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shonguiz
03-18-2005, 03:31 AM
The last topic on these cars was locked so let's continu discussion here<br>The 1 series touring<br><A HREF="http://www.forum-auto.com/sqlforum/section1/sujet160114.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://www.forum-auto.com/sqlf...4.htm</A> <br>The 2 series cab<br><IMG SRC="http://www.forum-auto.com/uploads/200402/nsv_1077222878_serie1_2.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>Maybe a Z2<br><IMG SRC="http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/sixcms/media.php/76/2er_450.jpg" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by AM2K at 8:22 PM 11/24/2005</i>

erzhik
03-18-2005, 05:30 AM
oh man I hope Z2 will go out...I think it will be cheaper that Z4, but the design is so much better...I hope it comes out, might buy one..

RS
03-18-2005, 07:35 AM
The Z2 will only steal sales from the Z4. Both are 2-seaters and both are roadsters. The Z2 might look better, but evidently many ppl like the SLK better than both of the Z cars... <p>BTW, the 1-series touring pic doesn't work for me.

erzhik
03-18-2005, 06:32 PM
The reason because Z4 is low on sales, is because it is quite expensive for a car like that.

Roadster44
03-19-2005, 08:45 PM
I think Z4's price is the biggest reason why its not selling well. Agreed. Also I think its the packaging and exectution. People just don't think its the best buy for money and go with Boxter and new SLK instead. Z4 needs more personality.

davidChief
03-20-2005, 05:21 AM
Does anyone have any spy pics / artist impressions of the 1 Series coupe (2 series) /

shonguiz
03-20-2005, 06:33 AM
i have seen at germancarfans a photoshped version of 2 series coupe but i lost the link, can anyone post it ?<br>PS: Who told you z4 is not selling well ?

badman
03-20-2005, 08:19 AM
The Z2 is a small 1 series-based roadster to go up against the MX-5.<p>The Z4 has been underperforming sales-wise (just check BMW's yearly sales report), but this is attributed to a segment-wide sales slump (although I'm not sure if that is affecting the SLK or not ;D).

skoochythatone
03-20-2005, 02:48 PM
Mercedes-Benz sold about 16,000 SLK roadster in 2004, about 9,000 just in Germany..how many Z4's did BMW sell? I am just curious, dont wanna mock BMW.

Tidal
03-20-2005, 03:26 PM
Europe wide sales of the models are:<p>BMW Z4 <p> 2003 - 23011<br> 2004 - 18487<br> 2005 ( Jan ) - 917<br> <br>MB SLK <p> 2003 - 14602<br> 2004 - 38491<br> 2005 ( Jan ) - 3506<p>Porsche Boxster <p> 2003 - 8224<br> 2004 - 7552<br> 2005 ( Jan ) - 798<p>Source is Automotive News Europe <br>

Santeno
04-26-2005, 12:11 PM
here are some pics from autoreveu.cz showing the 3-door variant of the 1 series testing at what looks like the Nurburgring, or, as kebabgud was kind enough to suggest, a highway:<p><IMG SRC="http://www.autorevue.cz/Images/4463/11.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.autorevue.cz/Images/4463/22.jpg" BORDER="0"><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Santeno at 9:57 AM 5/6/2005</i>

Fcuke
04-26-2005, 01:09 PM
Nice rims on this one! :P<p>Going to be a nice car. Maybe cheaper than the current? And what about a stationwagon of this one? I've heard some rumours obut that as well..

Superfresa
04-26-2005, 07:33 PM
Nice cars, both the 2 Series cabrio and the Z2. I hope they look that nice, and that they're affordable.

protocatcher
04-27-2005, 01:36 AM
If im not mistaken , the pics of the 3-door 1-series are old . We have seen the 3-door prototypes during winthertest 2 years ago, but not the last years . And i remember to have seen thost pics from Pascal before.

carrera4
04-27-2005, 01:40 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>protocatcher</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If im not mistaken , the pics of the 3-door 1-series are old . We have seen the 3-door prototypes during winthertest 2 years ago, but not the last years . And i remember to have seen thost pics from Pascal before.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>yeah, me too. I think they were some months before the 5 door debut...

davidChief
04-27-2005, 02:14 PM
Anyone know how long it will be until the 130i hits UK roads?

brownjigga
04-28-2005, 09:03 AM
heres some pixs of 1-Series Saloon & Coupe<p><A HREF="http://www.bmw2002.co.uk/1-series-coupe%20apr%2005.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bmw2002.co.uk/1-ser...5.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.bmw2002.co.uk/1-series-saloon%20apr%2005.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bmw2002.co.uk/1-ser...5.jpg</A><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Santeno at 12:13 PM 4/28/2005</i>

Santeno
04-28-2005, 09:14 AM
Sorry Brownjigga, those pics are over a year old and they are photoshops made from pictures of the current 4-door 1 series, while it was testing last year in scandinavia.

phi
05-01-2005, 12:59 PM
does someone know when the 3door makes its debut? i heard something about 2007, but my bmw-dealer said he doesn't know for sure but he's expecting it in 2006 !?

badman
05-01-2005, 03:02 PM
Should be out early next year.

AM2K
11-24-2005, 01:25 PM
New pictures showing the 3 door variant of the 1-series testing undisguised:<p><A HREF="http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/8307/1seriesb6mh.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img122.imageshack.us/im...h.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://img423.imageshack.us/img423/203/1seriesa3wi.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img423.imageshack.us/im...i.jpg</A><p>Source: Autocar

ROCKETMAN
11-24-2005, 02:44 PM
I'd say it looks better than the 5 door.

~*~STORM~*~
11-24-2005, 03:21 PM
they should have atleast designed the 3 door as a bit of a extra sporty 5 door.For me its just the same design hacked.. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>If citroen can do it i thought BMW could also easily do it

geary
11-24-2005, 03:35 PM
Storm I can't agree more. They could at least make the coupe look sporty - I'd go for the 4-door and have the same image.<p>Maybe a extended bootlid or lowered roofline (think Astra Coupe) would be an idea, Chris.

phi
11-24-2005, 05:39 PM
question is: when will it hit the market?

T.B.
11-25-2005, 03:14 AM
Scott:<p>1. When 3-door 1er will hit the markets? <p>2. Will the existance of this car anyhow influence decision of (not)building other variants of 1er: 2er coupe, cabrio, roadster, shooting-brake? <p>3. Is it known yet which models will US market get?

scott26
11-25-2005, 11:28 AM
1. When 3-door 1er will hit the markets? <p> <B>In Germany the 3dr will be on sale about late April , early May.</B><p>2. Will the existance of this car anyhow influence decision of (not)building other variants of 1er: 2er coupe, cabrio, roadster, shooting-brake? <br> <br> <B>The product plan for the E8 platform calls for no overlapping with the 3er 's market. So with the 1er we can be adventurous - The success of the 1er means that we can enhance flexibility and create niche premium compact cars. That is why a sedan is (for now) out of the question as is a conventional wagon ( Touring) .<br> Confirmed for this product plan is a Coupe and a Cabrio (Cs1 Concept) - models that will appeal to the USA market where premium compacts are shunned.<br>A roadster is also expected. The most exciting will be a 3dr Touring coupe like the old 1600/2000 touring which along with the roadster is undergoing project evalutation , The touring is easily done as developed off the Coupe which will be flexible to accomodate the Touring and of course the cabrio body design.</B><p>3. Is it known yet which models will US market get?<p><B>For certain the Coupe and Cabrio and possibly the Roadster- Like I said models that will be more appealing to the U.S marketAnd of course the M variants..</B><p>

shonguiz
11-25-2005, 02:13 PM
I can also confirm That M1 is under developpement so Bye bye 135i ??

MtViewGuy188
11-25-2005, 08:36 PM
I think we may see a two-door coup and cabrio versions of the 1-series at NAIAS in January 2006, probably powered by the 3.0-liter I-6 215 bhp engine used on the E90 3-Series sedans. They'll probably start sales in the USA mid to late Summer 2006 as 2007 models.

Hornbag
11-26-2005, 02:26 AM
Good, i dont want a 1 series sedan. As hard as BMW may try, the 3 series looks to be a small as a flame-surfaced BMW sedan can go...any smaller and it would look disaterous! Im not keen on a 3 door either, wouldnt it look kinda long and cramped with an upright rear end and huge rear-side window?

Arturo
11-26-2005, 04:10 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>scott26</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Confirmed for this product plan is a Coupe and a Cabrio (Cs1 Concept). A roadster is also expected. The most exciting will be a 3dr Touring coupe like the old 1600/2000 touring.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I don't grasp this: what's the use of a Z2 roadster if we're to get the CS1 (a very nice concept car)? And even of some1 can make me understand that, then my next Q would be: and how will the 3-door Touring coup be different from a 3-door 1-series? I'd say that the latter 2 would be very much the same ...

phi
11-26-2005, 12:22 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>scott26</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1. When 3-door 1er will hit the markets? <p> <B>In Germany the 3dr will be on sale about late April , early May.</B><p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>The Z4 Facelift will go on Sale in March - dealers have already information about it. Why don't they have any about the three door 1 series? I wish it would go on sale in late April/early May - but I doubt it.

AM2
11-26-2005, 12:41 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hilton</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Good, i dont want a 1 series sedan. As hard as BMW may try, the 3 series looks to be a small as a flame-surfaced BMW sedan can go...any smaller and it would look disaterous!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Disasterous? It depends... I guess BMW wants to fill the gap left when the 3-series got bigger. Compare the new e90 to the smaller e36.<br>e36<br><IMG SRC="http://img2.autos.yahoo.co.jp/autos_cat/chkimg.html?file=BM/BM_3_1_1001_front.JPG&size=l" BORDER="0"><p><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by AM2 at 3:49 AM 11/27/2005</i>

Velocitas
11-26-2005, 01:25 PM
<br>BMW definitely needs the 1 series. Anyone who loves the old 2002 can only be sad at how fat BMWs have become. The Z2 has a spot as a replacement for the old Z3, which was a nice, neat package. The problem with the Z4 is that it has also suffered from BMW-bloat.<br>

T.B.
11-26-2005, 02:11 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Arturo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I don't grasp this: what's the use of a Z2 roadster if we're to get the CS1 (a very nice concept car)? And even of some1 can make me understand that, then my next Q would be: and how will the 3-door Touring coup be different from a 3-door 1-series? I'd say that the latter 2 would be very much the same ...</TD></TR></TABLE><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>shonguiz</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>I can also confirm That M1 is under developpement so Bye bye 135i ??<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>I'm also interested in those matters ...<p>So, why having a roadster when already having a small cabrio (2er) with almost useless back seats. <br>And why Touring Coupe when 2er coupe and 1er 3&5-door hatch are there?<p>And again: can 135i with 330HP and M1 with 340-350HP co-exist? I guess not ...<p>And finally: will coupe and cabrio wear 2er badge or will the board follow 3er/4er case = dismissing 2er?

Chicho
12-09-2005, 03:25 AM
<br><A HREF="http://www.autobild.de/projektor/galerie.php?artikel_id=10298&pos=0" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autobild.de/projekt...pos=0</A>

deveraux
12-09-2005, 04:55 AM
there will never be a 135i, and i also doubt in a M1 as hatchback.<br>the 130i has enough power to beat the current top-range of golf, astra... and for sure can compete with the next S3<br>there wouldn't be enough people to buy 130 and 135<p>and don't you think that the M1 will be on the coupe-platform?? i don't mean the two-door 1er

salebg
12-09-2005, 09:32 AM
<A HREF="http://forums.autoweek.com/servlet/JiveServlet/download/31-24244-549954-24467/dec6bm_1.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.autoweek.com/ser...1.jpg</A>

carmaniac
12-09-2005, 02:45 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>salebg</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><A HREF="http://forums.autoweek.com/servlet/JiveServlet/download/31-24244-549954-24467/dec6bm_1.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.autoweek.com/ser...1.jpg</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Official?!?!? you have got to be kidding me. I see a hybrid chop of the 320si and a 130i M.

StevenZoz
12-12-2005, 01:48 PM
<A HREF="http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/7536/bm11ih.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/7536/bm11ih.jpg</A>

against the wall
12-12-2005, 04:34 PM
are there any 3 door sedans out there? there are a lot of 3 door hatchbacks but i dont recall any sedans.<p>edit: boy am i a dumb***. there is no such thing as a 3 door sedan. its called a coupe. doy. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0">

spwolf
12-12-2005, 05:10 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>stevenzoz</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><A HREF="http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/7536/bm11ih.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/7536/bm11ih.jpg</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p>someone tell me this is horrible chop, please, please, please!!!!

shonguiz
12-13-2005, 02:34 AM
It's it's it's <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

drugmirko
12-13-2005, 02:51 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>spwolf</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br><A HREF="http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/7536/bm11ih.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/7536/bm11ih.jpg</A><br>someone tell me this is horrible chop, please, please, please!!!!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>yep! and made out of this!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icon11.gif" BORDER="0"> :<p><A HREF="http://www.geoffhaylesautos.com.au/Hyundai/Accent/accent%203door.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.geoffhaylesautos.co...r.jpg</A><p>this is what you get when you join Bangles design with A LOT of average german taste <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0"> ! like they did with 7 series... it lost all of it's unic caracter but it gained likability in general masses of Golf drivers! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0">

tobajara
01-11-2006, 10:55 AM
<A HREF="http://www.germancarfans.com/spyphotos.cfm/spyphotoid/6060111.001" TARGET="_blank">http://www.germancarfans.com/s...1.001</A><p>BMW series 1 3 doors

Ash_Barrett
01-11-2006, 02:02 PM
Lovely car ! I liked the 5 doors 1 serie and the 3 door is really elegant.

kuules
01-13-2006, 06:05 AM
<A HREF="http://www.germancarfans.com/spyphotos/6060113.001/6060113.001.Mini3L.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.germancarfans.com/s...L.jpg</A>

Reppu
01-13-2006, 11:20 PM
This car looks so much better than the 5 door. It almost looks like it always was intended to be a three door only, and afterwards they decided to make a five door from it somehow. The five door is so wrongly proportioned, this one's just fine.

aphophis
02-06-2006, 07:13 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">At the upcoming Geneva Motor Show BMW will release the sporty three-door variant of the current 1 Series model which so far was available as a five-door only. <p>However, this will not be the only variant of BMW’s smallest model, here are the very first pictures of the future 1 Series Cabrio, taken during a short test drive in Munich’s city traffic. The prototype in the photos still has some BMW typical disguise on, yet clearly visible is the canvas top. <p>While the 1 Series sporty three door will be in the dealerships coming this summer, the convertible’s launch cannot be expected before at least a year from now. </TD></TR></TABLE><p> <A HREF="http://forum.softpedia.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=88317" TARGET="_blank">http://forum.softpedia.com/ind...88317</A> <br> <A HREF="http://forum.softpedia.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=88318" TARGET="_blank">http://forum.softpedia.com/ind...88318</A> <br> <A HREF="http://forum.softpedia.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=88319" TARGET="_blank">http://forum.softpedia.com/ind...88319</A> <br> <A HREF="http://forum.softpedia.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=88320" TARGET="_blank">http://forum.softpedia.com/ind...88320</A> <br> <A HREF="http://forum.softpedia.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=88321" TARGET="_blank">http://forum.softpedia.com/ind...88321</A> <br> <A HREF="http://forum.softpedia.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=88322" TARGET="_blank">http://forum.softpedia.com/ind...88322</A>

adambravo
02-06-2006, 09:16 AM
Can't be a 1 Series; hood cut and headlamp disguises are the wrong shape, and, unless they've replaced ALL the front end sheetmetal, there's no sharp crease that runs just below the beltline (clearly visible on the 1 Series 5D). Strangely enough, it has to be a 3 Series...

enit
02-06-2006, 09:43 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>adambravo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can't be a 1 Series; hood cut and headlamp disguises are the wrong shape, and, unless they've replaced ALL the front end sheetmetal, there's no sharp crease that runs just below the beltline (clearly visible on the 1 Series 5D). Strangely enough, it has to be a 3 Series...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The car is heavily ladded with plastic cladding all over. Like all initial BMW test mules with original bodyshell. In the next phase they'll start to use lighter camo. It is 1er cabrio.

sashok
02-06-2006, 11:54 AM
or maybe a 3er compakt?

SHEPO
02-06-2006, 01:14 PM
i hope this is brought to the U.S...

scott26
02-06-2006, 02:33 PM
It is the Cabrio . <p>At the wheel is the projekt manager for this programme , this is the unit taking the first prototype or their new (baby) taking it's first steps , the coupe follows in the next week.<p>BMW acknowledge that both coupe and cabrio introduces this series to the USA.

enit
02-06-2006, 02:47 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>scott26</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">At the wheel is the projekt manager for this programme , </TD></TR></TABLE><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/eek2.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cool.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/aliensmiley.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

GoLeafsGO
02-06-2006, 03:21 PM
since the current 3-series convertible easily hits $50,000 USD, this will be a welcome addition to the us market.<p>after the bmw 318ti debacle in the states, bmw usa said no 4 cylinder engines ever again. any thoughts anyone?

Smart22186
02-06-2006, 03:53 PM
if you look at the picture from the side, it does almost look the same as a 3er compact, almost exact size<br>also this car will be based on the Cs1 concept, which was pretty much a production version anyway,

the cheddar
02-07-2006, 08:17 AM
Clearly the 1-series, as Scott26 has confirmed for us -- The proportions are nowhere near the 3, every panel is covered and it's not a photochop (the background bricks, vegetation and bars seem far too detailed to fill that well). <p>Can't wait to see the coupe! It'll obviously share similar proportions and this one is very, very nice. After all the bad chops we saw based on Hyundais I'm feeling a little bit of relief seeing this! And knowing it'll make it to the US is, well, long-overdue! <p>Any idea when I can expect to sell my current car for this? MY2008 maybe? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

spikes111
02-21-2006, 08:44 AM
Some new spyshots and a rendition of what it'll look like. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><A HREF="http://www.cult1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=179" TARGET="_blank">http://www.cult1.com/forums/showthread.php?t=179</A><p>

Blob
02-21-2006, 11:28 AM
the 1 series concept gives a good idea of what it will look like<p> <IMG SRC="http://www.bmwinfo.com/0216.jpg" BORDER="0">

the cheddar
02-22-2006, 10:37 AM
With all that cladding it looks like an old Audi 90! I'm hoping this will be a turbo-4 cyl so it can be priced reasonably. The 3.0 liter might be too expensive for this market. A $28-30k coupe would be very nice and the smaller size is most welcome to me. The 3-series has grown a bit too big for my taste. That light, flingable feel that previous 3-series' had was what made its reputation. If this could recreate that E30 size and feeling, I'd be the first in line... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Scott26, say it's so!

nstreet16
02-23-2006, 01:13 PM
they should just leave the body style like the 1 series concept convertible. people liked it.

DSC-OFF
04-21-2006, 08:22 AM
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scott26
04-25-2006, 02:27 PM
The convertible and coupe will follow closely the overall ideas of the CS1 Concept - The idea was just too precious to toss away - Knowing how much the car appealed not only in it's Geneva debut but BMW also shipped it over to the USA for the 02 NY Autoshow where it also had exceptional appeal . Whilst Europe are expecting a range of engines similar to the 1er the US markets will receive a 223i and a 235i . With the emphasis firmly on driver enjoyment for the Baby coupe the Benchmark is of course the 2002 and it's inheritor the E30. But with driver enjoyment much the focus that BMW are evaluating the unorthodox choices : such as the lotus Elise for handling and precision. The Baby M car when it arrives will use an engine developed from the WTCC car only with six cylinders and close to over 350 BHP. The four cylinder model badged Si will be available in the 3dr 1er giving BMW a rival to the Golf GTi .<p>All edited!<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by scott26 at 4:00 PM 4/25/2006</i>

enit
04-25-2006, 02:39 PM
So, 235i with bi-turbo I6 with 306PS, and also M2 with I6 NA engine with 300PS.<p>Why would someone (especially in US) buy more expensive M2 with same power output as 235i.<p>Also strange: BMW NA going to offer same engine in top 2er coupe like in top 3er coupe? Sounds stupid and so non-BMWish. A marketing disaster!<p>Scott, explain please!

enit
04-25-2006, 05:41 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>scott26</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> All edited!</TD></TR></TABLE><p><br>Still confused. <p>235i - 306PS, 335i - 306PS<br>Z4M - 343PS, M2 - 350+PS, M3 - 407PS.<p>Marketing dept. - especially at the BMW NA - would rather kill itself than did something like this.<p>Positioning M2 over the Z4M??? Sure! Only less than 50PS between M2 and M3??? Sure! Top 2er coupe 235i with same engine with top 3er coupe 335i?? Sure!<p>C'mon Scottie, you are blowing it!<p><br>Also - your words:<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>scott26</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Six cylinder power will also come with the current 130i but the forthcoming BMW(with development input from alpina) turbo charged petrol engine soon to be introduced ( dismissing inaccurate US dealer reports) in the forthcoming E92 3er coupe . <p><B>The dilema with this engine is the equivalent of going swimming with weights - ie too nose heavy so this has been reserved for the 3er products upward.</B><p>Another dilema is the inevitable M version . Originally idea of using current M3 six cylinder engine undertaken but decided against for three reasons .<br>One - Again it is a heavy engine with weight issue , Two - The BMW MZ4 roadster and coupe will feature these engines and thirdly - That Premium compact performance models due not impact into price structure of other segments. <B>Hence the decision to cap the performance of the new baby M car at just under 300 BHP </B>as rivals do not really go above that territory.<p>The new engine by BMW Motorsport will be based on engine that will feature in the 120Si but be upgraded to have about under 300 BHP - <B>only four cylinders</B> but with the Z4 at six and M3 and eight and the M5 and M6 respectively at 10 - The perfect family unit.</TD></TR></TABLE><p><br>Flip - Flop! Flip - Flop!<p><br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by enit at 2:53 AM 4/26/2006</i>

Roadster44
04-25-2006, 10:50 PM
That little sucker will sell, but I predict its rear legroom will be tiny, so its either that or a <br>3-series.

scott26
04-26-2006, 01:15 PM
In 2008 the Z4 roadster will be entering it's final year of production , at this time both Z4M roadster and Z4M Coupe will inherit the new M3's V8 - With the baby M car entering production of 2008 it makes sense to enter this segment with an Mcar - the entry M car at about 350 PS. And remember with the current mainstream models being fettled nothing has been decided as yet in relation to the Mcar. But as always at BMW the creative fountain is flowing.

enit
04-26-2006, 01:41 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>scott26</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In 2008 the Z4 roadster will be entering it's final year of production , at this time both Z4M roadster and Z4M Coupe will inherit the new M3's V8 - With the baby M car entering production of 2008 it makes sense to enter this segment with an Mcar - the entry M car at about 350 PS. And remember with the current mainstream models being fettled nothing has been decided as yet in relation to the Mcar. But as always at BMW the creative fountain is flowing. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>OK. I'll buy this.<p>But what about same top engine for 2er & 3er mainstream coupes: N54 bi-turbo. That's strange. Especially for US market. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

Blob
05-21-2006, 02:47 AM
will there be a z5 to replace the z4?

the1
05-31-2006, 03:24 PM
<A HREF="http://news.auto.cz/img/galleries/x40_447d52e2c704a.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://news.auto.cz/img/galler...a.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://news.auto.cz/img/galleries/x80_447d52e2cc675.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://news.auto.cz/img/galler...5.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://news.auto.cz/img/galleries/20_447d52e2d33a9.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://news.auto.cz/img/galler...9.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://news.auto.cz/img/galleries/21_447d52e2dc488.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://news.auto.cz/img/galler...8.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://news.auto.cz/img/galleries/22_447d52e2e0a68.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://news.auto.cz/img/galler...8.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://news.auto.cz/img/galleries/40_447d52e2e44ff.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://news.auto.cz/img/galler...f.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://news.auto.cz/img/galleries/41_447d52e2e6ff6.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://news.auto.cz/img/galler...6.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://news.auto.cz/img/galleries/80_447d52e2e972e.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://news.auto.cz/img/galler...e.jpg</A><p>Not bad.

Smart22186
05-31-2006, 10:57 PM
i bet they hope it dont rain, that will wash that camo right off lol, is that the M1?

MtViewGuy188
05-31-2006, 11:56 PM
We still have have to ask this question: <i>will BMW offer something based on the 1-Series in the USA</i>? My guess is that BMW may make an announcement soon that the two-door convertible and three-door coup 1-Series derivatives (which will be called <i>2-Series</i>) will be built at BMW's Spartanberg, SC assembly line (which eliminates much of the issues of the poor US dollar/Euro exchange rate) for the North American market and we will see it powered by turbocharged 2.0-liter I-4 engine rated at 185 bhp and the 3.0-liter I-6 with the full three-stage induction system rated at 255 bhp. Of course, transmission choices will be either six-speed manual or six-speed automatic.

scorpio14
06-01-2006, 01:21 AM
Im pretty sure i read there will be no M1....

~*~STORM~*~
06-01-2006, 03:29 AM
arent the front wheel arches bulging in the above photos??

jts
06-01-2006, 07:50 PM
i reckon this will be one of the coolest 3dr hatches ever built

CosworthKid
06-01-2006, 10:43 PM
Yeah, i love the 1 and the 3-door looks even better. Was hoping for a different set of headlamps though..these still look too big for its size

spikes111
06-07-2006, 03:31 PM
So what's the deal? Is the coupe going to be called the 1-series coupe or 2-series coupe?

AM2
06-08-2006, 12:17 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Blob</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">will there be a z5 to replace the z4?</TD></TR></TABLE>I think the Z4 will remain a Z4, but I think BMW plans to add a larger Z6 which is a Z8-sized roadster.

gawid
06-23-2006, 09:52 AM
<A HREF="http://www.ewanskelly.net/picture.php?cat=recent_pics&image_id=439" TARGET="_blank">http://www.ewanskelly.net/pict...d=439</A><p><A HREF="http://www.ewanskelly.net/picture.php?cat=recent_pics&image_id=438" TARGET="_blank">http://www.ewanskelly.net/pict...d=438</A>

spikes111
06-27-2006, 11:07 PM
<B>Video from <A HREF="http://www.2addicts.com" TARGET="_blank">2addicts</A> of cabrio / convertible testing </B><p><br><A HREF="http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=233" TARGET="_blank">http://www.2addicts.com/forums...t=233</A><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by spikes111 at 5:07 PM 11/7/2006</i>

David911
07-13-2006, 01:17 AM
The 1-series coupe, or maybe 2-series or Z2:<br><A HREF="http://auto-future.blogspot.com/2006/07/2009-bmw-coupe-2-series-z2.html" TARGET="_blank">http://auto-future.blogspot.co....html</A><p>Scott26: what do you think of this CGI?<br>Also, you mention 4-cylinder engine for the M-version. Is that information reliable, considering that the Audi S3 (and RS3) as well as other compacts (Golf R32, Alfa 147) have 6-cylinder models?<br>

the1
07-13-2006, 03:51 AM
That looks hot!

spikes111
07-13-2006, 04:59 AM
I think these are probably more accurate of the 1/2-series coupe. I doubt they'd make it as different as the autozeitung ones, but who knows because that one looks great!<p><A HREF="http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=209" TARGET="_blank">http://www.2addicts.com/forums...t=209</A>

chinesedesigner
07-14-2006, 10:22 PM
i love everything except the headlights. They should have made the lights sleeker

spikes111
07-17-2006, 08:03 AM
Scott, any news on what BMW is doing with the 1 or 2 series for the US?

scott26
07-17-2006, 11:42 AM
As I explained previously BMW have only plans to introduce to the US market the Coupe and Cabrio off the E87 Platform. <br>With scoop sightings in the USA and Autospies claiming that the hatchback is definetely coming could not be further from the truth .<p>The 1er cars currently pounding US roads are specifically hot weather testing engines such as the low end turbo expected to be badged as a 123i when the 3dr sports coupe launches later this year.<br>Several Cabrios are now undergoing Hot weather testing in the USA now.<p>Uniquely for a BMW Internationally the Cabrio will appear first before the Coupe placing it directly in the target area for fun seeking young and old Californians.<br>The Coupe will follow a few months after.<p>It is true that BMW considered a Z roadster based off the E87 platform but the project which got to the full size clay model stage was put on ice, The reason being that the Z4 was being replaced first - with the next Z4 BMW are intent on making a more focused Boxster rival leaving a space for a smaller Z model a small Z Coupe is also mooted but all this will happen if it does after the next Z4 and 1er are launched - in reality about 5 years.<p>Although the widespread plan for the current E87 spawned ideas from basic hatch - X and Z but for overlap of some projects where put on ice - concentrating on key market integration : Europe/Asia - 3dr /5dr hatch and US- 2dr Coupe /Cabrio.<p>Incidentally the E87 Cabrio has gathered as much exposure as possible to whet the appetites for the upcoming Coupe and Cabrio - Every BMW dealer in Germany has customer interest and pre-order for these coming models , And interest in the USA, UK Asia , Australia and other countries is further attracting immense interest. Not forgetting pre-orders.- <p>With no rivals on the horizon - look how Audi have moved forward the A3 Cabrio they know The overall look of the BMW thanks to the <B>BMW Concept Car CS1</B>, They know that after the fake panel disguise comes off in it's FEP stage in a few weeks. it is going to be extremely popular.

spikes111
07-21-2006, 07:19 AM
Thanks for that Scott!<p><br>Just read this off <A HREF="http://www.2addicts.com" TARGET="_blank">2addicts</A>. Is this saying that the 2-series coupe/cabrio you're talking about will actually be called the "Z2" instead of just "2-series"? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>____________________<br><i>We can reveal that BMW is set to unleash a sporty three-door coup which will blend the company's reputation for building exciting drivers' cars with low prices like never before.<p>Called the Z2, the machine revealed here will spearhead a new class of desirable, affordable coups, and it's set to go head-to-head with Volkswagen's new Scirocco. <p>This is the new baby BMW many sports car fans have been waiting for. Based on the 1-Series platform, the rear-wheel-drive, front-engined model will be available as either a coup or roadster, and both variants will offer a competitively priced alternative to the next-generation Z4 sports models.<p>The Z2 will be the last member of the expanding 1-Series family to arrive - both three-door and cabriolet variants will have gone on sale before it. <p>Advanced prototype versions of these two models have already been caught on test by Auto Express spy photographers. The imminent introduction of the 3-Series CC - with its folding metal roof - has left a gap in the range for a fabric-top cabrio, hence the launch of the 1-Series convertible.<p>Yet while BMW's new 1-Series variants are set to be unveiled next year, the Z2 will remain under wraps for a bit longer. Expected to appear in 2009, its launch is being timed to coincide with the on-sale date of the second-generation Z4. BMW is concentrating on offering a pure driving experience with the Z2, and it will be tuned to be sportier than the rest of the 1-Series line-up. Although engines will be borrowed from the 1, by the time the new model goes on sale, the company will have added the latest turbocharged units to the hatchback range. <p>The flagship twin-turbo powerplant is shared with the new 335i Coup, and will deliver blistering performance, while a naturally aspirated 3.0-litre straight-six will also be offered. The majority of Z2 variants sold will come with four-cylinder engines as BMW tries to keep prices to a minimum.<p>To ensure the new machine has the looks to match its performance, it will be given extra visual muscle with the use of short front and rear overhangs and a large BMW front grille. Other design cues will be adopted from the maker's Mille Miglia Concept Coup, which was revealed in May this year.<p>Inside, the coup variant above has room for four. The design of the dash will be similar to that of the 1-Series, while keeping costs down without compromising quality will be a priority.<p>The convertible model's fabric hood will save weight, space and cost. BMW engineers are set to use the same fully electric mechanism as the Z4 Roadster, and the top will disappear in a matter of seconds at the touch of a button.<p>While it's far too early for BMW to be disclosing specification details, prices for the Z2 are likely to start at around 19,000 for entry-level variants, rising to 30,000 for flagship models.<p>Yet these small sports models won't be the only addition to the Z-car line-up. At the top of the range, the German giant will reintroduce the Z8. <p>The exclusive V8-powered two-seat roadster was originally launched back in 2000, and its successor will aim to move BMW into the supercar elite once again. Expect to see a completely new V10-engined Z8 in 2009.</i>

David911
07-21-2006, 09:11 AM
scott26, you English has improved alot...<br>

against the wall
07-21-2006, 10:00 AM
hold up, 3 door coupe? so itll be like a sportback like the tt concept? this could make audi build the tt sportback. or whatever its called.

advevo
07-31-2006, 01:07 PM
BMW develops its top 1-series model <br>Automaker will launch a 306-hp version of its smallest car <br>In spring 2007, BMW will crown its 1-series lineup with a new top model, the 135i, powered by a turbocharged, 3.0-liter, direct-injection gasoline engine. With its 306 horsepower, the 135i's output will be 41 hp more than the current top 1-series offering, the 130i. story Published: 7/31/06 10:44 AM <p>So bmw is doing it. We can forget an M version. <p>I can t believe it. All the big heavy ones get an M threatment. Now bmw has gold in there hands with the lighter more agile one series. What do they do? They put a more heavy 6cil in it with turbo s. The 130i was enough non M. This is just a cheap choice to put the 135i in it to shut us up. <p>unbelieveable.<p><br>

Bimma
07-31-2006, 04:55 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>advevo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BMW develops its top 1-series model <br>Automaker will launch a 306-hp version of its smallest car <br>In spring 2007, BMW will crown its 1-series lineup with a new top model, the 135i, powered by a turbocharged, 3.0-liter, direct-injection gasoline engine. With its 306 horsepower, the 135i's output will be 41 hp more than the current top 1-series offering, the 130i. story Published: 7/31/06 10:44 AM <p>So bmw is doing it. We can forget an M version. <p>I can t believe it. All the big heavy ones get an M threatment. Now bmw has gold in there hands with the lighter more agile one series. What do they do? They put a more heavy 6cil in it with turbo s. The 130i was enough non M. This is just a cheap choice to put the 135i in it to shut us up. <p>unbelieveable.<p><br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>REALLY!!?? if it's true, i think many 550 650 750 760 335 M3 drivers will cry cuz they'll get beaten up by a 135! if i were them, i would complain to bmw about it. and who would like to pay much more for a car and get the feeling that can't do anything about some 135 wanna beat u in a race on street!? lol <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/drink.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/moon_1_D.gif" BORDER="0">

knicks125
08-16-2006, 02:52 PM
<A HREF="http://www.worldcarfans.com/rsslink.cfm/article/6060816.004/bmw/spy-photos-bmw-135ti" TARGET="_blank">http://www.worldcarfans.com/rs...135ti</A>

Mr. Fusion
08-17-2006, 04:41 AM
X1:<p><A HREF="http://www.autospies.com/images/users/Agent001/SP32-20060816-221437.jpg" TARGET="_blank">Click Here</A><p>Source: Autobild

CosworthKid
08-17-2006, 07:36 AM
That should be interesting but won't it clash with X3? Body looks similar to some Audi Q3 chops

spikes111
11-07-2006, 06:08 PM
few new pix <p><A HREF="http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1303#post1303" TARGET="_blank">http://www.2addicts.com/forums...t1303</A>

VexedandGlorious
11-10-2006, 06:25 PM
its cute, ill give it that...i didnt know the two was confirmed..i still shocked that V5 was "delayed" caused of the design teams designs

spikes111
11-17-2006, 07:11 AM
<A HREF="http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1345#post1345" TARGET="_blank">http://www.2addicts.com/forums...t1345</A><p>new latest pix. can see rear lights a bit more.

CosworthKid
11-17-2006, 01:07 PM
It almost looks as cute as a MINI convertible, i wonder what the price difference between the 2 will be

mzoltarp
11-17-2006, 08:25 PM
Of course by the time ANY version of the BMW 1 or 2 series arrives it will be time for the chassis to be replaced. The lag time to the US market is insane.

zebby
11-17-2006, 11:06 PM
Looks alright, but do not know if it is just me, but it reminds me a bit of the Rover 216 Cabrio.<p> <IMG SRC="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v34/zebby/rover.jpg" BORDER="0">

Mil
11-18-2006, 01:56 AM
Yeah ^^...<br>Wouldnt it be quite expensice though?<br>The 1-series goes to 25000+ so wouldnt the coupe/convertable be quite a bit more than that?

spikes111
12-08-2006, 08:55 AM
First true 3dr 1-series spotted<p><A HREF="http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=343" TARGET="_blank">http://www.2addicts.com/forums...t=343</A><p>No fake doorlines or anything. So much sexier than the 5-door version <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0">

[AP]adiweb
12-08-2006, 01:02 PM
looks good overall. the new front bumper is fine, yet i wish they would have done more to the back lights.

VexedandGlorious
12-08-2006, 01:12 PM
nice looking this ones coming to america right.

Reppu
12-09-2006, 04:40 AM
To me, this variant is a lot better than the 5 door. The car cabin is simply too short to fit four doors in a proportionate way. In fact, all reviews i've read critizise the fact that there's no space to pass your feet in the lower part of ther rear door, the space is that short!. The 3 door variant should have been the first to come out, i don't get why is it taking so long (to protect the 3er compact maybe?)

fantomas76
12-09-2006, 01:07 PM
...and look, there's no frame over the window! Very coupish.

knicks125
12-12-2006, 12:21 PM
<A HREF="http://germancarscene.com/2006/12/11/bmw-135ti-spotted" TARGET="_blank">http://germancarscene.com/2006...otted</A>/

AM2K
12-12-2006, 12:37 PM
It would be good fun to see if one of the engineers or testers forget that this prototype is actually a 3-door, and then pull of the fake door handle stuck on the rear part of the car <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0">

jro
12-12-2006, 01:24 PM
those are huge rear windows, it almost could have four doors

the1
12-30-2006, 09:49 AM
The white 3door looks great in that colour and with those wheels. Love it. A lot better than the 5door.<p><IMG SRC="http://www.2addicts.com/forums/images/smilies/worshipbmw.gif" BORDER="0">

kilibre
01-09-2007, 05:01 PM
Hi<p><A HREF="http://www.racewaynews.net/articolo.php?a_id=1380" TARGET="_blank">http://www.racewaynews.net/articolo.php?a_id=1380</A><p>See ya!<br>E.

DoMiNo
01-09-2007, 05:21 PM
Is this official? Maybe it should be moved to the Spy Pics section.<p>Am I alone in preferring the look of the current model?

knihc2008
01-09-2007, 05:30 PM
I will miss the days when radical BMWs were "radical full tilt," and not "sort of radical... now with woops-we-screwed-up boring facelift!"

the1
01-09-2007, 05:58 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>DoMiNo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Am I alone in preferring the look of the current model?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Why would you? Nothing changed, except for the lower part of the front bumper, the tail lights and in a mild way, the interior.

haji
01-09-2007, 07:38 PM
<IMG SRC="http://www.racewaynews.net/immagini/articoli/1380/1a.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>cant really tell where theyve facelifted

Gian86
01-09-2007, 07:46 PM
It look like it because of different light lamps than normal 1-Series hatchback.

GoLeafsGO
01-09-2007, 08:57 PM
With the 328i starting at $33,000 USD (and rarely selling at that 0 options price), the 1 would be greatly appreciated in the US. But alas, BMW has a bad taste in its mouth about BMW-branded hatchbacks here. And BMW already has a car in the $20,000s USD here, the Mini. The 1 still looks great to me.<br>

kilibre
01-10-2007, 12:52 AM
IT'S AN OFFICIAL VIDEO AND A BIG SCOOP!<p>The lights are new (the angel are bigger) and there's new lines under the front lights and also new bumper. There's some news also in the back, with a little LED area, and new interiors.<p>E.

Ascariss
01-10-2007, 01:54 AM
no press images or press release from bmw, no thread in new cars area.

CosworthKid
01-10-2007, 04:03 AM
Just your average facelift. If you like current car then you should still like this one

the1
01-10-2007, 01:08 PM
The 3door looks better than the 5door, especially this white one.<p><IMG SRC="http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/8467/lagunaii008yi8.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>autoscoops.be<p>Film: <A HREF="http://www.racewaynews.net/articolo.php?a_id=1381" TARGET="_blank">http://www.racewaynews.net/articolo.php?a_id=1381</A><p><IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.nl/images/480/5/e1259729019d6a9bf8cbb9f5c55895c5.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.nl/images/480/3/5164242fb7af2b029f8cbecc86100f03.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.nl/images/480/a/2aafd906239bebc38309f7984dd95efa.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.nl/images/480/3/5b847ff16890de6c9a5d61672df25be3.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.nl/images/480/6/f9eed87fef081f38fa96ac59075acf16.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.racewaynews.net/immagini/articoli/1381/4a.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.racewaynews.net/immagini/articoli/1381/12a.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>autoweek.nl/racewaynews.net<br>

against the wall
01-10-2007, 07:28 PM
the picture of the car with the lights on makes it look cross eyed and kinda dumb looking.

scottdog02
01-11-2007, 03:22 AM
material on the doors at last

Gromit
01-11-2007, 05:26 AM
I've always liked the 1-series. The 3-door looks damn fine.

CosworthKid
01-11-2007, 06:23 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Gromit</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've always liked the 1-series. The 3-door looks damn fine.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Ditto <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0">

SHEPO
02-03-2007, 04:28 PM
Two-door coupe spotted:<p><A HREF="http://www.leftlanenews.com/2007/02/03/spied-bmw-1-series-coupe" TARGET="_blank">http://www.leftlanenews.com/20...coupe</A>/

knihc2008
02-03-2007, 06:50 PM
That looks... awkward. I think the greenhouse camo is doing a good job of making this car look ugly, but I still don't like it's very... tall proportions. Imo, the 1er hatchback shape didn't translate very well at all.

Gromit
02-04-2007, 03:11 AM
I wonder if it's a coupe, or a disguised convertible?

spikes111
02-04-2007, 06:34 AM
That's a coupe. It looks different than the spied convertibles:<p>convertible pics: <A HREF="http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=190" TARGET="_blank">http://www.2addicts.com/forums...t=190</A><br>convertible video: <A HREF="http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=233" TARGET="_blank">http://www.2addicts.com/forums...t=233</A><p>You can tell its not quite the same car

protocatcher
02-04-2007, 10:40 AM
Its def a Coupe , u can also clearly see the B-pillar.

Gromit
02-04-2007, 09:48 PM
Yeah, you're right. And it's got the antenna at the rear of the roofline.

spikes111
02-06-2007, 08:06 AM
Some bigger pics and a good comparison photo of the coupe next to the hatchback<p><A HREF="http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1752#post1752" TARGET="_blank">http://www.2addicts.com/forums...t1752</A>

spikes111
02-06-2007, 10:36 PM
And another set of coupe photos <br>Noticce the two tone interior and shape of the rear side windows showing <p><A HREF="http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=383" TARGET="_blank">http://www.2addicts.com/forums...t=383</A><p>

spikes111
02-26-2007, 01:39 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>spikes111</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And another set of coupe photos <br>Noticce the two tone interior and shape of the rear side windows showing <p><A HREF="http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=383" TARGET="_blank">http://www.2addicts.com/forums...t=383</A><p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Heh quoting myself here, but here's shots of the two-toned interior.. looks sweet<p><A HREF="http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=394" TARGET="_blank">http://www.2addicts.com/forums...t=394</A>

carbon
02-26-2007, 03:15 PM
why everyone think they come out with a coupe?<br>they have a 5 doors,3 doors and this is hardtop convertible.<br>why this need two 1-series coupes?<br>

jeremykupfer
03-18-2007, 01:47 PM
1-Series coupe has been spotted in the US - <A HREF="http://blogs.edmunds.com/Straightline/2496" TARGET="_blank">http://blogs.edmunds.com/Straightline/2496</A>

[AP]adiweb
03-18-2007, 02:44 PM
That car will turn out looking really good. compact, sporty and not exagerated. I'm gonna love it :)

the1
03-18-2007, 04:44 PM
Looks great. It seems to be using the 3 Series Coupe tail lights. I hope they won't use the droopy 1 Series front end, maybe smth closer to the 3 Series.

knihc2008
03-18-2007, 06:06 PM
Hey it actually looks decent in that picture. I guess the car just needs large wheels to look not so tippy, though the greenhouse shape is still very stubby looking.

CosworthKid
03-18-2007, 06:20 PM
Wow, big surprise, that looks awesome. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

hilton
03-18-2007, 11:15 PM
<br>wow its looks really really good how long till oficial pics??

erzhik
03-19-2007, 12:23 AM
maybe i am the only one, but it looks so weird.. <br>like a chopped 3 series. There is just something about that rear.. trunk looks so incredibly small<p>as soon as I saw that last pic, I thought of this <p><A HREF="http://bmw.pro-motors.ru/content/_large/bmw-24-1.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://bmw.pro-motors.ru/conte...1.jpg</A>

CosworthKid
03-19-2007, 05:50 AM
It does look like a shrunken 3-series but that's what makes it so damn appealing to my eyes, i really really love it so far and its soooo much better than the 3er Compact mate (i hated those cars)

the1
03-19-2007, 05:47 PM
I think it looks great, though I hope it won't have the same front end as the 1 Series.<p><A HREF="http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/9584/2spiedbmw1seriescoupegr9.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img181.imageshack.us/im...9.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/8332/1spiedbmw1seriescoupeau7.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img245.imageshack.us/im...7.jpg</A><br>LLN

against the wall
03-19-2007, 06:45 PM
damn. stupid pole got in the way.

xl5
03-19-2007, 07:36 PM
here:<p><A HREF="http://www.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos.cfm/country/gcf/spyphotoID/6070319.001/bmw/spy-photos-bmw-1-series-coupe-best-photos-yet" TARGET="_blank">http://www.worldcarfans.com/sp...s-yet</A>

the1
03-20-2007, 03:09 AM
Nahh... that's a crappy chop. I want to see the final car and the front end. The 1 Series headlights look like **** on the 2.

CosworthKid
03-20-2007, 03:31 AM
Since it got the 3er Coupe tailights im betting for the front ones to take ques from that as well. A truly magnificant car, much closer to the spirit of the original 3er's of the 80's, and the M version should me awesome (or whatever its called)

xl5
03-22-2007, 12:35 PM
I noticed today that the rocker panels on the red car at the gas station and the blue car most recently on worlcarfans.com are the same as those on the 3-door 1 series with the sport package. <p>It will be interesting to see if they are standard on the 1 coupe, or specific to the 135i, or part of a sport package.<p>Whichever, way, I want them!<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/banana.gif" BORDER="0">

BMWFAQClub
03-26-2007, 08:24 AM
Hi everyone. 1-series cabrio (and E92 M3) in Sevilla, Spain:<p><A HREF="http://www.bmwfaq.com/showthread.php?t=208047" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bmwfaq.com/showthread.php?t=208047</A><br>

spikes111
03-30-2007, 08:05 AM
1er coupe in blue!<p><A HREF="http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=418" TARGET="_blank">http://www.2addicts.com/forums...t=418</A><p>I hope that car is still riding on shipping blocks <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0">

mzoltarp
03-30-2007, 01:26 PM
I feel like Randy Jackson on American Idol...it's all right, it's all right, not the best, not the worst, it's all right.

GoLeafsGO
03-30-2007, 03:25 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mzoltarp</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I feel like Randy Jackson on American Idol...it's all right, it's all right, not the best, not the worst, it's all right.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Yeah, I dunno, it's just aight for me, dog, it's just aight for me.

CosworthKid
03-30-2007, 05:28 PM
I dont like it <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsad.gif" BORDER="0"> From the previous pics it looked like a mini 3er but now it just looks ..dunno. BMW please kill those front lights for pits sake. How many ppl must complain about them before u do it? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/angry.gif" BORDER="0"> Also what's with that side crease.. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emdgust.gif" BORDER="0">

ocn75
03-30-2007, 05:45 PM
Yep, looked promising initially, but those crook looking headlights need to go.

Smart22186
03-31-2007, 03:42 AM
are we sure this car isnt testing some underpinnings for a new 4X4 system? its very high! the car will look so much better when its released and it'll be low, think we should wait and see!

CosworthKid
03-31-2007, 04:12 AM
Personally i was commenting on the actual styling of the car and not its road clearance. It looks just like a 1-series with some extra dodgy lines. I sure hope it looks 100 times better when we see showroom ready pics

hilton
03-31-2007, 02:32 PM
this will definatly get a spot inmy sig when oficial pics comes

padam
04-06-2007, 01:30 AM
Coupe testing on Nrburgring<p><A HREF="http://www.carspynews.com/index.php?id=1,15,0,0,1,0 " TARGET="_blank">http://www.carspynews.com/inde...,1,0 </A>

CosworthKid
04-09-2007, 12:13 PM
<A HREF="http://img118.imageshack.us/img118/4448/0b22d1220c64d63ed2a8234rr1.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img118.imageshack.us/im...1.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/9663/bbeeaad2eb94d1f48663f29sd9.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img265.imageshack.us/im...9.jpg</A><p>Source: AutoBild.de<p><br>Some impressions of an M1 from AutoBild. Sorry if they were re-posted

spikes111
04-09-2007, 12:21 PM
Those are at least a year old.<p><A HREF="http://www.2addicts.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.2addicts.com</A> has been using that as their header as long as I can remember.<p><br>Doesn't look that accurate anymore now that we seen what the real car will look like. Thanks for the share tho <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

CosworthKid
04-09-2007, 12:26 PM
Yeah i assumed they were not fresh but AutoBild tends to recycle their old images lately and use them on the front page of their site so its confusing

spikes111
04-19-2007, 07:28 AM
Check out these new images from huckfeldt and some insider info to substantiate (from scott26)<p><A HREF="http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2216#post2216" TARGET="_blank">http://www.2addicts.com/forums...t2216</A><p>Its gonna be a beauty.

CosworthKid
04-19-2007, 12:16 PM
Well i see very little reseblence to the 2002, it looks very much like a smaller 7-series or 3er Coupe there from the rear, really nice though. So the prmotional shoot was done in Sydney??

hks786
04-20-2007, 11:38 AM
The 1 Series Coupe front uncovered ! .....<p><A HREF="http://www.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos.cfm/spyphotoID/6070420.001/pageview/photo/photo/Mini1/page/1/country/gcf/bmw/spy-photos-bmw-1-series-coupe-front-uncovered" TARGET="_blank">http://www.worldcarfans.com/sp...vered</A><p><A HREF="http://www.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos.cfm/spyphotoID/6070420.001/pageview/photo/photo/Mini2/country/gcf/bmw/spy-photos-bmw-1-series-coupe-front-uncovered" TARGET="_blank">http://www.worldcarfans.com/sp...vered</A>

AGNRDARNETW
04-20-2007, 01:20 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>hks786</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The 1 Series Coupe front uncovered ! .....<p><A HREF="http://www.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos.cfm/spyphotoID/6070420.001/pageview/photo/photo/Mini1/page/1/country/gcf/bmw/spy-photos-bmw-1-series-coupe-front-uncovered" TARGET="_blank">http://www.worldcarfans.com/sp...vered</A><p><A HREF="http://www.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos.cfm/spyphotoID/6070420.001/pageview/photo/photo/Mini2/country/gcf/bmw/spy-photos-bmw-1-series-coupe-front-uncovered" TARGET="_blank">http://www.worldcarfans.com/sp...vered</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Looks like a baby M car.

against the wall
04-20-2007, 03:56 PM
thats because its M1. or 135.

xl5
04-20-2007, 06:46 PM
It's virtually the same M sport package as that on the 130 i 3 or 5 door. Either we'll get it standard on the fastest U.S. version or as an option (I'd wager).<br>

xl5
04-20-2007, 06:51 PM
It's virtually the same M sport package as that on the 130i 3 or 5 door. Either we'll get it standard on the fastest U.S. version or as an option (I'd wager).<br>

against the wall
04-20-2007, 07:08 PM
so if its the same as 130 then its most likely the 135i coupe. i figure M would be a bit more aggressive.

spikes111
04-24-2007, 06:43 AM
More shots. <p><A HREF="http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2302#post2302" TARGET="_blank">http://www.2addicts.com/forums...t2302</A><p>I like how it looks from that angle in the first pic.

CosworthKid
04-24-2007, 07:07 AM
I love the angle on the second pic the most, its pure BMW and makes it looks very masculine <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/aliensmiley.gif" BORDER="0"> I love the qurikyness of the hatch, perhaps i will love this coupe 10 times more once i see it in the metal, here's to hoping <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>If only they changed those headlights...

Roadster44
04-24-2007, 11:38 AM
Wow they actually managed to make the coupe look well proportioned! I want to collect all 3 versions...the hatch, the coupe, and the convertible! haha

CosworthKid
04-24-2007, 01:57 PM
Lol, that would have been cool <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/driver.gif" BORDER="0">

hilton
04-24-2007, 04:43 PM
that would be great

RetroJapan
04-29-2007, 05:40 PM
Just saw them filming the new 1-series coupe in the 2nd street tunnel in downtown Los Angeles. It was that orangey/red color, completely uncovered, and had it's HIDs on... Looked really nice! Sadly, by the time I realized what it was, I had already passed by, so no camera phone opportunities...

Smart22186
04-29-2007, 10:58 PM
You never know mate, maybe they caught you on camera! then when the ad comes out you can be like "see told you i saw it"

hilton
04-29-2007, 11:06 PM
so this means its day or weeks untill officail photos??

Uberwagon
04-30-2007, 01:09 AM
Probably a good number of months away if they're shooting now. From my experience, they usually take awhile to produce campaigns so preproduction vehicles for launches have to be ready WAY ahead of time. Anyone know of planned price points yet? That 130 could be a tough prospect at the $35k I've heard rumoured. If they launch with $26k four cylinder, they will sell like absolute crazy here in California. The latent demand for a premium branded, performance oriented, reasonable mileage car is f-ing massive right now. But nobody's there! <p>We're getting close to $4 gas of course so take that with salt and adjust expectations if you live elsewhere. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

hilton
04-30-2007, 02:31 AM
They better release it soon because the 1er hatch has been on sale for a while and has already recived a mild facelift.

against the wall
04-30-2007, 03:23 AM
so what does that have to do with anything?<p>and bmw usually has some months in between photoshoots and release. i remember when the 3er coupe was caught in a photoshoot around this time last year, and wasnt released until like august.

Roadster44
04-30-2007, 12:27 PM
Uberwagon, you're spot on...customers should be presented with as many choices as possible with options, engines, and so forth.<p>This is especially crucial now since $4 for premium will happen no doubt. And certain people want the badge, fun to drive characteristics, but also fuel mileage.

Uberwagon
04-30-2007, 03:37 PM
Unfortunately, the US market is huge so presenting a vast array of engines, options, etc. is very costly. We car enthusiasts all know that they should offer a four cylinder here (given the nature of the times) but their marketing and product planners in this country might err on the side of "premiumness" and stick with a single version of the expensive 3.0 litre inline six (maybe with one variation).<p>Don't get me wrong, I love those BMW sixes (there's nothing smoother and torquier than a BMW inline). But part of the initial success and brand character of BMW in the States stems from the 2002 during the OPEC gas crisis. It was perfect for the times, combining sparkling performance, germanic quality and fuel efficiency in a package that college grads on a career path could afford. If they had that kind of conceptual offering again in the 1-series, it would be nothing less than a phenomenal success today. <p>They have an excellent 2.0 litre 170 bhp motor in the sport offering of the 320i in the UK/EU. Something along those lines might be a perfect solution. We shall soon see.

gawid
05-10-2007, 12:55 PM
<A HREF="http://www.ewanskelly.net/picture.php?cat=24&image_id=593" TARGET="_blank">http://www.ewanskelly.net/pict...d=593</A><p><A HREF="http://www.ewanskelly.net/picture.php?cat=24&image_id=595" TARGET="_blank">http://www.ewanskelly.net/pict...d=595</A><p><A HREF="http://www.ewanskelly.net/picture.php?cat=24&image_id=597" TARGET="_blank">http://www.ewanskelly.net/pict...d=597</A><p><A HREF="http://www.ewanskelly.net/picture.php?cat=24&image_id=596" TARGET="_blank">http://www.ewanskelly.net/pict...d=596</A><p><A HREF="http://www.ewanskelly.net/picture.php?cat=24&image_id=594" TARGET="_blank">http://www.ewanskelly.net/pict...d=594</A><p>

knicks125
05-15-2007, 08:19 AM
<A HREF="http://blogs.edmunds.com/Straightline/2762" TARGET="_blank">http://blogs.edmunds.com/Straightline/2762</A>

gawid
05-22-2007, 10:39 PM
<A HREF="http://www.ewanskelly.net/picture.php?cat=24&image_id=618" TARGET="_blank">http://www.ewanskelly.net/pict...d=618</A><p><A HREF="http://www.ewanskelly.net/picture.php?cat=24&image_id=616" TARGET="_blank">http://www.ewanskelly.net/pict...d=616</A><p>

hilton
05-22-2007, 10:57 PM
the more i see this car the more i like it but werent those pics posted before??

the1
05-23-2007, 02:43 AM
THey should have dumped the 1 Series face.

xl5
05-23-2007, 10:21 AM
<A HREF="http://www.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos.cfm/country/gcf/spyphotoID/6070523.001/bmw/spy-photos-more-revealing-bmw-1-series-coupe" TARGET="_blank">http://www.worldcarfans.com/sp...coupe</A>

spikes111
06-05-2007, 01:29 PM
New pics with front bumper uncovered <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/banana.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/banana.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><A HREF="http://www.2addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=468" TARGET="_blank">http://www.2addicts.com/forums...t=468</A><p>Check out those wheel arches <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/eek2.gif" BORDER="0">

hilton
06-05-2007, 03:46 PM
the more i see this car the more i love it, i just wish BMW would release some oficial pics or somone leak them

boston
06-05-2007, 06:05 PM
Sorry if I've sad it before, but this is the ugliest BMW around...make it one of the ugliest cars around

xl5
06-05-2007, 06:28 PM
thank you...one less person in the (long) line for it.

mzoltarp
06-05-2007, 07:39 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>boston</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sorry if I've sad it before, but this is the ugliest BMW around...make it one of the ugliest cars around</TD></TR></TABLE><br>I wouldn't call it the ugliest as long as the 6 series and the 7 series are being cranked out. LOL<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>xl5</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thank you...one less person in the (long) line for it.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I won't stand in line for it because it will be easily eclipsed by a variety of other cars for the same price point. <p>

AM2
06-06-2007, 01:51 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>xl5</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thank you...one less person in the (long) line for it.</TD></TR></TABLE><br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mzoltarp</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>I won't stand in line for it because it will be easily eclipsed by a variety of other cars for the same price point. <br></TD></TR></TABLE><br>xl5, make that two people less....<p><br>Anyway, about the engine options... will it get the same engines as the 1-series?

ocn75
06-06-2007, 03:13 AM
I wouldn't describe it as stunning and it definitely isn't ugly, but this is heaps better than most recent BMW efforts and pleasant enough. BMW's front end designs seem to be slowly improving.

darkus
06-06-2007, 03:22 AM
M-version photoshop <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><br><A HREF="http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=468&page=3" TARGET="_blank">http://www.1addicts.com/forums...age=3</A>

Ignorance
06-07-2007, 12:11 PM
<IMG SRC="http://static.blogo.it/autoblog/bmw_serie_1_coupe_wcf_01_01.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p>that looks clumsy to me.. just wrong!

zendog
06-07-2007, 01:06 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mzoltarp</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I won't stand in line for it because it will be easily eclipsed by a variety of other cars for the same price point. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>That totally depends on how you define "eclipsed." I don't know of a $26k-28k car that sports front/rear balance, an ultra smooth torquey inline-6 engine and the handling precision that this is rumored to have. BMW is pretty serious about "re-establishing" their sporting character waning after the E30 3-series so this could very well be a coup at this pricepoint. We'll all have to wait and see how it actually drives.<p>But if you buy your cars by the numbers (a zero to 60 time, an artificial skidpad number) or by the amenities that come standard (a la a Honda Accord V6) then yeah, it'll be eclisped. But IMHO, it's not good to define a car by tenths of arbitrary numbers and standard seat warmers. They're more complex machines with more varied reasons for buying and enjoying.<p>Personally, I'd like something like this. But we'll have to see if it delivers. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

darkus
06-13-2007, 04:09 AM
<br>Brand new pix of the car in red color and with M-sport on it!<p><A HREF="http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=480" TARGET="_blank">http://www.1addicts.com/forums...t=480</A>

smartguy
06-13-2007, 05:00 AM
For a long time a BMW which shows the sportiness of the brand - go on like that BMW!

spikes111
06-13-2007, 07:36 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>darkus</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Brand new pix of the car in red color and with M-sport on it!<p><A HREF="http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=480" TARGET="_blank">http://www.1addicts.com/forums...t=480</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bowdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bowdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bowdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bowdown.gif" BORDER="0">

xl5
06-14-2007, 06:31 AM
http://www.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos.cfm/country/gcf/spyphotoID/6070614.001/bmw/bmw's-1-series-coupe-testing-with-hans-joachim-stuck<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by AM2K at 5:28 PM 6/14/2007</i>

Nodnarb
06-14-2007, 04:59 PM
This may have been discussed before (I'm not reading through 11 pages of discussion), but I am curious as to what the big secret there is with the taillights. They seem to have no beef with anyone seeing the rest of the car, but in every single picture the taillights seem to be well covered. Even from the spy shots taken at the photo shoot for the upcoming press material, they were covered. Given the styling trend they've been using with rear of the 3er coupe and sedan rear, as well as the 7er facelift, it doesn't seem like they are doing something that drastic here from what we can see, so why the big secret?

spikes111
06-19-2007, 04:13 PM
Check out the interior pic!! I-drive!!<p><A HREF="http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=483" TARGET="_blank">http://www.1addicts.com/forums...t=483</A><p>

against the wall
06-19-2007, 07:37 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>spikes111</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I-drive!!<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>yay?

Ashkgerd
06-20-2007, 12:43 AM
yeah i don't find it amusing either. <br>f*****' I-drive again.<br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by AM2K at 8:01 PM 6/20/2007</i>

milu
06-20-2007, 01:10 AM
You get I-drive on all 1-series when you order the navigation.<p>Does anyone of you who complains about I-drive own a BMW with it? We have it in one of ours and it does not take long to learn it.<p>Saying it's complicated, is saying you're stupid and a slow learner.

Roadster44
06-20-2007, 01:46 AM
haha check it out...the coupe is way better looking than the hatch.

hilton
06-20-2007, 01:48 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Roadster44</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">haha check it out...the coupe is way better looking than the hatch. </TD></TR></TABLE><br>state the obvious

AM2K
06-20-2007, 12:00 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Ashkgerd</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah i don't find it amusing either. <br>f*****' I-drive again.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>No unfiltered swearing on the forum please

MBsam
06-21-2007, 02:06 PM
I saw a silver 5-door 1-series in Santa Barbara yesterday being trailed by a new MINI. BMW is always running their new cars around this town, I saw the new M3 convert the other day as well. I will say that the 1-series doesn't look as small as I though it would in person, and looked to be about the same size as an A3. I wonder why they are driving that one around though...

Ashkgerd
06-21-2007, 03:08 PM
you are right AM2K. I apologize.

the1
06-21-2007, 03:27 PM
It is the same size as an Audi A3. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

MBsam
06-21-2007, 03:30 PM
OH! Well that explains it lol. I was too lazy to check.

spikes111
06-26-2007, 12:14 PM
Looks like someone was able to sneek a pic of the entire uncovered trunk area!!<p><A HREF="http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=499" TARGET="_blank">http://www.1addicts.com/forums...t=499</A><p>"135i" is confirmed!<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by spikes111 at 12:39 PM 6/26/2007</i>

against the wall
06-26-2007, 01:03 PM
cant really say much on the crappy pic quality. but if i was to say something, i would say put the camo back on the rear <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/pukeface.gif" BORDER="0">

TitanSteel
06-26-2007, 02:37 PM
135i = 300 hp <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0"> - thats all I have to say.

Smart22186
06-26-2007, 04:11 PM
It says on number plate 135i, but as its a display car/plate, should it not be 135 Ci?

against the wall
06-26-2007, 04:26 PM
bmw dropped the C from coupe names like last year i think...

StuckInNYForever
06-26-2007, 05:08 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>TitanSteel</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">135i = 300 hp <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0"> - thats all I have to say. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>And Vishnu Tuning will add 60 HP to that figure for very cheap with an ECU reflash. This will be a real rocket!

spikes111
06-26-2007, 05:19 PM
<b>Here it is, fully uncovered 1-series 135i coupe!</b><p><A HREF="http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=499" TARGET="_blank">http://www.1addicts.com/forums...t=499</A><br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/banana.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/banana.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/banana.gif" BORDER="0">

piokor
06-26-2007, 06:52 PM
Hmm...I think these are the first pics where the actual shape of the tail lights is evident. They seem to be upside 3-series coupe lights, I don't know if I like them yet. They may take some getting used to...

Tidal
06-26-2007, 09:14 PM
There still seems to be something wrong with the overall proportion of the car, but it is the better looking of the 1er family. And it should be a riot to drive. <p>Will those bumpers be standard or are they a part of an M package?

Vltava
06-26-2007, 09:35 PM
Nothing at all has discouraged me from wanting one of these. I think it's kind of shocking how something that looks completely wrong as a hatch looks so right as a coupe. I wish they could get that turbo four up to about 200bhp.

Reppu
06-26-2007, 10:49 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>piokor06</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">....I don't know if I like them yet. They may take some getting used to...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well, i DO know i DO NOT like them. First thing that came to my mind was Hyundai, or better say, mid 90s Hyundai. I don't like those lights just like i don't like the overall proportions. I would have searched a sleeker profile, with a more sloped rear glass.

JB
06-26-2007, 10:59 PM
If it had had lights that looked like the 3er coupe's, it would have been perfect. The actual lights, though, look pretty awful. I can see what they were going for, but the design just doesn't work. The rest of the car, though, is spot on.

AM2
06-27-2007, 01:19 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Tidal</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Will those bumpers be standard or are they a part of an M package?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>I think those are M-sport bumpers...<br>These are the regular bumpers.<br><A HREF="http://img293.imageshack.us/my.php?image=6070605001mini2lwf5.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/6247/6070605001mini2lwf5.th.jpg" BORDER="0"></A><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>piokor06</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hmm...I think these are the first pics where the actual shape of the tail lights is evident. They seem to be upside 3-series coupe lights, I don't know if I like them yet. They may take some getting used to...</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Modernized version of the BMW L-shaped lights? <br><IMG SRC="http://www.koperformance.com/BMW/products/oe_maintenance_misc/oem_bmw_parts/bmw_lighting/e46ledtaillamps/04_e46_325ci_led_lamps1_240x180.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Vltava</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think it's kind of shocking how something that looks completely wrong as a hatch looks so right as a coupe.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>I guess it was really intended to be a coupe or convertible with a boot/trunk.<br>2002 BMW CS1 Concept<br><IMG SRC="http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/7106/bmwcs1concept2002800x60qk6.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>

Papa_Joe
06-27-2007, 04:43 AM
Here are some Schulte CGIs from the NMW 1-Series Coup and the Mercedes Sportcoup, including a video from the Nrburgring<br><A HREF="http://www.autostrassenverkehr.de/aktuell/zukunft/hxcms_article_502024_15167.hbs" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autostrassenverkehr...7.hbs</A><br>

the1
06-27-2007, 11:03 AM
<A HREF="http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/1172/1back1gd5.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img140.imageshack.us/im...5.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/8948/1back2md7.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img157.imageshack.us/im...7.jpg</A><p>This is it. Not very handsome... but it's ok. I hope it won't cost almost as much as a 3 Series Coupe, as it wouldn't have a chance.

spwolf
06-27-2007, 02:14 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>the1</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><A HREF="http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/1172/1back1gd5.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img140.imageshack.us/im...5.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/8948/1back2md7.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img157.imageshack.us/im...7.jpg</A><p>This is it. Not very handsome... but it's ok. I hope it won't cost almost as much as a 3 Series Coupe, as it wouldn't have a chance.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>it looks like Renault Thalia... apsolutly horrible. If this is how back will look, BMW board just needs to quit right now.<p>wtf were they thinking? I am still pinching myself thinking I am not seeing that back properly!

Naga Royal Guard
06-27-2007, 05:08 PM
cant wait to see what sniffpetrol says about this

against the wall
06-27-2007, 05:37 PM
who?

xl5
06-27-2007, 05:38 PM
<A HREF="http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/about/news/0,,1156___,00.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bmw.co.uk/bmwuk/abo....html</A>

Reppu
06-27-2007, 11:22 PM
Hope isn't lost yet, let's wait for proper studio pics. Besides, we know that most BMWs look better on the flesh.

safari
06-28-2007, 02:30 AM
Wow it's very difficult to decide whether it's as ugly as the Ssangyong Rodius. At least you couldn't accuse the rest of the one series range of being quite that ugly (well actually you probably could). <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0">

knicks125
07-06-2007, 02:48 PM
cabrio:<p><A HREF="http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2007/07/insider-bmw-1-series-cabrio-to-debut-at.html" TARGET="_blank">http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2....html</A>

CosworthKid
07-06-2007, 04:01 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>safari</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow it's very difficult to decide whether it's as ugly as the Ssangyong Rodius. At least you couldn't accuse the rest of the one series range of being quite that ugly (well actually you probably could). <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Not difficult at all for me: i hate the Rodius, i like the 1 Coupe very much. See? Easy. It might not be a beauty queen but it has all of the BMW qualities that just make me want to buy this. In its segment it truly is the only 1. As for the hatchback 1 series i consider it to be a breath of fresh air, it looks strikingly different from the competition and i absolutely love it.

The Spy
07-24-2007, 01:25 PM
Convertible with open roof:<p> <A HREF="http://www.autovandaag.nl/index.php?nieuwsitem=695" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autovandaag.nl/index.php?nieuwsitem=695</A>

CosworthKid
07-24-2007, 01:36 PM
Great find! I like the convertible a lot, probably the sharpest 1-series variant so far i reckon. Sales should be excellent for this

spikes111
07-26-2007, 08:22 AM
BMW Internal Product Bulletin for the 135i coupe!<p><A HREF="http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=831" TARGET="_blank">http://www.1addicts.com/forums...t=831</A><p>Great info!

Ascariss
07-26-2007, 08:59 AM
wierd no mention of price :P<p>still long ways off, spring 2008 prob is when it will go on sale.

spikes111
07-26-2007, 10:38 AM
Montego blue 135i M-tech/sport @ the Ring!!<br><A HREF="http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=836" TARGET="_blank">http://www.1addicts.com/forums...t=836</A>

Tankster
08-14-2007, 10:43 PM
The convertible almost uncovered:<p><A HREF="http://www.motorauthority.com/news/convertibles/spy-shots-bmw-1-series-cabrio" TARGET="_blank">http://www.motorauthority.com/...abrio</A>/

the1
08-15-2007, 02:04 AM
The major design flaw is using the same front end as on the 1Series hatch.

spikes111
08-20-2007, 03:33 PM
first convertible in red!!<p><A HREF="http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1079" TARGET="_blank">http://www.1addicts.com/forums...=1079</A>

Rune2ksix
08-23-2007, 01:19 PM
new pic of the 1 series Convertible:<p><IMG SRC="http://img122.imageshack.us/img122/5620/1ercabzk4.jpg" BORDER="0">

spikes111
08-30-2007, 11:52 AM
"Up Close And Personal with 135i (at BMW Experience Event)" <p><A HREF="http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1186" TARGET="_blank">http://www.1addicts.com/forums...=1186</A><p>Nice read!

spikes111
09-01-2007, 05:44 PM
Red coupe!<p><A HREF="http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1201" TARGET="_blank">http://www.1addicts.com/forums...=1201</A>