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Nodnarb
04-11-2005, 01:15 PM
<IMG SRC="http://home.comcast.net/~ntice368/honda_1.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://home.comcast.net/~ntice368/honda_2.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Some guy over at Freshalloy.com (The Nissan enthusiast site) spotted this in a Minnesota mall parking lot and took a couple pics with a cameraphone. He said he would have gotten more had he realized what he was getting.

AM2
04-11-2005, 01:24 PM
That looks interesting....<br>I wonder if this update is only for the USDM version?

bolita
04-11-2005, 01:27 PM
You never know what you will bump in to! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/tuut.gif" BORDER="0">

Redline
04-11-2005, 01:59 PM
For GM's designs to be so widely criticized, they sure are copied alot. I hope I'm not the only one who sees a blend of many of the recent GM sedans in this.

LEXUS FAN!
04-11-2005, 02:14 PM
is that an Accord facelift or the new Civic coupe???<p>the Accord already got a facelift though because the rear now has all red taillights instead of half red/half white.

Nodnarb
04-11-2005, 02:17 PM
It's mostly interior designs that are criticized. And people saying they aren't taking enough risk with the design, not enough emotion in them, like they were used to from GM of the 50's and 60's. Honda on the other hand rarely has an inspiring design with a handfull of exceptions. I see a hint of Grand Prix in the back. However, I see more elements of the current Accord Coupe and the Civic Si Concept.<p>If you look at the first pic you can see that there are four doors, so this definately isn't the Civic coupe. That is suposed to stay pretty close to the Si concept. And the all red tail lights aren't the facelift, even though that is a common "facelift" for Honda's (new tail lights, not all red) From what I have read, an extensive facelift was ordered after the public disdain of the current sedan's back end treatment.

Charger
04-11-2005, 02:19 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>LEXUS FAN!</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is that an Accord facelift or the new Civic coupe???<p>the Accord already got a facelift though because the rear now has all red taillights instead of half red/half white.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I was thinking the same exact thing. But this car looks maybe too big for a Civic, but then again the new Civic does look a lot bigger in those other spy pics. The back end does look pretty similar.<br> <IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_chicago/civic/images/Civic_Si_Concept_15.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br>source: autoweek

SV
04-11-2005, 02:35 PM
judging from the fuzzy side picture, it looks like an accord to me. if it is, i guess they're facelifting it to give it a resemblance to the new civic.

DoMiNo
04-11-2005, 04:40 PM
I agree... the side profile says Accord. In any event, I like it.

erzhik
04-11-2005, 05:25 PM
so the new Accord facelift is goin to a mall without any disguise...very interesting and strange

ndjan
04-11-2005, 05:49 PM
That looks way too much like a cross between a Scion tC and the previous generation Infiniti m45. It also seems to have a huge rear overhang.

LEXUS FAN!
04-11-2005, 07:46 PM
it may be an Accord that they put the new Civic taillights on, but this is all so confusing, so who knows?

Dodger
04-11-2005, 07:59 PM
I agree, this is wierd <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/sheep.gif" BORDER="0">

Rugbyplaya91
04-11-2005, 08:11 PM
if that is a civic slap me silly and call me bobo..<p>that isn't very sporty looking it has to be an accord, and even if it is an accord it looks hella good, <p>but that bumper.. yaaaah!!!<p>and honda still can't get the lights.. correct<p>dis is all imo<br>

nismo
04-12-2005, 12:56 AM
This is definately the Accord. The Accord gets a facelift everytime they release a New Civic. They needed to change the rear end... sales are falling and thats the main complain they hear. It doesn't help with the new competition coming too.<br>Looks basically like the coupe now and I like the coupe alot.

TeeDi
04-12-2005, 04:20 AM
My eyes must be bad, because I can't even see a "Honda" symbol anywhere on that car.<p>Do we even know if it even is a Honda??<p>And if it is the new Honda Accord facelift, then I hope it stay's in the US, because that look's bloody shocking!!

Hornbag
04-12-2005, 04:37 AM
Its the Accord because the side profile is clearly an Accord. I think its looks alrite!

mzoltarp
04-12-2005, 05:11 AM
Maybe someone will catch the car and will stand still when they take the pic. Heck they may even get closer to the car when they shoot it so more side detail can be seen. The Accord desperately needs a reskin. The tail looks like the lights were put on upside down on the current one.

Pavilion
04-12-2005, 08:25 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Redline</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For GM's designs to be so widely criticized, they sure are copied alot. I hope I'm not the only one who sees a blend of many of the recent GM sedans in this.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Your not the only one. I see a whole lot of Grand Prix in that rear. However if it looks this good in a fuzzy pic think of how good it will look in a clear one.

knicks125
04-12-2005, 08:40 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Pavilion</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Your not the only one. I see a whole lot of Grand Prix in that rear. However if it looks this good in a fuzzy pic think of how good it will look in a clear one.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>you guys put way too much emphasis on the subject of taking design cues (or what you guys like to call "copying")...<p>The bottom line is that, the Accord, along with the Camry have been two of the most popular midsize sedans, where the GP never achieved such status...if you want to do something, do it correctly, don't leave it halfway and overestimate your success (in the case for GM)

Santeno
04-12-2005, 08:47 AM
what I see a whole lot of in that new rear-end is other Honda vehicles. It simply looks like they are bringing the design of the accord more in line with the rear end design of Honda/Acura's new batch of vehicles. So it generally resembles what other automakers have done a little. Something tells me that if honda designers were looking to pattern their designs after someone else, it wouldn't be Pontiac. All that is going on here is Honda looking for a more cohesive family look to their vehicles (which seems to be following the design of the new Legend/RL).

Andre
04-12-2005, 09:55 AM
I will remind members we're discussing the American Accord, no the European one.<p>From the profile it is indeed an Accord, but I doubt Honda would be so careless as to leave it in the Mall parking lot in Minnesota, at least not without some sort of fabric cover on it (car cover, not disguise). The License plate also doesn't look like Honda mfr... Honda's license plates are CA. So I do wonder if perhaps it could be a ricer

Redline
04-12-2005, 01:18 PM
This doesn't seem to be a ricer, its way to extensive and tasteful unless this is a guy with some weird tastes. Also, you can make out a "H" badge being covered up on the back, its not much camo, but at least its there. As for my comment on this looking like a GM, look more towards Buick, not Pontiac, for the design. The tail shares some close traits with the Lacrosse, just sharpened a bit to give it a better sport look.

Uberwagon
04-12-2005, 01:32 PM
That's an Ohio "special" plate. Road-tested Honda mules can be seen wearing them in California and the midwest.<br>

Andre
04-12-2005, 01:43 PM
ok, never seen an Ohio plate on a Honda before, but I'll take your word for it.<p>There is light camo on the rear, it's very well done... or it's a sign of poor craftsmanship <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

Speedstick
04-12-2005, 02:59 PM
ew. I like the current one better.<p>Although seems a bit more Acura-ish. But the fuzzy logo and side view look Honda Accord for sure.

JBlair
04-12-2005, 03:26 PM
I don't like this any more than the current one (which I don't like because the rear of the car is too big and too overwrought). I'd have to see better quality pics to even think about start making a judgement about it, but I guess I am glad that Honda is at least trying.

Pavilion
04-12-2005, 03:50 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>you guys put way too much emphasis on the subject of taking design cues (or what you guys like to call "copying")...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>who is "you guys"? I think that the quality of honda and design cues of pontiac go well together, thats all i meant. geeze. j/k <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0"> . But I see what you mean. the car looks good and trying to look only for influences (as if Honda needed any outside influence) takes away from the originality of the car.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Andre at 6:51 PM 4/12/2005</i>

Uberwagon
04-12-2005, 10:39 PM
The Accord is engineered and manufactured in Ohio so mules are usually given Ohio "special" plates allowing them to be driven anywhere in the country. Primary testing areas include Ohio & midwest as well as Mojave and LA area in California (proving grounds and HQ in Torrance). Look closely at previous spyshots of other Honda vehicles and you may see. <p>

Jordmaniac
05-31-2005, 02:03 PM
this is obviosly a civic. on the side profile, the car is about the size of the current civic, though it looks like the 1999 accord.

Andre
05-31-2005, 04:02 PM
It's an Accord. The trunk is straight from the Inspire (Asian version of the USDM Accord), except minus the bar lights, this is not the Civic.

superset
05-31-2005, 05:15 PM
autoblog.com had this story up from last week and linked to a message board with many people responding and saying it's actually a Nissan, and not an Accord. They went into full detail about the plates like some here have. Just go to Autoblog.com and look at last week's archive and look in the comments section. There is a link to the messageboard that I'm talking about.

JBlair
05-31-2005, 06:13 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>superset</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">autoblog.com had this story up from last week and linked to a message board with many people responding and saying it's actually a Nissan, and not an Accord. They went into full detail about the plates like some here have. Just go to Autoblog.com and look at last week's archive and look in the comments section. There is a link to the messageboard that I'm talking about.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Thats all well and good, but that doesn't explain the identical Accord-like profile, not the rear that looks really similar to the Si concept.

Andre
05-31-2005, 06:42 PM
It's not a Nissan, please link me in

jro4566
05-31-2005, 07:38 PM
It's virtually impossible for this to be a Nissan - this design is more on the conservative side of the spectrum compared to Nissan's latest entries into the market.

superset
05-31-2005, 07:51 PM
here's the link to the message board. be aware that there are many replies so you'll have to go through most of them to get more info. i frankly don't care for nissan or honda but anywho... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/driver.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><A HREF="http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=347007" TARGET="_blank">http://www.vtec.net/news/news-...47007</A>

Andre
05-31-2005, 08:31 PM
ok, the silver car there, and the white car being shown as the Nissan are two different cars. They confirmed down at the bottom (as I did over a month ago when the first shots of that car were emailed to me with a question mark) That the car they were confusing it with is a Nissan Teana, (why it's in North America I don't know)<p>The Teana is testing in Arizona, the Silver one was caught in Illinois. Trust me on this, the Silver car denotes a very "honda" design language. I've been doing this for over three years and I know my stuff, ignore the stupid Honda fans trying to insult Nissan by confusing the New Accord as theirs.<p>Two different places<br>Two different design languages<br>Two different cars<p>The silver one is an Accord.<p>Baaah

Uberwagon
06-01-2005, 10:09 PM
I'm not sure what white car you are refering to but I can confirm that these two blurred pics of a silver car in a parking lot ARE the 2006 Accord. The current rear has been criticised from day one so the MMC reflects this, as does the addition of larger 17-inch wheels on EX models and upgraded horsepower in both 4-cyl and V6 engines.

Bass-o-Matic
06-02-2005, 08:24 AM
<B>Here's explanation from TOV, from a pretty sharp guy who knows his stuff:</B><p>"Okay, this is the third time I've tried to post this, so... here goes. <p>The white car shot in Phoenix? That looks like this car: <br><A HREF="http://news.auto.cz/?sekce=foto&ga_uid=GI_41f9f4d4de760&ga_id=GH_41f9f4d4c60bc" TARGET="_blank">http://news.auto.cz/?sekce=fot...c60bc</A> <p>It's a Samsung SM5 or SM7. Samsung is owned by Renault, and it's whole automotive history, it's been building Nissan products for Korean market consumption (though they really wanted to import to the U.S.)... The SM5 and SM7 are based on the Nissan Teana, which is an Asian Market-only sedan based on the same FF-L platform (Front Engine/Front Drive-Large Car) that is the basis for the Altima, Maxima as well as the Quest & Murano. They are known to be trying to rationalize variations between Nissan, Renault and Samsung, so it could be some sign of that (though I'm pretty sure that Nissan would never adopt a Korean company's product for it's mainstream sedan in any important market). <p>Anyway, if you look at it, I think you'll agree that this makes sense, if only because of the strong similarities here (greenhouse, taillamp shape, as well as the mention that the taillamps looked like they were mimicking LED graphics, if not actual LED, themselves). <p>The car in Minnesota (the blurry images), I don't know. There is precedent for Honda to do a major change to rear end design with the mid-cycle for the 94-97 Accord, which had consumer clinic respondents complaining about how short and/or small the trunk looked. But, still, this looks pretty major, especially since it looks like they might have had to change the major body side panel (or "aperture") stamping to get the change in tail lamp. That would be pretty unusual (not even that 94-97 Accord did that at Minor Model Change). <p>In any case, that's a pretty big catch... can't wait to see what it is."<p><B>That was followed up by this:</B><p>"Here's a rear shot of the Nissan Teana... <p><A HREF="http://pickap.spb.ru/169/image/teana/teana10.gif" TARGET="_blank">http://pickap.spb.ru/169/image/teana/teana10.gif</A> <p>I think this is it. AND, Nissan wouldn't have any problem rationalizing Teana and Altima into one car... "

JBlair
06-02-2005, 08:39 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CarpFan</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><B>Here's explanation from TOV, from a pretty sharp guy who knows his stuff:</B><p>"Okay, this is the third time I've tried to post this, so... here goes. <p>The white car shot in Phoenix? That looks like this car: <br><A HREF="http://news.auto.cz/?sekce=foto&ga_uid=GI_41f9f4d4de760&ga_id=GH_41f9f4d4c60bc" TARGET="_blank">http://news.auto.cz/?sekce=fot...c60bc</A> <p>It's a Samsung SM5 or SM7. Samsung is owned by Renault, and it's whole automotive history, it's been building Nissan products for Korean market consumption (though they really wanted to import to the U.S.)... The SM5 and SM7 are based on the Nissan Teana, which is an Asian Market-only sedan based on the same FF-L platform (Front Engine/Front Drive-Large Car) that is the basis for the Altima, Maxima as well as the Quest & Murano. They are known to be trying to rationalize variations between Nissan, Renault and Samsung, so it could be some sign of that (though I'm pretty sure that Nissan would never adopt a Korean company's product for it's mainstream sedan in any important market). <p>Anyway, if you look at it, I think you'll agree that this makes sense, if only because of the strong similarities here (greenhouse, taillamp shape, as well as the mention that the taillamps looked like they were mimicking LED graphics, if not actual LED, themselves). <p>The car in Minnesota (the blurry images), I don't know. There is precedent for Honda to do a major change to rear end design with the mid-cycle for the 94-97 Accord, which had consumer clinic respondents complaining about how short and/or small the trunk looked. But, still, this looks pretty major, especially since it looks like they might have had to change the major body side panel (or "aperture") stamping to get the change in tail lamp. That would be pretty unusual (not even that 94-97 Accord did that at Minor Model Change). <p>In any case, that's a pretty big catch... can't wait to see what it is."<p><B>That was followed up by this:</B><p>"Here's a rear shot of the Nissan Teana... <p><A HREF="http://pickap.spb.ru/169/image/teana/teana10.gif" TARGET="_blank">http://pickap.spb.ru/169/image/teana/teana10.gif</A> <p>I think this is it. AND, Nissan wouldn't have any problem rationalizing Teana and Altima into one car... "</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Isn't that what Andre already posted?

Bass-o-Matic
06-02-2005, 11:23 AM
Manner of speaking, yes.<p>Two reasons why I posted that:<br>1. There seemed to still be some question of the white car, even though the answer was there in the link to TOV's thread on the same subject that another CSS poster had provided (you'll have to take my word for this; the TOV poster had it right, in more ways than one);<br>2. The TOV poster's explanation of why the silver car could, in fact, be the Accord (with reference to historic examples of fairly involved Accord MMC programs) was spot on. In fact, more than anything, it was something that, to my knowledge, nobody had noted in our thread. To wit, it wouldn't be that unheard-of for Honda to fanny-tuck the Accord in response to Market feedback. The one thing that is fairly interesting about this, is that this particular car, as the TOV poster noted, seems to have had pretty significant change to it's aperture stamping, not a small issue.<p>So, to your question, yes and no. Unless I'm missing something here, this was still a relevant post.<p>Thanks

nismo
06-02-2005, 11:37 AM
I can't wait for this Accord to come out. The coupe like rear end will help its look out alot.<p>the blurry silver one is the Accord.... the white one testing the next altima under teana body...

knicks125
06-02-2005, 12:13 PM
I am looking forward to how this will turn out...<p>Honda needs desepartely the release of new models (doesn't matter what they are, just get one out), as its latest sales figure shown its aged lineup.

AM2
06-02-2005, 12:19 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Andre</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's an Accord. The trunk is straight from the Inspire (Asian version of the USDM Accord), except minus the bar lights, this is not the Civic.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Here is the current <B>2005 Honda Inspire</B>. (similar lights to the 2004 USDM Accord)<br><IMG SRC="http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/inspire/style/eternalblue-p/eternalblue-p.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><B>2005 USDM Accord</B><br><IMG SRC="http://automobiles.honda.com/images/banners/2005/accord_sedan/exterior_gallery/large19.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Here is the current <B>ASEAN Honda Accord</B><br><IMG SRC="http://www.motioncars.com/autobuzz/articles29/honda_accord_thai_03.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>The USDM Accord and JDM Inspire use similar trunks, The ASEAN Accord has shorter lights and has a larger space for the license plates. The rear corner lights whether 2 tone or all-red have the same shapes.<p><br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by AM2 at 3:35 AM 6/3/2005</i>

JBlair
06-02-2005, 12:40 PM
He's talking about the actual trunk: look at the backlight, its almost identical.

AM2
06-02-2005, 12:46 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">He's talking about the actual trunk: look at the backlight, its almost identical. </TD></TR></TABLE><br><IMG SRC="http://home.comcast.net/~ntice368/honda_2.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>what part of the trunk is similar to the Inspire? <B>The third brake light?</B><br><IMG SRC="http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/inspire/style/eternalblue-p/eternalblue-p.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>

JBlair
06-02-2005, 12:51 PM
Yes. Its called many things; third brake light, back light, etc. But its actually the CHMSL, or Center High Mounted Stop Light.

Andre
06-02-2005, 03:18 PM
CHMSL and rear window are identical. The Trunk's skin changed a little. I was saying it's not a Civic unless the Civic is going for the Shrunken Accord wook (which we know it's not)<p>Besides, we've seen the Civic sedan in spy shots, the tail looks nothing like that.

Uberwagon
06-02-2005, 04:03 PM
Yes, the new Civic sedan's rear will look very similar to the new A4's (pure coincidence and an evolution of the current sedan's design). The new Civic coupe, however (as seen on the Chicago concept) is much more consistent with the updated '06 Accord tail treatment.<p>If there is any question (and if I am not to be believed), note the Ohio manufacturer plate: All major US engineering is done at Honda's engineering HQ there.<p>

gkracer98
06-02-2005, 08:54 PM
i wish that the Honda North America website would give a little bit more info on whats being changed for the 06 accord other than new front and rear, i mean we are half way though 2005

Jordmaniac
06-03-2005, 05:48 AM
ok, look at a side profile picture of the current civic and compare it to the spy shot. they are almost the same size. the back screams si concept anydangway. i <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bowdown.gif" BORDER="0"> to this accord, civic, or whatever it is. ya know, this could also be a new model for honda. maybe have a wheelbase based on the acura tsx.

AM2
06-03-2005, 01:10 PM
Its not a Civic, thats for sure. There is a bigger chance that its the facelifted Accord.<p>By the way, check out this chop at member photoshops...<br>

Chris_Doane
06-16-2005, 10:34 AM
New spy pics of the '06 Accord with almost no camo:<p><A HREF="http://sohc.vtec.net/news_files/362191/06acc_cd02.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://sohc.vtec.net/news_file...2.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://sohc.vtec.net/news_files/362191/06acc_cd06.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://sohc.vtec.net/news_file...6.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://sohc.vtec.net/news_files/362191/06acc_cd08.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://sohc.vtec.net/news_file...8.jpg</A><p>Story: <A HREF="http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=362191" TARGET="_blank">http://www.vtec.net/news/news-...62191</A><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Santeno at 1:39 PM 6/16/2005</i>

nismo
06-16-2005, 10:50 AM
Big improvement. The rear end looks way better.<p>I wonder when they're going to release it?

against the wall
06-16-2005, 10:53 AM
looks like LED taillights

Player4
06-16-2005, 10:55 AM
WOW looka amazing!!! Looks like the current S-Class, very well done!!!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/banana.gif" BORDER="0">

Redline
06-16-2005, 11:07 AM
Looks pretty good. Nothing special, other than the LED tails, but still a good looking car.

zwei Biere bitte
06-16-2005, 11:07 AM
Yeah, that does look pretty nice! I'm glad Honda finally sorted out the busy rear end that is on the current gen. And the LEDs look pretty tight too...

JBlair
06-16-2005, 01:20 PM
The shape of the rear and of the lights (viewed from the side) look identical to the Ford Fusion/Mercury Milan. (moreso the Milan)

HondaTech
06-16-2005, 03:05 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>nismo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wonder when they're going to release it?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Sept '05

Charger
06-16-2005, 03:43 PM
They needed to change the front too

LEXUS FAN!
06-16-2005, 04:13 PM
it is greatly improved...at least the back<p>nice LED taillights<p>it looks longer and it looks like the C-pillar is changed

Redline
06-16-2005, 06:25 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Charger</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They needed to change the front too</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The front is changed, only slightly though. If you'll notice, the front bumper has had some changes in the lower grill and the area around it. It looks more like the Accord Coupe now. Kind of like the tail lights similar looking, but different from the Coupe.

against the wall
06-16-2005, 06:40 PM
speakin of the coupe r they changing that also?

jro
06-16-2005, 07:31 PM
in the fuzzy picture, the car has dual exhaust. the newer photos have single exhaust. which model has dual exhaust?

Chris_Doane
06-16-2005, 08:55 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jro</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">in the fuzzy picture, the car has dual exhaust. the newer photos have single exhaust. which model has dual exhaust?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The V6 model.

AM2
06-17-2005, 02:06 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Redline</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>The front is changed, only slightly though. If you'll notice, the front bumper has had some changes in the lower grill and the area around it. It looks more like the Accord Coupe now. Kind of like the tail lights similar looking, but different from the Coupe.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Will the ASEAN Accord get a similar facelift, or is this an independent USDM-only facelift?<p>By the way, front has a similar look to the ASEAN Accord(USDM version still has smaller airdam though).<br><IMG SRC="http://www.motioncars.com/archive/february_2005/coty/coty_02.jpg" BORDER="0">

FSI
06-17-2005, 09:23 AM
In this pic: <A HREF="http://sohc.vtec.net/news_files/362191/06acc_cd08.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://sohc.vtec.net/news_file...8.jpg</A> <p>Does the silver Accord in the front have 9-spoke alloy wheels, or is it just me? It looks really nice. The 06' Accord looks a lot like the TL.

Rugbyplaya91
06-17-2005, 04:36 PM
this rear looks a lot like the last gen coupe.

the_saint
06-17-2005, 05:36 PM
<A HREF="http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=362191" TARGET="_blank">http://www.vtec.net/news/news-...62191</A><p><br>I am not impressed at all.. the press release from hnda said ``substantial'' modifications to its Accord model. the front end basically looks the same... the design still looks boring...<p>if those spy shots of the camry are real then I think honda is going to have a very hard time against toyota..

autodanse
06-17-2005, 11:06 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>the_saint</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><A HREF="http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=362191" TARGET="_blank">http://www.vtec.net/news/news-...62191</A><p><br>I am not impressed at all.. the press release from hnda said ``substantial'' modifications to its Accord model. the front end basically looks the same... the design still looks boring...<p>if those spy shots of the camry are real then I think honda is going to have a very hard time against toyota..</TD></TR></TABLE><p>its a pretty substantial "refresh" nevertheless. besides a brand new accord is on its way, so the camry wont be the newest fish in the pond for very long

the_saint
06-18-2005, 05:47 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>autodanse</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its a pretty substantial "refresh" nevertheless. besides a brand new accord is on its way, so the camry wont be the newest fish in the pond for very long</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I was under the impression that this was to be the Redesigned/New model not a refresh/update... I guess I was wrong.<br>Hmm when is the new accord you speak of being released; 2006 as a 2007 model or 2007 as a 2008 model???<br>Doesn't the new camry come out later this year?? So the new model accord you speak of will be out next year one year after the camry? If so, honda will need to think outside the box and get away from their boring design. Like someone on this forum said "hondas design is just as boring as buick"<p><br>If Honda plans on a new accord for next year why bother with doing a refresh if the front still looks so so? Should they not have done it last year?<p>also the back of the redesign IMO does not fit the front. look at the side shot the back look irregular.<p>

Andre
06-18-2005, 09:43 AM
The Accord was redone for 2003, this is its minor refresh as its only been on the market for 3 years. It's addressing some of the issues the car for the last three years had. In 2008 it will get a substantial redo.

mzoltarp
06-18-2005, 01:29 PM
Arguably the tail of the current Accord was too Buick-esque and Honda dealt with that. Bland sells. The Accord will continue to be a popular vehicle.

the_saint
06-18-2005, 02:17 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Andre</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Accord was redone for 2003, this is its minor refresh as its only been on the market for 3 years. It's addressing some of the issues the car for the last three years had. In 2008 it will get a substantial redo.</TD></TR></TABLE><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0"> you are right I forgot the accord was just redesigned in 2003... the bland design had me thinking is came out 5 years ago...<p><br>So did honda refresh the interior too.... or is it only the exterior..<br>

SV
06-18-2005, 05:56 PM
there might be some interior changes, although the interior is arguably the best part of the accord.

the_saint
06-18-2005, 06:54 PM
I agree<p>The only thing I don't like about the interior is the shift knob IMO it should look more elegant....

Chris_Doane
06-18-2005, 07:13 PM
2 new pics including the V6 model;<br><A HREF="http://www.honda-acura.net/index.php?categoryid=1&p2_articleid=183" TARGET="_blank">http://www.honda-acura.net/ind...d=183</A>

Nurburgring
06-18-2005, 08:04 PM
Looks like the V6 won't have Fog lights too. Look at the fog light part and you can see no fog light.Damn, I always wanted the fog light to be standard on da V6 at least.<br>My dad's gonna replace his Infiniti G35 next year for a cheaper car. He's thinkin of the new Hyundai Azera or the 06 Accord V6.

Andre
06-18-2005, 10:07 PM
Honda offers fog lights on all cars, but it's always a dealer-installed extra, not factory installed

Uberwagon
06-20-2005, 12:48 AM
Yes, this is what is termed as a "MMC": Minor Model Change. Horsepower is upgraded by 10 in each model (4 & 6 cyl.) and wheels are an inch larger. Interior sees minor trim change, nothing too substantial. The big change, as is obvious now in the pics, is the rear-end. Consumer clinics done by product planning heard constant criticism of the tail treatment since day-one. As a result, this has been planned since the beggining but with sales lagging, has taken on added urgency.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Santeno at 10:10 AM 6/20/2005</i>

the_saint
06-20-2005, 07:34 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Uberwagon</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes, this is what is termed as a "MMC": Minor Model Change. Horsepower is upgraded by 10 in each model (4 & 6 cyl.) and wheels are an inch larger. Interior sees minor trim change, nothing too substantial. The big change, as is obvious now in the pics, is the rear-end. Consumer clinics done by product planning heard constant criticism of the tail treatment since day-one. As a result, this has been planned since the beggining but with sales lagging, has taken on added urgency.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>So are these changes only for the sedan .. because IMO the rear end of the coupe looked ok...<p><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Santeno at 10:53 AM 6/20/2005</i>

Charger
08-12-2005, 11:35 AM
<A HREF="http://sohc.vtec.net/news_files/389137/06acc_cpe-01.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://sohc.vtec.net/news_file...1.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://sohc.vtec.net/news_files/389137/06acc_cpe-02.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://sohc.vtec.net/news_file...2.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://sohc.vtec.net/news_files/389137/06acc_cpe-03.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://sohc.vtec.net/news_file...3.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://sohc.vtec.net/news_files/389137/06acc_cpe-04.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://sohc.vtec.net/news_file...4.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://sohc.vtec.net/news_files/389137/06acc_cpe-05.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://sohc.vtec.net/news_file...5.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://sohc.vtec.net/news_files/389137/06acc_cpe-06.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://sohc.vtec.net/news_file...6.jpg</A>

LEXUS FAN!
08-12-2005, 11:52 AM
i can't see them

Ferrarif430man
08-13-2005, 09:31 PM
me neither

roomwithaview
08-13-2005, 09:35 PM
just hit enter in the address bar to reload the image and it should work.

knicks125
08-13-2005, 09:53 PM
You have to go to the website to view them, restrictions prevent them to be view externally.<p>Here is the link:<p><A HREF="http://www.vtec.net/news/news-item?news_item_id=389137" TARGET="_blank">http://www.vtec.net/news/news-...89137</A><p>BTW, there is a thread in the new cars section which shows a link to the car without cover scanned from a honda brochure,<p>here is the link in case anyone's interested <B>(including new updates on the interior)</B>:<p><A HREF="http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=16190" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=16190</A><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by knicks125 at 1:49 PM 8/14/2005</i>