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Silver spirit
02-18-2005, 10:36 AM
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<i>Modified by Silver spirit at 9:42 AM 2/18/2005</i>

Ascariss
02-18-2005, 01:16 PM
Huh, anyone have anymore info?

bolita
02-18-2005, 01:39 PM
Is an ASEAN only product??

Ascariss
02-18-2005, 01:49 PM
Well it is right hand drive, so it's possible.

jro4566
02-18-2005, 02:28 PM
Due to the fact that the MAZDA5 is confirmed U.S.-bound and the fact that GM is considering bringing over the new Zafira as a Saturn, could this be Honda's competition for it? The grill does look a lot like the U.S. version Accord's (which is far different from the Japanese Inspire) and the new "inspired by America" Civic's grill.

Uberwagon
02-18-2005, 05:04 PM
Oops this was not supposed to make it out! Sadly, this most-likely won't be making it to the States. While sport wagons are a growing market, they still sell very poorly in the US. Honda (and less SUV-minded drivers) could use a Civic-based five door sportwagon to cover the growth niches though.

SV
02-18-2005, 05:38 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jro4566</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the fact that GM is considering bringing over the new Zafira as a Saturn</TD></TR></TABLE><p>since when was GM considering bringing the zafira over here? i hope they are, because i've always wanted the zafira to be sold here.

carlisimo
02-18-2005, 11:35 PM
Is that the Civic wagon? The front shares features with the Civic Si concept...<p>Or maybe I should just take this as confirmation that the Civic Si's face will be Honda's new look.

PlatForm
02-19-2005, 12:19 AM
i guess its a stationwagon..probably for the new Civic i assume.

Top Secret
02-19-2005, 02:20 AM
Yes, it does look like the Civic wagon - but this does look mighty similar to the JDM/Pacific Odyssey.

HOMY_DEMIO
02-19-2005, 03:07 AM
Hello every body<p>i found this pic and post it on webboard <p>i know about this car. i want to talk to you that it's wagon of jazz/fit based<br>not civic based OK?.it's domestic car not export to other region.<p>maybe called "air ___ __"<p>because Honda jp need to build a compact wagon instead of honda orthia(economy version = partner)<p>maybe it have three row seats for hit direct to toyota sienta<p>see ya again when i find new data.<br>

HOMY_DEMIO
02-19-2005, 03:11 AM
oh <p>it's have position below stream/odyssey.<p>maybe front panel it's honda city looks.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by HOMY_DEMIO at 2:17 AM 2/19/2005</i>

mzoltarp
02-19-2005, 05:53 AM
Not bad looking except for the wonky looking C pillar. It's too bad the Odyssey doesn't have this level of style.

Fairsky
02-19-2005, 08:24 AM
With the rising popularity of wagons in the US market again, along with AWD, Honda really needs to get into this market. <p>I wonder how Mazda has done with their 6 wagon?<p>This Honda wagon looks pretty nice. The headlights do remind me of the concept Civic Si with the kink inward at the grill. It may be a nice look for new models.

Dan J.
02-19-2005, 10:10 AM
This caris smaller than the Stream? It apprears larger. It also kinda reminds me of the first generation Honday Odyssey that was sold in the U.S. in the mid 90's. The C pillar looks a little odd and I'm not really a fan of that large chrome strip accross the front maybe it is the camera angle.

HOMY_DEMIO
02-19-2005, 01:25 PM
it's compact wagon <p>base on fit/jazz.<p>it's sale on japan only..!!

Uberwagon
02-19-2005, 01:51 PM
This will be the new face of Honda passenger cars. You will see it on the new Civic and the MMC of the Accord and variants. Similarities with the Si Concept are strictly intentional.

ToyotaFreak
02-19-2005, 07:00 PM
Is this pic leaked from a brochure or is this a CGI? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

anonms
02-19-2005, 09:41 PM
Looks more like a Mazda5 competitor that could be based off<br> the next Civic.

Blackraven
02-20-2005, 01:22 AM
This could either be the new Honda Stream or a new model.<p>That, I'm not completely sure because the Stream that is being sold is a a 2003 model (the current one).<p>I just don't know how long Honda replaces its vehicles (4/5 year cycle?).

HOMY_DEMIO
02-20-2005, 02:21 AM
the redesign STREAM must annouce after new CIVIC 2006 shows<p>this's not redesign STREAM..

PBH
02-20-2005, 08:09 AM
apparently stream has been replaced by the FR-V in the Honda lineup from now on

Lunafairymiena
02-20-2005, 09:34 AM
The name is "Airwave". The car is based on the FIT(Jazz). <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0">

Tidal
02-20-2005, 09:54 AM
Can you give us more details? Engine choices, size, more pics, maybe the interior...

Lunafairymiena
02-23-2005, 09:13 AM
Hi, the engine is same as the Fit(Jazz)'s sportier type engine 1.5 SOHC V-TEC. I've checked some magazines and their it was. The transmission for the Airwave, Fit's CVT(with 7-Speed Paddle shifts).<br>Unfortunately, I don't have the pic. But, some online sites has. Japan's major auto news site, Auto Gallery Net has the interior and exterior photos. Check it out.<p>---Auto Gallery Net(Japan)---<br><A HREF="http://www.auto-g.jp/image.html?f=news/200502/18/topics08/02_b.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.auto-g.jp/image.htm...b.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.auto-g.jp/news/200502/22/topics01/index.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.auto-g.jp/news/2005....html</A><br>(Click the photo to enlarge it.) <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/2cool.gif" BORDER="0">

PlatForm
02-23-2005, 09:37 AM
i guess this model to big to be based on Honda Jazz cause the size between both cars are totally different..<p>btw,if this model will be the next Honda Stream..i would prefered the current version..

Tidal
02-23-2005, 11:46 AM
Thanks. I wonder if their planning to bring it over to europe? It would fit nicely below the FRV, and compete with things like the Modus and Meriva ( i guess, don't really know it's size, my japanese isn't that good <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> ), although not having a diesel option would make it a hard sell over here. <br>But it looks pretty good. Honda really seems to be a bit more focused on design, and giving their range a coherent look.

Laguna
02-23-2005, 11:48 AM
Reminds me of the Oddessye but only smaller. So what will the rivals be???? I have no idea. No idea of the price either. But i will try to find out.

spwolf
02-23-2005, 09:56 PM
lol, how can it be based on fit? You can probably fit FIT in the back of that van... It looks like proper 7 seat van

Lunafairymiena
02-23-2005, 10:22 PM
Yeah, the Edix(What we call the FR-V in Japan;A bit strange name to introduce.la) is in that position. Well, the size are almost same as the FR-V but, width is thinner than FR-V. We call the size "5 number size"(Under 1700mm width or under 2,000cc displacement car.) and the Airwave is that size.<br> Honda used the Fit(Jazz)'s platform and it looks different from the Fit(Jazz)'s original design but, they still have some similarity.(Doors, Front Pillers and more.)<p> By the way...Original "Honda Stream" is now good lookin'.<br><A HREF="http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/stream/photo-lib/index.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-li....html</A><br>(To enlarge, click the photo.)<p>*Honda Fit(Jazz)<br><A HREF="http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/fit/photo-lib/index.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-li....html</A><br>(To enlarge, click the photo.)<br>

Blackraven
02-24-2005, 05:34 AM
The steering wheel looks excatly like the one in the Honda Fit/Jazz MMC Facelift (applies to models built in Japan). Also, those climate/AC controls look like they come from the Honda City/Fit Aria.<p><br>I agree that many components come from the Fit/Jazz platform.<p><br>Another thing is that they need a DIESEL option if they will sell this in Europe. Remember the Honda Stream being sold in Europe, you get either 1.7 VTEC or 2.0 i-VTEC that comes with an auto tranny with tiptronic or a 5-speed Manual.<p><br>Problem is, NO DIESEL for the Stream. <p>Result = The Fiat MPV (don't know the exact model name) SOLD 10 TIMES MORE than the Honda Stream for it has a Diesel variant.<p><br>So, Diesel is definitely a big factor in Europe.

Tidal
02-24-2005, 06:15 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Blackraven</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Remember the Honda Stream being sold in Europe, you get either 1.7 VTEC or 2.0 i-VTEC that comes with an auto tranny with tiptronic or a 5-speed Manual.<p>Problem is, NO DIESEL for the Stream. <p>Result = The Fiat MPV (don't know the exact model name) SOLD 10 TIMES MORE than the Honda Stream for it has a Diesel variant.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>It's the Fiat Multipla, not a big seller either, btw <p><A HREF="http://www.fiat.com/cgi-bin/pbrand.dll/FIAT_COM/showroom/showroom.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@0637305234.110925021 8@@@@&BV_EngineID=ccceadddmejlmimcefecejgdfiidfhn.0&modelKey=0060" TARGET="_blank">http://www.fiat.com/cgi-bin/pb...=0060</A><p>Also, i do agree that the lack of a diesel engine was a major fault on the Stream, but not the only one. When it came out, it was huge compared with the competition ( 15cm longer than the Zafira, 40cm longer than a Scenic and 58cm longer than a Multipla ), and was lacking seriously when it came to versatility. Most magazines compared it more to a big station wagon than an actual MPV.<p>

Lunafairymiena
02-26-2005, 11:26 PM
Well the diesel, I'm not sure about it. I've checked some articles that are related to the Airwave and Edix but, Honda is not planning to put on the diesel engine to those two compact cars and the stream you've told.<br> Unfortunately, here in Japan the diesel engines are not so popular and also, it does not match with the traffic. So, there were no diesel info. related to the Airwave. If they are planning to send or manufucture those cars in the Europe, the auto magazines will write about it. <p> Maybe the next Stream(I guess for the Europe) will get the diesel as the Europe's Accord has.<br>

boston
02-27-2005, 05:49 AM
This looks alot like the mystery Honda Type r wagon Acariss put on the what is this spy car.<br><A HREF="http://premium1.uploadit.org/ascariss//hondasw.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://premium1.uploadit.org/ascariss//hondasw.jpg</A>

Tidal
02-27-2005, 06:23 AM
Nope, that's a European Honda Accord tourer type-S<p><A HREF="http://www.honda.co.uk/cars/newcars/modelHome.jsp?yearId=2005&modelId=10410&bodyId=10734&bodyDescription=Tourer&engineId=&badgeId=&transmissionId=&colourId=&colourAllocationId=&wheelPartNo=&source=modelHome" TARGET="_blank">http://www.honda.co.uk/cars/ne...lHome</A>

Lunafairymiena
02-27-2005, 09:12 PM
Tourer type.S. Accord???????????????????? Never heard that before!!! We have the model<br>like DVieira said. The car(Accord Wagon's typ.R HOTTEST!? model) is not introduced in Japanese<br>Market. We have the Sports Package instead of the type.S models now. It is like the US market's<br>"Factory Performance Package". <p><A HREF="http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-lineup/accord-wagon/photo-lib/photo02.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.honda.co.jp/auto-li....html</A><p> By the way my old friend has the same model. He bought the Accord Wagon...Thought it was last<br>year...He said its "Too fast car" for him to drive...