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davidChief
03-20-2005, 05:20 AM
<A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/F/ford/03-large/Ford-Focus-RS-02.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/m...2.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/F/ford/03-large/Ford-Focus-RS-05.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/m...5.jpg</A><p>Spy Shot: Ford Focus RS <br>When Ford launched its 220bhp Focus ST at the Geneva show, company officials were keeping schtum about an even hotter RS version in the pipeline. But now we've caught the flagship model undergoing cold-weather testing. Whilst the ST, which arrives in late 2005, gets 220bhp from Volvo's turbocharged five-cylinder 2.5-litre engine and is more powerful than the previous-generation Focus RS (200 bhp), the RS will be quicker still, with the T5 unit tuned for a good 250 bhp-plus and fitted in combination with the Volvo AWD system. <p>Like its earlier namesake, and forebears such as the Sierra RS Cosworth, expect the latest RS to take its inspiration from the newest Ford WRC car, which makes its debut in 2006. The previous Focus RS got many race-spec parts - Sachs dampers, Brembo brakes, Sparco seats, OZ Racing alloys, a Garrett turbocharger and AP clutch to name a few - so we'd expect this top-dog Focus to bring much of the rallying experience to the road. We don't predict a tacky bodykit and a huge wing, though: like the previous RS, it will probably remain reasonably understated. <p><A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/gallery/spyshots-2005/F/ford/focus-rs_page_5.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/g....html</A><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Ascariss at 12:10 PM 3/20/2005</i>

mzoltarp
03-20-2005, 05:43 AM
Damn the luck of the Euros! They get a good Focus and we get the Ford Blur by comparison. Just ain't fair!

against the wall
03-20-2005, 07:18 AM
is ford even planning to bring this 2 the us? it would be pretty stupid to not bring it in. i mean a 250hp focus? street racers would have a lot of fun "trickin" out this car.

Redline
03-20-2005, 09:32 AM
Street racers would be too cheap to buy this probably. Though I do wish they would bring this here, even though the back end doesn't look that great.

Tidal
03-20-2005, 01:09 PM
If by tacky they mean the Escort Rs Cosworth rear wing, i wish they do go tacky. That thing still looks amazing today. I read rumors about this getting a 300hp engine though ( The Volvo R unit ), to really make it compete with the Evo and Sti...

Hornbag
03-21-2005, 12:29 AM
OMG, that would be amazing!

bolita
03-21-2005, 08:20 AM
This is the car I've waiting to see. I really hope that they decide to go more mainstream with the RS and offer it the world over as MMC and Subaru do with their versions...

Hornbag
03-21-2005, 11:59 PM
Finally Ford might do something right, bring this worldwide and then Ford will have another image maker! The Mustang, GT-40 and then the Focus RS!

Santeno
06-03-2005, 08:32 AM
Here is a new article and a picture from autocar magazine:<p><IMG SRC="http://www.autocar.co.uk/Car/Ford/Focus/2655425491.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><u>Ford plans hottest hatch of all</u><br> <br>Ford is rumoured to be considering a 350bhp, four-wheel-drive, six-cylinder turbocharged proposal for the next-generation Focus RS. Right now the Blue Ovals executives at the companys headquarters in Cologne, Germany are considering a plan to fit Fords new flagship hot hatch, due out in 2007, with a new turbocharged in-line six-cylinder engine.<p>The advanced powerplant (right) has been developed by Volvo as a replacement for the Swedish car makers current six-cylinder engine, and is planned to make its debut in the new S80 due out next June.<p>Conceived for both transverse and longitudinal applications, the four-valve-per-cylinder unit is based around a die-cast aluminium cylinder block for an all-up weight of 180kg. It is also claimed to be 1mm shorter than Volvos five-cylinder engine  a feature that makes it suitable for a whole range of different models, including the new Focus RS.<p>Three different versions of the engine are planned: a base naturally aspirated 3.2-litre and a pair of performance-oriented turbocharged 3.0-litre units. The former receives variable cam timing (VCT) on the inlet valves, with the latter two adopting a system operating both the inlet and exhaust valves as well as a variable-vane Garrett turbocharger.<p>In 3.2-litre guise, the new six-cylinder produces 235bhp at 6000rpm along with 236lb ft of torque at 3500rpm  an increase of 38bhp and 26lb ft over Volvos current 2.9-litre engine. The turbocharged units deliver 285bhp and 295lb ft in light-pressure guise, with the high-pressure unit pumping out a BMW M3-beating 350bhp and 332lb ft.<p>Its this latter specification that Fords Motorsport boss, Jost Capito, may use to thrust the Blue Oval back to the very top of the European hot-hatch ranks. If Fords plans come to fruition, the new RS will boast a whopping 133bhp and 96lb ft more than the upcoming Focus ST, whose turbocharged 2.5-litre five-cylinder engine generates 217bhp along with 236lb ft of torque.<p>Unlike the front-wheel-drive ST, the new RS is being developed around new four-wheel-drive underpinnings. This promises to endow it with spectacular levels of grip and traction. One problem, however, is the lack of a suitable six-speed manual transmission for the new car. The gearbox in the Mondeo ST TDCi is rated to 295lb ft, although insiders say measures are being taken to upgrade it for use in performance-oriented Volvos.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Here are 2 older pics that haven't been posted here before:<p><A HREF="http://members.home.nl/talon/Industriepool%2012%20April/photos/IMG_3142.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://members.home.nl/talon/I...2.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://members.home.nl/talon/Industriepool%2012%20April/photos/IMG_3143.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://members.home.nl/talon/I...3.jpg</A><br>

bolita
06-03-2005, 11:09 AM
Wow, 3.0L turbo sounds sweet. Whatever happened with the FIA rule that road going cars had to be produced at least in a volume of 2500 for use (with similar powertrain) for WRC use?

~*~STORM~*~
06-04-2005, 10:33 PM
The last 2 pictures of the white focus in Santeno's post are the St version mates.<p><A HREF="http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame.php?file=pic.php&imagenum=2&carnum=2229" TARGET="_blank">http://www.ultimatecarpage.com...=2229</A><p><A HREF="http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame.php?file=pic.php&imagenum=3&carnum=2229" TARGET="_blank">http://www.ultimatecarpage.com...=2229</A>

Pavilion
06-05-2005, 12:26 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mzoltarp</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Damn the luck of the Euros! They get a good Focus and we get the Ford Blur by comparison. Just ain't fair!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>That is the funniest, but true, thing I have heard all day. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/driver.gif" BORDER="0">

r3vilo
06-05-2005, 08:55 AM
350 bhp? thats crazy...

fippsey
03-01-2006, 09:50 AM
<A HREF="http://www.autocar.co.uk/News_Article.asp?NA_ID=215449&EL_ID=3127588&ST=fromcurrentresults" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autocar.co.uk/News_...sults</A><p><A HREF="http://imageshack.us" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/4174/untitled5cy.png" BORDER="0"></A><p><A HREF="http://imageshack.us" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img303.imageshack.us/img303/6663/26554254914dl.jpg" BORDER="0"></A><p><A HREF="http://imageshack.us" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/3363/574434038ma.jpg" BORDER="0"></A><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by fippsey at 9:21 AM 3/1/2006</i>

bolita
03-01-2006, 11:09 AM
fippsey,<p>This article was posted 7 months ago... nothing new here.. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0">

CosworthKid
03-02-2006, 12:35 PM
Hehe, yeah mate u nearly gave me a heartattack! Still no RS then...sniff

fippsey
03-02-2006, 03:01 PM
yeah sorry bout that tho ....how a missed the tread a will neva no hehe <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0">

DSC-OFF
04-12-2006, 10:15 AM
<A HREF="http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/picture_library/dir_50/car_portal_pic_25095.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/p...5.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.autoexpress.co.uk" TARGET="_blank">AutoExpress</A><br> <br>

CosworthKid
04-12-2006, 11:26 AM
Just went through the magazine on my way back home. The pics shown are pretty much the same as the ones taken a while ago so i wasn't tempted to buy the mag and scan the pics. The article has a statement from Ford boss saying that its still uncertain whether this will ever be made, but they will keep developing the car since the RS is always on everyones wish list and they didnt want to cancel it completely or stop working on it. Main concern as always is the high asking price of a possible production model which makes this hard to be given the green light. AutoExpress claims that if this will get the go-ahead, it will be around the end of the Mk2 Focus life circle, around 2008, and will have a 25.000 price tag. Also claims it will have the current ST 2.5 5cylinder turbo Volvo engine which will produce an excess of 300bhp and use Volvo's 4x4 setup as used on the R versions of the S60. Let's wait and see..<p>ps: isnt 2008 too early to be talking about "end of life circle" for the Mk2?

DSC-OFF
04-19-2006, 02:58 PM
<A HREF="http://www.americancarfans.com/spyphotos/6060418.001/6060418.001.mini1L.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.americancarfans.com...L.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.americancarfans.com/spyphotos/6060418.001/6060418.001.mini2L.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.americancarfans.com...L.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.americancarfans.com/spyphotos/6060418.001/6060418.001.mini3L.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.americancarfans.com...L.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos.cfm/country/acf/spyphotoID/6060418.001/ford/ford-focus-rs-first-photos" TARGET="_blank">ACF</A><br> <br>

Hornbag
04-22-2006, 04:30 AM
I only just notised this thread. Same picture, well similar to a few I've seen. But I truly recon Ford need this car. The Focus XR5T/ST is an amzing car, but it's not going to ever be a proper RS replacement is it? No way. <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by AM2K at 4:16 PM 10/19/2006</i>

fippsey
10-19-2006, 07:53 AM
just found new images of the ford focus RS<br>i have looked to see if there is an existing thread but could not find one.<p><A HREF="http://www.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos.cfm/country/acf/spyphotoID/6061019.001/ford/spy-photos-ford-focus-rs" TARGET="_blank">http://www.worldcarfans.com/sp...us-rs</A><p><A HREF="http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g73/fippsey/car.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i53.photobucket.com/alb...r.jpg</A><p><I>EDIT: Please do not post images, and only post links</I><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by AM2K at 4:25 PM 10/19/2006</i>

Roadster44
10-19-2006, 08:00 AM
Forget R32, I'd rather have this!

fippsey
10-19-2006, 08:11 AM
once this comes out it will be the king of "hot hatchs" <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bowdown.gif" BORDER="0">

AM2K
10-19-2006, 08:22 AM
Threads merged together <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Interesting to see this car might be back in development. The last I heard was that the earlier 'RS' cars snapped merely prototypes that were being used to test a new Volvo Engine. And to add to this, the RS project was mothballed and put on the back burner since it wasn't a high priority..<p>But if the project has been restarted, thats good to hear. This car has a lot of potential and could really boost Ford's image <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/driver.gif" BORDER="0">

CosworthKid
10-19-2006, 03:57 PM
At some other forum people seem to be dissmising these photos as just the TDCi ST, hence the badges at the rear. But i think it might be a test mule for an RS as well, and notice how the headlamps are dark on this one where on the normal ST they are clear. It would be strange if they made the diesel ST look meaner than the petrol one...but still.

protocatcher
10-20-2006, 12:19 AM
This was no diesel ST, clearly a mule for the RS. I shot the pics and heard the lovely sound of it .

CosworthKid
10-20-2006, 05:34 AM
Thats great news then. But why hasnt Ford said anything about bringing the RS back for sure? Could they still be testing the engine etc for a possible version of the next Mk3 Focus?

Roadster44
10-20-2006, 08:46 AM
Recall that Ford tested an MKI 300hp AWD Focus in US. Yet they never expressed an intention of selling such a model. Platform allowed for such flexibility. (There are even modified RWD Foci out there) Anyways, Ford is known for testing products that never market to showrooms, X-Type R for example.

AM2K
10-20-2006, 08:46 AM
I wonder if this could be another mule testing the Volvo engine and transmission? I personally hope it is an RS or Cosworth edition though...<br>

Shomare
10-20-2006, 05:05 PM
Rumor had it that the RS had an all wheel drive platform with the same power plant as the S60R making 300 bhp.

Hornbag
10-21-2006, 03:55 AM
I'd expect they would change the front a bit, no? Still this could just be a mule. I wonder if the devil will buy my soul in return for this car, because a new Focus RS would be sensational. Image wise, and class wise.

CosworthKid
10-21-2006, 05:58 AM
Of course this is just a mule (if it is an RS). Trust me it wont look anything like an ST. And in response to Shomare's comment: of course the RS will have 4wheel drive, there was never a doubt about that. Unlike Vauxhall, Ford DOES no how to make proper sports hatches and anything above the ST's 220bhp demands 4x4 drive for them <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0"> As for the Volvo engine it is very likely it will be the one under the bonnet, yes

Hornbag
10-22-2006, 03:12 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CosworthKid</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Unlike Vauxhall, Ford DOES no how to make proper sports hatches and anything above the ST's 220bhp demands 4x4 drive for them.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Just so you don't get bashed for saying that, just thought I'd back up what your saying with some facts. Pretty much all reviews have said the sporty Astra cars have far too much power and not enough fine tuning to handle all their power. I believe TopGear really disliked the car as they thought they just chucked in heaps of power and expected a great car.<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

AM2K
10-22-2006, 07:39 AM
An interesting comment, because Lotus did mention that they could have cancelled out the torque-steer (a side effect of having too much power throuhg the front wheels), but decided to leave it in since it was more of a 'hardcore' car and didn't wanna tone it down...<p>But alas, i'm sure the RS will be punching much higher and maybe ming for the likes of the Impreza maybe?

CosworthKid
10-22-2006, 08:44 AM
Yeah thanks mate for filling the gaps. Its true, FWD with so much torgue oversteer well... Thats why Ford takes ages to come up with a Focus ST or an RS, it needs to be as perfect as they can make it to be

protocatcher
10-26-2006, 08:27 AM
More Focus RS pics at <A HREF="http://www.carspynews.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carspynews.com</A><br>

CosworthKid
10-26-2006, 08:37 AM
Cool thanks <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0">

bolita
10-26-2006, 09:17 AM
Seeing what Ford Europe has been coming up with, I wouldn't expect anything but a new RS.<p>Of course, I hope it is made available at least in some markets this side of the pond <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

thedesigner
10-29-2006, 11:56 AM
I thinks it's important to bear in mind 300hp from a fwd is not out of the realm of possiblities. Although not dynamically ideal, 250hp FWD performance cars have been around for a decade. The fact that Dodge is going forward with a 300hp FWD SRT-4 shows that big auto makers are still seeing the benefit of simplicity over performance... the compromise just isn't that much. The new Mazda with 260 some-odd seems to handle its beans just fine. Another 40hp isn't going to destroy that car, why should it ruin the simliar if not superior Euro RS Focus? Ideally, Ford can make a sub-$30k, AWD, 300HP monster and show up VW's jelly-bean porker while giving Subie & Mitsu something to think about. For any more than that I'd start thinking about waiting for an updated Z, a new Supra, or the new G35-coupe. I know they're not direct competitors but at 35k they are.

CosworthKid
10-29-2006, 12:16 PM
Mate we are talking about a Focus here. Its a much much smaller vehicle (than the Dodge) and trust me 300bhp and FWD on such a car is pure suicide. And even if possible what about the massive torque understeer? What about the handling? The drive? There is absolutely no way the Focus RS will be FWD and i am adamant on this. The Alfa 147 GTA and the Vauxhall Astra VXR are the highest output small hatches available in FWD and BOTH have all the problems mentioned before and neither drive better nor are better performance choices than the much lesser (in bhp) Focus ST or VW Golf GTi cause they got far too much power going through the front wheels.<br>Ford is legendary for its hot hatches and they wont release a car such as the RS unless its as close to perfect as they can make it, and that goes for the whole package and not just bhp output. Just trust me on this ok? No one will make a FWD Focus RS with 300bhp..and if they did no one would buy it<p>ps:no offence but European standards in this sector are much higher than NA. A car that might be deemed great for NA market is usually something that would go fast, have massive bhp and sells for peanuts. In Europe a car should have a competitive price but it also must be as good as it gets in every sector. We pay more than a Focus ST here than u guys pay for a Mustang GT if im not mistaken.

fippsey
10-30-2006, 02:21 PM
haha yes a mustang gt sell for about 18,000 <p>focus rs will cost bout 25,000<br>a would still pay that for it though

CosworthKid
10-30-2006, 03:36 PM
Yeah me too <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/driver.gif" BORDER="0">

CosworthKid
02-08-2007, 10:00 AM
<A HREF="http://www.autocarmag.com/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/224098" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autocarmag.com/News...24098</A>/<p>Apparently the Focus RS is tipped to premier at next year's London show and its..*gasp*...said to be FWD despite it having to handle a massive 280bhp. It will have a similar limited slip differential setup as the last Focus RS to cope apparently<br>

CosworthKid
02-08-2007, 10:03 AM
<A HREF="http://www.autocar.co.uk/Home.aspx" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autocar.co.uk/Home.aspx</A><p>Scroll down for the cover of AUTOCAR

Hornbag
02-13-2007, 02:32 AM
Well the Focus (Euro model) facelift is due sometime soon so I'd expect Ford to hit us with an RS, well I'm hoping! But FWD, could it handle that power? Just the sound of FWD doesn't do the old RS and justice...

arumage
02-13-2007, 08:25 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hornbag</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well the Focus (Euro model) facelift is due sometime soon so I'd expect Ford to hit us with an RS, well I'm hoping! But FWD, could it handle that power? Just the sound of FWD doesn't do the old RS and justice...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The Mazdaspeed3 is sending 263hp to the front wheels with 280 ft. lbs. of torque. It gets the wheels spinning pretty good, but it puts up pretty decent numbers too, especially for the price.

CosworthKid
02-13-2007, 10:10 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>arumage</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>The Mazdaspeed3 is sending 263hp to the front wheels with 280 ft. lbs. of torque. It gets the wheels spinning pretty good, but it puts up pretty decent numbers too, especially for the price.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Not a good example. The Mazda got horrible reviews in some UK magazines. They do not handle that power impressively from what i read, just the opposite and even cars with much much less bhp like the Focus ST and Golf GTi are much better and faster. THAT is why Ford makes performance cars that really work well, in comparison to hot hatches and saloons from Mazda, Opel/Vauxhall and Alfa Romeo.<br>Ppl are often seduced by the numbers on paper and i even get a few ppl asking me "how come the ST only makes 220bhp while the Mazda3 over 260? Cant Ford do better?". Thats a completely wrong statement and that is why im hoping IF Ford goes ahead with a FWD RS they would have exhausted every possibility in order for it to become a legend <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

Hornbag
02-13-2007, 04:13 PM
It comnpletly slipped my mind that the Mazda3 MPS is front wheel drive!<p>I test drove the Mazda3 MPS two days ago and absolutly loved it, and although I'm no scientist wehen it comes to driving, honestly didn't pick it to be FWD! It was only eclipsed by the Mazda6 MPS. Australian journalists have loved the 3 MPS and even the fast Opel Astra had a great review. The Focus ST on the other hand had a good review, but journalists just didn't think as highly of it as the Mazda. If Mazda can make it work, I supose Ford with the same platfrom but different engine could...

CosworthKid
02-13-2007, 05:03 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hornbag</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Australian journalists have loved the 3 MPS and even the fast Opel Astra had a great review. The Focus ST on the other hand had a good review, but journalists just didn't think as highly of it as the Mazda....</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Didnt think of it as highly? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/werd.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>I think Australian journalists are biased then. Sorry but i just dont see how the MPS is better in anyt regard. Anyway this could turn into a very long discussion and its not the right place for it so i say back to topic <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/embeer.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>

arumage
02-15-2007, 07:03 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CosworthKid</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Not a good example. The Mazda got horrible reviews in some UK magazines. They do not handle that power impressively from what i read, just the opposite and even cars with much much less bhp like the Focus ST and Golf GTi are much better and faster. THAT is why Ford makes performance cars that really work well, in comparison to hot hatches and saloons from Mazda, Opel/Vauxhall and Alfa Romeo.<br>Ppl are often seduced by the numbers on paper and i even get a few ppl asking me "how come the ST only makes 220bhp while the Mazda3 over 260? Cant Ford do better?". Thats a completely wrong statement and that is why im hoping IF Ford goes ahead with a FWD RS they would have exhausted every possibility in order for it to become a legend <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>The only real criticism I've heard is that the midrange could use a bit of massaging to flatten out the torque curve. Since the Focus ST uses the Volvo 5-cyl, I'm sure it has a better torque curve.

CosworthKid
02-24-2007, 07:30 PM
These are extremely interesting and important scoops from member m-sport of FordEurope.net, he claims he is an engineer for teamRS<p><br><I>I work for Team RS in Germany as an engineer. <p>Yes there is going to be a slightly more powerful ST but it won't be as powerful as Autocar makes out due to it's front wheel drive configuration. <p>The RS has been in development for quite along time now and it will be using a brand new Volvo engine the SI6. The engine itself is only 1 millimetre longer than the 5 cylinder. <p>The car will be launched when it has the new corporate front of the new mondeo, another which will be getting the same engine as the RS. <p>The engine will be shared between the Volvo's and Ford's and may go into the new Freelander because that already has the 3.2 SI6 engine. <p>Due to these factors of sharing, we have got a powerful engine that will be in different cars which will keep production costs down.<p><br>Yes same engine as the new V70, but it is a single turbo the SI6 engine and not 3.2 litres. <p>Yes it will have 4 wheel drive and Yes the Mondeo will have the same setup as well. <p>4 wheel drive comes from Volvo. <p>If we were to bring the Mazda engine from Japan then costs would have gone up. Volvo has got the engine's and 4 wheel drive and as the V50, C30 and S40 is exactly the same as the Focus and the parts are being devoloped or have been developed in Europe why got outside Europe? <p>We also want to be in competition with the Evo's, Scoobies and Audi/VW<p>The 4 wheel drive is all new as well. <p>With car manufacturing when a new variant of that model comes out we begin work on the next new variant and this takes 5 or 6 years. <br>Most car manufacturers work in the same way. <p>Team RS is Prodrive and the mk1 Ford Focus RS was developed from the begining with Prodrive, Ford was'nt in trouble from the begining, alot of people look at it that way who are not involved in this industry. <p>We did have a 4 wheel drive version of the mk1 RS but the Accountants did their calculations and it would have cost around 40k to sell. I bet you know what happened next.</I>

Hornbag
02-24-2007, 09:36 PM
And from what he is saying it'll be AWD. Fantastic! Does anyone know when the facelft is due then, the C-Max has just got it's new look so a facelifted Focus and Cosworth could be in within one year or so?

CosworthKid
02-25-2007, 04:49 AM
Yeah the facelift should arrive by next year since 1)the C-Max already got it 2) the RS should be out before the new Focus (which is still due around 2010). This guy's info ,if indeed accurate, was a gem! 4x4 RS as we all wished for, brand new Volvo engine different from the ST and the Focus getting the Mondeo look (i wonder how the rear end will look with this new front from profile).<p>Im really excited! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/images/smilies/sponge.gif" BORDER="0">

AM2K
02-25-2007, 06:55 AM
The single turbo variant of the SI6 engine has been talked about before online and in magazines. The engineer's story definately makes sense. But from what i've heard, this project has been on the backburner for many years. It was only going to be greenlighted once the figures made sense and there was money to invest. The project was postponed in 05/0 for that very reason.<p>I guess with the mondeo out of the way and the Focus selling well, they might have given this the greenlight?<br>

CosworthKid
02-25-2007, 11:11 AM
Yes thats what we are hoping for. Ford cannot afford to play it safe in this segment, i mean even Renault has produced an R36 version that all UK magazines say its better than the ST, GTi, Type-R etc. Ford NEEDS the RS and screw the accountants. Its not right for a company such as Ford to have just ST models of 3 cars in their line-up. They need the RS, they need to make it a monster and forget about the Golf R version as well, we dont need luxuries just brute!! Hell even make em extremely limited in numbers for all i care!

Hornbag
02-25-2007, 02:29 PM
I think Ford have been waiting for the facelift all along to release this RS. Ford did the ST Fiesta right before they facelifted the Fiesta a year or so ago I think, and it kinda threw off the whole car for it was a few months old and then there was a new one. <p>I'm more worried about the facelift, which I think has the potentual to look like a mess.

AM2K
02-25-2007, 02:54 PM
I think the Focus RS should have been out a while ago from what i can tell. Its just been continually started and then stopped and then started and then stopped again. <p>Financially, Ford has not been in the best of shape for the past few years, and has chosen to get the mainstream models out. But now that Ford of Europe is making profit, they can finally start pumping some money into Team RS. <p>The SI6 engine is meant to be quite a beast of an engine too, and will be featuring in future Land Rover, Jaguar, and Volvo cars too. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>

CosworthKid
02-25-2007, 05:39 PM
Yep, and the excitement is even bigger since the Mondeo will be getting the RS treatement, AWD and all (always according to insider) <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/driver.gif" BORDER="0">

wildeye
04-13-2007, 11:36 AM
New Ford Focus RS from German "AutoBild SportsCars".<p><A HREF="http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/2135/focusio8.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img482.imageshack.us/im...8.jpg</A>

CosworthKid
04-16-2007, 11:18 AM
That looks like a second rate tuner job made on an ST. I hope the real car offers a lot more in the visual department than this

bolita
04-16-2007, 12:03 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CosworthKid</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That looks like a second rate tuner job made on an ST. I hope the real car offers a lot more in the visual department than this</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Actually that pix looks like a CGI off a Focus image I recall seing a while back....

CosworthKid
04-17-2007, 02:29 AM
Yes i know, if u read my comments on the Golf VI thread, i mentioned these were older AutoBild CG's, they just retouched them now claiming they are RS ones

fippsey
04-17-2007, 12:49 PM
hmm everything has gone quiet again on the spyshot front <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsad.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>no one herd or seen any mor einfo about it?

CosworthKid
04-18-2007, 02:03 AM
Ford has been extremely careful with all of their new and upcoming models, even when we see spy shots they will be extremely heavy camoed. Im hoping for a decent CG from Huckfeldt but it seems he doesnt get much insider info from Ford lately..

CosworthKid
05-25-2007, 12:58 AM
Here we go again: AutoExpress claims the new Focus RS has been canned..AGAIN! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/crying.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><A HREF="http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/208805/ford_focus_rs.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/n....html</A><p>. <B>According to our sources, the firm will not use the famous RS badge on the current or imminent facelifted MkII machine - due late in 2008 - because of concerns over CO2 emissions.<p>One potential RS customer, who had placed a deposit for the car at his local dealership, said: "I'd handed over the cash 18 months ago, not wanting to miss out. But I was told staff had to return it, as the project has been abandoned on environmental grounds."<p>A Ford spokesperson revealed: "Our commitment to performance cars meant that we did build a number of Focus engineering mules to test and develop high-performance parts for future products. Sadly, we never got to the point where we were ready to begin developing a business case for an RS-badged Focus."<p>Auto Express last scooped these cars in Issue 933. It's believed that prototypes offered around 300bhp and four-wheel drive. But the spokesperson was keen to dismiss the claim that the decision was eco-based.<p>"It's worth bearing in mind that it's not the green issue which is driving this decision - cars have to be profitable. While Britain is the home of RS, there's not enough interest across other markets for us to earn the kind of money that's going to give the vehicle a green light," said the spokesperson.<p>However, there is still hope for fast Ford fans. Potential RS versions of the MkIII Focus, due in 2010, are possible.</B>

CosworthKid
05-25-2007, 01:03 AM
This kills me im so sick and tired of Ford's BS excuses on the RS subject!! How come every other manufacturer can make uber-performance versions of their models yet Ford Europe, one of the most famous sporty heritage brands, makes up excuses after excuses about giving us 1 bloody RS version of the Focus? And to think just weeks ago they claimed not only for a Focus RS but also for Mondeo and Fiesta RS versions!!<p>This is pissing me off, i mean, who do we believe?<p>And AutoExpress story has a few holes in it as well: a customer gave a deposit for the RS 18 months ago?? wtf? Ford hadnt even confirmed the RS since a few weeks back and even that was done via supposed insiders..<p><br>EDIT: every member in FordEurope forums are laughing with this. They are sure its just AutoExpress crap and said we should wait and shortly official word from Ford should surfice about the RS

CosworthKid
05-25-2007, 01:14 AM
This is what member m-sport had to say (a guy "who is part of Ford TeamRS and the development of the RS) on FordEurope:<p>." <B>Thats total rubbish. Autoexpress is wrong again. <br>There is a big demand for the RS outside the UK. <p>The emissions is not a problem and we are still developing the car. <p>I don't know where Autoexpress gets its information but we know our customers are prepared to pay £25k+ for the car</B>

MitzXJ220
05-25-2007, 01:19 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CosworthKid</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">"It's worth bearing in mind that it's not the green issue which is driving this decision - cars have to be profitable. While Britain is the home of RS, there's not enough interest across other markets for us to earn the kind of money that's going to give the vehicle a green light," said the spokesperson.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>That was their excuse for canning the Fiesta ST.<p>If this turns out to be true Ford are making an extremely big mistake. They would have made a killing on RS sales as lots of people have been put off the Impreza since it was beaten with the ugly stick <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0">

CosworthKid
05-25-2007, 01:28 AM
I trust m-sport so im going to do this to the AutoExpress article---------&gt; <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/moon_1_D.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>..and hope Ford shows us something solid soon

Roadster44
05-25-2007, 05:46 AM
Environmental concern sounds like a poor excuse. After all R32 is there and whatever other hot hatches over 270hp.

Ark
05-25-2007, 08:53 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CosworthKid</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This kills me im so sick and tired of Ford's BS excuses on the RS subject!! How come every other manufacturer can make uber-performance versions of their models yet Ford Europe, one of the most famous sporty heritage brands, makes up excuses after excuses about giving us 1 bloody RS version of the Focus? And to think just weeks ago they claimed not only for a Focus RS but also for Mondeo and Fiesta RS versions!!<p>This is pissing me off, i mean, who do we believe?<p>And AutoExpress story has a few holes in it as well: a customer gave a deposit for the RS 18 months ago?? wtf? Ford hadnt even confirmed the RS since a few weeks back and even that was done via supposed insiders..<p><br>EDIT: every member in FordEurope forums are laughing with this. They are sure its just AutoExpress crap and said we should wait and shortly official word from Ford should surfice about the RS </TD></TR></TABLE><br>Hey, at least you guys get a good looking hatch and the ST. Here in America we are stuck with this ugly as sin coupe and sedan thats based on the OLD Focus.

CosworthKid
05-25-2007, 06:03 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Ark</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Hey, at least you guys get a good looking hatch and the ST. Here in America we are stuck with this ugly as sin coupe and sedan thats based on the OLD Focus. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Still not enough man, Europe is an extremely competitive hot-hatch market and Ford should have been ahead of the game instead of counting pennies. <br>I do get you though, but dont worry cause u guys will get the next gen of the Focus straight to the USA and the sporty versions will follow suit for sure <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

bolita
05-28-2007, 07:16 AM
I really think that now the RS will bow with the next Focus (C2) if at all.<p>The C1 could easily receive AWD and a high pressure 2.5 pumping 300HP.<p>Why wait?<p>

boston
05-28-2007, 07:29 PM
The Upside of this cancellation is that US enthusiasts have less to whine about not getting this vehicle.<p>Suppose US buyers could always look at the S60.....

JB
05-28-2007, 09:43 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bolita</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I really think that now the RS will bow with the next Focus (C2) if at all.<p>The C1 could easily receive AWD and a high pressure 2.5 pumping 300HP.<p>Why wait?<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Maybe they can't justify the extra costs associated with such a limited model, especially with the C2 so close around the corner.

CosworthKid
05-29-2007, 04:39 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>boston</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Upside of this cancellation is that US enthusiasts have less to whine about not getting this vehicle.<p>Suppose US buyers could always look at the S60.....</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Mate i wish ud read all posts first...its not cancelled, at least no mention has been made officialy by Ford. Like i wrote just a couple of posts before, some insiders who work for Ford Europe's performance division has stated that the AE article is fake and the RS is happening <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/embeer.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>And as for the US buyers: i seriously doubt the RS would have made it there, it would cost too much. NA's local performance arm could do their own version i guess

DSC-OFF
06-30-2007, 08:53 AM
<A HREF="http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/images/article_images/Ford_Focus_RS_1_560px.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/i...x.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/images/article_images/Ford_Focus_RS_2_560px.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/i...x.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/images/article_images/Ford_Focus_RS_3_560px.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/i...x.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/images/article_images/Ford_Focus_RS_4_560px.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/i...x.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/secret_new_car.php?sid=818&page=1" TARGET="_blank">CAR</A><br> <br>

fippsey
06-30-2007, 09:45 AM
wtf is that thing on teh front right wheel?<p>also bigger alloys been tested on teh rear

smokeonit
06-30-2007, 08:54 PM
<A HREF="http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/secret_new_car.php?sid=818&page=1" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/s...age=1</A><p>the thing on the front wheel measures tech data from that wheel. like speed... and to me the rear and front wheels and tires look the same, 17"/225ish<p>pictures from the ring are from the 12th of june.

haji
11-08-2007, 04:02 AM
ST500<br><IMG SRC="http://images.worldcarfans.com/articles/2007/11/7/9071107.006/9071107.006.1L.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><A HREF="http://www.worldcarfans.com/9071107.006/limited-edition-ford-focus-st500-released" TARGET="_blank">http://www.worldcarfans.com/90...eased</A>

CosworthKid
11-08-2007, 05:56 AM
This is the ST500 limited edition for the UK market. It has nothing to do with the RS

genzai kuruma tsumaranai
11-08-2007, 06:31 AM
Were the double lines running on the bonnet really necessairy?!? Looks a bit fishy...

CosworthKid
11-08-2007, 12:45 PM
That has been used in many legendary performance Fords since the original GT40 if not mistaken. Personally i like them

CosworthKid
12-12-2007, 09:54 PM
Another source claiming to have "official inside news"...this time Carscoop is dismissing everything we have been hearing so far and saying that yes, the RS is coming end of 2008 BUT it will use the same T5 engine used in the current ST, be based on the ST itself and remain FWD (wtf?) with 280bhp and not 300. Now this sounds dodgy to me to be frank, Ford is not known for creating overpowered FWD hatches in Europe, and 280 on a FWD small car would most likely be following the not-so-great attempts of Opel, Alfa Romeo,etc. I'm not a big fan of the Mazda3 MPS so i hope this is false and they do opt for AWD. Here is the Carscoop..."scoop".


Carscoop has received inside information that Ford will definitely introduce a successor to the highly acclaimed previous generation Focus RS (image above) in late 2008. We know that youve been hearing ambiguous news about the Focus RS the past year or so, but trust us; we wouldnt have bothered telling you about it if we werent absolutely sure of the credibility of our source. For what it matters, we did the same thing with the mildly facelifted Focus a few months back.

Ok, so now that we have convinced you about our reliability, lets see what else we learned about the upcoming Focus RS. First of all, Fords performance team, led by Jost Capito, will use the Focus ST as the base car for the RS. The sporty hatch will powered by an upgraded version of the STs 225 HP 2.5-liter 5-cylinder turbocharged engine delivering approximately 280 HP. -Continued after the jump

Power will be driven to the front wheels via a six-speed manual gearbox while the RS will be equipped with an advanced semi-active limited-slip differential, improving traction and handling. Of course, the RS will also get a new suspension tuning and more powerful brakes.

In terms of appearance, little is known, but expect a more dynamic bodykit with larger spoilers along with a new set of chunkier tires and alloy wheels. Same goes for the interior that will probably be equipped with new bucket seats and a sportier trim.

So, when will the new Focus RS hit the European market? Our source told us that sales will start during the fourth quarter of 2008. We just cant wait to compare the RS against the new Impreza WRX and Mitsubishi Lancer EVO.

swizzle
12-13-2007, 02:24 AM
Mental note: Envy and hate the Europeans who can drive a Focus like this while NA gets Crapzilla...

CosworthKid
12-15-2007, 07:08 PM
Great feedback from the "insider" from FordEurope.net regarding the "news" i posted above by Carscoop (which where wayyy too fishy)

I've never heard of carscoop and I know where they are getting their information from.

There is a press release out from our new boss at Team RS and it's down in black & white that we are using the SI6 Turbo Engine for the Ford Focus RS.
It will be AWD and will have around 300 bhp +.
There will be 18" wheels standard but a wider profile due to wider wheel arches and the 19"s will be optional, but I recommend anyone thinking of buying one stay with the 18"s.

The person who have given the 2.5 T5 engine details out to the media does not have anything to do with the RS project, they do work for Ford but in another country, as I have told you before it's a Prodrive project.

Ascariss
12-17-2007, 07:01 AM
this new?

article
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9071217.003/ford-release-teaser-photo-of-new-focus-rs

image
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9071217.003/photo1/ford-release-teaser-photo-of-new-focus-rs

PRODIGY
12-17-2007, 11:15 AM
this new?


Well I haven't seen it before.

So this is official right? If it is... WOW! A lot of aggression in that front end. Love it!

fippsey
12-17-2007, 12:38 PM
OMG!
that front end looks amasing!!
cant wait to see the official pictures :D

Shomare
12-17-2007, 12:42 PM
Maybe it's wishful thinking on my part, but doesn't it stand to reason that if Ford is going spend R&D money on an AWD 300 bhp RS version of the Focus, they'd also create a C30 R (Volvo).

The rumors on this one are all over the place. I6 vs I5 AWD vs FWD with a limited slip. Either way, it would seem that development cost are more justified if spread around the FoMoCo family rather than on one limited run vehicle.

ajprice
12-17-2007, 01:13 PM
A lightened version of that pic to bring out the bumper a bit more...
http://homepage.mac.com/adrianprice1/focusbright.jpg

Looks good :)

Shomare
12-17-2007, 03:46 PM
More news, this time from FoMoCo directly:

http://media.ford.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=27402



Stay Tuned


Ford of Europe will not reveal any of the technical details of the new Focus RS until closer to launch in 2009. The company plans to show a concept version of the car publicly for the first time in mid-2008.

"We will use the redesigned 2008 Focus ST as the base for a no-compromise RS model that will become the ultimate road-going Focus," Capito added. "Just as the Focus RS WRC owns the rally circuit, we want the new Focus RS to own the road, so we have the major competitors in our sights as we develop the car's performance, design, handling and braking."


"We're not ready to confirm any of the technical details of the new Focus RS yet - Jost and his team have a lot to do to finalize the exact specification and styling," said Fleming. "But make no mistake, I can assure you that ultimately, the car we plan to launch will be worthy of wearing the coveted Ford RS badge."

CosworthKid
12-17-2007, 05:59 PM
It is official?????????????Yes! Finally some light! I need to see the entire car but it looks aggressive so far and thats good!

davidChief
12-18-2007, 09:19 PM
High res images, including a high quality lightened version.

http://www.forddesktops.com/default.asp?a=search&k=Focus+RS+2009

It's looking very nice indeed.

I had a Mk1 Focus RS and it was an amazing piece of kit. I'm going to start saving right now! :-)

CosworthKid
12-19-2007, 07:46 PM
Maybe it's wishful thinking on my part, but doesn't it stand to reason that if Ford is going spend R&D money on an AWD 300 bhp RS version of the Focus, they'd also create a C30 R (Volvo).

The rumors on this one are all over the place. I6 vs I5 AWD vs FWD with a limited slip. Either way, it would seem that development cost are more justified if spread around the FoMoCo family rather than on one limited run vehicle.

There might be a C30 R, who knows? Ford never made money on their RS cars, they actually lost money on every Mk1 Focus RS they sold, hence why Ford always waits till nearly the end of the car's circle to release it looking at factors such as desirability and profit brought in by the normal and ST versions of the car. It's just a halo car, one that the brand doesn't expect to make much money from but performance nuts will absolutely love and become another icon in brands performance history.

CosworthKid
12-19-2007, 07:47 PM
High res images, including a high quality lightened version.

http://www.forddesktops.com/default.asp?a=search&k=Focus+RS+2009

It's looking very nice indeed.

I had a Mk1 Focus RS and it was an amazing piece of kit. I'm going to start saving right now! :-)

Thanks for the link mate:D

CosworthKid
12-22-2007, 10:07 AM
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/60/rs2009clearedts2.jpg
Another "cleared" image of the official teaser as done by a member of FordEurope.net
<script type="text/javascript">setImgWidth();</script>

CosworthKid
02-13-2008, 07:04 PM
how come i can't use the buttons to link images, place URLS or even paste images ??

Horizon
02-13-2008, 07:27 PM
Looks mean.I like it.
To me, there's a clear visual link to the Escort XR3 on that last pic, wich is always good.

CosworthKid
02-13-2008, 07:50 PM
Looks mean.I like it.
To me, there's a clear visual link to the Escort XR3 on that last pic, wich is always good. Lol, mate i posted that pic above weeks ago and to be honest i was surprised that no one took an interest in it. I have some magazine scans of how the RS could look inside and out but i can't use the tools or link anything at all, not even the smileys

Horizon
02-13-2008, 08:15 PM
Lol, mate i posted that pic above weeks ago and to be honest i was surprised that no one took an interest in it. I have some magazine scans of how the RS could look inside and out but i can't use the tools or link anything at all, not even the smileys

Its quite a striking pic (what with the mesmerizing fog light halo) so i'am surprised too nobody commented on it.
Otherwise, that problem might be computer-related (as opposed to forum-related) coz i used the tools you mentioned not a long time ago.....or else you've reached the maximum number of posts allowed and have to start all over again :)

CosworthKid
02-13-2008, 10:16 PM
Yeah it is probably because of my browser of computer...anyways i will post the links here even if they appear inactive so anyone interested can copy/paste them directly on their browser. It's really worth a look cause it has some great chops of the RS both exterior and interior plus info ALTHOUGH: for some reason all the press is writing about a FWD Focus RS producing 280bhp and using the Volvo 2.5 litre Turbo also found in the ST. Extremely trust worthy and reliable sources from within Ford's TeamRS and Prodrive are stating that all this info is INCORRECT. Don't ask me why, the only logical assumption i can think of is that Ford is feeding the press with wrong information deliberately, perhaps in an attempt to fool the competition or to shock the public when the actual car comes out. The actual car is said to have over 300+bhp, AWD and Volvo's all-new high capacity engines (3.0litres if not mistaken). Again this is from very trustworthy sources and if you bare in mind that the Focus ST has an upgrade pack which increases the power to about 260bhp it would indeed be silly to think the RS would be FWD and carry just 20bhp over the ST. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/iwishihadacosworth/magcarfrsii07cl3ri5.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/iwishihadacosworth/focusrs201dw8ov2.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/iwishihadacosworth/focusrs202tl9gl8.jpg

Shomare
02-18-2008, 03:30 AM
Ford Focus RS Exposed: http://forums.focaljet.com/team-pit-stop/573532-2009-focus-rs-reveiled-euro-magazine.html

against the wall
02-18-2008, 05:53 AM
nice. somehow, the side view looks a teeny bit like the NA focus hatch-ified, which makes it look a little odd. what are the power numbers?

Hornbag
02-18-2008, 06:57 AM
I really think they should have waited for the next gen model because the 3 Door Focus looks horrible to me. Especially the dopey, slab-sided side proile. Still, should be an incredably hot car to look at front on and drive. Will it have AWD and a new engine or is the article right and the Volvo engine with FWD? Same pictures that Cosworthkid posted though.

Hornbag
02-18-2008, 07:01 AM
The article says 300hp Against The Wall. But then again it says FWD which i have herd is wrong?

hks786
02-18-2008, 01:10 PM
Joined the images up to complete the front view:

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w239/J78628/Untitled-2-9.jpg

Shomare
02-18-2008, 01:41 PM
I'm reading now, that they are a fake. Based on some observations such as a four lug wheel.

CosworthKid
02-18-2008, 04:22 PM
Honestly guys, i thought no one was interested over the RS anymore! I posted articles and photos ages ago and no one even discussed them which kinda disappointed me (lack of interest in the car). That last article is not more authentic than the others, those look like chops to me. The car will NOT be FWD, it cannot be. That's not Ford's policy, 300+ on FWD? Yeah right.. edit: and frankly this is pure stupidity from Ford, it's the first time inside sources are giving such different information than the media. The insiders at the Ford forums which have been regularly feeding us with accurate info are swearing it will have the bigger, newer Volvo engine, 300+bhp AND most definitely AWD. Hornbag i agree the current Focus is no beauty but seriously i don't think most of the people after this car care. It will be another icon in Ford Europe's performance history and these cars are highly loved and respected even more than more premium offerings in many markets here. Besides it will be built in certain numbers if not mistaken and even so it is hardly ugly all geared up like this. The 3-door looks phenomenal in ST guise compared to the (i agree) crappy normal 3-door so the RS should be even better

Shomare
02-18-2008, 04:41 PM
Honestly guys, i thought no one was interested over the RS anymore! I posted articles and photos ages ago and no one even discussed them which kinda disappointed me (lack of interest in the car). That last article is not more authentic than the others, those look like chops to me. The car will NOT be FWD, it cannot be. That's not Ford's policy, 300+ on FWD? Yeah right.. edit: and frankly this is pure stupidity from Ford, it's the first time inside sources are giving such different information than the media. The insiders at the Ford forums which have been regularly feeding us with accurate info are swearing it will have the bigger, newer Volvo engine, 300+bhp AND most definitely AWD. Hornbag i agree the current Focus is no beauty but seriously i don't think most of the people after this car care. It will be another icon in Ford Europe's performance history and these cars are highly loved and respected even more than more premium offerings in many markets here. Besides it will be built in certain numbers if not mistaken and even so it is hardly ugly all geared up like this. The 3-door looks phenomenal in ST guise compared to the (i agree) crappy normal 3-door so the RS should be even better

Sorry Cos, a insider I've chatted with confirms no AWD. This source is directly working on the RS project.

CosworthKid
02-18-2008, 04:43 PM
Sorry Cos, a insider I've chatted with confirms no AWD. This source is directly working on the RS project. Same as the insider we know (working directly at the project i mean)..this is weird man. I hope Ford makes some official statement soon

hks786
02-19-2008, 09:33 AM
pics are fake people

- wheels are fake
- fog lights dont appear in side profile shot
- fog lights are obviously just pasted on the front shot. looks very fake.

CosworthKid
02-19-2008, 01:45 PM
Yes that's what we said, it's fake. Ford is playing a strange game this time, the ONLY official piece we had some far was the gray teaser photo and nothing else, no other photos are real and no info the magazines are saying can be considered real. They are keeping this tighter than anything else before

Shomare
02-21-2008, 12:58 PM
More "photos" have surfaced:

http://img155.imageshack.us/my.php?i...usrs201cm5.jpg

http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?i...usrs202xc7.jpg

hks786
02-21-2008, 03:05 PM
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/8203/es6c7l9673c5xg5.jpg
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/8203/es6c7l9673c5xg5.jpg
http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/7691/hwl9xj95e63dqg8.jpg

Love those chops, bored of those wheels though! I'm sure they wont be on the production model.

CosworthKid
02-21-2008, 05:23 PM
Love the aggressive front on those chops as well. I am far more curious about the actual stats of the car than the looks though, let's hope Ford makes an official statement soon

Hornbag
02-22-2008, 10:58 AM
Chops are awesome. It makes the car look angry and really really cool. The 3-door looks pretty hot there i must say. I will agree with hks though and say Ford need a new wheel design. It was cool on the Focus ST/XR5, and then on the Mondeo XR5 but they use a variation of the same design on so many of their cars. They should keep that design, but some fresh wheel designs would be nice. Although for all we know these chops could be way off. Cosworth when is this RS supposed to be shown/released?

CosworthKid
02-22-2008, 12:11 PM
Cosworth when is this RS supposed to be shown/released? Some reports suggest the RS will make it's first showing in concept guise just before the London show in July and it's so far slated for a mid 2009 release if not mistaken. The UK has always been the biggest market for Fast Fords so this would make sense and would also give the troubled London Motor Show a very needed boost. The all new Focus should arrive no latter than 2010 in final concept shape so the RS being released in 2009 makes sense given the time frame the previous RS model was released as well (near the end of the model's life circle )

Hornbag
02-23-2008, 01:52 AM
Yeah, I only just really noticed that the previous RS was actually released pretty late in its lifecycle. So this RS isn't really late, it just seems that Ford do this with the RS? Well here's to hoping. AWD!!!

CosworthKid
02-23-2008, 06:49 PM
Yeah, I only just really noticed that the previous RS was actually released pretty late in its lifecycle. So this RS isn't really late, it just seems that Ford do this with the RS? Well here's to hoping. AWD!!!

Yes they did the same with the Mk1, they say they actually lose money on every RS sold cause the asking price isn't enough to make up for it so it is a true halo car in every sense for them. The current RS has been into development since the normal car debuted but they weren't even sure if they would release it till they tested for demand and actual sales of the normal hatch in order for them to invest in it. They have their own logic i guess, hopefuly with the MK3 the profits of Ford will be healthy enough to put the project into full speed and release it not so far down the life circle of the car. As for AWD i put my faith on our sources!!

boston
03-03-2008, 05:42 AM
http://www.topgear.com/content/features/stories/2008/02/stories/17/1.html

http://www.topgear.com/content/features/stories/2008/02/stories/17/images/1/

http://www.topgear.com/content/features/stories/2008/02/stories/17/images/2/

http://www.topgear.com/content/features/stories/2008/02/stories/17/images/3/

Hot on the heels of its 2007 World Rally Championship triumph, Ford has serious plans to get back into the hyperhatch market alongside the Subaru WRX STI with an all-new Focus RS in 2009.

Yes, 2009, not 2008. Ford will show a finished concept Focus RS at this year's London Motor Show in July, but the production version of the Blue Oval's new road rocket will not be launched until the London Motor Show in 2009. The company says its design department is just too busy getting all its other new cars - the slick new Fiesta, Kuga and Ka - sorted to have the time this year to get the RS ready.

But, while Martin Smith's design team is sharpening its crayons, the engineering team, led by Ford Team RS boss and ex Paris-Dakar racer, Jost Capitos, will be hard at work deciding on the car's final specification. First indications are that the car will have two-wheel drive and produce at least 280bhp, but don't take those as gospel yet.

The news that it will be front-wheel and not four-wheel-drive will disappoint rally fans wanting a clone of the Championship-winning car, but Ford is certain that once we have seen and driven the car, few will be upset. It says it has rejected the all-wheel-drive set-up as it adds cost and weight, plus it is working on a super sexy semi-active limited-slip diff that it reckons will not struggle to get the power down.

How much power those front wheels will have to handle is still unclear. While initial rumours suggest 280bhp is the magic number, that would put the car at a significant disadvantage to the Subaru and Evo rally weapons, each of which have around 300bhp to play with. Even allowing for the Japanese cars' power-sapping four-wheel drive, a 20bhp deficit could leave the new RS eating dust.

The other key reason for expecting more than 280bhp from the turbocharged five-cylinder engine is Ford Team RS's project Blufin. Set up to capture some of the lucrative aftermarket tuning business for the Focus and Fiesta ST, the dealer-fit engine and chassis tune-up kits, produced for Ford by tuning ace Roush Engineering under the Mountune name, will boost the standard Focus ST's 225bhp in steps all the way to as high as 260bhp.

So there's no way that the full-blown RS is only going to make 20bhp more than a warmed-up standard Focus ST. 300bhp then? That sounds much more like it.

Helping traction and handling will be some very special 19-inch wheels plus a completely reworked suspension system - new dampers, springs, anti-roll bars - that lower the car to improve aerodynamic downforce and sucker it down onto the road. The brakes will also be significantly upgraded for sure.

While the company claims that the final design has yet to be signed off, the first teaser picture of the car released at the WRC celebration dinner last December shows that it's going to be a very long way from modestly styled. It might not have the rally car's four-wheel drive, but it'll have plenty of the mud-slinger's styling cues.

The deep front airdam will be complemented by some muscular wheelarches and a rally-style rear wing to give the car some serious visual attitude. Expect none of it to be there for show. The whale-tailed Escort RS Cosworth was the only production car to generate positive downforce when it was built in 1992 and the new car builds on everything that car started.

And it's not just the exterior that gets new clothes. The interior will be swathed in a unique RS trim that, initial reports suggest, will mix proper rally style functionality without compromising comfort on the most important rally stage of all - the one to and from the office in the morning.

But as valve-bouncingly exciting as the rest of the car sounds, it's the price of the Focus RS that could be the real shocker. In the same way that the ST has captured the lion's share of the hot hatch market in the UK through its addictive low price/high performance mix, the RS is expected to undercut the opposition significantly.

Figures as low as 21,000 have been mentioned but expect something nearer 23,000 by the time the car hits the dealerships in mid 2009.

At that price it could kill the competition before it even turns a wheel, so expect the new Focus RS to sell out fast. And start talking nicely to your insurance agent now.

CosworthKid
03-03-2008, 11:56 AM
If the "source" i trust is wrong i will kill him! FWD or AWD this will still be one mean beast but still..PLEASE don't remain FWD. The Kuga get's the Haldex system, why can't the RS?

AM2K
03-17-2008, 08:37 PM
No new info, but thought it was time to bump the thread ;)


Ford Focus RS Concept Headed for London

http://images.worldcarfans.com/articles/2008/3/13/9080313.017/9080313.017.1M.jpg

Weve heard confirmation of a Ford Focus RS model, and weve seen the teaser pics floating around. But do we have the specs, do we have anything physical to go on, a tyre thread, a steering wheel, anything? Nope. We have this photograph. Plus the teaser image thats already been published.

London Motor Show in July is the place to be if you want to check out the entire detail. Of course some time before then WCF would have supplied technical specs, as usual. But for now we have to rely on crumbs thrown down from the engineering insiders table at Ford that firstly the Focus RS will not be 4WD but front-wheel-driven. This alone is probably enough to make it a Mazda3 MPS rival more than a Subaru STI foe. But wait, theres more. Looks like well be coming in at under 300 bhp 280 bhp speculated on this one! Its a lot sure, but again, STI places 300 horses on its back, with an additional 8 horses just in case.

FWD of course makes sense up until around 320 bhp where 4WD must be used. Otherwise you can stick to rear-wheel-driven motors. We are hoping for 4WD and that magical 300-plus horses from the 2.5-litre turbo, and theres still time to effect the necessary changes before the RS hits the market.

SOURCE: WCF/ Top Gear

CosworthKid
03-18-2008, 11:31 AM
FWD of course makes sense up until around 320 bhp where 4WD must be used.

Huh? Surely they meant to write 220 bhp?

I am getting the feeling Ford is about to stir things up for good, all these info leaks have not been backed up by any official word from FoMoCo...i have trust in the element of surprise;)

fippsey
03-20-2008, 01:58 AM
yeah there has been no official information released we are just going off word of mouth
but i notice we havnt seen any more spyshots even a focus ST with a body kit or nothing the RS will stir things up big time and we have the privalage of seen the concept when its unveiled in london :D

CosworthKid
03-23-2008, 12:00 PM
best photo of the mule yet! Look at that scoop!
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_502/car_photo_251016_25.jpg

fippsey
03-23-2008, 01:09 PM
all bow down to cosworthkid lol
ahh what a scoop!
not much change on it like only the bonnet =/

UKEnthusiast
03-23-2008, 04:07 PM
That photo is in this weeks Auto Express. And the photo has the AE logo embedded in it.

CosworthKid
03-23-2008, 04:20 PM
That photo is in this weeks Auto Express. And the photo has the AE logo embedded in it.

Ahem...i never said i took the photo myself mate, kinda hard to do that, by scoop i literally meant the bonnet scoop;)

fippsey this is just a mule, i bet you the real deal will be a monster:P And they will need it to be if it really is stuck with the same engine as the ST and *sigh* FWD

CosworthKid
03-23-2008, 04:34 PM
Here is the article from AutoExpress, i didn't post it before cause 1)it pretty much says the same things we read before and 2)i don't trust em much!
Take a look at the best picture yet of Ford’s Focus RS! Just a few months after bosses gave the new hot hatch the green light (Issue 992), we caught this striking prototype testing in Germany.

While the car wears a previous-generation Focus ST bodykit, there’s a big giveaway that it’s no ordinary model – check out the giant scoop on the bonnet, which feeds the modified 2.5-litre five-cylinder turbo engine with cool air.

Twin bonnet air vents, harking back to the Escort RS Cosworth, will replace the scoop on the production car. Blistered wheelarches, a rear wing and a low front splitter will also feature.

With a larger turbocharger, remapped electronics and a bigger intercooler, the 2.5-litre Focus ST-derived unit will produce around 280bhp, enabling the RS to sprint from 0-60mph in 5.5 seconds and on to a top speed of 155mph.

It’s likely that Ford will equip the newcomer with a clever electronic differential, giving the front-wheel-drive layout excellent traction.

A six-speed manual box will be fitted, but Ford’s new twin-clutch VW DSG-style Powershift transmission could appear, too. The RS will go on sale next year, priced around 25,000. A concept will be revealed at the British Motor Show in London in July.

Date: March 23, 2008
Source: Auto Express

fippsey
03-23-2008, 06:32 PM
hah the real deal wants to be a monster because all the facts and figures people and car sites have been throwing around are rather disapointing
clearly needs 4WD and over 300bhp
a reckon we could be in for a suprise seems ford has said nothing
:P

CosworthKid
03-23-2008, 06:50 PM
hah the real deal wants to be a monster because all the facts and figures people and car sites have been throwing around are rather disapointing
clearly needs 4WD and over 300bhp
a reckon we could be in for a suprise seems ford has said nothing
:P

Well i mentioned many times that some who claim to be insiders also insist on AWD and 300+ bhp and i am hopeful of course..then again the price would probably be fake as well cause it should cost more than that..

fippsey
03-23-2008, 09:04 PM
yeah it will probs be near the 30,000 mark but people will still buy it because everyone loves fast fords (y)

Jayhawker83
03-28-2008, 03:20 PM
Wouldn't it make economic sense for Ford to move the tooling and production of this vehicle to the U.S. after it discontinues this model run? I understand they would still have to switch the drive side over and make the design adjustments for safety but still, that would have to be cheaper than developing a whole new U.S. Vehicle.

CosworthKid
03-28-2008, 03:32 PM
The next, all-new Focus estimated to be released around 2010-11 will be targeting the NA market as much as it does the European and the rest of the world now. It will also be produced in NA from what i know, even if it is just for the cars sold there. Thinks keep changing under Mullaly so i don't think anyone can say with certainly what exactly will happen

CosworthKid
04-06-2008, 09:22 PM
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!

First photo and eye witness testimony to a 4WD Ford Focus performance variant!!! Can you say: RS?!!!

I just knew it!

http://bridgetogantry.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=139&Itemid=1&mosmsg=Thanks+for+your+vote%21

sure some may see this might be incorrect but i doubt it!

Rabican-Greece
04-06-2008, 09:45 PM
is it used the pre-facelift focus? why that? is it possible that a 4wd system is used with the same platform? (i dont know the right word-maybe is chassis)

swizzle
04-07-2008, 12:54 AM
How about an AWD small coupe pulled off of the next Focus RS for NA??? That could be wonderful. I'd switch the name of the next Focus to Falcon and pay off Pep Boys for the use of the name Futura for an import tuner coupe. I'd also pull the next Escape off of the next "Focus". And to all the Falcon fans...Interceptor would be a better marketing name for NA for the next Falcon.

Ford just needs to fast track the good hardware to NA.

CosworthKid
04-07-2008, 10:25 AM
is it used the pre-facelift focus? why that? is it possible that a 4wd system is used with the same platform? (i dont know the right word-maybe is chassis)

This is still a mule testing, the shell is of the pre-facelifted Focus but that is not important, the final car will of course be of the facelifted one;) The platform which underpins the Focus is quite flexible and the Freelander and Kuga also sit on the same platform so yes it is possible

CosworthKid
04-07-2008, 10:30 AM
How about an AWD small coupe pulled off of the next Focus RS for NA??? .

Ford is prepping the Capri coupe which i assume will be based on the Mk3 Focus platform. Since Ford Europe is now in charge of everything to do with chassis engineering and exterior/interior design for cars of this size it would be more logical to expect NA to get a version of the Capri anyways. I am hopeful that performance variants of the Capri will get the same AWD treatment as the Focus. Now if for some reason Ford decides to use the current C1 platform for the Capri then perhaps we could expect an AWD version right after the release of the model.

Totally disagree about the use of the Falcon name and i am glad Ford is opting for global naming. Call it sentimental BS but i think taking away the RWD development from the Aussie is bad enough, we don't need to bastardize the name as well (with all due respect) even if it originated from NA it has been a much loved nameplate for over 40 years in Australia. Besides i mentioned this before but it will just cause confusion, like now when i perform a search on google and it comes up with 2 totally different types of car for the Fusion name. And the Focus name is well respected around the world now, its like importing the Mustang to Europe and naming it Cortina

Rabican-Greece
04-07-2008, 11:56 AM
This is still a mule testing, the shell is of the pre-facelifted Focus but that is not important, the final car will of course be of the facelifted one;) The platform which underpins the Focus is quite flexible and the Freelander and Kuga also sit on the same platform so yes it is possible
didnt know that about the platform. the AWD system is something with haldex? i mean not 3 differentials like STi and EVO...

CosworthKid
04-07-2008, 12:08 PM
didnt know that about the platform. the AWD system is something with haldex? i mean not 3 differentials like STi and EVO...

Yes its a Haldex system, also used by Volvo

AM2K
04-07-2008, 12:39 PM
Same picture, but a couple of more details:

http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080407.003/production-ford-focus-rs-spied-on-the-ring

http://images.worldcarfans.com/2008/4/7/9080407.003/9080407.003.1M.jpg

CosworthKid
04-07-2008, 12:48 PM
Notice to all Brits: buy all the Focus RS cars you can and sell them around 1-2 years later so i can import at least one sample here as second-hand & cheaper :)

swizzle
04-07-2008, 01:21 PM
Totally disagree about the use of the Falcon name and i am glad Ford is opting for global naming... its like importing the Mustang to Europe and naming it Cortina

That said, the Falcon is not remembered exactly in a fond light in NA if it is remembered at all. Given that by the time the sedan is produced the Falcon nameplate will have been dead in NA for over 40 years. Resurrecting a nearly forgotten name to launch a sporting RWD sedan may not be as smart for marketing as using "Interceptor" which struck a chord or even "Fairlane" for that matter. People know "Ford Fairlane" even if they have no idea what one looks like.

Worldwide naming is of dubious benefit at best, but there are those who think Mr. M. is infallible...

CosworthKid
04-07-2008, 01:42 PM
I don't know mate, i think the Falcon case (current car) is a different situation from the Focus. The Focus is an international nameplate and despite the current NA version being different and not as reputable as the global one once the new car is launched (including NA) it will be good to have the same name is in every other market of the world. On the other hand the Interceptor case is different since it will probably remain a NA model only (if) and also be a twin car to the Aussie Falcon, the Australians will no doubt keep their favorite nameplate while Americans can choose whatever name they wish for it IMHO

AM2K
04-10-2008, 08:08 PM
Ford Focus RS scooped

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/upload/8626/images/1FordFocusRSF34.jpg

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/upload/8626/images/2FordFocusRSside.jpg

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/upload/8626/images/3FordFocusRSR34.jpg

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/upload/8626/images/4FordFocusRSF34.jpg

http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/upload/8626/images/5FordFocusRSR34.jpg


Full article can be read at: http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/Secret-new-cars/Search-Results/Spyshots/Ford-Focus-RS-scooped/?&R=EPI-5902

AM2K
04-10-2008, 08:16 PM
Mega Focus RS wings in

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_508/car_photo_254115_25.jpg

Don't be fooled by the disguise this previous-generation Focus is the latest mule for the scorching new Focus RS, due next spring for around 25,000.

Our spies caught the hot hatch putting in some blistering laps around a test track. And this shot proves that the RS is in for some serious aerodynamic treatment. The untidy masking at the front suggests Ford is planning to add a sizeable spoiler to help keep the RS sticking to the asphalt and its the same story at the rear. Rigid, low suspension and beefy brakes provide sharp handling, while the 280bhp 2.5-litre turbo engine will deliver a 0-60mph time of around five seconds.

SOURCE: http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/autoexpressnews/219960/ford_focus.html

CosworthKid
04-11-2008, 01:10 PM
What is AE doing? They keep re-posting the same BS for months now

CosworthKid
06-10-2008, 08:53 AM
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/8450/rs1nm4pm0gl8.jpg
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/4306/rs2tc1ty0lf2.jpg
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/6483/rs3bb3su2ng2.jpg

lOVE IT!

CosworthKid
06-10-2008, 10:12 AM
The above pics are probably fake, let's wait till they appear on other websites as well...

the1
06-10-2008, 12:51 PM
They're not fake IMO. It's hot!

BlueFalcon
06-10-2008, 01:08 PM
That looks amazing! I gotta agree with you when you say they look fake though. I just thought the light catching the front badge and the fog lights looked as though they didn't match with the rest of the car. Still looks sweet though!

CosworthKid
06-10-2008, 02:02 PM
They're not fake IMO. It's hot!

They might be mock up photos used to present the car at dealers (from what a member in FordEurope said). There isn't even a driver in the on-road shot but yeah, they could very well be the real deal! I'm cautiously waiting for official word from Ford;)

CosworthKid
06-10-2008, 10:07 PM
The forum which originally had posted the above pics where asked by Ford Belgium to put them down so we know for sure those are the real deal!

against the wall
06-10-2008, 11:42 PM
thats a pretty crappy photoshop job if they are indeed real. i mean, if you are going to do motion shots, at least put a driver in the car...

CosworthKid
06-10-2008, 11:54 PM
Perhaps you did not read what i posted earlier, these are most likely mock up shots directed for retailers. They are not finished, promos for the press and public

Kid Red
06-11-2008, 12:59 AM
Looks nice but I wish Ford would move on from the fender vents and elements right behind the fender. If they need something there put a side marker.

Shomare
06-11-2008, 01:04 AM
My continued speculation and hope is that this may pave the way for more performance in the Volvo C30.

It just doesn't seem logical to develop a performance variant of a Focus only, when developmental cost could be spread out by offering a performance varriant of the C30.

CosworthKid
06-11-2008, 08:21 AM
Look at what worldcarfans posted (took the link from haji's post)

WCF partner site CarSpyShots.net has mysteriously produced some computer edited images of the eagerly anticipated Focus RS model. The neon green color, blurred background and shadowed foreground alone are a dead giveaways that some major computer editing is employed here, not to mention the vehicle body showing some editing artifacts, particularly around the RS emblems, body edges and wheels/tires in motion while no driver sits in the vehicle also point to fraud. However, the strongest evidence is the fact that Ford released a teaser image (http://www.worldcarfans.com/9071217.003/ford-release-teaser-photo-of-new-focus-rs) of the front end late last year.
Still, what's causing the stir here is the overall genuineness of the RS package and the explicit detail of it's design. From the trapezoidal front bumper (http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080610.014/convincing-ford-focus-rs-renderings-surface#) lower grille, lower headlamp mouldings, hood accent lines with vents, fender RS badge and side skirts to the vented rear bumper with diffusor, built-in dual exhausts and roof spoiler (http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080610.014/convincing-ford-focus-rs-renderings-surface#) - it's all quite convincing.
Despite the hype, we know the car is coming. Prototypes wearing an ST body have been spotted numerous (http://www.worldcarfans.com/9071017.001/ford-focus-rs-spied) times (http://www.worldcarfans.com/6061127.001/spy-photos-more-ford-focus-rs), most recently (http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080407.003/production-ford-focus-rs-spied-on-the-ring) at the Nurburgring Nordschleife, and Ford (http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080610.014/convincing-ford-focus-rs-renderings-surface#) has admitted that the RS will appear in concept form at this summer's British Motor Show (http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080610.014/convincing-ford-focus-rs-renderings-surface#). Optimist put the RS at 350hp, but it is speculated that a 2.5-liter turbo making between 280-300hp will be the powerplant. What do you think?



Mysteriously produced?

Hornbag
06-12-2008, 07:01 AM
Awesome. Who could have thought a 3-Door Focus could look so hot. The front especially is fantastic. Bring it on! FPV please...

CosworthKid
06-12-2008, 09:57 AM
Now that you mention it I am looking forward to seeing the 5-door! I was looking at these pics and thinking "it looks awesome yet there seems to be something lacking" and now i remembered how the current 3-door Focus doesn't look half as good as the 5-door!!! So bring it on!

fippsey
06-12-2008, 11:35 AM
Here are some official releases from ford today

get them looked at

www.worldcarfans.com/9080612.006/photo1/official-focus-rs-photos--details-released

www.worldcarfans.com/9080612.006/mini2/official-focus-rs-photos--details-released

CosworthKid
06-12-2008, 12:00 PM
Looks GREAT in black!

And now here comes the disappointing news. It seems the so called "insider" we had in the Ford forums was not telling the truth..or at least it seems so.

This is what Jost Capito just announced according to a member of the forum
The all-new Focus RS features a specially developed, turbocharged version of the Duratec 2.5-litre engine, based on Focus ST, but significantly revised to generate over 280PS and more than 400 Nm of torque, thus achieving an excellent power-to-weight ratio.

Various chassis innovations, developed in conjunction with Ford's Advanced Engineering Centre in Aachen are being tuned for the new car by the Cologne-based Ford Team RS. Their overriding objective is to achieve optimized driving dynamics and on road performance through an advanced technology front-wheel drive system, combined with a limited-slip differential.

Do i have fait in TeamRS? Hell yeah. But still kinda disappointed and worried, no matter what some people say the Mazda3 MPS and Opel Astra OPC/VXR where not success stories and it was all mostly down to having great bhp power and FWD. I hope and pray Ford has done a MUCH better job with the RS

CosworthKid
06-12-2008, 12:04 PM
Btw since these are official there is no need for links

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/piedro1984/8612102125_focus.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y123/piedro1984/861210214135_focus.jpg

Absolutely love it in black! I wonder if this is the same Panther Black color as on the normal Focus..it looks different and shinier somehow

CosworthKid
06-12-2008, 12:35 PM
From Autocar:
Here, in first official pictures from its Nurburgring development programme, is Ford’s fantastic new performance flagship, the 2009 Focus RS.
Ahead of the Focus RS’s public debut at the London motor show six weeks from now, Ford is honing the new 2009 RS’s performance and handling extensively in Germany at the Nurburgring.
Autocar can now officially confirm that the 2009 RS will be powered by a specially developed version of the Duratec 2.5-litre turbo engine, that’s been ‘significantly revised’ to offer at least 278bhp and 295lb ft of torque.
It will definitely be front-wheel-drive, with a limited slip differential helping to get that 278bhp down to the road. Ford is believed to be testing at the 'Ring to work out just how much power the Focus RS can realistically offer through its front-wheels and gearbox. Ford’s Cologne-based Team RS, the specialist group creating the hard-edged hatch, has been exploring ways to optimize the new Focus RS’s front-drive dynamics using new, advanced technology in the chassis and drive system. The advanced front diff is though to have been developed by engineering specialists Quaife, who developed the differential technology for the previous model.
The team working on this all-new RS are the same group who were responsible for the original Focus RS in 2002, the Fiesta ST and the Focus ST.
"In early prototypes based on Focus ST vehicles, the new system is more than meeting our targets for exceptional levels of traction, handling and steering," said Jost Capito, head of Team RS.
Ford’s promising that the Focus RS will take the performance qualities of the ST hot hatch and amplify them to the next level, using know-how from the company’s World Rally programme to help further develop the car.
Leaked pictures of an ‘ultimate green’ Focus RS, which Autocar revealed yesterday, are thought to be early mock-up photos from Belgium, developed to show Ford dealers what they can expect from the Blue Ovals new hardcore performance hatch. ‘Ultimate green’ will be the colour of the London show car and is a reference to the BP-sponsored world rally car colours.
These latest shots of a black RS at the Nurburgring are the first official photos of the real-life car.
“The time is right for Ford to deliver a new high performance model for the legions of loyal Ford RS customers around Europe," concluded Jost Capito. We couldn’t agree more.

Hornbag
06-12-2008, 10:52 PM
Looks great. I don't think they will do a 5-Door though will they? They didn't with the last Focus, and would there be a market for it? Still would be a nice edition but I have to say the 3-Door looks sensational in RS form.

CosworthKid
06-13-2008, 12:23 PM
Cologne, June 12, 2008 – Ford RS is back and the all-new Focus RS is on track! An early prototype of the fastest Focus road car to date is now undergoing performance and durability testing at the challenging Nrburgring Circuit in Germany, in preparation for its launch in 2009.
The principal architect of the Focus RS project is Ford of Europe’s Vehicle Line Director for Performance Vehicles, Jost Capito, whose Team RS development group were responsible for the first generation Focus RS in 2002, and more recently, the Fiesta ST and the new Focus ST.
Capito said: “The new Focus RS is as much a car for driving enthusiasts as the one before it and classic Ford RS models of the past. We’re staying true to the core RS principles of a no-compromise, affordable high performance road car you can live with. The new Focus RS will have the muscles, heart and soul of a genuine RS and will be exciting to drive every day.”
The all-new Focus RS features a specially developed, turbocharged version of the Duratec 2.5-litre engine, based on Focus ST, but significantly revised to generate over 280PS and more than 400 Nm of torque, thus achieving an excellent power-to-weight ratio.
Various chassis innovations, developed in conjunction with Ford's Advanced Engineering Centre in Aachen are being tuned for the new car by the Cologne-based Ford Team RS. Their overriding objective is to achieve optimized driving dynamics and on road performance through an advanced technology front-wheel drive system, combined with a limited-slip differential.
"In early prototypes based on Focus ST vehicles, the new system is more than meeting our targets for exceptional levels of traction, handling and steering," Capito added. "Given that the enthusiastic team behind the car are all performance vehicle enthusiasts, you can imagine that our standards are high."
Ford Focus – A great starting point
The standard Ford Focus is an excellent base for a high performance car – agile, responsive and stable.
While the latest Focus ST has already proved this to be the case, the new RS will take these qualities to the next level, benefitting from extensive engineering knowledge gained through the Company's highly successful Motorsport programmes, notably with the Focus World Rally Car.
"We have no doubt that we can enhance the acclaimed qualities of the already excellent Focus for an even higher performance model than the ST," Capito added. "Now, we are going through the rigorous job of proving out our technical approach in extensive testing and tuning over a variety of roads including the most demanding track in the world, the "Green Hell" that is the Nrburgring Nordschleife!”
"With two consecutive Manufacturers’ World Rally Championship titles and the success of Fiesta and Focus ST models, we have the knowledge and the experience. The time is right for Ford to deliver a new high performance model for the legions of loyal Ford RS customers around Europe," Capito concluded.
The new Focus RS test and development programme is now well underway and will continue for several months, prior to the vehicle being readied for production in early 2009.
Although the internet and car magazines around the globe have continued to offer their opinions as to how the new car will look and drive, customers will get the first look at a production-intent vehicle with its world premiere at the London Motor Show in late July.
Further technical details of the all-new Focus RS will be released closer to launch.



http://media.ford.com/article_display.cfm?article_id=28429

CosworthKid
06-13-2008, 01:45 PM
From TopGear

RS on the line


The Ford Focus RS is well and truly alive.
These are the first pictures of Ford's new ultra-hot hatch, caught in testing on - yes, you guessed it - the Nurburgring.
Don't worry, that squiggly paintjob won't make it to the production version. At least, we assume it won't - instead, it's designed to disguise the bulging bodywork of the RS.
Bit of a hopeless task, that - there's no hiding the RS's huge flared arches and deep, jutted front splitter, which looks like it's doing a tidy job of keeping the Focus stuck to the 'Ring.
It'll need all the downforce it can get: Ford has confirmed that the RS will indeed be powered by a 'significantly revised version' of the Focus ST's 2.5-litre turbo petrol engine, boosted up to over 276bhp and 395lb ft of torque - not far off Impreza STi/Evo X territory that.
Unlike the Scooby or Evo, though, the RS will be front-wheel drive, albeit with a trick limited-slip diff to aid traction.
While the lack of 4WD might disappoint some, it will help to keep down the weight... and the price. Best guesses are that the RS will come in at under 25 grand when it goes on sale next year.
"We're staying true to the core RS principles of a no-compromise, affordable high performance road car you can live with," says Team RS boss Joss Capito. "The new Focus RS will have the muscle, soul and heart of a genuine RS."
We'll see a 'production-intent' version of the RS (or 'almost-ready', in other words) at the London Motor Show in July, and the full production version later in the year.
Are you as excited as we are?


Hell yeah! The pics in the related article are the same spy shots as posted above
http://www.topgear.com/content/news/stories/2947/

CosworthKid
06-14-2008, 10:19 AM
Capito interview and the RS on the Ring!
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=E-DOXf6GSBo

BryanRW
06-14-2008, 01:18 PM
I want one !:)

CosworthKid
06-14-2008, 07:23 PM
I want one !:)

Me too:naughty: Fingers crossed that the lack of AWD will not hurt it

scorpio14
06-15-2008, 01:05 AM
I was really hoping it would go AWD... pity it didnt. I dont like the front bumper it looks aftermarket, however the rest of it looks great. Hope there is enough made to send a few to Australia

CosworthKid
06-15-2008, 04:22 PM
Spent quite a few posts talking about the lack of AWD in the European Ford forums, all of us are disappointed with the FWD status. Yet i came to thinking this: Ford has spent a massive amount of time (years and years) developing this RS whereas rival models from brands such as Volkswagen and Renault where coming out by the bucket load (and some of them really awesome). Could that mean that maybe, just maybe Ford's TeamRS have managed to do what no other maker has done before and make a FWD hatch with 280bhp which drives phenomenally despite the failures of every other manufacturer in the past? I know it sounds impossible for a FWD car of this power to compete with AWD/4X4 cars in the same range yet what if they did manage to do just that? As an achievement it would be massive and would make the new RS a much more impressive and iconic car than any other before it.
Difficult task I know and probably impossible for any other brand but, call me biased if you wish, i have complete faith in TeamRS. These people are legendary and Ford's performance status is as well despite not having any truly powerful models in their line-up for years. I just think given the amount of experience and sheer passion these people have along with the amount of time it took them to put this into production it could very well be a car that could break the mold.
Fingers crossed! If this is as perfect as I pray for and for just 25.000 UK pounds it will be a massive milestone for Ford