops. sorry.<p>Wilhelm Karmann

StevenZoz
06-09-2006, 01:25 PM
IMO, having 2 diff convertible versions is stupid. they should just pick one or the other.

HEMI x 3
06-09-2006, 01:46 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>stevenzoz</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">IMO, having 2 diff convertible versions is stupid. they should just pick one or the other.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Ditto. As cheap as DC is on the little things they are going to the expense of 2 convertible versions.<p>Maybe, just maybe (I highly doubt it) they may be doing like the old SL's of the '80's where it is a soft top convertible w/ an optional hard top attachment for winter use.<p>I just don't see them doing a retractable hardtop like the current SL and doing a soft top also.<p>

CalinG7
06-09-2006, 02:38 PM
I can see it making sense if you think of it as manufacturers usually make one coupe and one convertible. In this case, the hardtop convertible also takes the place of the coupe since it doesn't have to sacrifice rigidity, and the softtop is your typical convertible cruiser.

HEMI x 3
06-09-2006, 02:48 PM
Name any model car that has a retactable hardtop and a softop.<p>Retactable hartops usually replace doing both a standard hardtop and softop.<p>

JBlair
06-09-2006, 02:50 PM
You guys are also forgetting that this model is intended to be sold in both the US and Europe, so the inclusion of a soft and hard top convertible makes sense. The europeans would not put up with a soft top Sebring, since there are other cars in its class (and in smaller classes for that matter) that only offer hard tops.

HEMI x 3
06-09-2006, 03:23 PM
I am not forgetting anything. Chrysler may very well be doing a retractable hardtop but not both. If Pontiac can do it for a reasonable price I am sure DC can. I am saying there is no way DC is building a soft top and a retractable hardtop in the same model.<p>I stated a scenario in a previous post where they may be doing 2 different models such as a Dodge version also which may account for this but the more I think about that it does not make financial sense.<p>Those spy pics we have are seen so far could be cloth camouflage on a retractable hardtop which may be feeding the speculation of 2 convertibles.<p>BTW Retractable hardtops have many advantages(quiet, looks, comfort). Although manufactures have greatly improved the rigidity of all cars over the years any inherent flex in a convertible is not improved with a retractable hardtop over using soft tops. Once the roof is not a hard point on the body is does nothing for body flex.

JBlair
06-09-2006, 04:37 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>HEMI x 2</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I am saying there is no way DC is building a soft top and a retractable hardtop in the same model.<p>I stated a scenario in a previous post where they may be doing 2 different models such as a Dodge version also which may account for this but the more I think about that it does not make financial sense.<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>How do you know? Where did you get your information from? Fact is, people who ARE in the know contradict what you say.

HEMI x 3
06-09-2006, 05:13 PM
Who is in the know? Supplier sources? They may still be considering which way to go. The convertible is still a year out.<p>When the 300 and Magnum came out Dodge was not supposed to get a sedan version of the LX now there is a Charger.<p>CG was not going to build 2 door RWD cars. No market for them. Now it looks like the Challenger is a go.<p>I have been to the Newark plant serveral times where they build the Durango and upcoming Aspen. 4 months prior to the anouncement of the Aspen the Newark plant "official statement" had no plans for model expansion. <p>There has been speculation Mitsubishi may get its own version of the HB platform.<p>Manufactures leak misleading or distort info all the time.

JBlair
06-09-2006, 05:48 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>HEMI x 2</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Who is in the know? Supplier sources? They may still be considering which way to go. The convertible is still a year out.<p>When the 300 and Magnum came out Dodge was not supposed to get a sedan version of the LX now there is a Charger.<p>CG was not going to build 2 door RWD cars. No market for them. Now it looks like the Challenger is a go.<p>I have been to the Newark plant serveral times where they build the Durango and upcoming Aspen. 4 months prior to the anouncement of the Aspen the Newark plant "official statement" had no plans for model expansion. <p>There has been speculation Mitsubishi may get its own version of the HB platform.<p>Manufactures leak misleading or distort info all the time. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>People in the know (spy photographers and company insiders) have hinted strongly that both models are in the pipeline. And contrary to what you may believe, the models are already frozen and it would be too late to decide for or against doing both. If they are (and all the evidence points to the fact that they will be) the decision has already made and cannot be changed.

Cadavillac
06-09-2006, 08:00 PM
I'm sure the soft top will be built for those (like me) who prefer to have a convertible *and* a trunk. Plus, I feel like the rental companies wouldn't be too happy to spring for a retractable hard top just to rent out... Having both makes sense as you can cater to both crowds.

DaDesign
06-13-2006, 07:19 PM
9 more days... cant wait. to see this car.

Chris_Doane
06-13-2006, 09:06 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>HEMI x 2</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just don't see them doing a retractable hardtop like the current SL and doing a soft top also.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Hah, OK, but that's exactly what they are doing.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>HEMI x 2</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Who is in the know? Supplier sources? They may still be considering which way to go. The convertible is still a year out.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Actually convertible production starts in Feb of 2007.

JBlair
06-13-2006, 09:14 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>DaDesign</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">9 more days... cant wait. to see this car.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Wait, what's in 9 days?

Chris_Doane
06-13-2006, 10:52 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Wait, what's in 9 days?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>June 22 is the media event at Chelsea Proving Grounds. The Sebring sedan will debut there for sure along with Pacifica. Not sure if the vert or other cars will be there. However do not expect to see Avenger there.

JBlair
06-13-2006, 10:59 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CD-BP</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">June 22 is the media event at Chelsea Proving Grounds. The Sebring sedan will debut there for sure along with Pacifica. Not sure if the vert or other cars will be there. However do not expect to see Avenger there.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Press pics will be released at that time too? (the only reason I'm asking is because sometimes the automakers show cars to the press like that, but don't allow any pictures to be released)

ndjan
06-13-2006, 11:28 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>HEMI x 2</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am not forgetting anything. Chrysler may very well be doing a retractable hardtop but not both. If Pontiac can do it for a reasonable price I am sure DC can. I am saying there is no way DC is building a soft top and a retractable hardtop in the same model.<p>I stated a scenario in a previous post where they may be doing 2 different models such as a Dodge version also which may account for this but the more I think about that it does not make financial sense.<p>Those spy pics we have are seen so far could be cloth camouflage on a retractable hardtop which may be feeding the speculation of 2 convertibles.<p>BTW Retractable hardtops have many advantages(quiet, looks, comfort). Although manufactures have greatly improved the rigidity of all cars over the years any inherent flex in a convertible is not improved with a retractable hardtop over using soft tops. Once the roof is not a hard point on the body is does nothing for body flex.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Pontiac, VW, Volvo, even Hyundai will offer the retractable hardtop... if they all offer them, Chrysler would be crazy not to.

HEMI x 3
06-14-2006, 01:46 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ndjan</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Pontiac, VW, Volvo, even Hyundai will offer the retractable hardtop... if they all offer them, Chrysler would be crazy not to.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I am not saying Chrysler will not offer a retractible hard top. I am just saying I don't think they will offer both the rectractable hard top and a soft top.<p>No one here has come up with with a manufacture that has a model that does both.

JBlair
06-14-2006, 02:00 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>HEMI x 2</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am not saying Chrysler will not offer a retractible hard top. I am just saying I don't think they will offer both the rectractable hard top and a soft top.<p>No one here has come up with with a manufacture that has a model that does both.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Just because no other company makes both in one model does not in any way (at ALL) mean Chrysler won't. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0">

Chris_Doane
06-14-2006, 11:01 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Press pics will be released at that time too? (the only reason I'm asking is because sometimes the automakers show cars to the press like that, but don't allow any pictures to be released)</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Photos of the sedan will be available for sure.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>HEMI x 2</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I am not saying Chrysler will not offer a retractible hard top. I am just saying I don't think they will offer both the rectractable hard top and a soft top.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Hah you really have a big "I told you so" coming. Time for you to stop talking about this I think. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0"> I mean you do realize the 2 different tops have already been confirmed dont you???<p><A HREF="http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060605/FREE/60602013/1003/TOC&refcat=Automotive%20News%20Table%20of%20Contents" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autonews.com/apps/p...tents</A>

HEMI x 3
06-14-2006, 12:13 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CD-BP</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Hah you really have a big "I told you so" coming. Time for you to stop talking about this I think. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0"> I mean you do realize the 2 different tops have already been confirmed dont you???<p><A HREF="http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060605/FREE/60602013/1003/TOC&refcat=Automotive%20News%20Table%20of%20Contents" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autonews.com/apps/p...tents</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p>I commented on that article last week if you had read the prior post you would have seen that.<p>I will take the "I told you so" and say "I was wrong" when Chrysler officially announces the availability of both tops. Until then I am free to comment about this as anyone.

Chris_Doane
06-14-2006, 02:29 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>HEMI x 2</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>I commented on that article last week if you had read the prior post you would have seen that.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Hah yea but that would've been 10 seconds I never would've gotten back.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>HEMI x 2</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Until then I am free to comment about this as anyone.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Hah and free to be 100% wrong. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Not sure why you are so intent on doubting this. Would it help any if I told you I've seen both hardtop and softtop prototypes this year?<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by CD-BP at 3:55 PM 6/14/2006</i>

DaDesign
06-20-2006, 02:38 PM
2 more days... and yeah the idea of having 2 convetibles is a great idea, so what if its never been done before, ther is always a first for everything and why not let chrysler be the first to do.<p>Thuresdays gonna be a big day... first US Soccer will make to the round of 16 or not and then we the debut of the Chrysler Sebring. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/banana.gif" BORDER="0">

HEMI x 3
06-20-2006, 02:57 PM
It could be we only see the sedans and the vert(s) debut at a show.

bakerlaw67
06-21-2006, 09:39 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>HEMI x 2</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Name any model car that has a retactable hardtop and a softop.<p>Retactable hartops usually replace doing both a standard hardtop and softop.<p></TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>HEMI x 2</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>I am not saying Chrysler will not offer a retractible hard top. I am just saying I don't think they will offer both the rectractable hard top and a soft top.<p>No one here has come up with with a manufacture that has a model that does both.</TD></TR></TABLE><br><U><U><B>Mazda MX-5 Power Retractable Hard Top</B></U></U> <A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/Auto_News/Daily_Edition/Daily_Edition_Jun_21_2006.S173.A10556.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co....html</A><p>Actually, if you read your own posts, you are pretty adamant that they will not build both <br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>HEMI x 2</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Re: (JBlair) 4:23 PM 6/9/2006 <p>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<p>I am not forgetting anything. Chrysler may very well be doing a retractable hardtop but not both...<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Save your breath. Nobody's listening anymore.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by bakerlaw67 at 11:14 AM 6/21/2006</i>

Ascariss
06-21-2006, 09:56 AM
I was on autoweek cuz of the lr2 pics and ran into this, was it posted?<p><A HREF="http://forums.autoweek.com/servlet/JiveServlet/download/31-35211-771754-51341/a.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.autoweek.com/ser...a.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://forums.autoweek.com/servlet/JiveServlet/download/31-35211-771754-51342/b.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.autoweek.com/ser...b.jpg</A><p>not sure if i like it or hate it. seems to fall apart in the front.

against the wall
06-21-2006, 10:06 AM
wow. the front is awful. looks like its stuck in the 90's. ill reserve my judgment of the rest when hi-res pics come.

SHEPO
06-21-2006, 10:23 AM
I don't like it (judging from these pics; I'll wait for official though); I'm not digging Chrysler's new styling direction, save the 300C.

GerjurdKing
06-21-2006, 10:39 AM
The front end looks a bit like the '07 ES.

62Lincoln
06-21-2006, 10:48 AM
I can't believe they didn't try harder to get some 300 into the design. It's sooooo vanilla. It has "straight to rental fleets" written all over it.

Banker
06-21-2006, 10:57 AM
I'm not sure I like it. The black one that was photographed a few weeks ago looked good - so I will reserve judgment until I see high res pictures.<p>So this is going to be revealed tomorrow? At what event?

DaDesign
06-21-2006, 12:47 PM
yeah, im not liking the front either... but the back is pretty good. but as others said, I will wait till tomorrow and see the real deal.<p>PS: not sure what event but I know its at the DCX Proving Grounds.<p>

AutoSaurus
06-21-2006, 01:04 PM
Looks like these photos are real. <p>See the new thread:<br><A HREF="http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=20045" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=20045</A>

Santeno
06-21-2006, 01:48 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>AutoSaurus</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">See the new thread:<br><A HREF="http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=20045" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=20045</A></TD></TR></TABLE><br>Continue discussion in the new thread please.

Fabia SDI Elegance
08-03-2006, 07:52 PM
Some pics from yesterday:<p><A HREF="http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=slika017qu0.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/9462/slika017qu0.th.jpg" BORDER="0"></A><p><A HREF="http://img351.imageshack.us/my.php?image=slika011ym9.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img351.imageshack.us/img351/575/slika011ym9.th.jpg" BORDER="0"></A><p><A HREF="http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=slika012lr3.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9420/slika012lr3.th.jpg" BORDER="0"></A><p><A HREF="http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=slika013ic8.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/5540/slika013ic8.th.jpg" BORDER="0"></A><p><A HREF="http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=slika015ck4.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/4006/slika015ck4.th.jpg" BORDER="0"></A><p><A HREF="http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=slika014ri6.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/4065/slika014ri6.th.jpg" BORDER="0"></A><p><A HREF="http://img518.imageshack.us/my.php?image=slika016ij9.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/8484/slika016ij9.th.jpg" BORDER="0"></A><p><A HREF="http://img126.imageshack.us/my.php?image=slika018ue6.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/3453/slika018ue6.th.jpg" BORDER="0"></A><p><A HREF="http://img366.imageshack.us/my.php?image=slika019gx6.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/8454/slika019gx6.th.jpg" BORDER="0"></A><p><A HREF="http://img64.imageshack.us/my.php?image=slika020vp5.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/7730/slika020vp5.th.jpg" BORDER="0"></A><p><A HREF="http://img75.imageshack.us/my.php?image=slika021ro4.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/5183/slika021ro4.th.jpg" BORDER="0"></A><p><A HREF="http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=slika022pw5.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/2990/slika022pw5.th.jpg" BORDER="0"></A>

Supremus
08-04-2006, 04:47 AM
<br>What's up with the clear tail lights?

knicks125
08-17-2006, 09:16 AM
<A HREF="http://mopar.rpmplanets.com/chrysler/spy_photos_2007_sebring_conver_1_000892.asp" TARGET="_blank">http://mopar.rpmplanets.com/ch...2.asp</A>

caarmike
09-04-2006, 03:09 PM
We now have all-but-official shots of the Dodge Avenger (Sebring twin/Stratus replacement)<p><A HREF="http://www.srtforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3837188&postcount=2179" TARGET="_blank">http://www.srtforums.com/forum...=2179</A><p>As expected it looks like a scrunched Charger with a Caliber grille.<p>Those who did not like the Sebring will be pleased to know that it shares no sheetmetal with the Sebring and appears to have a different interior as well.

erzhik
09-04-2006, 03:21 PM
looks interesting... smaller charger

galv
09-04-2006, 03:26 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>caarmike</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As expected it looks like a scrunched Charger with a Caliber grille.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Plus Dodge Magnum lights. That rear end is just WAY too scrunched up (look at the first pic)

StevenZoz
09-04-2006, 03:36 PM
wow. im impressed. its pretty nice. it will definetly sell this time and appeal to buyers. looks just like a mini charger <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

mzoltarp
09-04-2006, 03:51 PM
The Avenger will sell like mad and the Sebring will be forgotten. The Avenger is a home run.

StevenZoz
09-04-2006, 04:21 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mzoltarp</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Avenger will sell like mad and the Sebring will be forgotten. The Avenger is a home run.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>new sebring convertible will still do well, reguardless

against the wall
09-04-2006, 04:29 PM
probably because theres no dodge counterpart. or just because people like it. a dodge counterpart that looks like this and not a sebring rebadge would do well if it had different options and features and such.<p>this definetly looks worlds better than the sebring and yell at me if you like but it reminds me a lot of the cobalt from the b-pillar back. the way they scrunched it up like that makes it look like it belongs in the cobalt segment.<p>where was this pic taken by the way?

DoMiNo
09-04-2006, 04:54 PM
I like it! I'm surprised how well the Charger look fit onto such a small car. It will sell, yes. A far cry from the "who the hell approved this design?" look of the Sebring.

the1
09-04-2006, 05:23 PM
The Avenger looks great. Nice move to make it look like a smaller Charger.

scorpio14
09-04-2006, 05:25 PM
The Avenger looks good for a small Charger look-a-like... wondering if Chrysler will bring it to Australia to expand the Dodge range... considering 4-cylinder mid-size cars are becoming popular here... i rather they bring this here then the Sebring

knicks125
09-04-2006, 06:58 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>scorpio14</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Avenger looks good for a small Charger look-a-like...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Exactly...plus the Caliber's grille - I am not sure if that's a good thing. I applaud for its attempt to create a family look, but replicating the Charger on a smaller vehicle didn't exactly work for me. Obviously I am in the minority here but I can't say the design to mix a Charger and Caliber excite me very much. I will say this much, however, from first impression, it looks better than the Sebring.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by knicks125 at 10:34 PM 9/4/2006</i>

CosworthKid
09-04-2006, 07:17 PM
Looks perfect! Its centuries ahead of the crappy Sebring, i wouldnt even link the two cars if i didnt know, excellent job from Dodge <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by CosworthKid at 3:33 AM 9/5/2006</i>

Humblecarguy
09-04-2006, 07:45 PM
<IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> All i have to say is i guess the word effort isnt in design teams dictionary <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/sleep.gif" BORDER="0">