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carrera4
02-17-2005, 11:10 AM
source 4 Car<br><I>Ford calls its compact Focus-based MPV C-MAX, so the larger Mondeo-based MPV is to be, logically enough, D-MAX (though the name E-MAX has also been suggested, to stress its size and position in the Ford range). This will replace the ageing Galaxy next year, and will be built on the next-generation Mazda6/Mondeo platform, also shared with the US-market Mercury Milan, Ford Fusion and Lincoln Zephyr. Expect far more car-like driving characteristics than the current Galaxy, and full seven-seat interior functionality; styling-wise, it will be more of a high-riding station wagon than a van-like MPV. To go with its crossover-style looks, four-wheel drive versions would be feasible, though these may not make it to the UK. </I> <p><br><A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/F/ford/d-max/03-large/Ford-D-Max-001.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/m...1.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/F/ford/d-max/03-large/Ford-D-Max-002.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/m...2.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/F/ford/d-max/03-large/Ford-D-Max-003.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/m...3.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/F/ford/d-max/03-large/Ford-D-Max-004.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/m...4.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/F/ford/d-max/03-large/Ford-D-Max-005.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/m...5.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/F/ford/d-max/03-large/Ford-D-Max-006.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/m...6.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/F/ford/d-max/03-large/Ford-D-Max-007.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/m...7.jpg</A>

bolita
02-17-2005, 11:21 AM
Looks promising.<p>I guess ford can build on the success of the C-Max in Europe but this MPV story in the US is <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0"> !!

SV
02-17-2005, 03:35 PM
it looks like the front may look very similar to the original focus <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/banana.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>it would seem like they were going to give it the new styling theme they've been talking about (it's supposed to be derived from the new 3-bar grille look on the US ford fusion i think, and this prototype clearly doesn't have a 3-bar grille)

Naga Royal Guard
02-17-2005, 04:24 PM
STOP COPYING IXUZU! <p>OMG IM GOING TO WRITE A LETTER TO MY CONGRESSMAN ABOUT THIS <p><IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

CarMattZu777
02-17-2005, 10:02 PM
I KNOW ME TOO GOSH! FLIPPING IDIOTS AT FORD!<p>lol, It would be copyright infringement though, wouldn't it? I mean Isuzu D-MAX pickup and D-MAX diesels, "GM" D-Max engines? And then Ford? lol.

Hornbag
02-18-2005, 12:02 AM
I'd much prefer this 'modified' Ford US grille. The new edge theme is dead...

Laguna
02-18-2005, 02:32 AM
They revealed this in Autoexpress. It looked like the Ford Ka estate. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0">

pmani
02-20-2005, 10:11 PM
The next Galaxy will have two versions...5 seater and a 7 seater...

Santeno
04-07-2005, 03:12 PM
Spypics and a rendering from 4Car:<p><A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/F/ford/dmax2/03-large/Ford-D-Max-001.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/m...1.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/F/ford/dmax2/03-large/Ford-D-Max-002.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/m...2.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/F/ford/dmax2/03-large/Ford-D-Max-003.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/m...3.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/F/ford/dmax2/03-large/Ford-D-Max-004.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/m...4.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/F/ford/dmax2/03-large/Ford-D-Max-005.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/m...5.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/F/ford/dmax2/03-large/Ford-D-Max-006.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/m...6.jpg</A><p><IMG SRC="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/F/ford/dmax2/03-large/Ford-D-Max-illustration.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Spy Shot: Ford D-MAX <br>We saw the SAV concept car at the Geneva Motor Show in March, and under all that disguising is the real thing: the Mondeo D-MAX, undergoing high-speed testing at Germany's Nurburgring race circuit. It's based on the next-generation Mondeo/Mazda6 platform, which is also shared with the US-market Mercury Milan, Ford Fusion (no relation to ours) and Lincoln Zephyr, and it is going to have much more car-like driving dynamics than the Galaxy. A flexible, versatile platform, it could also form the basis of new Volvo (S60, V70, S80), Land Rover (Freelander) and even Jaguar models (S- and X-Types). Engines expected in the D-MAX include the Volvo 2.3 and 2.4s, some turbocharged, versions of the 2.0 petrol and TDCi diesel as in the latest Focus, and the 2.7 V6 diesel as in the Jaguar S-Type. <p>The D-MAX (the use of the Mondeo name is still under debate) is expected to come with a choice of five- and seven-seat layouts, and all the usual MPV-style versatility; the SAV previewed neat touches such as remote-controlled, motorised sliding seats, integrated luggage trolleys with built-in armrests and outer seats in the middle row which can slide inwards to give more elbow room, though some of these features may not appear in entry-level versions. The optional sixth and seventh seats are likely to be stowaway items which can fold down flat into the boot floor. <p>The D-MAX may not completely supersede the Galaxy; Ford described the SAV as a proposal for a car to fit in between the Mondeo and Galaxy in its ranges, and the Galaxy is likely to continue on sale for a while after the D-MAX is launched (early 2006). We reckon the production version will be unveiled at the Frankfurt Motor Show in September 2005.<p>Source:4car<p><A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/gallery/spyshots-2005/F/ford/dmax2.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/g....html</A></TD></TR></TABLE><br>

Uberwagon
04-07-2005, 05:41 PM
Sometimes I wonder if concepts like this just set the market up for disappointment. The D-max concept looked like something with an edge, wearing the wheels of a real car. Then, naturally, we see spyshots of the actual vehicle with all season tires on dinky wheels. I know first-hand how expensive large, performance wheels and tires can be on an OEM car (financially and in engineering) but, I suspect dashed expectations and lack of sex appeal are plenty more expensive.

LEXUS FAN!
04-07-2005, 06:38 PM
Ford for once did a good job at covering their car

bolita
04-08-2005, 08:11 AM
I think it will be a hit if it looks like that rendering <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0">

davidChief
04-08-2005, 11:02 AM
I'm liking these spy pics. But this thing is HUGE!

Hornbag
04-09-2005, 04:25 AM
BLODDY HELL! This thing is massive! I dont think it will fit in the UK! LOL<p>But those renderings do look very nice, but can someone tell me how this is a copy of an isuzu? sorry, i dont pay much attention to isuzus!

Blackraven
04-10-2005, 03:39 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hornbag</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>But those renderings do look very nice, but can someone tell me how this is a copy of an isuzu? sorry, i dont pay much attention to isuzus!</TD></TR></TABLE><p><IMG SRC="http://www.pickuptruck.com/IMAGES/2004/isuzu/I190/guide/03d-max.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>

Hornbag
04-10-2005, 06:00 AM
Oh, i get it its the name they are copying, my bad, soz!

Kam
05-30-2005, 08:45 AM
Heres an article from Autocar:<p>As well as the Focus cabrio and the Focus ST, Fords been busy working on the SAV, first seen as a concept at last months Geneva Motor Show and pictured here hidden under a heavy disguise. Although the concept had five seats, the production car will be described as a  five plus two seater.<p>It arrives in the UK next summer with an all-new and rather bigger Galaxy.<p>Pics:<p><A HREF="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y27/u****ingwankers/23551153501.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i2.photobucket.com/albu...1.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y27/u****ingwankers/14455105331.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i2.photobucket.com/albu...1.jpg</A><p>Enjoy<p>Source: Autocar

JOKEJOE
06-12-2005, 02:12 AM
<IMG SRC="http://ring.wegen.de/fotos/touri_20050531/121.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://ring.wegen.de/fotos/touri_20050531/122.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><br>JOKEJOE

Hornbag
06-12-2005, 03:47 AM
WOW!!! Just look at the front!!! Looks just like the concept!!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>JokeJoe do you have any side on views of the D-Max?

Santeno
06-14-2005, 08:28 AM
New pics from DiCampo & autoscoops, including interior shots:<p><A HREF="http://users.telenet.be/dicampo/afbeeldingen/naamloos2%20copy.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://users.telenet.be/dicamp...y.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://users.telenet.be/dicampo/afbeeldingen/naamloos3%20copy.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://users.telenet.be/dicamp...y.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://users.telenet.be/dicampo/afbeeldingen/naamloos4%20copy.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://users.telenet.be/dicamp...y.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://users.telenet.be/dicampo/afbeeldingen/naamloos5%20copy.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://users.telenet.be/dicamp...y.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://users.telenet.be/dicampo/afbeeldingen/SAV.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://users.telenet.be/dicamp...V.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://users.telenet.be/dicampo/afbeeldingen/sav13pb.jpeg%20copy.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://users.telenet.be/dicamp...y.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://users.telenet.be/dicampo/afbeeldingen/sav48qk%20copy.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://users.telenet.be/dicamp...y.jpg</A>

Charger
07-08-2005, 07:21 AM
<A HREF="http://www.autorevue.cz/Images/4925/22.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autorevue.cz/Images/4925/22.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.autorevue.cz/Automobilka/AR.asp?ARI=5091" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autorevue.cz/Automo...=5091</A>

DSC-OFF
08-24-2005, 01:14 PM
<A HREF="http://media.autobild.de/bild/C/f3d14f6f787d8fd24466b127bc5ad3ec_1.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://media.autobild.de/bild/...1.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://media.autobild.de/bild/A/2f074a730f908a82b9e09bd40e8398ca_1.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://media.autobild.de/bild/...1.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://media.autobild.de/bild/2/821d8f485d1656816f3ebfcf0a2a74a2_1.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://media.autobild.de/bild/...1.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://media.autobild.de/bild/3/b1dab284d561b8056c0a64df0d1f85a3_1.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://media.autobild.de/bild/...1.jpg</A><p>Source: Autobild

CosworthKid
08-24-2005, 01:28 PM
According to FordEurope.net this wont be named the D-Max,but instead will carry over the Galaxy name. The car thought to be the D-Max will actually be called the S-Max and will be the production version of the SAV concept. AutoBild posted new renders of the S-Max and it looks very close to the SAV concept,even though the production car looks to have a more "classy" look rather than the full-on sporty looks of the concept. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/images/smilies/sponge.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>ps:this AutoBild computer image of the Galaxy looks kinda dodgy,not one of their best c.g. work if you ask me

bolita
08-24-2005, 01:37 PM
So Europe will not follow the name F, E, etc game as the US&gt;??

DSC-OFF
08-24-2005, 01:41 PM
Its a different market..i dont think theyve ever or will ever play that game

CosworthKid
08-24-2005, 01:44 PM
FordEurope naming policy is very different from Ford of US bolita.Probably the "S" in S-Max stands for three different words,on of it being "Sporty".Hence the S-Max name.The Focus C-MAX also used the same trend.Regardless of this minor(and kinda pointless) explanation of these names,as i said, Ford of Europe works in an entirely different way from Ford US or Ford Australia e.t.c. It makes sense if you consider how different these markets are from each other.

Hornbag
08-25-2005, 04:47 AM
I have to say, they have finally got rid of those un-ergonomic air con controls!!! YAH. Looks good inside, like the concept! The steering wheel looks sweet<p>Im still not a huge fan of those headlights...could it be Ford is trying to hard to ditch its bland styling that they will end up dead ugly? Its a little too early yet, but i think so...

soarer
09-10-2005, 04:47 AM
<A HREF="http://pascalpierart.free.fr/photos/script/albums/userpics/10001/Prototype%20FORD%20D%20Max%20photo%2001.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://pascalpierart.free.fr/p...1.jpg</A> <p> <A HREF="http://pascalpierart.free.fr/photos/script/albums/userpics/10001/Prototype%20FORD%20D%20Max%20photo%2002.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://pascalpierart.free.fr/p...2.jpg</A>

CosworthKid
09-10-2005, 06:21 AM
Wow!Fantastic find mate, great job!So is this going to be the Galaxy or the new SAV inspired MPV?? Front looks great but the sides and rear end look too van-like to have any relation to the SAV( Ford S-MAX?)

CosworthKid
09-10-2005, 06:29 AM
Now i am sure, this is the Galaxy..so i think someone has to change the name of the topic to 2006/2007 Ford Galaxy as Ford has confirmed it will be called like that for weeks now <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/images/smilies/sponge.gif" BORDER="0">

JBlair
09-10-2005, 08:32 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CosworthKid</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Now i am sure, this is the Galaxy..so i think someone has to change the name of the topic to 2006/2007 Ford Galaxy as Ford has confirmed it will be called like that for weeks now <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/images/smilies/sponge.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><br>Says who? As far as I've heard the Galaxy name is dead, and it will be replaced my the D-max (hence the name of this thread).

CosworthKid
09-10-2005, 10:42 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Says who? As far as I've heard the Galaxy name is dead, and it will be replaced my the D-max (hence the name of this thread).</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Says most British magazines and Ford insiders plus info collected by FordEurope.net forums...these guys know what they are talking about. If you check their site, the thread has been changed to Ford Galaxy ages ago. Are your sources from within Ford? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

Rossell
09-10-2005, 10:50 AM
Well, if an auto cover screams "FORD D-MAX!" will people know what their on about? No.<p><br>If they scream "NEW FORD GALAXY" - people will know.<p><br>The name is still subject to change.

CosworthKid
09-10-2005, 11:04 AM
Being a Ford person for years now man, i dont fall for those cover titles..i search about it more deep than that...if you check my comments about the so-called Fiesta XR2 you will see that. Anyway, i was just making a comment out of good will, didnt mean to "offend" anyone <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsad.gif" BORDER="0">

Hornbag
09-11-2005, 01:55 AM
WOW!!! Still has a way too low window line along the side, its massive, but the front looks very nice! Im glad they tonned it down a bit, those round foglights were just fawl...<p>Side looks ala C-Max to me, so mabey the 'new' look only extends to the front and rear of the car?

CosworthKid
09-11-2005, 06:33 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hornbag</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">WOW!!! Still has a way too low window line along the side, its massive, but the front looks very nice! Im glad they tonned it down a bit, those round foglights were just fawl...<p>Side looks ala C-Max to me, so mabey the 'new' look only extends to the front and rear of the car?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yeah, i love the front bit too and i hope it somehow makes it into a facelifted MK2 Focus in a couple of years, looks brutal!I still hope that the production version of the SAV(S-Max) looks like the concept though..this looks very ordinary from the sides and back

Dodger
09-11-2005, 07:15 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hornbag</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">WOW!!! Still has a way too low window line along the side, its massive</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I didn't notice that until you said it but yeah, it's pretty low. Maybe they do that to give the illusion of a more open, airy vehicle. It should improve visibility though.

ricerammer
09-11-2005, 08:37 AM
don't look too bad. Maybe Ford could style the Freestar like this in hopes of more sales.

CosworthKid
09-13-2005, 06:02 AM
Check ou the Concepts sections, they have the same pics posted but much bigger plus 1 extra pic <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by CosworthKid at 6:14 AM 9/13/2005</i>

mc_blue
11-05-2005, 01:32 PM
This is so exciting - I've got a complete rush sitting here. I've just got home from Birmingham and at 20:11 I saw an usual car on the road. At first from the rear I thought that it was an Audi Q7 but as we pulled up for the red lights I saw the front was lightly taped and realised I'd just seen the freaking new Galaxy - I was rushing around for my camera but didn't get it in time. I'm kicking myself - I would've loved to have shared my experience with my friends here at CSS.<p>If anyone wants a location it was taking a left-hand turn for Tesco Gallows Corner om the A12 t/wds Romford. It was black in colour with minimal disguise and was on what looked like German plates. Two occupants, both in the front it was LHD and had an additional numberplate on the rear windshield, which was narrower and with red lettering on a white background.<p>The front was lightly taped with the blue oval also masked. I got a good look of the back and front 1/4 but not the 3/4 at the rear. The taping was less so than the most recent spy pics - however the rear looked virtually the same as the old spyshots. It appeared quite compact in size and was very neatly proportioned indeed. That makes it the 3rd Ford proto I've seen. The others being the current shape Mondeo and also the Fiesta face-lift from several years ago. My dad said that they had a R&D place in Brentwood - that could explain why I've seen them.<p>Once again - what an experience - I only wish I'd got a piccy in time.<br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Raj at 12:55 PM 11/5/2005</i>

AM2K
11-05-2005, 02:19 PM
The plate with red and white lettering is trade-plates used by manufacturers. Usually on cars not registered on UK roads or something? But its used a lot on prototypes in the UK anyway...<p>But the location definately makes sense. The Dunton facility is just off the M25 near Dartford nearby and thats where Ford does a lot of testing / R&D. <p>Hopefully next time you get a pic!

Arturo
11-05-2005, 04:56 PM
This car is definitely not going to be named "Mondeo D-Max" (like in Focus C-Max) but Galaxy. Main reason is that Ford is unhappy with the C-Max name as it provides them with too little possibilities to differentiate from the other Focus models. In the European market the C-Max is too close to the Focus estate and Ford is trying hard to make the C-Max look more different than the other Focuses.<p><A HREF="http://www.autowereld.com/imagesDB/640/5971131863_Ford-Focus.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autowereld.com/imag...s.jpg</A><p>I'll bet that the next C-Max will have a name of its own, just as the Renault Scenic (former "Megane Scenic"), Opel Zafira (not Astra MPV) and VW Touran (not Golf MPV).<p><br><i>Modified by Arturo at 1:19 AM 11/6/2005</i><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Ascariss at 6:06 PM 11/12/2005</i>

gawid
11-08-2005, 04:57 AM
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gawid
11-08-2005, 05:02 AM
<A HREF="http://www.ewanskelly.net/picture.php?cat=42&image_id=353" TARGET="_blank">http://www.ewanskelly.net/pict...d=353</A>

Arturo
11-12-2005, 05:08 PM
By the way, rumors in the European car press have it that the Galaxy II will have a Fiat Ulysse III/Lancia Phedra II sibling.

Chicho
11-13-2005, 06:42 AM
Autobild says that this is the new Galaxy<p><A HREF="http://www.autobild.de/projektor/galerie.php?pos=24&artikel_id=10115" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autobild.de/projekt...10115</A><p><A HREF="http://www.autobild.de/projektor/galerie.php?pos=23&artikel_id=10115" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autobild.de/projekt...10115</A><p><A HREF="http://www.autobild.de/projektor/galerie.php?pos=25&artikel_id=10115" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autobild.de/projekt...10115</A><p><br>and this one the S-max<p><A HREF="http://www.autobild.de/projektor/galerie.php?pos=22&artikel_id=10115" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autobild.de/projekt...10115</A><p><A HREF="http://www.autobild.de/projektor/galerie.php?pos=21&artikel_id=10115" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autobild.de/projekt...10115</A>

AM2K
11-13-2005, 07:16 AM
Video of the Ford Galaxy:<p><A HREF="http://www.autozeitung.de/index.php?page=movies&action=viewmovie&kind=dsl&id=14" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autozeitung.de/inde...id=14</A><br>

Omar
11-13-2005, 09:22 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Arturo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">By the way, rumors in the European car press have it that the Galaxy II will have a Fiat Ulysse III/Lancia Phedra II sibling.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>That's odd, around the time when Geneva show was on, I remember journalists were saying Ford are making the car on their own this time and there won't be any Fiat, VW, Seat siblings

CosworthKid
11-13-2005, 11:59 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>omar</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>That's odd, around the time when Geneva show was on, I remember journalists were saying Ford are making the car on their own this time and there won't be any Fiat, VW, Seat siblings</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Exactly, and all the British magazines still havent said otherwise. Where did you get your info Arturo?

Smart22186
11-13-2005, 12:58 PM
So going back to what chico said, is their going to be 2 new cars? a S-max and a new Galaxy? if so what are the diffrence~? by the look of the pics the S-max is like a people carrier of the mondeo ~ kinda like the renault scenic. and the grand scenic? <p>have i just answerd my own question? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> or maybe they going to have the galaxy and the grand galaxy? (playing on renault)

Arturo
11-13-2005, 03:46 PM
From Autobild.de:<br><I>"Auch das nchste Gemeinschaftsprojekt wurde hinter den Kulissen zumindest in groben Zgen bereits skizziert. Hier geht es um die nchste Van-Generation des Ulysse, bei der Fiat und PSA getrennte Wege gehen wollen. Da kommt die Ford-Connection in Form von Galaxy und S-Max gerade recht."</I><p>My best effort to translate this into English:<br>"Also the next co-operation has already been outlined on headlines behind the scenes. This time it's about the next Ulysse MPV generation, the current alliance with PSA will be broken. The connection with Ford, especially its Galaxy and S-Max, would be very practical."

CosworthKid
11-13-2005, 06:49 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Smart22186</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So going back to what chico said, is their going to be 2 new cars? a S-max and a new Galaxy? if so what are the diffrence~? by the look of the pics the S-max is like a people carrier of the mondeo ~ kinda like the renault scenic. and the grand scenic? <p>have i just answerd my own question? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> or maybe they going to have the galaxy and the grand galaxy? (playing on renault) </TD></TR></TABLE><p>There will be both an S-max(unofficial name) and a Galaxy. The Galaxy will be a seven seater proper big MPV which will be Ford Europe's largest vehicle and most luxurious so far. The S-Max will kinda be like what the C-Max is to the Focus..so yeah, you could say it will be like an MPV version of the Mondeo but with different styling and enough new bits to make it individual. Also, the Galaxy will emphasise on comfort and a relaxing ride while the S-Max should be more driver oriented and sporty(i hope!)

Chicho
11-15-2005, 07:23 AM
But why will it be broken? They've been developing cars since 80's and this works good so. Now they're working together in Boxer/Jumper/Ducato replacement and even Berlingo/Partner and Dobl

Arturo
11-15-2005, 12:46 PM
Why they would break up their co-operation with PSA? Well, it's clear that the Ulysse is in need of a replacement and there haven't been rumors of a new PSA MPV coming up. So, to shorten the product-to-market time, they could easily join the Ford MPV project. It is a win-win after all: Fiat gets a Ulysse replacement in a short time frame without much costs; Ford gets a MPV partner and can share cost. One only wonders who'll be PSA MPV partner ...<p><U>Future Euro MPV partners:</U><br>VW Sharan II & Chrysler Voyager (?)<br>Ford Galaxy II & Fiat Ulysse III (?)<br>Opel "?" & Saturn Outlook (?)<br>Peugeot 808/Citron C8 & ???<br>Renault Espace (no partner, they never had)<p><br>

CosworthKid
11-15-2005, 01:01 PM
That would make a lot of sense for Fiat but Ford has already spent all the money necessary to develop the Galaxy on its own. So how can Fiat help Ford cut costs at this point? And from what i see, the S-Max is also already in the final stages of development.

Chicho
11-15-2005, 03:27 PM
I agree with you and why does ulisee need a replacement? I think it's too early for all of them, that's the reason you didn't hear about a C8 / 607 replacement

boston
11-15-2005, 06:39 PM
Looks like two distinctly different vehicles here.....??????

AM2K
11-30-2005, 03:32 PM
<A HREF="http://forums.thecarfanatics.com/index.php?showtopic=3383&hl=" TARGET="_blank">Some new images.</A>

Ascariss
11-30-2005, 04:34 PM
That looks pretty f***ing sweet. why can't our freestart look like that. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/angry.gif" BORDER="0">

Hornbag
11-30-2005, 06:07 PM
Very nice, and taking into concideration its a MPV, it looks great! I love the side, really dramatic and un-Ford like. Something queir about the back though, tail lights mabey? They look upside down or something. But i beg Ford, please dont use those hideous round fog lights in the bumper, they look terrible...

Shomare
11-30-2005, 07:38 PM
Hell, that is a minivan that I'd actually drive if they brought it to the States.

Smart22186
12-01-2005, 11:54 AM
aint those photoes of the new S-Max? not the new galaxy? shouldnt we have 2 seperate threads for these 2 cars ? if u look at the rear window on the new galaxy it is a HUGE square, whereas this has more of a rounded back and a err... strange cut shape window.

AM2K
12-01-2005, 02:30 PM
yup, this is indeed the new S-Max. Looks stunning as well!!<p>I don't think there is a seperate thread (at least i couldnt find one) for the S-Max.. so for now we'll keep this one as the thread for both the S-Max and Gaxaxy (D-Max)

Hornbag
12-01-2005, 05:40 PM
Im confused...<p>So the S-Max is a 5 door version, like the C-Max. And the Galaxy, the D-Max is a big 7 seat version? I thought it was just going to be called Galaxy, not D-Max??? I think we need seperate threads...i mean they are different cars

CosworthKid
12-01-2005, 05:47 PM
Mate the D-Max monicker has been dropped since ages ago. It is officialy the Galaxy. For some reason this thred still uses the D-Max name and i dont understand why...Galaxy will offer 7-seats while the S-Max(name yet to be announced) will have 5-seats. Galaxy will be more up-market and practical while the "S-Max" will be more compact and sporty.

Hornbag
12-01-2005, 08:53 PM
Too easy! Thanks man <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Any word on the official name for the S-Max?

AM2K
12-02-2005, 12:39 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CosworthKid</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For some reason this thred still uses the D-Max name and i dont understand why...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>As i am sure i've mentioned before, its because people might not know the D-Max name has been dropped and may search using that name when on css.. Hence its wise to keep both the D-Max and Galaxy name...<p>We're not all well knowledged about the Galaxy naming like yourself.. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0">

bolita
12-02-2005, 01:59 PM
I might get bashed for this, but... the C-Max is a 5 person MPV and the Galaxy (aka D-Max) is a 7 pax MPV so this fits where?<p>IMO, it looks like it will be the best of the 3 products, but given the size from the pix I infer it would have 7 seats...

Hornbag
12-02-2005, 05:34 PM
I supose this is how it works...<p>- Sporty Focus C-Max (based of Focus)<br>- Sporty Mondeo/Galaxy S-Max (based of Galaxy, but i supose it will be fairly bigger in all respects comapired to the C-Max)<br>- Luxury Galaxy, the Bentley of the range!<p>But that would still leave a bit of an overlap between the C-Max and S-Max???

FordRules
12-02-2005, 05:58 PM
Man this would be an awesome Freestar replacement!

CosworthKid
12-02-2005, 06:01 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hilton</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I supose this is how it works...<p>- Sporty Focus C-Max (based of Focus)<br>- Sporty Mondeo/Galaxy S-Max (based of Galaxy, but i supose it will be fairly bigger in all respects comapired to the C-Max)<br>- Luxury Galaxy, the Bentley of the range!<p>But that would still leave a bit of an overlap between the C-Max and S-Max???</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Hehe, not exactly mate..this is how it goes:<br>C-Max: Focus sized and based MPV with five seats, not sporty just family oriented<br>S-Max(non-official name):sporty five seater MPV based on the next Mondeo<br>Galaxy: larger 7-seater MPV which will focus on refinement and generous kit and will be Ford Europe's biggest and most luxurious(for a Ford) passenger vehicle.

Hornbag
12-02-2005, 11:50 PM
Your too smart, i give up...lol

gawid
12-04-2005, 04:40 AM
<A HREF="http://forums.thecarfanatics.com/index.php?showtopic=3080" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.thecarfanatics.c...=3080</A><p><A HREF="http://forums.thecarfanatics.com/index.php?showtopic=3383" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.thecarfanatics.c...=3383</A><p>

Ascariss
12-04-2005, 01:32 PM
Already posted on the previous page.

bolita
12-05-2005, 07:15 AM
Thanks for the info, but I still feel that there is overlap between the C-Max and the so called S-Max.... Or am I way off??? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0">

Chicho
12-05-2005, 08:21 AM
I think they will have their own market as Focus and Mondeo. They are a little overlaped but there's no problem about it.

gawid
12-14-2005, 06:01 AM
<A HREF="http://www.carpassion.com/de/forum/attachments/erlkoenige-autos-zukunft/2484-new-ford-galaxy-facelift-173ie.jpg?d=1134565174" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carpassion.com/de/f...65174</A><p><A HREF="http://www.carpassion.com/de/forum/attachments/erlkoenige-autos-zukunft/2485-new-ford-galaxy-facelift-185uh.jpg?d=1134565184" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carpassion.com/de/f...65184</A><p><A HREF="http://www.carpassion.com/de/forum/attachments/erlkoenige-autos-zukunft/2486-new-ford-galaxy-facelift-198ak.jpg?d=1134565191" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carpassion.com/de/f...65191</A><p><A HREF="http://www.carpassion.com/de/forum/attachments/erlkoenige-autos-zukunft/2487-new-ford-galaxy-facelift-big_2888_fotoreporter_img_0236-20-small-.jpg?d=1134565198" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carpassion.com/de/f...65198</A>

kilibre
01-10-2006, 07:58 AM
Hi!<p>here it is some fresh spypics of the new Ford S-Max (ex-Ford SAV)<br>link: <A HREF="http://www.racewaynews.net/articolo.php?a_id=57" TARGET="_blank">http://www.racewaynews.net/articolo.php?a_id=57</A><p>Bye!<p>E.

knicks125
01-10-2006, 12:00 PM
<A HREF="http://autoblog.com/2006/01/10/ford-dubs-sav-the-s-max-in-europe" TARGET="_blank">http://autoblog.com/2006/01/10...urope</A>/<p>I recall we had a thread on this...<p>Look new to me (debuted)...

TeeDi
01-10-2006, 02:14 PM
So basically, they're going to offer the Galaxy in SWB and LWB and just give the SWB a different name for the sake of it??<p>Why not just call it Galaxy and Grand Galaxy?? LOL!!

AM2K
01-10-2006, 02:32 PM
Ford have confirmed that the production version of the SAV concept will be named S-Max. See Press release below:<p><br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><B>BRENTWOOD, January 10, 2006</B>  Ford has officially named the production version of its SAV Concept vehicle. It will be called the Ford S-MAX to indicate that it matches sports style and driving pleasure with flexible and spacious accommodation. <p>The Ford S-MAX is a new model in the Ford range, which in size terms is to be positioned below the full size seven-seat Ford Galaxy MPV. It will be built alongside the new Ford Galaxy at Ford's production facility in Genk, Belgium. Prices for S-MAX will be announced later in the year closer to its launch date. <p>Further details and technical specifications will be released to coincide with the car's public debut at the 2006 Geneva Motor Show in March.<p>A new name for a new type of vehicle<p>The Ford S-MAX demonstrates the potential within the large car market for a non-traditional three-seat-row vehicle with the profile, proportions and appearance that reflect an active lifestyle. It also indicates the potential for even more diversity in the heart of the Ford family car range, taking Ford into a new segment of the market. <p>S-MAX customers will benefit from the new Ford Fold Flat System (FFS) providing a seven seating configuration. This takes the flexible accommodation offered by Ford's other MAX vehicle, the Ford Focus C-MAX, one step further, while its S designation indicates that maximum space is provided in a sporty profile, and without sacrificing driving pleasure or style.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>

Mil
01-10-2006, 02:34 PM
Yea, i personally dont like these 'MAX' names, there to...somehow they just feel cheap and common, i dont know how they do...<p>Reminds me of simpson episiode where Homer changes his name to 'MAX Power'

Hornbag
01-11-2006, 04:35 AM
I think they are well marketed names. When I think "Max," I think of size, so it positions it as an MPV. When I think of S (such as Audi S4) I think sport. I think to a regular consumer and Ford, it makes perfect sence.

AM2K
02-04-2006, 08:24 AM
Some spy pics of the S-Max pretty much undisguised apart from some tape covering the badges:<p><A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/F/ford/s-max/03-large/ford-smax-feb06-001.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/m...1.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/F/ford/s-max/03-large/ford-smax-feb06-002.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/m...2.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/F/ford/s-max/03-large/ford-smax-feb06-003.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/m...3.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/F/ford/s-max/03-large/ford-smax-feb06-004.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/m...4.jpg</A><p>Full article can be read here:<p><A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/gallery/spyshots-2006/F/ford/s-max-feb06_page_4.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/g....html</A><p>Source: 4CAR

mzoltarp
02-04-2006, 08:29 AM
too bad the USA will never see it

CosworthKid
02-04-2006, 10:49 AM
Check this out, an official video of the Ford Galaxy from the Ford UK site, looks fantastic <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><A HREF="http://www.ford.co.uk/ie/frf_lmv/frf_lmv/frf_lmv_movie/-/-/-/-" TARGET="_blank">http://www.ford.co.uk/ie/frf_l...-/-/-</A><p>ps:may i suggest we move the Galaxy on a seperate thred into the new cars section?

JBlair
02-04-2006, 01:16 PM
The taillamps on that test vehicle bear a striking resemblance to the ones on the Iosis concept.

spwolf
02-04-2006, 02:40 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>AM2K</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Some spy pics of the S-Max pretty much undisguised apart from some tape covering the badges:<p><A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/F/ford/s-max/03-large/ford-smax-feb06-001.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/m...1.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/F/ford/s-max/03-large/ford-smax-feb06-002.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/m...2.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/F/ford/s-max/03-large/ford-smax-feb06-003.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/m...3.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/F/ford/s-max/03-large/ford-smax-feb06-004.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/m...4.jpg</A><p>Full article can be read here:<p><A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/gallery/spyshots-2006/F/ford/s-max-feb06_page_4.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/g....html</A><p>Source: 4CAR</TD></TR></TABLE><p>it doesnt look as smooth as concept, but it still looks good. Ford Europe has some nice looking cars.

bolita
02-04-2006, 08:34 PM
No wonder Ford Europe is making a profit... just look at the product it has and upcoming.<p>This is a mini van so much nicer than the Freestar . I can't understand why they wont have it in the US....

Hornbag
02-06-2006, 05:14 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bolita</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No wonder Ford Europe is making a profit... just look at the product it has and upcoming.<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Are you 100% sure on that one???<p>I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I dread those naff looking round foglights situated high in the bumper. They looks cheap and nasty, like a poorly designed add-on. They really are an appauling design clause to what is essentually a very sharp, perhaps even aggressive by MPV stadards, modern looking vehicle <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

AM2K
02-19-2006, 06:38 AM
Here are some leaked press pics of the all new S-Max:<p><IMG SRC="http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/7659/scoop012yb.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://img116.imageshack.us/img116/8385/scoop020ef.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Source: <A HREF="http://www.FordEurope.net" TARGET="_blank">http://www.FordEurope.net</A> <p>I've also seen one of these pics in a newspaper here, so i think official press release is days away..<br>

AM2K
02-19-2006, 06:51 AM
And some more pics from WhatCar:<p><A HREF="http://www.whatcar.com/Car/Ford/1626654561.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.whatcar.com/Car/Ford/1626654561.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.whatcar.com/Car/Ford/1626655631.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.whatcar.com/Car/Ford/1626655631.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.whatcar.com/Car/Ford/1626654561.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.whatcar.com/Car/Ford/1626654561.jpg</A><p>Article can be read at:<p><A HREF="http://www.whatcar.com/news-special-report.aspx?NA=218699" TARGET="_blank">http://www.whatcar.com/news-sp...18699</A><p>

MtViewGuy188
02-19-2006, 09:17 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mzoltarp</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">too bad the USA will never see it</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The Ford S-Max with the upcoming I-6 Volvo engine and a six-speed automatic would actually be a hot-selling car in the USA. I'd buy one in no time flat! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Speedster S
02-19-2006, 09:27 AM
This is what Ford should use to replace the Freestar

JBlair
02-19-2006, 10:42 AM
I may be missing something, but how is this different than the Galaxy?

wallabyguy
02-19-2006, 02:11 PM
Great looking car that would compete directly with the Mazda 5 (a good reason not to bring it here). It is smaller than the Galaxy. Mercury needs something like this along with the new Mondeo to restart the line. Leave Ford with the new Fairlane and Fusion to seperate the lines.

Rossell
02-19-2006, 02:34 PM
And thus begins Fords regeneration.

odic
02-19-2006, 03:49 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I may be missing something, but how is this different than the Galaxy?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>the s-max is, as said, smaller. but also it's about 20 cm lower and a 5 + 2 seater. the new galaxy is meant to be a 7 seater, as the grand voyager. <br>so the s-max is more the size of a current galaxy and the new galaxy is the size of a grand voyager. <p>it's placed between a Mondeo clipper (break, estate,...) and the new galaxy, using the same chassis and engines. <p>and as some say, it sure is nicer than the freestar, even the new galaxy to me is nicer than the freestar.<br>

Gian86
02-19-2006, 06:07 PM
The s-max looks nice but is this car look prototype because of some sporty looks like side scoops.

JBlair
02-19-2006, 07:56 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Gian86</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The s-max looks nice but is this car look prototype because of some sporty looks like side scoops.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Nope, its the full on production version.

odic
02-20-2006, 07:13 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Gian86</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The s-max looks nice but is this car look prototype because of some sporty looks like side scoops.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>what about the new honda civic? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

62Lincoln
02-21-2006, 10:28 AM
Here's some info gleaned from the press kit to compare to U.S. minivans: <p>Freestar: Length 201.0 in, Width 76.4 in<br>New Galaxy: 189.8 in, Width 73.0 in<br>New S-Max: 187.7 in, Width 73.0 in<p>So, the Galaxy is 11.1 in shorter and 3.4 in less wide... With S-Max 2.1 in, even shorter. As it turns out the Galaxy and the old Mazda MPV are really close in size.<p>Other U.S. market minivans:<p>Grand Caravan: 200.5 in, Width 78.6 in<br>Odyssey: 201.0 in, Width 77.1 in<p>So in response to the calls for Ford to import one or the other, I don't think either product lines up size wise to the U.S. competition. And the U.S. market has demonstrated a lack of interest in the smaller size van (see Nissan Quest/Mercury Villager & Mazda MPV), so Ford's path in the U.S. with the Fairlane and its Lincoln twin built on the D3 makes more sense. Too bad, I really like the styling applied to the S-Max.