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Charger
04-13-2005, 07:42 PM
I know we had a thread on this but I cant find it in the search. Unless it was on the old forum. Anywho<br> <IMG SRC="http://media.popularmechanics.com/images/caddycts-400.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://media.popularmechanics.com/images/cadillac_cts.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br>source: PM<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looking Bolder But Familiar<br>In our January issue, we caught a glimpse of the rear end of Cadillac's entry model for 2007, the CTS. Now we get to see its nose. While there is no doubt that this is the CTS, the egg-crate grille has wider spacing between bars to convey the idea of less refinement, and more substance. Headlights not only wrap up into the fenders, but sweep around to the sides for a more massive look. That macho stance is complemented by the seriously flared fenders. From this angle, the CTS, with its very short rear deck, almost looks more like a hatchback than a sedan. That rocker panel appliqu is new to the CTS as well.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>source: PM<br>

FordRules
04-13-2005, 10:01 PM
looks like a BLS (baby luxury sedan) in europe

FordRules
04-13-2005, 10:02 PM
does the cts even need a refresh GM FOCUS ON TRUCKS NOT CARS WHICH ARE A YEAR OLD!!!

PlatForm
04-13-2005, 11:07 PM
this is nice.. the car look very fresh and stylish.. hope is true the rumour that Cadillac will enter malaysia market once again..

The Water Is Poison
04-14-2005, 04:30 AM
First off, Ford_gt_rules, you dont need to make two posts for things a minute apart, just edit your posts, secondly<br>the CTS came out in 2002, I believe, so by 2007 MY, it will be in its 5th year which is the normal rate at which a redesign occurs for most companies.

mzoltarp
04-14-2005, 05:05 AM
The generated picture looks exaggerated to me but the direction of its style looks good. Cadillac use use the "V" grille (i.e. CTS-V) as its standard look.

Santeno
04-14-2005, 08:02 AM
So Cadillac is dropping the CTS version of the eggcrate grill (which was quite attractive), to back to the old "Jail-Bar" design? They did it on the DTS. Kind of a step Backward IMHO.

Dodger
04-14-2005, 08:10 AM
I think the current grille looks better also. I hope they get rid of the cheap looking air vents on the interior and the rather plain center stack.

erzhik
04-14-2005, 09:35 AM
Looks like a current CTS

Bass-o-Matic
04-14-2005, 12:12 PM
Looks a little more refined and cohesive than the current CTS but definitely a continuation of a theme (not a bad thing for a brand trying to cement a unique position rather than continue to try to re-invent itself, IMO)<p>Look at how short that rear deck is--- it's just an illustration but, still, that's really significant, allowing for a faster backlight and sleeker silhouette. Is this a 5-door?<p>

VexedandGlorious
04-14-2005, 12:28 PM
id rather see a real spy pic than this chop

Superfresa
04-14-2005, 01:51 PM
It looks out of perspective and out of proportion. Not a very good chop.

StevenZoz
10-20-2005, 07:24 PM
<A HREF="http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/3936/cts0bc.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img480.imageshack.us/img480/3936/cts0bc.jpg</A>

M0L0TOV
10-20-2005, 07:32 PM
Since when have the renderings done by PM been accurate? Ford, BLS stands for B segment luxury sedan. I think it's better that GM focus on cars not trucks. With the way fuel prices are going, I think focusing on cars is the proper approach.<p>M0L0TOV

against the wall
10-20-2005, 07:39 PM
stevenzoz, thats a chop by jblair.

StevenZoz
10-20-2005, 07:46 PM
ha.. wow... some ppl take CSS chops too seriously

FordRules
10-20-2005, 09:10 PM
Man look at my posts along time ago.Sorry i was so rude and obnoctious!

Naga Royal Guard
10-20-2005, 09:48 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>FordRules</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Man look at my posts along time ago.Sorry i was so rude and obnoctious!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>your ultimate apology will be the exercise of intelligence and restraint in your further posts

Velocitas
10-22-2005, 08:54 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Naga Royal Guard</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>your ultimate apology will be the exercise of intelligence and restraint in your further posts</TD></TR></TABLE><p><IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0"> This should be posted regularly on every Internet message forum. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bowdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>

StevenZoz
02-16-2006, 05:25 PM
<A HREF="http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=109332" TARGET="_blank">http://www.edmunds.com/insidel...09332</A>

SV
02-16-2006, 05:31 PM
well, hopefully the CTS is still getting a complete redo in 2008 or so. it's a good car, but for GM's sake i hope they give it a lifespan comparable to lexus or (at something of a stretch) BMW.

against the wall
02-16-2006, 05:51 PM
i dont think its what edmunds says. i think its a very well done up mule to make it look like what edmunds thinks but it is really a mule for the forthcoming 07/08 cts.

Chris_Doane
02-16-2006, 06:55 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>yanksrule26</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont think its what edmunds says. i think its a very well done up mule to make it look like what edmunds thinks but it is really a mule for the forthcoming 07/08 cts.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>That is a possibility. It would seem odd that GM would be spending money on the CTSv when a whole new CTS is coming in the next year.

Fabia SDI Elegance
02-23-2006, 01:17 PM
<A HREF="http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/images/Cadillac_cts_new.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/i...w.jpg</A>

Chris_Doane
02-23-2006, 01:38 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Fabia SDI Elegance</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><A HREF="http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/images/Cadillac_cts_new.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/i...w.jpg</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p>That's a pretty old photo chop actually. I forget which mag that came from. Motor Trend or Pop Mech I think.

against the wall
02-23-2006, 01:53 PM
i thought the chop came from r+t

Chris_Doane
02-23-2006, 04:16 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>yanksrule26</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i thought the chop came from r+t</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Could have. I dont really remember.

Roadster44
02-23-2006, 08:03 PM
That chop was for STS a while back ago if I recall correctly.

DSC-OFF
03-11-2006, 05:54 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">An even meaner Cadillac CTS-V is roaming the streets in prototype form. It has larger rear fenders and "possibly" the <B>same engine as the Z06</B>. Yes, folks a <B>505-hp </B>Cadillac CTS! It looked production ready but <B>will probably not see the light of day until the next-gen CTS arrives</B>.</TD></TR></TABLE><p><A HREF="http://www.mph-online.com/mag/rumors/006" TARGET="_blank">MPH</A><br> <br>

mzoltarp
03-11-2006, 08:01 AM
A 505 hp CTSV will sell like mad. The Germans do hot rods so why not the Americans who invented them in the first place. Cadillac is learning how to be American. The most compelling thing about the CTSV versus a BMW M5 is the CTSV's unmistakeable American rock-em-sock-em V8 sounds. It competes by being radically different.

Charger
03-28-2006, 06:37 AM
CTS Super V?<p><A HREF="http://cwimg.us.publicus.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?Site=CW&Date=20060328&Category=FREE&ArtNo=60327014&Ref=V2&Profile=1065&MaxW=490" TARGET="_blank">http://cwimg.us.publicus.com/a...W=490</A><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hough we'd hardly consider the Cadillac CTS V-Series ordinary, its clear this version is well beyond that performance CTS.<p>We last encountered the CTS Super V in testing at the Nrburgring (Spied: Super V!, May 31, 2004), but this onespotted recently by an alert spy shooterappears much closer to production-ready. Were told its the 2007 CTS Super V, and that it is powered by a 7.0-liter 505-hp LS7 V8 lifted directly from the Corvette Z06.<p>The Super V also features custom bodywork, huge rear tires, larger exhaust pipes and an engine sound unlike any other CTS.<p>With the new CTS slated for arrival as a 2008 model, speculation is that Cadillac will offer this exclusive model as a last hurrah for the exiting first-generation CTS.<p>If thats not powerful enough, wait for the next-generation CTS Super V, which is rumored to be equipped with the LS9 enginea supercharged 6.2-liter V8 with 600 hp. But youll be waiting at least until the 2010 or 2011 model year for that one. </TD></TR></TABLE><br>source: autoweek

Kemble
03-29-2006, 10:27 AM
Couple more...<br><A HREF="http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/gallery?Site=CW&Date=20060328&Category=PHOTOS02&ArtNo=603280802&Ref=PH&Profile=1024&Params=Itemnr=1" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoweek.com/apps/p...mnr=1</A><p><A HREF="http://cwimg.us.publicus.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?NewTbl=1&Avis=CW&Dato=20060328&Kategori=PHOTOS02&Lopenr=603280802&Ref=PH&Item=1&Logo=/g/autoweek_watermark.gif&Maxw=600" TARGET="_blank">http://cwimg.us.publicus.com/a...w=600</A> <br> <A HREF="http://cwimg.us.publicus.com/apps/pbcsi.dll/bilde?NewTbl=1&Avis=CW&Dato=20060328&Kategori=PHOTOS02&Lopenr=603280802&Ref=PH&Item=3&Logo=/g/autoweek_watermark.gif&Maxw=600" TARGET="_blank">http://cwimg.us.publicus.com/a...w=600</A> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Ascariss at 4:36 PM 3/29/2006</i>

DoMiNo
03-29-2006, 11:26 AM
Looks near production-ready. Which frankly saddens me, because those fender flares (while they serve a purpose, no doubt) are hideous and totally out of character for the CTS. "Art + Science + Pep Boys"

against the wall
03-29-2006, 03:14 PM
yea, on a car that has no curves whatsoever, those fenders look kinda add-on-ish.

knihc2008
03-29-2006, 03:17 PM
well, they are add-ons. they don't even match the cut lines of the bumpers.

against the wall
03-29-2006, 03:22 PM
and noticing the last pic, the wheels dont even fit in the fenders. which makes me think that my original theory is correct and that this is a mule for something else. anyone know what else the cts shares a platform with?

mzoltarp
03-29-2006, 03:42 PM
Looks muleish to me. I suspect new CTSV mechanicals and or possibly some Camaro/GTO stuff hiding as a CTS.

JBlair
03-29-2006, 03:48 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mzoltarp</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks muleish to me. I suspect new CTSV mechanicals and or possibly some Camaro/GTO stuff hiding as a CTS.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well, unless the next GTO has a 4 inch longer wheelbase, thats unlikely.

mzoltarp
03-30-2006, 05:42 AM
umm hello? The 4 inch wheelbase is not an issue. If it's a mechanical mule which early prototypes usually tend to be, it makes no diference the length of the wheelbase. So, yeah, it IS likely.

piokor
04-02-2006, 04:44 PM
Has this been shown yet?<p><A HREF="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a232/imghost79/caddy.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i12.photobucket.com/alb...y.jpg</A><p>I got it from the Car Board at the IGN Boards.

SHEPO
04-02-2006, 04:46 PM
HOLY SH!T!!! Is that the production Cadillac Sixteen, cuz it certainly ain't a CTS <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0">

piokor
04-02-2006, 04:52 PM
There was a special about GM's financial situation on 60 Minutes tonight and that picture is from that show. Is this supposed to be shown at NYIAS?

DoMiNo
04-02-2006, 05:03 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>piokor06</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Has this been shown yet?<p><A HREF="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a232/imghost79/caddy.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i12.photobucket.com/alb...y.jpg</A><p>I got it from the Car Board at the IGN Boards.</TD></TR></TABLE><p><I><B>WHAT</B></I> is THAT!??!?! <p>If that is, indeed, the new CTS, then sign. me. up. <br>

SV
04-02-2006, 05:18 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>piokor06</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Has this been shown yet?<p><A HREF="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a232/imghost79/caddy.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i12.photobucket.com/alb...y.jpg</A><p>I got it from the Car Board at the IGN Boards.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>OHMYGODWTF *dies then is reborn and dies again*<p>that is the most beautiful american car i have <I>ever </I>seen in my entire life!!!! i realllllllllyyyyy hope that's the new CTS, because if it is, the lexus IS should watch out...caddy may be about to steal the title of best-looking entry-level luxury sedan...<p>but then it could just be a concept, i wouldn't be in complete disbelief (i think it's about the right time now for the next CTS to be in its design freeze, but way to early for its unveilling)

DoMiNo
04-02-2006, 05:25 PM
Watch the video, too (60 minutes website). I can't grab a screenshot for some reason, but there's also a peek at the rear of a car (looks Sixteen-esque) and a <B>gorgeous</B> interior mock up!<p><br>Don't we have ANY GM insiders here?!

Charger
04-02-2006, 05:38 PM
<A HREF="http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4094&d=1144023433" TARGET="_blank">http://www.gminsidenews.com/fo...23433</A><br> <IMG SRC="http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a232/imghost79/caddy2.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br>source: 60 minutes<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Charger at 8:17 PM 4/2/2006</i>

DoMiNo
04-02-2006, 06:11 PM
For comparison, the Sixteen concept:<p><IMG SRC="http://www.netcarshow.com/cadillac/2003-sixteen_concept/800x600/wallpaper_07.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><I>source: NetCarShow</I>

JBlair
04-02-2006, 07:09 PM
The guys on GMI have confirmed its the CTS. It does look (BTW) like the chop I did a while back.

against the wall
04-02-2006, 07:21 PM
oh<br>my<br>God<br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0">

DoMiNo
04-02-2006, 08:10 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The guys on GMI have confirmed its the CTS. It does look (BTW) like the chop I did a while back. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Sweet Jesus.... when will it be shown?<p>And can anyone get a screenshot up of that interior on the video?

Comrade
04-02-2006, 08:12 PM
Front looks creative and cool, and the rear doesn't compare cuz it's featureless.

Charger
04-02-2006, 08:16 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>DoMiNo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sweet Jesus.... when will it be shown?<p>And can anyone get a screenshot up of that interior on the video?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Look at my post above. I posted a link cuz the pic wouldnt show up.

Gian86
04-02-2006, 08:32 PM
OMG!!!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0"> That headlamps and grille design looks pure modern cadillac which is amazing. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

DoMiNo
04-02-2006, 08:32 PM
Can't access it <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsad.gif" BORDER="0">

Charger
04-02-2006, 08:35 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>DoMiNo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can't access it <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsad.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Try this one<br><A HREF="http://forums.autoweek.com/servlet/JiveServlet/download/31-30489-692131-41750/Picture%201.png" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.autoweek.com/ser...1.png</A>

Banker
04-02-2006, 08:37 PM
Unbelievable. This will be the car that solidifies Cadillac's comeback as the standard of the world. It has been confirmed that this is the next CTS... imagine if this is what Lutz does to the cheapest car in Cadillac's lineup - what will the next STS look like?<p>GM/Cadillac has been reborn.

DoMiNo
04-02-2006, 08:39 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Charger</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Try this one<br><A HREF="http://forums.autoweek.com/servlet/JiveServlet/download/31-30489-692131-41750/Picture%201.png" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.autoweek.com/ser...1.png</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Thanks!<p>Homerun, Bob. Home. Run.

Charger
04-02-2006, 08:56 PM
<A HREF="http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/04/02/breaking-gm-previews-2008-cadillac-cts/#more-2228" TARGET="_blank">http://www.leftlanenews.com/20...-2228</A>

piokor
04-02-2006, 08:57 PM
That interior seems to be inspired by the new Escalade's interior:<p> <IMG SRC="http://a904.g.akamai.net/7/904/506/v0011/www.autobytel.com/images/2007/Cadillac/Escalade/400/07_Cadillac_Escalade_indash.jpg" BORDER="0">

JBlair
04-02-2006, 09:02 PM
Interior is gorgeous, but sadly, I think this may be a concept.

Gian86
04-02-2006, 09:02 PM
I just watch that video on american 60 minutes website, after cadillac returns to Australia next year i hope this model will bring here as well and it will suffer lexus popularity here.

DoMiNo
04-02-2006, 09:17 PM
This was a very calculated, and IMO brilliant PR move by GM. It appears this tiny clip has a whole lot of people very excited. I only hope--if it is indeed a concept--that the production model looks half this good.<p>The interior looks production ready, though. Very subtle use of wood and switchgear/steering wheel/gearshift are not what I'd expect from a glitzy showcar. If anything, it is a thinly-veiled version of the production interior (of what, I don't think any of us can be certain). And it appears to be a huge step ahead from the current CTS, as well as the STS/XLR interiors. The rims don't look huge, either, another clue to indicate that perhaps this is at least close to production-spec.<p><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by DoMiNo at 9:24 PM 4/2/2006</i>

SV
04-02-2006, 09:23 PM
i think it probably is a concept - the rear is way too simplified for production, although i could easily see that front end on the final car (same for the interior, though maybe a bit less glitzy). still, if it really is very very close to the final CTS, then expect a huge hit for GM <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"><p>still, if this is a concept, i wonder what the production car will look like...less chrome i'm sure, but will it lose that gorgeous headlight detailing? probably...i mean it has normal ol' projectors and everything, but it seems just too good for production....

DoMiNo
04-02-2006, 09:26 PM
I'll keep my fingers crossed that GM will wow us. They've certainly been trying harder, as of late, and cars like the Sky/Solstice show that when they put their minds to it they can still be innovative and they can still produce gorgeous automobiles. And besides, knowing how much they have at stake at this point, how can they <I>not</I> swing for the fences?

Chris_Doane
04-02-2006, 09:58 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>SHEPO</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">HOLY SH!T!!! Is that the production Cadillac Sixteen, cuz it certainly ain't a CTS <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>The car that he pulls the cover up on the front is the Next Gen. CTS.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by CD-BP at 12:34 AM 4/3/2006</i>

Comrade
04-02-2006, 10:04 PM
What's NG ?

piokor
04-02-2006, 10:17 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>comRADe</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What's NG ?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Next Generation?

Gian86
04-02-2006, 10:44 PM
The rear looks like cien concept, not sixteen much. Now we want to see the design for this next cadillac.

knihc2008
04-02-2006, 11:28 PM
why would cadillac show their CTS so early?<p>the car has a potential of looking good but that grille is simply too bold and too big for a svelte euro-sport-handling vehicle.

DoMiNo
04-03-2006, 12:00 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knihc2008</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why would cadillac show their CTS so early?<p>the car has a potential of looking good but that grille is simply too bold and too big for a svelte euro-sport-handling vehicle.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It appears to be a bigger vehicle all around; perhaps they're switching strategies. Besides, "big and bold" is exactly what a Cadillac should be <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/2cool.gif" BORDER="0">

SOLAR
04-03-2006, 03:51 AM
so....concept..or production?

knicks125
04-03-2006, 05:43 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>SOLAR</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so....concept..or production?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well, the new CTS should still be a 2008 model (unless GM has moved up the release calendar). So, given that theory, the earliest they could release is still in 2007. IF and IF this has been set to debut next week in NY, I am leaning on the conept side. Then again, this could very well be the production model, we'll just have to wait-and-see.

IHaveACarAndIDriveIt
04-03-2006, 06:34 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knihc2008</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why would cadillac show their CTS so early?<p>the car has a potential of looking good but that grille is simply too bold and too big for a svelte euro-sport-handling vehicle.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>This is an AMERICAN car. Go back to Europe you. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>All hail the king of bling! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bowdown.gif" BORDER="0">
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Banker
04-03-2006, 07:01 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Well, the new CTS should still be a 2008 model (unless GM has moved up the release calendar). So, given that theory, the earliest they could release is still in 2007. IF and IF this has been set to debut next week in NY, I am leaning on the conept side. Then again, this could very well be the production model, we'll just have to wait-and-see.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The front end reveal is the 2008 CTS production model that will go on sale in early 2007 exactly five years after the current CTS went on sale. The rear end reveal is probably a concept CTS coupe based on the 2008 Sedan. It is expected that at an upcoming auto show (probably not NY - since that will be all about Saturn) that Cadillac will show the MG 2008 CTS, the Coupe Concept as well as the upcoming BRX. I would expect the big Cadillac debuts to be at LA in November or Detroit in January.<p>I could be wrong and Cadillac is going to show this at NY - but I would expect that the only thing we see in NY is the updated (inside and out) SRX.

YPN
04-03-2006, 11:34 AM
I am not a huge fan of the current cadillacs but I am very excited to see this car in NY. Has a lot of personality from the short clip that was on 60 mins. If this is the CTS and the interior is upgraded it will have a huge impact. Cant wait.

Chris_Doane
04-03-2006, 02:19 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>YPN</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am not a huge fan of the current cadillacs but I am very excited to see this car in NY. Has a lot of personality from the short clip that was on 60 mins. If this is the CTS and the interior is upgraded it will have a huge impact. Cant wait.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Only......you're not gonna see it in NYC.

knihc2008
04-03-2006, 04:51 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>IHaveACarAndIDriveIt</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is an AMERICAN car. Go back to Europe you. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>All hail the king of bling! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bowdown.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>well, im actually chinese. and i just think BIG AMERICAN BLING BLING totally does not go with entry-level vehicle. unless it is 300C sized... which it is not. i think the design would look great on a 300C-sized car... maybe the STS or DeVille replacement.

JBlair
04-03-2006, 05:28 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knihc2008</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well, im actually chinese. and i just think BIG AMERICAN BLING BLING totally does not go with entry-level vehicle. unless it is 300C sized... which it is not. i think the design would look great on a 300C-sized car... maybe the STS or DeVille replacement.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well, that just means you don't really understand what makes Cadillacs unique.

knicks125
04-03-2006, 05:45 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>IHaveACarAndIDriveIt</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>This is an AMERICAN car. Go back to Europe you. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>All hail the king of bling! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bowdown.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Let's try to discuss the car itself; instead of attacking fellow members. I'd say with almost every car, some people like it, while others don't - agree to disagree based on the difference of opinions.<p>Beauty is in the eye of beholder <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

knihc2008
04-03-2006, 07:54 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, that just means you don't really understand what makes Cadillacs unique. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>uhh.. then what makes cadillacs unique? their ability to be large, flamboyant vehicles, am i wrong? they have never been unique in their ability to be large and flamboyant while being able to handle like a european car. in which case which one of us doesn't understand what makes cadillacs unique?

DoMiNo
04-03-2006, 08:14 PM
Wait I'm confused...

JBlair
04-03-2006, 11:12 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knihc2008</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">uhh.. then what makes cadillacs unique? their ability to be large, flamboyant vehicles, am i wrong? they have never been unique in their ability to be large and flamboyant while being able to handle like a european car. in which case which one of us doesn't understand what makes cadillacs unique?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>You obviously still don't, because Cadillacs (the new ones) ARE flamboyant and DO handle like european cars. They're unique because there are NO american cars that are quite like Cadillacs, and very FEW european makes that can manage to get away with some of the flamboyant design signatures like Cadillac can.

knihc2008
04-03-2006, 11:41 PM
the current CTS, XLR and STS, the closest european-handling cars in their stable, are by no means flamboyant, and a new escalade, the cloest thing to flamboyant in the stable, by no means handles like a european car. that leaves... the DTS, which is neither.<p>flamboyant isn't using only a ruler to style your cars. flamboyant is chrome everywhere, tailfins, large cadillacs of yore. flamboyant is not "art and science."

JBlair
04-03-2006, 11:48 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knihc2008</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the current CTS, XLR and STS, the closest european-handling cars in their stable, are by no means flamboyant, and a new escalade, the cloest thing to flamboyant in the stable, by no means handles like a european car. that leaves... the DTS, which is neither.<p>flamboyant isn't using only a ruler to style your cars. flamboyant is chrome everywhere, tailfins, large cadillacs of yore. flamboyant is not "art and science."</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Says you. Frankly, a lot of people out there would entirely disagree with you about that.

knihc2008
04-03-2006, 11:49 PM
good reply.

DoMiNo
04-04-2006, 12:18 AM
Cadillacs aren't so much flamboyant as they are <I>distinctive</I>. No one will ever mistake a Cadillac for something else, and that's a selling point in many ways, especially in a market where American cars are criticized for their utter lack of style and flair. And frankly the CTS--while still attractive--doesn't have the same edge that it used to; it needs something more. And if further distinguishing their new models means making them more "flamboyant" by (god forbid!) harking back to their glory days of chrome, more power to them.

caarmike
04-04-2006, 03:20 PM
This new CTS prototype looks amazing. I just hope GM stays solvent enough to actually build it. I'm still hearing a lot about GM's potential bankruptcy.

SV
04-04-2006, 03:35 PM
yeah, it's basically what domino says. cadillacs are distinctive...personally i think the new CTS is still quite distinctive; despite what others think i like the new front end more than the current car's. and knicks/jblair, remember there's such a thing as an <I>opinion,</I> before this turns into a flame war or something...

knicks125
04-04-2006, 04:25 PM
That was what I tried to accomplish. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> I made the post to get everyone to focus on the car instead of attacking each other. <p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Let's try to discuss the car itself; instead of attacking fellow members. I'd say with almost every car, some people like it, while others don't - agree to disagree based on the difference of opinions.<p>Beauty is in the eye of beholder <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I just realized I haven't even commented on this myself <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I'd say looks good so far, very promising but I will wait until full release...

DSC-OFF
04-05-2006, 07:25 PM
Very similar to the Imaj Concept 6 years back<p><IMG SRC="http://sport.auto.free.fr/photomondial/CadillacIMAJ.jpg" BORDER="0"><br> <br>

CosworthKid
04-05-2006, 07:42 PM
It looks amazing, i absolutely love it!This is the best American sedan i have seen in decades, and its exactly the type of "unique character" that NA carmakers should take notice of. It avoids being retro and yet still manages to capture the true essense of Cadillac of old. I hope the production car ends up looking spot on. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

DSC-OFF
04-19-2006, 08:32 AM
<A HREF="http://www.americancarfans.com/spyphotos/6060419.002/6060419.002.mini1L.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.americancarfans.com...L.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.americancarfans.com/spyphotos/6060419.002/6060419.002.mini2L.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.americancarfans.com...L.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos.cfm/country/acf/spyphotoID/6060419.002/cadillac/cadillac-cts-super-v-spy-photos" TARGET="_blank">WCF</A><br> <br>

Charger
04-20-2006, 07:04 PM
<A HREF="http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=110105" TARGET="_blank">http://www.edmunds.com/insidel...10105</A><p>this pic wasnt displayed in the link<br><A HREF="http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/il/lp/2006/0417/future2.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332...2.jpg</A>

against the wall
04-20-2006, 07:18 PM
woah that looks awesome. it looks to have the front end we saw on 60 minutes. joyful tears are running down my face. good on ya, gm!<p>edit: just saw the links on the edmunds site in addition to the sole pic. they really did a good job on hiding this a year in advance(sense my sarcasm).

LEXUS FAN!
04-20-2006, 07:30 PM
the 60 minutes car was a concept version?<p>it looked sexy...i hope it will look like that

Charger
04-20-2006, 07:34 PM
<A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/Enthusiasts/Spy_Shots/Spy_Shots_2008_Cadillac_CTS.S178.A10316.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co....html</A>

SV
04-20-2006, 07:51 PM
the door suggets a very nice interior, IMO (and all the parts shown in that prototype match the interior mock up shown earlier too, so it will indeed be getting that very nice interior largely unchanged)...and the front seems to be the same as shown on 60 minuites, except, is it just me, or is the headlight detailling different? that would be disappointing to me, it really looked great on that 60 minutes picture....<p>edit: ah nevermind, edmunds said the 60 minutes car was the concept, phooey, i was really hoping that was the production model (i mean, i love those headlights!). it should still look good though, and anyway i shouldn't be complaining, because GM is finally being on-time with their model runs (in fact, the CTS is getting a shorter run than most of its rivals, at just 5 years)<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by SV at 10:01 PM 4/20/2006</i>

Gobias
04-21-2006, 04:30 AM
Can anyone tell if the CTS has grown or decreased in length? In some pictures, it looks like it lost a few inches, however, in other shots with an overhead view, it looks even bigger than the current CTS.

jbartley
04-21-2006, 08:31 PM
def bigger.<p>compare to current pics and the front door is much longer. the rear door looks the same size, but the higher beltine makes the backseat look tiny (like the CLS)<p>trunk looks bigger too! which if any of you drive the current one, it's trunk is rather small.<p>and i'm liking the taller, lower front. much more distinctive! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by jbartley at 8:44 PM 4/21/2006</i>

Charger
04-26-2006, 09:21 PM
slightly different angle and some info<br><A HREF="http://info.detnews.com/autosinsider/sneakpeek/index.cfm?id=22658" TARGET="_blank">http://info.detnews.com/autosi...22658</A>

SHEPO
04-30-2006, 03:38 PM
Whoa, I can't believe I haven't seen this car yet. It's gorgeous <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>It's like Extreme Makeover: Car Edition <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0">

against the wall
06-20-2006, 09:38 AM
<A HREF="http://www.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos.cfm/country/acf/spyphotoID/6060620.002/cadillac/new-cadillac-cts-spy-photos" TARGET="_blank">http://www.worldcarfans.com/sp...hotos</A>

StevenZoz
06-20-2006, 12:20 PM
it looks bigger

the1
06-20-2006, 01:36 PM
Wow! It looks hot!<p><A HREF="http://news.windingroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/Cad.CTS.nr.KGP2.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://news.windingroad.com/wp...2.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://news.windingroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/Cad.CTS.nr1.KGP2.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://news.windingroad.com/wp...2.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://news.windingroad.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/Cad.CTS.nr2.KGP2.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://news.windingroad.com/wp...2.jpg</A>

DaDesign
06-20-2006, 02:35 PM
I like it, its got a much agressive look.

the1
06-20-2006, 02:40 PM
Yes, the new 4door coupe look, coupled with the new quality interior and the CTS-V Plus 600hp version could make the new CTS a real hit.

IcedG35
06-20-2006, 02:54 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>the1</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes, the new 4door coupe look, coupled with the new quality interior and the CTS-V Plus 600hp version could make the new CTS a real hit.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>putting 600hp in their entry level car seems a little crazy, especailly since the competition will have at most 400-450 hp and GM rarely goes above what's necessary to stay competitive. i think they will max out at 505hp or whatever the Z06 engine has, although that too is excessive. you definitely don't need 7 liters in a car this size. <p>BTW, does this compete with a 3er/C class or the 5er/E class? it looks big to be entry level

knihc2008
06-20-2006, 03:30 PM
This car is going to look great. The CTS has always been more of a 5er sized vehicle anyway, IcedG35. Even so, I'm perplexed by those short rear doors.

IcedG35
06-20-2006, 03:58 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knihc2008</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This car is going to look great. The CTS has always been more of a 5er sized vehicle anyway, IcedG35. Even so, I'm perplexed by those short rear doors.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>that's weird since it is priced under a base 3 or C class model. i hope its smaller and more sporty....less bulky

Gobias
06-21-2006, 02:41 AM
If it has grown in size, why are the rear doors so small? I think they may have downsized it a bit from the current model.

gawid
06-23-2006, 02:28 PM
<A HREF="http://www.ewanskelly.net/picture.php?cat=recent_pics&image_id=455" TARGET="_blank">http://www.ewanskelly.net/pict...d=455</A><p><A HREF="http://www.ewanskelly.net/picture.php?cat=recent_pics&image_id=456" TARGET="_blank">http://www.ewanskelly.net/pict...d=456</A>

the1
06-23-2006, 03:21 PM
It looks like a smaller STS.

mzoltarp
06-23-2006, 06:14 PM
Gorgeous!

JBlair
06-23-2006, 07:38 PM
I think the actual proportions are throwing us off as far as size goes, since the rear deck is a lot shorter and the whole car is a lot more wedgy than before.

The General
06-24-2006, 11:33 AM
<IMG SRC="http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/2937/ctsinterieur3tn5hs.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p>Interior picture. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0">

against the wall
06-24-2006, 11:39 AM
if you could fall in love with a car, this is my love. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0">

SHEPO
06-24-2006, 12:25 PM
Simply drop-dead gorgeous! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0">

RetroJapan
06-24-2006, 12:58 PM
Wow. Very very nice! I'm excited to see the rest of the car....

Player4
06-24-2006, 01:22 PM
This car is looking REALLY good, very sporty and elegant and the interior it leaves me speechless really nice and btw is that a manual tranny? If so then i think the 3-series and G35 have some serious competition coming up!!!<p><br>Im very pleased and amazed so far. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bowdown.gif" BORDER="0">

JBlair
06-24-2006, 05:33 PM
That is absolutely postively one of the best GM interiors I have ever seen. Everything about it screams 'luxury' and every detail looks like it has been sweated over. I see a lot of Sixteen influence in it, especially around the center stack. I can't wait to see this car un-camo'd.

Magical Trevor
06-24-2006, 05:57 PM
Interior looks excellent. I'm wondering who their test driver is...<br>

knihc2008
06-24-2006, 11:06 PM
Damn, way to freaking go GM, this car is turning out to be freaking gorgeous. At first glance the ergonomics of those buttons don't look particularly user friendly with random knobs, clocks and buttons all over but damn do they look sexy. I just hope the quality of the material used matches this astounding design.

JBlair
06-24-2006, 11:34 PM
I just realized, after seeing the most recent shots of the Commodore VE, that the new CTS is going to share several interior components with the new Zetas. At the very least, the center stack switchgear looks to be shared, and the steering wheel looks like the VEs as well. (though I am admittedly unsure about that last part). Don't get me wrong, the parts sharing does absolutely NOTHING to diminish what a fantastic design this is.

the1
06-25-2006, 05:13 AM
Wow! What a great interior.

knicks125
07-10-2006, 04:37 AM
<A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/Enthusiasts/Spy_Shots/Spy_Shots_08_Cadillac_CTS.S178.A10620.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co....html</A><p><A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/scrapbook/original/2314.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co...4.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/scrapbook/original/2315.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co...5.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/scrapbook/original/2316.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co...6.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/scrapbook/original/2317.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co...7.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/scrapbook/original/2318.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co...8.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/scrapbook/original/2319.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co...9.jpg</A>

mzoltarp
07-10-2006, 06:40 AM
It's going to be gorgeous.

SHEPO
07-10-2006, 08:48 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mzoltarp</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's going to be gorgeous.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I agree; however, those Lehmann chops are hideous <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/pukeface.gif" BORDER="0">

JBlair
07-10-2006, 02:51 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>SHEPO</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I agree; however, those Lehmann chops are hideous <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/pukeface.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>They most certainly are. Someone needs to string Lehmann and his lackeys up by their *ahem* privates for that chop.

CSpec
07-17-2006, 06:41 PM
cheersandgears.com has an exclusive rear-shot which should be up at 11...

Oz Astra
07-17-2006, 07:22 PM
WOW that interior is Impressive!!!<p>Much better than the usual GMNA rubbish

Gian86
07-17-2006, 07:40 PM
This is going to be a better CTS soon. Looking forward to it soon.

StevenZoz
07-17-2006, 08:05 PM
<A HREF="http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=10412" TARGET="_blank">http://www.cheersandgears.com/...10412</A>

against the wall
07-17-2006, 08:08 PM
beat me to it. looks good but im not sure about the bumper vent thing.

JBlair
07-17-2006, 08:10 PM
Meh. Just a mediocre chop and not much more.

Ascariss
07-17-2006, 10:15 PM
That rear quarter panel and C pillar is really large and thick respectively.

the1
07-18-2006, 06:16 AM
It's just a chop. The actual car will be a lot more sleeker and good looking.

!!!TED!!!
07-26-2006, 04:37 PM
New rendering I did based on a spy pic.<br>Also, new sketches from another artist!<p><A HREF="http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=10605&view=findpost&p=171803" TARGET="_blank">http://www.cheersandgears.com/...71803</A><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0">

against the wall
08-25-2006, 12:45 AM
new pics<br><A HREF="http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=116604#4" TARGET="_blank">http://www.edmunds.com/insidel...604#4</A><p>3 months everyone. though it seems like 3 years.

Chris_Doane
10-05-2006, 09:22 AM
Pics of an '09 CTSv powertrain mule:<br><A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/Enthusiasts/Spy_Shots_and_Future_Cars/Spy_Shots_2009_Cadillac_CTS-V.S178.A10938.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co....html</A><p><A HREF="http://blogs.edmunds.com/.ee94c83" TARGET="_blank">http://blogs.edmunds.com/.ee94c83</A>

mzoltarp
10-06-2006, 05:11 AM
I like the shape and styling of the mule a lot.

haji
10-11-2006, 10:37 AM
craziest camouflage ever in automotive history<br><A HREF="http://www.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos.cfm/country/acf/spyphotoID/6061011.003/cadillac/spy-photos-cadillac-cts-v-series" TARGET="_blank">http://www.worldcarfans.com/sp...eries</A>

Mil
10-11-2006, 11:07 AM
Thats certainly weird!<br>Maybe even a road hazard (it distracts you when driving i guess)?

against the wall
10-11-2006, 11:35 AM
thats definetly the ctsv. look at the size of the brakes/calipers. and the hood bump.

Kebra
10-17-2006, 03:16 PM
<A HREF="http://www.leftlanenews.com/2006/10/17/real-deal-2008-cadillac-cts-v-spied/#more-4261" TARGET="_blank">http://www.leftlanenews.com/20...-4261</A><p>

jro
10-18-2006, 08:19 AM
i think it's funny how in the one picture from leftlanenews, it looks like the people in the CTS-V are taking pictures of the spy photographer! also, from a couple shots it looks like there's a roll cage in this car, do they do that often?

HXC Performance
10-18-2006, 01:33 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jro</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">also, from a couple shots it looks like there's a roll cage in this car, do they do that often?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>When it has a 505hp ZO6 motor they do!!

Kebra
10-18-2006, 04:45 PM
^ Yeah but this thing has a supercharged LSX engine from the Stingray/Bluedevil (650hp) note the intercooler up front.<p><br>I can't wait to see this baby. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>

Chris_Doane
10-18-2006, 07:37 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Kebra</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">^ Yeah but this thing has a supercharged LSX engine from the Stingray/Bluedevil (650hp)</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Uh, no.

the1
11-03-2006, 06:12 PM
<A HREF="http://news.auto.cz/img/galleries/20_454b111018962.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://news.auto.cz/img/galler...2.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://news.auto.cz/img/galleries/21_454b111029d5d.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://news.auto.cz/img/galler...d.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://news.auto.cz/img/galleries/30_454b11103a4ca.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://news.auto.cz/img/galler...a.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://news.auto.cz/img/galleries/40_454b11104d846.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://news.auto.cz/img/galler...6.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://news.auto.cz/img/galleries/41_454b11105709f.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://news.auto.cz/img/galler...f.jpg</A><br>

mzoltarp
11-03-2006, 08:54 PM
one word: SMITTEN!

Nurburgring
11-08-2006, 02:11 PM
<B>2008 Cadillac CTS To Debut at 2007 NAIAS.</B><p><IMG SRC="http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2006/11/final_cts_low_res_gmsource.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>AutoBlog</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> This year's North American International Auto Show (NAIAS) will serve as the venue for Cadillac to debut the redesigned 2008 Cadillac CTS. The entry-level and uber-popular sedan will receive a thorough exterior tweaking, as seen during the 60 Minutes spot back in April. The revised look of the CTS will foretell the future of Cadillac designs, just as the current generation had; however, little information has been made available about what will be beneath the new CTS' sheetmetal. Rumors of a 3.6-liter V6 producing somewhere in the 280-300 HP realm have been heard and the forthcoming V-series model is expected to make around 400+ HP, when it debuts, likely sometime in 2009.<p>The press release (posted after the jump) states that the CTS will come to market in late 2007 as a 2008 model.<p>PRESS RELEASE:<br>Cadillac To Premiere All-New 2008 CTS In January<p>DETROIT, Mich. - It is the subject of online discussions, rumors and spy photographers. It is the successor to an award-winning and popular luxury car. And it's coming in January. Cadillac confirms that the all-new 2008 CTS will make its world premiere in January at the North American International Auto Show in Detroit.<p>"Cadillac has engineered an historic renaissance, with a completely new product portfolio, driven in large part by the original CTS," said general manager Jim Taylor. "Success can drive conservatism, but not for Cadillac. The next chapter, beginning in January, promises to be even more dramatic."<p>The debut of the redesigned 2008 CTS in the marketplace is scheduled for late-summer of 2007 in the U.S., with worldwide exports to follow in the fall. As this new chapter prepares to open, the current CTS model continues to be an automotive success story.<p>"CTS has built a strong record of success on many levels," Taylor said. "It has exceeded our goals for sales volume, set new design trends, won championships in racing, and earned awards for quality and customer satisfaction."<p>Cadillac sold more than 61,000 copies of the CTS in the U.S. in 2005, compared to roughly 38,000 in 2002, an increase of 60% over that period. This sustained sales growth over nearly five years is counter to conventional industry logic that says a new car's hottest sales occur shortly after launch. There are roughly 275,000 CTS owners worldwide, and industry researchers say they are among the most satisfied in the automotive market. AutoPacific rated CTS as the top Entry Luxury Car in its annual Vehicle Satisfaction Awards in 2006. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I don't know if that's an official rendering or not. However. the new CTS's release is a step closer. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/2cool.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>

erzhik
11-08-2006, 03:42 PM
Detroit? ohh yeah.. I am going there

DoMiNo
11-08-2006, 04:05 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>AutoBlog</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><IMG SRC="http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2006/11/final_cts_low_res_gmsource.jpg" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Regardless of whether it's official, the spy pics we've seen indicate it's pretty darn accurate. And I love it. But what I <I>really</I> wanna see is the interior...<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0">

Nurburgring
11-08-2006, 06:46 PM
Wait...so is this just a major facelift or a total overhaul? The greenhouse looks quite similar to the current one yet from the spy pics and especially the front of the car in the rendering tells me GM did more than just tweak a few here and there.

FRDesign
11-08-2006, 06:48 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>AUDIR8</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wait...so is this just a major facelift or a total overhaul? The greenhouse looks quite similar to the current one yet from the spy pics and especially the front of the car in the rendering tells me GM did more than just tweak a few here and there.</TD></TR></TABLE>Its 100% all new.

Nurburgring
11-08-2006, 08:32 PM
I believe this is an official teaser from GM.<p><A HREF="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3545/557/1600/cts.1.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://photos1.blogger.com/blo...1.jpg</A><p>I can't wait to see the full thing.<p>Edit- This is Not a Teaser. I Repeat. This is Not a Teaser.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by -R8- at 10:53 PM 11/8/2006</i>

JBlair
11-08-2006, 08:46 PM
GM has released no official teasers for the CTS. In fact, the focus of this picture seems to be on the wing, which GM highlights in pictures on Caddy's own site. That and the fact that the taillamps and sheetmetal in this picture (plus the wing itself) are identical to the current gen.

Nurburgring
11-08-2006, 08:52 PM
Image Courtesy of Vince Burlapp's Blog <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> . Sorry guys.

Gian86
11-08-2006, 11:10 PM
It will look very good for next gen CTS but i hope the design is bit different to Cadillac.

leftlanenews
11-09-2006, 07:14 AM
That picture is from caddy's website. It's the current car.<p><A HREF="http://www.cadillac.com/_res/i/acc/114046665.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.cadillac.com/_res/i/acc/114046665.jpg</A><p>Vincey doesn't have a brain in his head.<p>As we all know this is more what the real tail will look like<p> <IMG SRC="http://www.leftlanenews.com/wp-images/media/apr2_2008_cadillac_cts_2.jpg" BORDER="0">

SHEPO
12-19-2006, 01:33 PM
<A HREF="http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2006/12/cadillacs-turn-for-sneak-peek-2008-cts.html" TARGET="_blank">http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2....html</A>

knicks125
04-18-2007, 04:55 PM
<A HREF="http://www.caranddriver.com/dailyautoinsider/12833/2009-cadillac-cts-v.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.caranddriver.com/da....html</A>

Vltava
04-18-2007, 06:40 PM
Now we're talkin'! (see Lincoln MKS story, below.)

mzoltarp
04-19-2007, 04:38 AM
Bring it on. The other day I saw a brand new STS-V but the badging clearly said STV on the back.

DSC-OFF
05-30-2007, 08:42 AM
<A HREF="http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/05/abw_cts_vseries_cd_jun07_priddy1.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/...1.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/05/abw_m_cts_vseries_cd_jun07_priddy_b.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/...b.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/05/abw_cts_vseries_cd_jun07_priddy6.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/...6.jpg</A><p>CTS-V<p><A HREF="http://www.autoblog.com/gallery/2009-cadillac-cts-v-spy-shots/257719/" TARGET="_blank">Autoblog</A><br> <br>

DoMiNo
05-30-2007, 10:51 AM
Mmmm, now there's a power bulge.

mzoltarp
05-30-2007, 03:12 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>DoMiNo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Mmmm, now there's a power bulge.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I'll say!

smokeonit
06-22-2007, 03:04 PM
from my sighting today it lppks like the headlights will be very different... the last priddy pix have the old headlights... the one i took have generic filler headlights... my guess is they will be more like the mercedes c-class... also the front door is much straighter to the front... in the priddy shot the door has a little curve towards the back... very slight, but it's noticeable

DetroitWonk
09-30-2007, 04:25 PM
First spy shots of the 2009 Cadillac CTS-V: <A HREF="http://jalopnik.com/cars/new-cars/2009-cadillac-cts+v-305315.php" TARGET="_blank">http://jalopnik.com/cars/new-c...5.php</A>

leftlanenews
09-30-2007, 09:31 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>DetroitWonk</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">First spy shots of the 2009 Cadillac CTS-V: <A HREF="http://jalopnik.com/cars/new-cars/2009-cadillac-cts+v-305315.php" TARGET="_blank">http://jalopnik.com/cars/new-c...5.php</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Ray,<p>We know you work for Jalopnik and like promoting your employer, but how are those the "first spy shots" of the 2009 CTS-V? The world has been seeing spy shots for a year. These are merely the latest in a long, long line.

PRODIGY
11-03-2007, 08:53 AM
source <A HREF="http://www.autocar.co.uk" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autocar.co.uk</A><br><A HREF="http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/228987/" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/...8987/</A><br>An all new four-wheel drive, Corvette Z06-engined, BMW M5-baiting Cadillac CTS-V will become the flagship of the re-launched US brands line-up next year - but Autocar has learned that US bosses have yet to approve the car for right-hand drive production.<p>The snorting 500bhp CTS, previewed by the CTS Sport concept shown at this week's SEMA show in Las Vegas, is still under development in the US. Over there bosses remain unconvinced of the financial case for exporting the super saloon to the UK, despite Cadillac bosses here fighting for the car to be imported as hard as they can. <p>US bosses are worried that the limited number of cars likely to be sold in right-hand drive markets doesnt justify the millions of dollars needed to engineer the car properly for them.<p>If the new CTS-V is four-wheel drive, unlike any CTS gone before, the nature of its all-wheel drive system may make it all-the-more expensive to convert for right-hand-drive. All-wheel drive versions of Mercedes' C-class and BMW's 3-series, with a front-mounted engine and rear-mounted transaxle gearbox, require an extra driveshaft running forward from the transmission to the front wheels. In left-hand-drive models, this is routed through part of the front passenger footwell, and makes converting to right-hand drive prohibitively expensive. The same could be true for the new CTS-V.<p>However, a decision to bypass the UK market with its halo CTS could still be interpreted as proof that Cadillac still doesnt take Britain seriously, and given this weeks re-launch of the struggling GM luxury brand, that's exactly what the firm doesn't need.<p><br>Sales below supercar levels<p>Cadillac sales over the last two years have totalled around 400, according to new UK boss Jon Nash, whose has added the US luxury nameplate to his Saab UK responsibilities. This disastrous performance is a fraction of the 8000-or-so cars first forecast in 2005, when Caddy set-up in the UK. This year Cadillac hopes to sell around 400 cars, rising to 600 or so next year when the new CTS and BLS Wagon are added to the range, followed by sales of around 800 in 2009.<p>Nashs plan is deliberately conservative. Weve already over-promised twice, I dont want to repeat the same mistake.<p>His control of Cadillac in the UK is, however, still a little remote. GM is continuing contracts with Dutch distributor Kroymans and UK dealer group Kroymans who have invested millions of pounds in dealers, parts warehouses and other back-up services. Nash, however, has control over marketing and brand strategy, which he now plans to concentrate 90 per cent of his resources on. Get the brand right and we wont have to struggle to sell cars, the sales will just come naturally, he says.<p><br>Shaking off the Elvis connection<p>Nash has already been able to prune back the dealer network to five sites from ten, but there will be more in future, most likely operated by other dealer groups than Pendragon.<p>One significant breakthough is a commitment by GM for millions of pounds  the exact sum remains confidential  for a solid advertising and brand marketing campaign to raise awareness of Cadillacs current models in the UK.<p>Knowledge of Cadillac among UK buyers continues to be dominated by historic links with 1950s pink Caddys and Elvis. People just dont know about the current models like the BLS and CTS, says Nash.<p>pics.. <A HREF="http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsGallery.aspx?AR=228987&EL=-1" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/...EL=-1</A>

Chris_Doane
11-03-2007, 11:23 AM
Most of that first paragraph is wrong.

Roadster44
11-03-2007, 04:41 PM
Seen one here in West Bloomfield, MI at 7am in the morning on my way to work. Gave the dude two thumbs up. Oh and the thing sounds shweeeeeeeet...

CosworthKid
11-12-2007, 05:55 AM
<A HREF="http://bp3.blogger.com/_XEEIzU0UA1M/RzeOALE2PlI/AAAAAAAADzY/KFoEVDkFssg/s1600/1.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://bp3.blogger.com/_XEEIzU...1.jpg</A><p>Actual CTS wagon? If so it looks beautiful<p>source: theholywoodextra<p>if you cannot access the photo here is the actual link to the site:<br><A HREF="http://thehollywoodextra.blogspot.com/2007/11/cadillac-cts-wagon.html" TARGET="_blank">http://thehollywoodextra.blogs....html</A>

Chris_Doane
11-12-2007, 11:16 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CosworthKid</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Actual CTS wagon? If so it looks beautiful<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>No it's not.

knicks125
12-07-2007, 03:09 AM
Courtesy of Insideline:

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/GeneralFuture/articleId=123863?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..2 .*#8

Ark
12-07-2007, 04:31 AM
the front bumper design isnt exactly coheisive. It takes away from an otherwise good looking car.

swizzle
12-07-2007, 04:39 AM
Although it isn't exactly bad either...

against the wall
12-07-2007, 04:54 AM
yeah i think it would look better without the mesh/chicken wire in the bumper, and instead have nothing there. they also couldve angled the part of the bumper that is body colored a little bit, instead of making it go straight down. so if you took away some mesh and reshaped the bumper a bit, it would look much much better.

DoMiNo
12-07-2007, 06:06 AM
Oh, lord, this thing looks mean as hell! The rear view is positively brutal! And that shot of the side view highlights what looks to be an aggressively raked stance. Sure, some elements of the front end are a little heavy-handed, but I for one am glad they decided to go a little further "out there" with the new generation V than they did with the last. I am pretty much in love with this car.

I hope they decide to make a new CTS-V racecar with this one...wow.

the1
12-07-2007, 06:46 AM
The old V was pretty good to begin with, now the new one has much better looks, a great interior and 525hp. I'd say it will rock!

Ark
12-07-2007, 06:58 AM
Although it isn't exactly bad either...

Not saying its ugly, just that it doesn't flow.
This is what the bumper should have looked like:
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/news/2007/1029/cadillac.cts.sport.concept.1.500.jpg

the1
12-07-2007, 11:58 AM
A bit better, indeed.

CosworthKid
12-11-2007, 10:13 AM
No disguise: 2009 Cadillac CTS-V uncovered

December11

Late last week, spy photographers snapped the first photos of the 2009 Cadillac CTS-V without any disguise on the Thunderhill Raceway in Willows, California. We've since received 16 new images of the car undergoing some kind of official photo shoot by GM.

Despite rumors to the contrary, the CTS-V is not powered by the LS7 motor from the Corvette Z06. As reported countless times by Leftlane and other reputable sources, the super sedan is propelled by GM's new LSA motor, delivering 525 or 550 horsepower. The LSA is a 6.2L, smallblock V8 with a supercharger. The LSA has an intercooler integrated into the intake manifold.

The other popular rumor involves an all-wheel-drive setup. While the regular CTS has optional AWD, the CTS-V will be strictly rear-wheel-drive, sources say.

Spy photos show that the CTS-V will feature Michelin Pilot Sport 2 tires. While it wasn't clear what size the front tires are, the rear tires will be 285 series on 19 inch wheels. The '09 will continue to utilize a massive set of Brembo brakes up front and in back.

Recent comments from GM at the SEMA show indicate that Recaro seats may show up inside the CTS-V.

GM's Bob Lutz was recently quoted saying the 2009 CTS-V "will be at a power level only described as unexpectedly high." Then referencing the current BMW M5, Lutz said the CTS-V will suck the doors off the competition if the next M5 isn't significantly better.

After driving a prototype, Lutz said "flat-out incredible. Ive never driven anything like that.

In the past, the current CTS-V has suffered from "wheel hop" problems. The 2009 CTS-V will feature a completely re-done rear end with a much better rear axle. Sources say this has eliminated the wheel hop issue altogether.

Production on the new CTS V-Series will start in September of 2008, and will be limited to about 7000 units annually. Internally, GM is referring to the car as "GMX322 V S/C..

CTS-V completely uncovered for a photo shoot. I love the way it looks, it's gorgeous!
check them out:
http://www.leftlanenews.com/cadillac-cts-v.html#more-4990

swizzle
12-11-2007, 01:46 PM
Oh if only I were wealthy enough to buy one...