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salebg
04-24-2005, 03:08 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>fishkiller</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Image from an italian site<p><A HREF="http://www.forumfree.net/?t=3408209&view=getlastpost#lastpost" TARGET="_blank">http://www.forumfree.net/?t=34...tpost</A><p><IMG SRC="http://69.93.7.242/uploadsff/post-431696-1114384835.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><br><i>Modified by Santeno at 11:26 AM 4/25/2005</i></TD></TR></TABLE><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Santeno at 11:27 AM 4/25/2005</i>

bentleyboy
04-25-2005, 06:23 AM
Looks very RX-8 ish, is this a concept from a show??????????

fishkiller
04-25-2005, 07:58 AM
i belive is a chop started from the showcar kamal the next suv alfa romeo<br>but everything is possibile<br>is very nice!

italo
04-25-2005, 08:58 AM
Wow, looks really nice. I wonder if this is anywhere near what it will look like. The front shield grille is much more triangular than the curved "heart" shaped version on the current crop of cars. I like the stance though, very aggressive.

syclone
04-26-2005, 03:49 PM
possible they could jump to 149 like they did with the 150 series?

arese
04-27-2005, 03:39 PM
This is an old photoshop, that was made by a member of the virtual Alfa 147 club if I am not mistaken. The picture was made after one of the members apparently saw the car (a 1:1 scale model I believe) at Zagato (which is just down the road from the Centro Stile). I contacted the guy, as he took photographs too, but he could not send them to me as it would threaten his friend's job. Typical story! <p>For the latest info on Progetto 940, you should read this recent Italiaspeed article (one day old), which actually contains the <B>truth</B> about how far the car is in development. It is only at the feasibility phase, where the general design is being analysed on the computer, using Unigraphics. <p><A HREF="http://www.italiaspeed.com/2005/cars/alfa_romeo/04/2704.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://www.italiaspeed.com/200...4.htm</A><p>Oh, and the rear end should look like this <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><A HREF="http://www.italiaspeed.com/2004/cars/alfa_romeo/11/148/rear_end.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.italiaspeed.com/200....html</A><p><br>Edit: The car will probably also have round front lights...

against the wall
04-27-2005, 05:43 PM
when is alfa supposed 2 come back to the US. it better be soon or at least in time 4 me 2 buy a car

salebg
05-20-2005, 08:21 AM
<A HREF="http://www.autoweek.nl/forum/read.php?f=12&i=74536&t=74536" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoweek.nl/forum/r...74536</A>

LSS_C6
05-21-2005, 03:02 PM
too premature images! But it`s a car that should impress a lot!

Ascariss
05-21-2005, 03:08 PM
<IMG SRC="http://img261.echo.cx/img261/3621/102415pi.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>It may be a 1 series chop, but sadly the clay model for the car does look very much like this, again there will be minor changes but the rear is basically gonna look like that.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Santeno at 10:18 AM 5/24/2005</i>

Roadster44
05-22-2005, 12:20 PM
A Chevy Cobalt SS!!! hahahaha

Regazzoni
05-24-2005, 06:39 AM
I sincerely hope the final look will be different or at least better convincing in the flesh.<br>I think that '8C' styling is not the "right way" for future Alfas.

Rossell
05-24-2005, 08:11 AM
Can anyone pick up the new Auto Express? Theres a render of a 148 that looks nothing like the 1-Series chop.<p>Its basically this:<p><A HREF="http://www.supercars.net/cars/2003@$Alfa%20Romeo@$8C%20Competizione%20Conceptx.h tml" TARGET="_blank">http://www.supercars.net/cars/....html</A><p>As a hatchback.

carrera4
05-25-2005, 04:48 AM
this is what auto express published:<br><IMG SRC="http://img158.echo.cx/img158/6766/ar149may056rs.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>source: <A HREF="http://www.alfaowner.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.alfaowner.com</A><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by carrera4 at 5:33 AM 5/25/2005</i>

taskbearer
05-25-2005, 07:44 PM
Looks fantastic if thats the look its going to take. Its a natural evolution of the prefacelift 147.

Santeno
05-26-2005, 11:26 AM
here is another rendering, following the same general shape but including a pentagon style rear window:<p><A HREF="http://www.autoblog.com.es/fotos/alfaromeo/149.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoblog.com.es/fotos/alfaromeo/149.jpg</A>

Regazzoni
05-27-2005, 06:56 AM
The chops so far does not convince me.<br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Regazzoni at 12:13 AM 5/30/2005</i>

r3vilo
05-27-2005, 06:59 AM
those sketches kind of comfirm the link between the 8C show car and the 148. Of course, this doesn't mean that its going to happen, it just means that its a probability. Does anyone know whether there are any prototypes around?

arese
05-28-2005, 09:06 AM
The front end (left hand side) sketch is pretty good - it will look almost identical to that. The rear end sketch is nice, but not how the car will look.<p>The italiaspeed photoshop is based on a 1:1 design model - I have seen it, and it is an accurate representation, although the lines will be less sharp. The following sketch, which was made early last year, is also based on the model, and is if anything more accurate, although the wheel arches are quite bulbous, as on the italiaspeed photoshop.<p><IMG SRC="http://members.chello.nl/willem.patty/images/148_rear_800.jpg" BORDER="0">

Roadster44
05-29-2005, 12:04 PM
Front end on right side looks like a Subaru Tribeca.

Tidal
05-29-2005, 01:07 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Roadster44</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Front end on right side looks like a Subaru Tribeca.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It looks more like the Kamal concept actually. <p>If the 14? turns out looking close to the 8C it will be a very good looking car, better that the 159 imo. Anyone know what it will be based on, is it the Stilo, something out of GM, the 159?

salebg
07-29-2005, 12:41 PM
<A HREF="http://www.autozeitung.de/index.php?page=messe_iaa&action=detail&id=84" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autozeitung.de/inde...id=84</A>

CosworthKid
07-30-2005, 01:39 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>syclone</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">possible they could jump to 149 like they did with the 150 series?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I think 149 will indeed be the name of the 147 replacement.Most magazines and websites reffer to it as the 149 for months now<p>PLEASE tell me that the last AutoZeitung illustration is 100% NOT-ACCURATE!This looks like an ugly Korean-Chinese colaboration,NOT an <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> Alfa!<br>

drugmirko
08-06-2005, 02:05 PM
<IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/eek2.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0"> :<p><A HREF="http://www.coroflot.com/user_files/individual_files/thumbnails/thumbnail_74986_TUzLQgYQ692l7I73uDkE08EKW.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.coroflot.com/user_f...W.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.coroflot.com/user_files/individual_files/74986_3MdcysV2vkzYaDMERB7LFg79i.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.coroflot.com/user_f...i.jpg</A>

Nuvolari
08-07-2005, 04:37 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CosworthKid</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I think 149 will indeed be the name of the 147 replacement.Most magazines and websites reffer to it as the 149 for months now<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>As far as I know Alfa is moving to the "9" for all new models that don't have names (149, 159 and 169) and stay with these numbers for all following generations.<br>Hopefully the last two illustrations don't show the real car... they're all very ugly <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0">

mzoltarp
08-07-2005, 05:55 AM
The autozeitung rendering looks like a Subaru. If Alfa ever returns to the USA they will need gorgeous cars and the rendering is terrible.

LSS_C6
08-07-2005, 09:28 AM
This don`t mean nothing. It is just a plan with it size plan. I hope it goes way diferent from that proposal.

CosworthKid
08-07-2005, 11:04 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>drugmirko</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/eek2.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0"> :<p><A HREF="http://www.coroflot.com/user_files/individual_files/thumbnails/thumbnail_74986_TUzLQgYQ692l7I73uDkE08EKW.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.coroflot.com/user_f...W.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.coroflot.com/user_files/individual_files/74986_3MdcysV2vkzYaDMERB7LFg79i.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.coroflot.com/user_f...i.jpg</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Those images are 1000000% unrealistic. Alfa insiders and major magazines did indeed confirm that the 149 will have influences from the 8C Competizione(forgive my Italian!), especially at the rear end. What i dont understand about the new Alfa philosophy is this: their top-end sports coupe, the Alfa GT, has a relatively classy and underrated look(compared to the other Alfa's).In comparison, the new 159 and Brerra/Spider look much bolder and fresh..and now the smallest, and cheapest, Alfa 149 gets its design from their sports car(8C) concept. I dunno it just feels like it should be the other way around <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/werd.gif" BORDER="0">

drugmirko
08-07-2005, 11:50 AM
I think that those pictures are fake to... at least I hope so. and there was like 100 chops and drawings of that 8C based 149 around.<p>as for the GT... it does appear bit bland compared to Brera, frankly... to me it looks bit bland compared to 156 and 147 (now there's a heretic thought <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> ). but it was made couple of years before this "new wave" Alfa's. it looks that Fiat is finally positioning Alfa as their sporty premium brand, so it is natural to turn it's design towards stylish aggressiveness. and if there is some glorious past sporting inheritance (from where 8C Competizione drew it's styling) it's natural to draw clues from it on a production model... cause, as well as reminiscence of your own past by new model, this kind of history comes something like added bonus by itself... just look at Ford GT!

CosworthKid
08-07-2005, 12:36 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>drugmirko</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think that those pictures are fake to... at least I hope so. and there was like 100 chops and drawings of that 8C based 149 around.<p>as for the GT... it does appear bit bland compared to Brera, frankly... to me it looks bit bland compared to 156 and 147 (now there's a heretic thought <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> ). but it was made couple of years before this "new wave" Alfa's. it looks that Fiat is finally positioning Alfa as their sporty premium brand, so it is natural to turn it's design towards stylish aggressiveness. and if there is some glorious past sporting inheritance (from where 8C Competizione drew it's styling) it's natural to draw clues from it on a production model... cause, as well as reminiscence of your own past by new model, this kind of history comes something like added bonus by itself... just look at Ford GT!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Hehe, i agree mate. I guess what i'm saying is that when all of these new Alfas hit the streets, its looking like the smallest one will be the most aggresively styled while the top( price wise) model will be the plainest!!Still, the Alfa GT looks great

Reppu
08-10-2005, 11:12 PM
Those images Drugmirko posted remind me to the old 80's Alfa SZ<p>Besides, i thought that Alfa's top end coupe was the Brera and not the GT? At least that is what it seems if you take a look at the engine range.

MrMGMan
08-11-2005, 09:00 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>drugmirko</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/eek2.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0"> :<p><A HREF="http://www.coroflot.com/user_files/individual_files/thumbnails/thumbnail_74986_TUzLQgYQ692l7I73uDkE08EKW.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.coroflot.com/user_f...W.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.coroflot.com/user_files/individual_files/74986_3MdcysV2vkzYaDMERB7LFg79i.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.coroflot.com/user_f...i.jpg</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Have they been rifling through MG Rover's old design archives for the Rover 75 facelift?<IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cool.gif" BORDER="0"> The shape of the front headlight lenscover does look AWFULLY familiar.... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0">

husseindesign
08-11-2005, 09:34 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>drugmirko</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/eek2.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0"> :<p><A HREF="http://www.coroflot.com/user_files/individual_files/thumbnails/thumbnail_74986_TUzLQgYQ692l7I73uDkE08EKW.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.coroflot.com/user_f...W.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.coroflot.com/user_files/individual_files/74986_3MdcysV2vkzYaDMERB7LFg79i.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.coroflot.com/user_f...i.jpg</A></TD></TR></TABLE><br>Donnow why you guys are referring to these pics. Coroflot.com is design portflio site with thousands of students' and amateurs' works. Noone said that the vars displayed there are designed according to some insider information.

salebg
08-20-2005, 11:05 AM
<A HREF="http://www.forum-auto.com/uploads/200507/cliomax_1121623707_407.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.forum-auto.com/uplo...7.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.autozeitung.de/pages/messe_iaa/desktop_download.php?filename=1.jpg&downloadfile=images/84/01_d.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autozeitung.de/page...d.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/4459/punto6b7bt.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img41.imageshack.us/img...t.jpg</A>

Ascariss
08-20-2005, 11:16 AM
the first pic seems to be the real deal.

ll0ll
08-20-2005, 11:25 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Ascariss</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the first pic seems to be the real deal.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>That first picture is the same shop as the 2nd picture:<p><A HREF="http://www.forum-auto.com/uploads/200507/cliomax_1121623707_407.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.forum-auto.com/uplo...7.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/9404/wer7ah.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/9404/wer7ah.jpg</A><p><br>It's just blurred to give the impression its the real thing.

husseindesign
08-20-2005, 11:59 AM
yes it's a chop by DeLusi, the designer of Autozeitung

Ascariss
08-20-2005, 12:27 PM
the rear shot looks like its from indoors, like some showing to dealers, that is why the bg is cut out.

ll0ll
08-21-2005, 03:03 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Ascariss</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the rear shot looks like its from indoors, like some showing to dealers, that is why the bg is cut out.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yes, but it is a shop. A member of autoscoops.be who has seen the car in real says that impression is almost spot-on.<br>Maybe you can take a look at the wheels on both shops, they are the same.

drugmirko
08-21-2005, 03:49 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ll0ll</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>That first picture is the same shop as the 2nd picture:<p><A HREF="http://www.forum-auto.com/uploads/200507/cliomax_1121623707_407.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.forum-auto.com/uplo...7.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/9404/wer7ah.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/9404/wer7ah.jpg</A><p>It's just blurred to give the impression its the real thing.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>shop, shop.... that second picture is shoped from these one:<p><A HREF="http://www.autogaleria.pl/tapety/img/alfa_romeo/alfa_romeo_147_2004_02_s.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autogaleria.pl/tape...s.jpg</A><p><br>

cowboysnkisses
08-22-2005, 12:03 AM
and that first pic is a chop from a BMW 1. I saw it compared to the original beemer somewhere.

Dazed
08-23-2005, 11:43 PM
Photoshopped or not, the direction Alfa is taking for the 147 replacement is clear.<p>Alfa Centro Stile has been a little jealous of all the attention the Giugiaro designed Brera and 159 are getting, so it looks like they are trying to develop their own style as inspired by 8C concept which was designed at Alfa Centro Stile.<p>This approach seems good as it will ensure 159 and 149(?) will not have 'same sausage different length' stylling.<p>Unfourtunatley for Centro Stile it looks like the Giugiaro design theme is superior (and less contrived)...but I guess we will have to wait and see.

salebg
09-19-2005, 01:24 PM
<A HREF="http://www.autostaller.de/Bilder/Alfa/zukunft/149/149one.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autostaller.de/Bild...e.jpg</A>

LSS_C6
09-20-2005, 02:59 AM
The new 149 seems like the most beautifull and amazing car of the C class! It`s unbeliveble! Seems like a sports car!

The Stig
09-20-2005, 05:08 AM
That sketch is absolutely STUNNING!!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/eek2.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I love Alfa's styling direction and I really hope they could make it across the pond, keeping the passion but also upping the reliability.<p>I think a car like this would be the death knell for the bland GTi.

salebg
10-07-2005, 01:41 PM
<A HREF="http://www.d-signet.it/images/autopareri/149_ps.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.d-signet.it/images/...s.jpg</A><br>

r0b
10-07-2005, 03:19 PM
lol, this chops from autopareri are ql <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0">

Marticos
10-08-2005, 02:42 AM
The voices say that it will come partially used the platform of the<br>new Fiat Stilo, using but various suspensions and specific engine

salebg
10-14-2005, 11:29 AM
<A HREF="http://www.autotitre.com/forum/up/0e0860df82.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autotitre.com/forum/up/0e0860df82.jpg</A>

Ascariss
10-14-2005, 12:16 PM
Sketches and impressions are nice and all, but has anyone here seen a picture of a prototype of this thing? I haven't seen anything, not even any mules of 147s. When is this supposed to be released? Next year?

Lukynix
10-15-2005, 03:10 PM
From CLUB ITALIA MOTORI<p><A HREF="http://clubitaliamotor.forumup.it/viewtopic.php?t=534&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=40&mforum=clubitaliamotor" TARGET="_blank">http://clubitaliamotor.forumup...motor</A><p>look page 5!

Ascariss
10-15-2005, 03:36 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Lukynix</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">From CLUB ITALIA MOTORI<p><A HREF="http://clubitaliamotor.forumup.it/viewtopic.php?t=534&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=40&mforum=clubitaliamotor" TARGET="_blank">http://clubitaliamotor.forumup...motor</A><p>look page 5!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I am not signing up for a forum to look at one picture, even if it is the first spy picture. We don't force anyone here to have to sign up to view the spy pics, not sure why other forums do it. Rather stupid if you ask me.

Lukynix
10-15-2005, 04:50 PM
I thought v' I interested I have not made it for my Forum. I have many images to show to you that here not there are.

spwolf
10-16-2005, 12:47 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Lukynix</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I thought v' I interested I have not made it for my Forum. I have many images to show to you that here not there are.</TD></TR></TABLE><p><br>good, thank you for visiting our forums...cya!

Ascariss
10-16-2005, 01:11 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>spwolf</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p><br>good, thank you for visiting our forums...cya!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>That is not how we treat new users. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Lukynix, as the founder of your forum, you could have posted the image here, and pasted a link to your forum telling people there is more information there, albiet in italian which many users here do not speak.<p>You are welcome to post here, images included, but since at CSS we don't force people to register to view the forum, I would like more admins to do that the same with their forums.

Lukynix
10-16-2005, 02:56 AM
I did not want to create a drama with those images. E' the rule of my Forum to be registred. I have simply intentional to share with you the images that I have.<p><br>Returning to the Alfa Romeo, the argument of which we are dealing. <br>We have understood that the Alfa's segment C will derive from 8c Competizione and supports that it will call 149 and not 148.<p><br>(I use the translator in order to write)

dt2thesequel
10-16-2005, 04:35 AM
The suspense got the best of me...since he's obviously not going to bother posting them i'll take the initiative...<p><IMG SRC="http://www.d-signet.it/images/autopareri/149boh.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>...and...<p><IMG SRC="http://www.mitoalfaromeo.com/Public/data/Michi149/2005101215319_149940beta13wr.jpg" BORDER="0">

Omar
10-16-2005, 07:29 AM
look at the creaseline along the side of the car just below the windows... just like the 1-series!

husseindesign
10-16-2005, 07:32 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>omar</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">look at the creaseline along the side of the car just below the windows... just like the 1-series!</TD></TR></TABLE><br>That's because it's a 1-series chop. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Donnow.. That pic of the model looks to me like an early suggestiuon of the design of the 8C Compitizione. I can see it's a coup anf not a hatchback. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

Lukynix
10-16-2005, 12:34 PM
Nearly sure it will resume many lines of the 8c! Not watched the photos inserted in that way, do not have more than much sense.

CosworthKid
10-16-2005, 06:37 PM
That 1-series chop looks like a chinese attempt for another rip-off car that looks like an Alfa and Bmw!!I hope the 149 will look better than that in the front cause i still cant see how they will translate the 8C to a small hatch

salebg
10-21-2005, 02:30 PM
<A HREF="http://hometown.aol.de/TotoAlfista/alfa149.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://hometown.aol.de/TotoAlfista/alfa149.jpg</A>

Lukynix
10-22-2005, 12:02 AM
It is the new 149!

salebg
12-11-2005, 01:28 PM
<A HREF="http://www.autotitre.com/forum/up/f5d361ee72.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autotitre.com/forum/up/f5d361ee72.jpg</A>

geary
12-12-2005, 01:13 AM
Nice use of Skyline lights on a Kamal Concept.

salebg
12-13-2005, 07:41 AM
<A HREF="http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b350/alfaromeomilano/P1010309.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i22.photobucket.com/alb...9.jpg</A>

CosworthKid
12-13-2005, 12:38 PM
Haha, it looks like one of those cartoon sketches of supercars, which are made to look funny and out of proportion! It looks nice though, definately very unusual and id probably preffer this unusual hatch than the new euro Civic cause this looks like a design that might stand the test of time, like most Alfa's do.

salebg
12-17-2005, 12:14 PM
<A HREF="http://www.autotitre.com/forum/up/62df7f4cfd.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autotitre.com/forum/up/62df7f4cfd.jpg</A>

salebg
12-24-2005, 01:20 PM
<A HREF="http://www.forum-auto.com/uploads/200512/jeunealfiste_1135363920_alfa_139.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.forum-auto.com/uplo...9.jpg</A>

CosworthKid
12-24-2005, 04:47 PM
wow!what happened to the 8C inspired front nose??This looks more "normal" i guess, but not as individual.

salebg
01-27-2006, 09:47 AM
<A HREF="http://www.autotematic.it/forum/files/149-1_124.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autotematic.it/foru...4.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.autotematic.it/forum/files/149_126.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autotematic.it/forum/files/149_126.jpg</A>

SHEPO
01-27-2006, 10:47 AM
is that real? it looks awesome!

Paul2006
01-27-2006, 03:06 PM
I really dont like those rear lights. They look like an after-thought in my opinion. I dont like the headlights either. The bonnet just looks arkward trying to help shape the headlights. I actually prefer the pre-facelifted <I>147</I>.

salebg
02-17-2006, 08:57 AM
<A HREF="http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/5264/14927su.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img113.imageshack.us/im...u.jpg</A>

CosworthKid
02-18-2006, 12:00 PM
Guys i have a confession to make: all these months ive been looking at these CGI's of the 148 with the 8C type front and i was thinking, well it looks kinda dodgy and even ugly sometimes. But wow, last night after seeing the last one, i went to bed and dreamt of the bloody thing!And boy was i in love. Kept thinking of this, in shiny black with the chrome in front, alongside a black Citroen C6 and i was in heaven..or should i say the glory days of the 50s(im not that old mind!) This car is for car enthusiasts only, and i love it!

salebg
03-14-2006, 09:13 AM
<A HREF="http://www.forum-auto.com/uploads/200603/djioul_1142095863_pict4459.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.forum-auto.com/uplo...9.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.forum-auto.com/uploads/200603/djioul_1142095880_pict4460.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.forum-auto.com/uplo...0.jpg</A>

knihc2008
03-14-2006, 01:22 PM
bring the damn company over already!

CalinG7
03-14-2006, 02:07 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>salebg</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><A HREF="http://www.forum-auto.com/uploads/200603/djioul_1142095863_pict4459.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.forum-auto.com/uplo...9.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.forum-auto.com/uploads/200603/djioul_1142095880_pict4460.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.forum-auto.com/uplo...0.jpg</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Love Alfa, and they definitely need to bring the brand to the US already, but I'm not feeling those chops. The looks are awkward, not beautiful or sporty like they should be.

CosworthKid
03-14-2006, 02:21 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CalinG7</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Love Alfa, and they definitely need to bring the brand to the US already, but I'm not feeling those chops. The looks are awkward, not beautiful or sporty like they should be. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I like the general shape and it looks gorgeous from some angles, but when i just got used to the 8C style headlamps of the early CG's now they change em? I hope these are not official cause i agree, it looks awkward from the front.

polas
05-18-2006, 04:58 AM
<A HREF="http://arcy79.altervista.org/_ALTERVISTA_HT/149_post.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://arcy79.altervista.org/_...t.jpg</A>

Nurburgring
05-18-2006, 05:25 AM
It looks like Giugiaro's studio so I guess he designs this?

CosworthKid
05-18-2006, 05:32 AM
Now THAT is a great rear!Having seen all the previous sketches and CG's i was worried about the "stubby" rear with the round lights but this looks top notch. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

Reppu
05-18-2006, 06:52 AM
Not bad, but it looks too japanese, definitely not what i'm expecting.

SHEPO
05-18-2006, 12:53 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Reppu</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not bad, but it looks too japanese, definitely not what i'm expecting.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The taillights definitely scream Skyline. This car is HOT though!!!! Another great reason for Alfa Romeo to return to the U.S.!!!

nismo
05-18-2006, 04:33 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>polas</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><A HREF="http://arcy79.altervista.org/_ALTERVISTA_HT/149_post.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://arcy79.altervista.org/_...t.jpg</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0"> NICE... what cars would this go against in the US?

CosworthKid
05-18-2006, 05:51 PM
This car will look nothing like a Japanese car. Keeping in mind earlier sketches of the whole car + the 159, this will look more as if it was crafted rather than made on an assebly line. Only Japanese car that gave me that impression before is the current Toyota Avensis in both saloon and estate. So what if the rear lights resemble a Skyline? The whole shape of the car will definately scream Alfa!I cant wait

spikes111
05-21-2006, 06:59 AM
I personally can't wait for Alfa to return to the US. It's about time!

salebg
05-26-2006, 06:28 AM
<A HREF="http://pasquale1.wordpress.com/files/2006/05/149ant.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://pasquale1.wordpress.com...t.jpg</A>

the1
05-26-2006, 06:59 AM
<A HREF="http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/3460/149ant6zt.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img147.imageshack.us/im...t.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4356/garagemarchionne1756li.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img165.imageshack.us/im...i.jpg</A><p>Wow! It's gorgeous.

DrPetrus
05-26-2006, 11:24 AM
<A HREF="http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4356/garagemarchionne1756li.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img165.imageshack.us/im...i.jpg</A><br>Somebody is gonna be realy pissed if this picture is legit. If it is, are we looking at (apart from the AR 148) the new Fiat Bravo, Fiat 500 and the Lancia Delta?

Blob
05-26-2006, 11:52 AM
looks chopped to me

CosworthKid
05-26-2006, 03:17 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Blob</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">looks chopped to me</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yeah, they all look very very good (especially the Lancia, perfect) but i doubt all these still secret cars (minus the 500 which we know more or less) would be in the same shot,totally undisguised. The Alfa in particular looks like a CGI

Reppu
05-27-2006, 01:38 AM
The license plates have been chopped indeed, but somehow i still i think it might be legit. Why didn't they scan also the Bravo completely?????

the1
05-27-2006, 10:42 AM
If it's legit, it's a huge scoop. I think these are only cgis.<p><A HREF="http://www.alfaromeo.it/ALFAROMEO_ITALIA/uploads/1051/1073792219/20060511/Jtop_500.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.alfaromeo.it/ALFARO...0.jpg</A>

salebg
06-20-2006, 06:32 AM
<A HREF="http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/9646/img14824wd.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img82.imageshack.us/img...d.jpg</A>

salebg
06-20-2006, 10:20 AM
<A HREF="http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_400/car_photo_200228_5.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/i...5.jpg</A>

the1
06-20-2006, 12:59 PM
That's one hideous cgi.

Ascariss
06-21-2006, 02:45 PM
hideous or not here are some interesting shots<p><IMG SRC="http://www.autotematic.it/forum/upload/atc_149_1.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.autotematic.it/forum/upload/atc_149_2.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.autotematic.it/forum/upload/atc_149_3.jpg" BORDER="0"><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emdgust.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>

SV
06-21-2006, 02:53 PM
i dunno, i think it looks pretty good. though that could be because i've been drawing some SUVs that look fairly similar to that...back to the drawing board... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/sheep.gif" BORDER="0">

against the wall
06-21-2006, 03:04 PM
looks very 50's ish.

Ascariss
06-21-2006, 04:23 PM
ran into this on cardesignnews<p><A HREF="http://www.cardesignnews.com/portfolios/cdn_pf_page.php?portfolioID=3623&pageResults=search&keywordSearch=alfa&status=&country=&imageTotal=30&imageNum=2" TARGET="_blank">http://www.cardesignnews.com/p...Num=2</A><p>found the top view car.

knihc2008
06-21-2006, 04:27 PM
I'm sorry, but I love this car. (Uhhh, so far heheh) It really looks like nothing else out there and it's just plain modern and new-looking.

CosworthKid
06-21-2006, 05:03 PM
That image of the top view was posted here before. Dont remember seeing that rear shot though, very nice. So far all sketches and chops showed round tail lamps, this is different

LSS_C6
06-21-2006, 05:33 PM
Briglliant!!!!!! Looks absolutly gorgeous! Amazing! Probably the most beautifull car of it class!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/driver.gif" BORDER="0">

Reppu
06-21-2006, 11:25 PM
I expect the 147 proportions combined with the 8c shapes.

the1
06-22-2006, 02:12 AM
Retro and cool!

the1
06-22-2006, 02:54 AM
<A HREF="http://faimg1.forum-auto.com/mesimages/110905/fkfj.JPG" TARGET="_blank">http://faimg1.forum-auto.com/m...j.JPG</A><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by the1 at 3:36 AM 6/22/2006</i>

CosworthKid
06-22-2006, 03:12 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>the1</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><A HREF="http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/8025/yttutj1ej.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img205.imageshack.us/im...j.jpg</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/werd.gif" BORDER="0">

the1
06-22-2006, 03:38 AM
Oopss. I copied the wrong link. Fixed it.

CosworthKid
06-22-2006, 07:15 AM
Wow thanks for the pic mate!But what is it exactly?

TitanSteel
06-22-2006, 07:55 AM
It looks as cool as it looks polarizing.

drugmirko
06-22-2006, 01:54 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CosworthKid</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow thanks for the pic mate!But what is it exactly?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>could be 149, but it cluld be also something else... like that small coupe they talked about..... but I think it is 149<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by drugmirko at 1:59 PM 6/22/2006</i>

knihc2008
06-22-2006, 03:29 PM
Please bring Alfa in all it's glory to America. Probably the only car I'd trade my IS for right now... just because they're so damn beautiful.

Maxxxed
06-26-2006, 06:03 AM
from eurocarblog<br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The design of the Alfa Romeo 149 (expected in 2008) is being finalized in these days. Italian magazine Quattroruote has published a new computer-generated image, based on photos "escaped" from Arese. The heir to the 147 Hatchback will be based on the compact platform, the same as the next Fiat Bravo, which will be hardened up and for which a revised suspension scheme will be adopted, to make it more suitable for an Alfa Romeo.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>pic: <A HREF="http://img272.imageshack.us/img272/2812/149post9nr.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img272.imageshack.us/im...r.jpg</A>

Gian86
06-26-2006, 06:05 AM
I think that pic is new here (didn't check it much):<p><A HREF="http://img272.imageshack.us/img272/2812/149post9nr.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img272.imageshack.us/im...r.jpg</A><p>Source: Eurocarblog.com<p>It looks very sexy for Alfa (hopely)!!!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Gian86 at 12:12 AM 6/27/2006</i>

CosworthKid
06-26-2006, 07:54 AM
The pic was on the last post right above u man <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>It looks very good, it seems everyone is going for the circular rear lights except a sketch posted recently in here showing more normalised lights. Im hoping we will see something official or camoed soon. The 147 replacement is way overdue

Gian86
06-26-2006, 07:27 PM
Hehe, i was almost send it at the same time and i didn't know someone send it.

salebg
07-07-2006, 06:42 AM
<A HREF="http://img164.imageshack.us/img164/382/78425692sz2qm.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img164.imageshack.us/im...m.jpg</A>

salebg
07-07-2006, 09:33 AM
<A HREF="http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/4294/149n0yy.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/4294/149n0yy.jpg</A>

mzoltarp
07-07-2006, 09:57 AM
Let's hope that isn't in Alfa's plan to return to the USA. It tries to do a retro-into-modern style that is neither retro nor modern so it fails on both accounts. Alfa either needs to totally embrace retro or modern, but the slider is too much in the middle on this "balance" for it to look coherent. The Brera is a FAR BETTER look to replicate.

CosworthKid
07-07-2006, 12:40 PM
I dissagree with you. If there is one thing Alfa has been able to do in spades the last decade is beautifyl style. This 148 surely will not appeal to everyone but to those that it will they will absolutely love it. It is a far sexier and desirable small hatch than the BMW 1-series, Audi A3 and Mercedes A-Class, not to mention the VW Golf, Ford Focus etc. Only thing that will come close to it in style is perhaps the upcoming Volvo C30 but even that is pretty ordinary and normal/organic looking with the exception of the kinky rear. As for the US, yes this would not be the car that Alfa would expect to "hit" that market but then again the 1-series wasnt for the NA market either. The Breara, Spyder and 159 are already in the firms line-up so i dont see why this model should be seen as a break or make car for Alfa's entry into the US. This car screams pure Italian and European styling, and it combines all the great elements that make new Alfa's so damn sexy and also takes some hints from its historic past. All in all this is a car that will be embraced with open arms in Europe by the purists as long as it also succeeds mechancaly and its engines pack a punch. Alfa designs Italian cars and not every car it makes should be designed according to NA or Chinese or whatever other markets. Like i said before, the Brera,Spyder,159 and more importantly the upcoming Kamal SUV will be its weapons for the NA market, not the 148

mzoltarp
07-08-2006, 07:08 AM
The problem is this: if the 148 and it's Edsel-like nose are signs of the direction Alfa Romeo will be taking, their return to the USA will not go well. I dislike it because the proportions are all off.

CosworthKid
07-09-2006, 11:13 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mzoltarp</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The problem is this: if the 148 and it's Edsel-like nose are signs of the direction Alfa Romeo will be taking, their return to the USA will not go well. I dislike it because the proportions are all off.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>And again, i dissagree, proportions will not be off IMO. As for first comment, Alfa's new face is that of the 159 and Brerra/Spyder. The reasons why the 149 seems to look so dramaticaly different is not clear to me. But indications show that it will be a one off, or at least its a design direction not intended for all models. All the other Alfas share a different design and they all came out within the past few months. Only Kamal concept seems to reflect the 149's styling up-front and that,IMO again, looked great on that SUV and it was by far the sleekest and sexiest SUV i ever saw. Point being, the 149(or 148) will probably be a car that its styling will be different to that of most Alfa's. And i repeat, its not intended for NA markets.

Roadster44
07-09-2006, 04:58 PM
Well I don't think purpose of this car is to be a volume model, but develop a small, but loyal customer base. These are the customers who know Alfa, and want one. Thus the risk taken on styling is welcomed.

salebg
07-13-2006, 07:32 AM
<A HREF="http://www.abbonationline.it/media/cover_gentemotori.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.abbonationline.it/m...i.jpg</A>

salebg
07-21-2006, 08:22 AM
<A HREF="http://www.automobile-magazine.fr/images/boutique/couv/am723p2.gif" TARGET="_blank">http://www.automobile-magazine...2.gif</A>

CosworthKid
07-21-2006, 10:17 AM
<IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0">

Ascariss
07-21-2006, 10:41 AM
Good impression of it, pity we won't get this in NA anytime soon. I think it's a schulte chop so it should be on one of his sites with his impressions.

the1
07-21-2006, 01:40 PM
That looks more like a chop of the current generation.

Ascariss
07-21-2006, 04:37 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>the1</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That looks more like a chop of the current generation. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>no, it's a chop of the 159.

the1
07-22-2006, 02:18 AM
Crossed with the old 147. Well, anyway, this cgi is not so reliable.

Ascariss
07-22-2006, 11:29 AM
not so sure:<p><IMG SRC="http://www.autotematic.it/forum/upload/atc_149_1.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.autotematic.it/forum/upload/atc_149_2.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.autotematic.it/forum/upload/atc_149_3.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>

IFa
07-22-2006, 12:44 PM
That is just so hot! both this and the volvo c30 are my favourite in the premium hatch segment..is there an article accompanying the shots?

CosworthKid
07-22-2006, 07:53 PM
Wow that is brilliant!!! I cant wait for the official photos, it looks fantastic so far. The whole surfacing reminds more of a sculpture like how sports cars used to look in the 40's and 50's. It makes a far more convincing sports-hatch to me than the new Civic. Honestly im truly excited about this. Alfa bring it on!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bowdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bowdown.gif" BORDER="0">

Gian86
07-23-2006, 04:42 AM
No Way, this will look very classic for Alfa. Looking forward to this soon.

MGS06
07-23-2006, 06:46 AM
Wow, this looks Hot. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>Whats going to happen though when its time to replace the 148, 159 etc etc... will it go up to 149, 160 etc? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> Or are they going to change it all around? And if keeping up with the current 159, why isnt this the 149... isnt it new enough?

CosworthKid
07-23-2006, 10:06 AM
This will be named 149. Most ppl in the industry reffer to it as the 149 and, like u said, it makes more sense given we already have the 159. The thread's name is a bit old i reckon, thats all

salebg
07-25-2006, 05:49 AM
<A HREF="http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5661/alfa149ob6.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img145.imageshack.us/im...6.jpg</A>

carmaniac
08-01-2006, 11:40 AM
<A HREF="http://www.racewaynews.net/articolo.php?a_id=859" TARGET="_blank">http://www.racewaynews.net/articolo.php?a_id=859</A><p>looks good to me!

CosworthKid
08-01-2006, 12:20 PM
Pics where already posted in here before, in seperate posts. Yeah, it looks great

the1
08-01-2006, 12:35 PM
It looks good. I don't thing it's that great or incredible. A bit too retro.

Max Power
08-11-2006, 12:38 PM
Very classic looking front. The back has four tail lights, it is a bit Ferrari style or something.

salebg
08-26-2006, 07:07 AM
<A HREF="http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/5622/1491sa1.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img151.imageshack.us/im...1.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/5622/1491sa1.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img151.imageshack.us/im...1.jpg</A><br>

mick78
08-26-2006, 08:15 AM
A159 chop merged with a 8C frontend - but yes, i think we're getting an idea what it will look llike...

CosworthKid
08-26-2006, 08:22 AM
The 8C and the Iosis seem to hold the record for most chops based on em! This looks great like most recent chops, love the wheels as well

salebg
08-26-2006, 08:27 AM
<A HREF="http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/3412/1492cy7.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img151.imageshack.us/im...7.jpg</A>

mick78
08-26-2006, 08:30 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CosworthKid</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The 8C and the Iosis seem to hold the record for most chops based on em! This looks great like most recent chops, love the wheels as well</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Exactly, we could also name the VW Eos (concept) - i've seen basically every VW (Polo, GOlf VI, Passat, Passat Coupe, TIguan, Scirocco) based on it.<p>Chop away, I'm pretty sure the 148/9 will look great, though hopefully a bit more lightweight than their 159/Brera - man, those cars are heavy, killing much of their engine's dynamics....

salebg
08-28-2006, 05:38 AM
<A HREF="http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/8643/alfa149vv8.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img181.imageshack.us/im...8.jpg</A>

CosworthKid
08-28-2006, 08:13 AM
Just how many times do we have to see the same chops? Is it official already or what?? It says World Exclusive but thats as far as my poor Italian can get me..anyone can tell us more?<p>ps: 2009????????????Thats TOO long

salebg
08-30-2006, 05:28 AM
<A HREF="http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/8396/149aj2.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/8396/149aj2.jpg</A>

CosworthKid
08-30-2006, 05:31 AM
Ok this is getting too much..Plz when a proper spy pic or official pic of the 149 surfaces send me an IM. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/all_coholic.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>btw i have that 159 shot as a wallpaper <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0">

LSS_C6
08-30-2006, 10:03 AM
this car is going to be the best ever!

the1
08-31-2006, 12:58 AM
The best ever?

salebg
09-05-2006, 07:08 AM
<A HREF="http://www.alfaromeo.it/ALFAROMEO_ITALIA/uploads/1051/1073792171/20041123/stile_b.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.alfaromeo.it/ALFARO...b.jpg</A>

jamestrim
09-05-2006, 09:46 AM
In my honest oppinion, I really don't like it. I'm suprised at the positive response, so hats off to Alfa Romeo. But I just think its too bubbly. I thought Alfa were heading in the 'Brera styling' direction, which I think would have been more successful on the new 148.

Mil
09-05-2006, 09:56 AM
I dont really like it either, mainly the front though. It looks like a person who's eyes are too far apart... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0">

CosworthKid
09-05-2006, 12:32 PM
Those sketches look more like the 8C than the 148. I went through AutoExpress today and it had actual photos of what seemed like a production ready 8C! They are guessing it was from a photoshoot and that the car will be unveiled in Paris and production will start soon after

the1
09-09-2006, 04:50 AM
After the launch of the drop dead gorgeous Brera/159 models I was expecting something truly sexy and emotional. The spy pics and all the cgis don't look too promising. The new 149 looks a bit too generic, mixing retro elements from old Alfas or even the 147 with a bland general shape.

CosworthKid
09-09-2006, 11:14 AM
Perhaps but personaly i love it to bits...i find it to be realy sexy and sporty and cant wait to see it in black or pearl white. Id take this anyday over the futuristic yet fussy and over-the-top Civic (IMHO always). I just hope quality is also improved cause lately i am as drawn to great interior design and quality as i am to exterior styling and dynamics

mick78
09-09-2006, 03:50 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CosworthKid</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Perhaps but personaly i love it to bits...i find it to be realy sexy and sporty and cant wait to see it in black or pearl white. Id take this anyday over the futuristic yet fussy and over-the-top Civic (IMHO always). I just hope quality is also improved cause lately i am as drawn to great interior design and quality as i am to exterior styling and dynamics</TD></TR></TABLE><p>This week i was driving an Alfa 159 for couple of days, and though first cars earned a lot of critics, that was without a fault in terms of quality, though not brand new anymore - materials excelent, no noises, no rattling or anything - i was really surprised. Left me with a lot of hope for new Alfa/Fiat (& Lancia of course) products...

the1
09-09-2006, 04:25 PM
The 159/Brera are very well made, at least this is the initial impression they are leaving. I drove a Brera last week and the entire car seems very solid and reliable.

salebg
09-13-2006, 07:07 AM
<A HREF="http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/4711/internihz0.png" TARGET="_blank">http://img220.imageshack.us/im...0.png</A>

CosworthKid
09-13-2006, 07:32 AM
No source, no comment, nothing..?

the1
09-13-2006, 07:40 AM
What's that supposed to be?

salebg
09-13-2006, 08:06 AM
<A HREF="http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/120/art174363149201od8.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img216.imageshack.us/im...8.jpg</A>

the1
09-13-2006, 08:15 AM
Nice, it seems to be a cgi derived from the older clay model spy pics.

spwolf
09-13-2006, 09:02 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>the1</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The 159/Brera are very well made, at least this is the initial impression they are leaving. I drove a Brera last week and the entire car seems very solid and reliable.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>i dont like the big fiat buttons and centre stack in new Alfa's... it just doesnt look luxurious to me...

mick78
09-13-2006, 10:44 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>spwolf</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont like the big fiat buttons and centre stack in new Alfa's... it just doesnt look luxurious to me...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Actually FIAT and Alfa don't share parts in the interior. The centre stack of course is up to taste.

the1
09-13-2006, 02:35 PM
Indeed, there are no Fiat parts in the interiors of the latest Alfas. Anyway, the new 159 and Brera have some incredibly well finished interior, maybe better than those of some German competitors.

spwolf
09-13-2006, 03:47 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mick78</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Actually FIAT and Alfa don't share parts in the interior. The centre stack of course is up to taste.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>they dont share them, but they certainly look like Fiat buttons... very industrial and nothing like Alfa.<p>By far the most forgetable part of recent Alfa interiors.

Reppu
09-14-2006, 05:52 AM
Is this design confirmed then?. I've made a quick chop of that last pic, deleting the inner lights and leaving only the external bigger ones. It looks soooo much better that way.

mick78
09-14-2006, 07:33 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>spwolf</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">they dont share them, but they certainly look like Fiat buttons... very industrial and nothing like Alfa.<p>By far the most forgetable part of recent Alfa interiors.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Sorry, but have you actually sat in both Fiat AND Alfa? The buttons and switches, even steering colum stalks are different, in design AND material - not like many other brands. <p>Of course they're industrial, we're talking about mass production cars, what are you expecting? Even Audi, BMW & Merc have black plastic buttons....

the1
09-14-2006, 08:00 AM
And as I already said, they are not inferior in quality to the buttons used in any German premium competitors.

CosworthKid
09-14-2006, 12:26 PM
...plus Alfa's have a unique interior, i guess just like with modern BMW's, they are not to all tastes and they emphasise more towards understated sportiness than up-market limo-ish feel

Ace of Spades
09-14-2006, 12:35 PM
Alfa is improving year after year, altough I don't like a lot its latest models' interiors, 159 & Brera look more quality than 156, 147 & GT, but somewhat less nicer and sporty. But it's only my point of view, and even I haven't been inside any of them, so my mind could change radically... nobody knows.

the1
09-14-2006, 01:03 PM
<A HREF="http://www.infomotori.com/foto/N/art_17436_3_149_03.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.infomotori.com/foto...3.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.infomotori.com/foto/N/art_17436_3_149_01.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.infomotori.com/foto...1.jpg</A><p>The interior looks like a chop of the 8c Competizione's dashboard.

mick78
09-14-2006, 02:09 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>the1</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><A HREF="http://www.infomotori.com/foto/N/art_17436_3_149_03.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.infomotori.com/foto...3.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.infomotori.com/foto/N/art_17436_3_149_01.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.infomotori.com/foto...1.jpg</A><p>The interior looks like a chop of the 8c Competizione's dashboard.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yep, italian magazines always make chops of the interior (so does Quattroroute e.g.) - hopefully, the Navi screen won#t be positioned as low as in the chop - i mean the chop looks great, but ergonomics would be horrible...<p>The body itself is 8C chop number ??? - i guess we know now the basic theme (8C), i'm really looking forward now for the first full spy shot or even the real thing....<p>

the1
09-16-2006, 10:55 AM
I'm still hoping it won't look like a 5door 8C. 8C is fabulous, but it doesn't to blend to well with the theme of a small hatch.

the1
01-03-2007, 12:47 PM
<A HREF="http://images12.fotosik.pl/3/f3281a58f4fd9f13.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://images12.fotosik.pl/3/f3281a58f4fd9f13.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://images12.fotosik.pl/3/d8ed567fd542c809.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://images12.fotosik.pl/3/d8ed567fd542c809.jpg</A><br>autoscoops.be

Roadster44
01-03-2007, 12:57 PM
This thing does "not" look like MG Rover in front.

the1
01-03-2007, 02:38 PM
The chops seem to become more and more ugly. I hope the production will have nothing in common with these cgis.

CosworthKid
01-03-2007, 03:11 PM
Those chops where posted months ago, it just seems that this mag retouched them and used better graphics but its still the same, and it contradicts greatly to everyone elses sketches and CGs so i wouldnt really worry about these being the real deal <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0">

the1
01-03-2007, 03:17 PM
They're clearly not the real deal. It's just that none of the cgis, not only these 2, are particularly damn sexy. And I expect smth extremely hot as a replacement for the 147.

salebg
03-29-2007, 06:48 AM
<A HREF="http://www.autozeitung.de/online/bildDB/42787_450.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autozeitung.de/onli...0.jpg</A>

the1
03-29-2007, 08:19 AM
It should have the brilliant looking super agressive 159 nose, not this bug-eye face.

CosworthKid
03-29-2007, 08:22 AM
159 nose is over used: 159, Brerra, Spyder and probably Junior as well. Id preffer this one to be different, of course not ugly either

street_dreamer
03-30-2007, 04:09 PM
I quite like the look of that CG, especially considering what CossieKid said about the 159 nose being over-used. I do, however, love the nose of the other cars, but i also like the look of the chop. I'm more eager to see the junior/racer though as it can do wonders for Alfa Romeo if they pull it off well :) (good to look at and drive with a relatively low price.<p>There is no doubting that the Alfa will look nice, as all Alfas are, and i can't really wait for this car either.

Ascariss
03-30-2007, 05:10 PM
lol all we see are CGs. nothing more nothing less. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0">

wildeye
04-13-2007, 11:38 AM
New Alfa Romeo 149 from German "AutoBild SportsCars".<p><A HREF="http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2656/149id8.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/2656/149id8.jpg</A>

street_dreamer
04-15-2007, 03:11 PM
Well, on the Italiaspeed website, i found this (horrifically small) spy picture.<p><IMG SRC="http://www.italiaspeed.com/newsite/futuremodels/alfa_149.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p>Unfortunately we can't tell enough from this picture, but we can tell that (if this is a real picture, which it looks like, despite me never having seen it before) this will definitely have the big round headlights, similar to the 8C. <p>Looks like it'll be a nice car, just wish i had a bigger picture, or preferably a pic of the whole car! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by street_dreamer at 4:09 PM 4/15/2007</i>

hilton
04-15-2007, 03:31 PM
the autobild CGI looks great but the silver spypics is much worse although i have my doubts about its real-ness

Ascariss
04-15-2007, 05:56 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>street_dreamer</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, on the Italiaspeed website, i found this (horrifically small) spy picture.<p><IMG SRC="http://www.italiaspeed.com/newsite/futuremodels/alfa_149.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p>Unfortunately we can't tell enough from this picture, but we can tell that (if this is a real picture, which it looks like, despite me never having seen it before) this will definitely have the big round headlights, similar to the 8C. <p>Looks like it'll be a nice car, just wish i had a bigger picture, or preferably a pic of the whole car! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><br><i>Modified by street_dreamer at 4:09 PM 4/15/2007</i></TD></TR></TABLE><p>if you look through the rest of this thread, you will see that was posted here already along with other angles of that same car.

street_dreamer
04-16-2007, 03:21 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Ascariss</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>if you look through the rest of this thread, you will see that was posted here already along with other angles of that same car.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Sorry... I didn't remember seeing it...

Ignorance
06-07-2007, 12:33 PM
i think this project was put on hold for some time when alfa had a few manager/designer changes<p>but... this is pretty accurate of what the car WAS (still is? <p><IMG SRC="http://groups.msn.com/isapi/fetch.dll?action=MyPhotos_GetPubPhoto&PhotoID=nHwCrDoUJk4HFvlc5OzfOb9as0kw!LRVwXyDKAwJsN uP7O1wRhed70foseZbuGvKm" BORDER="0"><p>these are sketches made by someone who saw the car:<p> <IMG SRC="http://groups.msn.com/isapi/fetch.dll?action=MyPhotos_GetPubPhoto&PhotoID=nHwBoDicKy5C7Vc2UQrPbGBEZzSjYipRjc5uRENz9A DtiKEekiYkrsqS5Qnvc4clp" BORDER="0"><p> <IMG SRC="http://groups.msn.com/isapi/fetch.dll?action=MyPhotos_GetPubPhoto&PhotoID=nHwBoDhcKqY*ragJNqDAHmhfuh7pm2KN8KZF0wcEEt 27U8y!b8HsfuhVFfNKtFmIF" BORDER="0">

antman
06-07-2007, 04:23 PM
They'll have to check people can't draw so well, before they let them see it in future LOL

CosworthKid
06-10-2007, 02:03 AM
Why do those sketches have hidden rear door handles? I thought Alfa ditched that design gimmick not just on the 159 but on the all the future models..?

Smart22186
06-10-2007, 05:44 AM
Didnt they ditch it cause they decided the 159 was too big-a-car to pretend to hold a coupe like style?? think they wanted to bring the 159 more into its class by making it more like its class competitors. so i think they'll keep it on smaller cars, especially if you look at that side profile and think honda civic! (also seat leon has it) now im sure they will keep it (if not only for the reason of "this was our idea first")

the1
06-10-2007, 06:53 AM
They've only ditched them on the 159.

Horizon
06-10-2007, 01:31 PM
if it will look like the above sketches,it'd be a shame to lose the more upright stance the 147 currently have,a it makes it look sportier imo.

Regazzoni
06-10-2007, 03:56 PM
The sketch above is almost 6 months old and was just a copycat of two early spy pics of Bravo with elements of other interpretations sitcked on.<br>It's a very "amatorial" work.<br><IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

hilton
06-10-2007, 05:17 PM
it does have some very strong links the bravo in itn eg the side profile

CosworthKid
06-11-2007, 12:45 PM
Bravo even has visual links to the 147 anyways, so what? And isnt the 149 going to be using the same platform?

the1
06-28-2007, 05:27 AM
<IMG SRC="http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/4418/940a1fh1.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/9807/940b1bo7.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br>autopareri

the1
06-28-2007, 05:41 AM
It seems that these pics are from a pdf posted on Fiat Auto press. Interesting... first official sketches?

Sybrain
06-28-2007, 06:31 AM
<IMG SRC="http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/6012/alfaromeo2007page08uc9.jpg" BORDER="0">

mzoltarp
06-28-2007, 06:32 AM
Style challenged says it best.

CosworthKid
06-28-2007, 09:42 AM
That looks like yet another facelift of the current 147, just badly done. Its crap. im expecting far greater things from Alfa

DrPetrus
06-28-2007, 02:51 PM
"Price positioning: From 28 000 Euro." <br><IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/eek3.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>FROM 28K. For a base-model C-segment car? A C-segment car from Alfa Romeo? I must have misread.<p>

drugmirko
06-29-2007, 12:22 AM
and I'd really like to know how much of it is made from titanium and other precious metals, to justify that <B>fat, 12k euro price difference</B> towards Junior coupe.... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

Sybrain
07-01-2007, 04:38 AM
Ive heard that the price is a mistake(and probably for the x-over) cause €28k is too much for an entry level car i think.

Ignorance
07-27-2007, 04:38 AM
would make more sense from 18k!<p>even if this is going to be more expensive than you think. the junior is the cheaper one

Nath
08-01-2007, 06:23 AM
People are complaining bout the looks but I remember the speculative sketches of the 156 and the chops of the 147 both looking ugly as sin.<br>Both were about 95% correct too, just very minor mistakes in proportions throw the whole design

Ascariss
01-22-2008, 08:00 AM
Winter testing in sweden

http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080121.009/new-alfa-149-spied-winter-testing

heating/cooling mule for now.

Quattro
01-22-2008, 09:20 AM
wow i seriosly thought the 148 was dead. like its been so long

Horizon
01-26-2008, 08:19 PM
A (somehow badly executed) chop from italian mag "Quattroruote", just check the wobbly front wheel arches.
Hope this is not it.
it's not atrocious looking but it reminds me of the fragile-looking Alfas of yesteryear.

http://img107.imageshack.us/img107/8118/scansione0007bb9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/3958/scansione0008yd2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

lupedelupe
01-27-2008, 04:50 PM
please, please...

I sincerely hope that they don't go down the ah-that-works-so-let's-paste-it-one-every-other-car road again. Sticking the Brera nose on the facelifted 147 didn't work. Let the 8C be, don't distribute it parts to other cars. Please don't.

PRODIGY
01-27-2008, 04:54 PM
Although that chop is badly executed, It looks like it's pretty much spot on from those official sketches we saw not so long back.

So Lupedelupe, looks like you're gonna be disapointed! Personally, I think the 'Brera' look works better on the bread and butter models.. they should reserve the '8c' look for the sports cars.

Ignorance
02-03-2008, 01:07 PM
they've been testing this car under a Bravo uniform... stay tuned!

CosworthKid
04-07-2008, 11:44 AM
New spy shots finally!
http://www.autoweek.nl/nieuws.php?id=8655

btw: moderators should change the name to "149"

Horizon
05-30-2008, 07:40 PM
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/7834/image4cs8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img102.imageshack.us/img102/8104/image1wl0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/6706/image5jk2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/8646/image3ix4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/2475/image2ce5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

CosworthKid
05-30-2008, 09:58 PM
I absolutely LOVE these illustrations but they don't seem official to me..? Are these done by people outside Alfa Rome?

Horizon
05-31-2008, 08:52 AM
I like them too,especially the back.
I'd almost buy the car just for those funky tail lights.
They're not official but who knows if the chop owner had insider infos.

CosworthKid
10-18-2008, 01:18 AM
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_575/car_photo_287928_25.jpg
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_575/car_photo_287931_25.jpg
Feast your eyes on Alfa's brand new hatch! This is how the sensational 149 - a direct rival to Ford's Focus - is shaping up.
Based on the same platform as the Fiat Bravo and Lancia Delta, the replacement for the 147 will blend the raw beauty of the 8C Competizione with the style of the MiTo in a larger, family-sized package. The front end's generous curves and circular headlamps take their inspiration from the MiTo, while the sharp, arrow-like nose and deep Alfa shield grille are borrowed from the 8C Competizione.
At the back the 149 is clearly its own car, however. Although the MiTo has a delicate, squat rear, the 149 features a much sportier stance. A steeply raked tail similar to Audi's A3, plus the addition of a small spoiler, twin exhausts and circular LED tail-lamps, give the hatch a persona all of its own.
The new Alfa will have the performance to match its good looks, too. Power is expected to come from 1.4-litre petrol turbo and 1.9 diesel units ranging from 120bhp to 250bhp. Hot versions will get the Q2 diff to maximise traction.
Available in both three and five-door bodystyles, the new Alfa is due to go on sale in the middle of next year, with prices starting at around 16,500.



http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/229656/alfas_beautiful_little_number.html

swizzle
10-18-2008, 01:23 AM
Hmm. I used to be bullish on Alfa returning to NA, but if everything is going to have the Edsel face then I'm not as thrilled/ This would be a 10/10 with a Brera nose, but it's a 6/10 as is. Minus the nose the car is perfect.

Steve Neill
10-18-2008, 01:36 AM
Hmm. I used to be bullish on Alfa returning to NA, but if everything is going to have the Edsel face then I'm not as thrilled/ This would be a 10/10 with a Brera nose, but it's a 6/10 as is. Minus the nose the car is perfect.

The Brera nose should be the official Alfa nose. With it's sinister eyebrows, and it's evil looking face, it's really menacing for such a small car.

Ascariss
10-18-2008, 01:47 AM
I seriously hope the new 148 is not going to be a mito copy, and aren't all new alfas going to ditch the number naming scheme?

spwolfx
10-18-2008, 02:16 AM
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_575/car_photo_287928_25.jpg
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_575/car_photo_287931_25.jpg


http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/229656/alfas_beautiful_little_number.html
thats one of the best looking cars i have ever seen. Looks freaking awesome.

Here is hope that Alfa will do everything else right, especially packaging and reliability.

CosworthKid
10-18-2008, 12:24 PM
I love it as well, i don't agree with the Brera nose making it on every model, we don't need an Italian Audi. On the other hand it does look similar to the MiTo from the front yet it does not look cartoony here and over all its just great IMO. Only thing i am not so keen on are the tail lights. Let's wait and see, this is just an AE chop.

Ascariss i am not sure if Alfa will be using proper names for all their models. There was a rumor about the next 159 being given a name but nothing confirmed as far as i know

TheophilusChin
10-19-2008, 05:44 AM
Interesting impression, but a chop nevertheless... The water reflection shows opposite positioning of wheels in the 3/4 front pic, second pic shows way too far and small front left wheels, and both front and rear door handles are copies, including key holes.

moostang104314
10-19-2008, 07:02 PM
I love it as well, i don't agree with the Brera nose making it on every model, we don't need an Italian Audi. On the other hand it does look similar to the MiTo from the front yet it does not look cartoony here and over all its just great IMO. Only thing i am not so keen on are the tail lights. Let's wait and see, this is just an AE chop.

Ascariss i am not sure if Alfa will be using proper names for all their models. There was a rumor about the next 159 being given a name but nothing confirmed as far as i know

The only problem is that Alfa is moving all of its models to be designed with noses like this, influenced by the 8C. While the 8C is gorgeous and the design seems to translate well onto other cars, it is giving them a softer more forgiving face. What made the Brera nose so great was that it was insanely aggressive in a time when most cars' front ends were getting round and blunt. So either way it'll be Audi syndrome for Alfa Romeo and given a choice between this front end and the Brera's front end I pick the Brera's. Just alter it for each model but don't lose that menacing face because apparently that's what people like in car designs.

CosworthKid
10-19-2008, 10:29 PM
I think you are making too much of this. They are not designing all of their new cars with the 8C front, it was known from ages ago that the 149 will bare a similar front to the MiTo and 8C, with every single chop we have seen since the beginning pointing towards this direction. Yet the chops of the 159 succesor + a strange car appearing to be a prototype or concept to the 169 seem to follow an evolution of the current 159/Brerra theme. Also, again if not mistaken, the next 149 is supposed to be a 5-door only with the smaller MiTo serving as the replacement of the current 3-door, hence the stronger visual links

tyter1
10-20-2008, 02:21 PM
in Italian car forums it was said that:
- rear handles will be hidden like in 147
- the front style should be less 8c-like, but more Kamal (i.e. no round lights)
- 159/brera style will be - stupidly IMHO - abandoned or evolved in something quite different

CosworthKid
10-21-2008, 01:00 AM
I thought Alfa Romeo dumped the idea of hidden door handles with the 159, due to complaints from customers. None of its current models have read hidden handles.
The Kamal face is very similar to the last chops posted of the 149, that is if the Kamal stays true to the concept `(it has been YEARS since its appearance, what gives??)

scorpio14
10-21-2008, 09:58 PM
If it looks like this, the 148 could become my fav. 5door hatch in the market (currently the A3 Sportback is). Like with the MiTo i dont know if i'll be liking the front , if it ends up like this, i guess i'll have to see. I wonder if the 3-door version will have the same body as this or whether they will make it sleeker with a lower roofline.

CosworthKid
10-21-2008, 11:02 PM
I don't think a 3-door is planned, the MiTo will most likely take its place

mick78
10-22-2008, 09:03 AM
I don't think a 3-door is planned, the MiTo will most likely take its place

Yes, that's what most sources claim. But probably a more coupelike 3 door as an Alfa GT replacement would be a useable idea, still.
IMO alfa needs a smaller coupe and spider, Brera and Spider are too expensive, and heavy weight leading to big engines making them also expensive to run - the GT on the other hand is already quite aging, and a sporty brand like AR needs sthg. in this class. ANd from what I've read, the MiTo is not the best base to start a Coupe from

CosworthKid
10-22-2008, 12:51 PM
Spot on, i agree

tyter1
10-22-2008, 03:17 PM
I thought Alfa Romeo dumped the idea of hidden door handles with the 159, due to complaints from customers. None of its current models have read hidden handles.
The Kamal face is very similar to the last chops posted of the 149, that is if the Kamal stays true to the concept `(it has been YEARS since its appearance, what gives??)
156 hidden handles solution had some problems in the beginning, but it was soon solved
I had a 147 and no rear passenger complained
this solution should remain only on the small cars (i.e. 149 and crosswagon, but I read that this one has been rethinked as a 4.70m model. We'll see. In Fiat Group they change their mind so often...)
By the way, no 5 doors MiTo is sure, there should be a cabrio though
Fully agree on the need of a GT replacement, but apparently they are focusing on new larger coup and cabrio based on the new 159 (more sr 3coup/a5 like in term of size)

CosworthKid
10-22-2008, 04:40 PM
They also need to get the 169 out FAST, now with the likes of the Panamera, Estoque and Rapide they woud be fullish to wait for too long. It will serve as a greater image booster than the 8C and the MiTo IMHO

the1
10-22-2008, 09:11 PM
Hold your horses, Cossie. The 169 won't compete with Panamera or Rapide... even if it might be gorgeous and even use some Maserati-Ferrari parts from the group's bin. BTW, after all, will the new 169 use a Maserati platform or a Jaguar XF one?

CosworthKid
10-22-2008, 09:18 PM
Why would it use a Jaguar platform? Talk about "hold your horses" time!
Maserati belongs to the Fiat group just like Alfa, isn't it more logical to use the fine Maserati chassis?

Btw i did not mean that the 169 will compete directly with them. I mean now that all these cool 4-door super coupes will make an appearance on the streets it is a good time for Alfa to present the 169 which is also a 4-door coupe-type vehicle and will undoubtley be as gorgeous as the Maseratti Quattroporte and Aston Martin Rapide. Of course i know it will not appeal to the same demographic as those...yet

the1
10-22-2008, 09:34 PM
:) Peace. :)

Well, Fiat is in talks with Tata for using the Jag RWD platform for their future big sedans, though a Maserati derived architecture is not ruled out. Maserati and Alfa are now tied directly after FIAT separated Maserati from Ferrari.

CosworthKid
10-22-2008, 09:37 PM
:) Peace. :)
i.

Amen!:lol:

See i am confused over the Fiat Group. Isn't Ferrari part of it anymore?

Also how come they are tryiong to strike a deal with Tata over the Jag platform when they got Maserati?:confused:

the1
10-22-2008, 09:54 PM
Of course ferarri is still part of the Fiat group. They just decided not to use ferarri platforms and parts extensively for future maseratis, merging the development of future big Alfas with that of new Maseratis. ferrari will separate... sort of.

mick78
10-22-2008, 09:59 PM
Amen!:lol:

See i am confused over the Fiat Group. Isn't Ferrari part of it anymore?

Also how come they are tryiong to strike a deal with Tata over the Jag platform when they got Maserati?:confused:

Okay, Fiat is an italian company, so obviously more complicated than it has to be:) No, Ferraari, although owned by Fiat, doesn't belong to the Fiat group, they kind of can take their own decisions. Alfa, Lancia and now also Maserati however belong classically to Fiat s.p.a., so under direct control.

And why the Jag RWD platform? Well, the Maserati does use a lot of Ferrari components, which, toegether with being trans axle, doesn't exactly make it cheap to produce and sell. It is maybe a bit over engineered for the avarage Alfa Romeo. Now I#m not saying that Jaguar platforms are not sophisticated or even cheap, just a bit more conventional, not super car derived and tehrefore surely less expensive, and maybe even more important, more reliable. (btw., don't even start to think about spare part prices for a Maserati vehicle...)
So, to me that does make a lot of sense, as TATA can use economies of scale with Jaguar (there is quite a gap between the indica and the XF Type, even the X-Type, so internal technology trasfer is rather unlikely) whilst Fiat can aquire without a horrible R&D budget a usuable base to start their RWD ALfas from....

CosworthKid
10-23-2008, 12:19 AM
Thank you both for the explanation, lol, yeah it does make a lot of sense now :) I guess the link with Jaguar cannot hurt Alfa Romeo one bit either ;)

tyter1
11-19-2008, 07:12 PM
sorry if the size is too big
moderators, please resize it (I don't know how to do it) or leave just the link

http://www.progetto940.it/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/149_posteriore.jpg

Ascariss
11-19-2008, 07:22 PM
size is fine

that is a poor mito chop, lol not only are the headlights angled wrong, so is the license plate. also the C pillar seems a bit thin, I'd imagine it would be thicker so as to offer more interior room in the back and trunk.

tyter1
11-19-2008, 07:53 PM
you're right, a poor chop, but made out of a good basis... ;)
it seems the new Alfa game is: resize the different parts to get a sneak view of the next Alfa !

CosworthKid
11-19-2008, 10:17 PM
Good basis or not this is exactly the same as 99% of chops floating around the internet..yet again. I would love it to have the 159's muscular stance though