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alessdamico
02-13-2005, 10:35 AM
Source: Autorevue.cz<p><A HREF="http://www.autorevue.cz/Images/4858/11.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autorevue.cz/Images/4858/11.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.autorevue.cz/Images/4858/22.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autorevue.cz/Images/4858/22.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.autorevue.cz/Images/4858/33.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autorevue.cz/Images/4858/33.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.autorevue.cz/Images/4858/44.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autorevue.cz/Images/4858/44.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.autorevue.cz/Images/4858/55.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autorevue.cz/Images/4858/55.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.autorevue.cz/Images/4858/66.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autorevue.cz/Images/4858/66.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.autorevue.cz/Images/4858/88.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autorevue.cz/Images/4858/88.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.autorevue.cz/Images/4858/111111.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autorevue.cz/Images/4858/111111.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.autorevue.cz/Images/4858/444444.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autorevue.cz/Images/4858/444444.jpg</A><p><br><i>Modified by Ascariss at 10:57 AM 2/13/2005</i><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Ascariss at 10:58 AM 2/13/2005</i>

TheJoyof6
02-13-2005, 11:15 AM
With that camo it makes the car look like a Grand Prix. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>It does look smaller almost S60 size.

alessdamico
02-13-2005, 12:52 PM
Someone agree that this car could be the new C70?<p>Another internet user believe that the rear door it's fake by looking at this image:<p><A HREF="http://www.autorevue.cz/Images/4858/55.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autorevue.cz/Images/4858/55.jpg</A><p>In fact, if you look in the bottom of the doors, they are not in the same level...or at least their camuflage protection...<p>What do you guys can say about it?<p>Thanks<p><br>

LEXUS FAN!
02-13-2005, 01:04 PM
the links are not working for me

AM2K
02-13-2005, 01:24 PM
There's heavy cladding over the doors, so perhaps its that cladding which gives the impression of wrong allignment? The rest of the body seems to work around the fact there is a rear door...

JBlair
02-13-2005, 02:10 PM
This can't be the S80; its way too small and all of the proportioning is wrong. Its either the next S60 or the C70, but it is not the S80.

sc43018
02-13-2005, 04:09 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This can't be the S80; its way too small and all of the proportioning is wrong. Its either the next S60 or the C70, but it is not the S80. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>judging by the 4 doors, i think we can safely assume it is not the C70. I agree with you, more than likely it isnt the S80, but we really dont know

Charger
02-13-2005, 07:41 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Volvo is preparing an all new replacement for the companys top-of-the-line S80, for release sometime in 2006. The current S80 underwent a restyling in 2003.<p>These photos show for the first time a prototype during cold-weather testing on a frozen lake in Scandinavia. The car is still disguised, yet the new styling is clearly visible. The next S80 is again a four-door sedan but with a much rounder and more V-shaped body than its predecessor. It is again front-wheel drive and is expected to get power from a variety of four- and six- cylinder engines, as before. According to rumours from Sweden it could also be available with Volvos new eight-cylinder engine.<p> </TD></TR></TABLE><br>source: tcc

Soul Man
02-13-2005, 07:52 PM
says it was testing on a frozen lake, huh? what are teh chances of it melting, besides wouldnt you think volvo learned its lesson with water when that ship went down with all of those volvo's, oh well , i hope forvolvo's sake thats a solid ice formation, or there going to have to learn the lesson the hard way

TheJoyof6
02-13-2005, 07:58 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Dooey</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">says it was testing on a frozen lake, huh? what are teh chances of it melting, besides wouldnt you think volvo learned its lesson with water when that ship went down with all of those volvo's, oh well , i hope forvolvo's sake thats a solid ice formation, or there going to have to learn the lesson the hard way</TD></TR></TABLE><p>You dont get out much do ya Dooey? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Soul Man
02-13-2005, 08:18 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>TheJoyof6</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>You dont get out much do ya Dooey? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><br>well it may be that or, it may be that i have gotten out so much ive learned the lesson the hard way <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0"> , think about it. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icon11.gif" BORDER="0">

Reppu
02-14-2005, 12:08 AM
Getting back to this pic:<br><A HREF="http://www.autorevue.cz/Images/4858/55.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autorevue.cz/Images/4858/55.jpg</A><p>The cladding shows two doors on each side. But i agree that at the bottom, below the cladding, it can be seen a single big door. I think this is the C70.

Ascariss
02-14-2005, 12:33 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Reppu</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Getting back to this pic:<br><A HREF="http://www.autorevue.cz/Images/4858/55.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autorevue.cz/Images/4858/55.jpg</A><p>The cladding shows two doors on each side. But i agree that at the bottom, below the cladding, it can be seen a single big door. I think this is the C70.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The small sized pics do it no justice.<p>in a larger version of this pic:<br><A HREF="http://www.autorevue.cz/Images/4858/22.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autorevue.cz/Images/4858/22.jpg</A><p>you can clearly see the rear door lines.<p><A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/gallery/9116_image.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co...e.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/gallery/9117_image.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co...e.jpg</A>

Chris_Doane
02-14-2005, 01:24 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Dooey</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">says it was testing on a frozen lake, huh? what are teh chances of it melting, besides wouldnt you think volvo learned its lesson with water when that ship went down with all of those volvo's, oh well , i hope forvolvo's sake thats a solid ice formation, or there going to have to learn the lesson the hard way</TD></TR></TABLE><p>That lake is near the Arctic cirlce. I think the chances of it melting at the moment are....uhh..pretty thin.

Hornbag
02-14-2005, 04:14 AM
How can anyone even tell there is a Volvo underthere??? Its so heavily cladded. Reminds me of a Holden Commodore and a Dodge Neon for some reason???

carrera4
02-14-2005, 04:25 AM
Don't know, but they're clearly using volvo rims and seats...

Hornbag
02-14-2005, 04:29 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>carrera4</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't know, but they're clearly using volvo rims and seats...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Are you sure. Im really blind... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/eek2.gif" BORDER="0">

Giannis
02-14-2005, 05:45 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hornbag_1</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Are you sure. Im really blind... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/eek2.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>he is right <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> . dad's S60 has the same rims and the same headrests as i can see. and i think that these headlights are the same with the 2005 S60<br>(the one dad has) i'm 100% sure

Laguna
02-14-2005, 06:02 AM
Yeah it looks more like the Grand Prix. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0">

carrera4
02-14-2005, 06:32 AM
the rims are very similar to the pegasus model<br><IMG SRC="http://volvo.autowebaccessories.com/store/images/volvo/s60PegasusWheel18x8TitaniumGrey.gif" BORDER="0"><br>but with six spokes...<br>the headrests are typically volvo<p><IMG SRC="http://img232.exs.cx/img232/6562/4444440ze.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>Thanks to ImageShack for <A HREF="http://www.imageshack.us" TARGET="_blank">Free Image Hosting</A><br>

RoAnSa
02-14-2005, 07:43 AM
its not so cold, only around -7C. But the lakes does not melting before April

swedefe
02-14-2005, 08:30 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Tcc/Charger</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>The next S80 is again a four-door sedan but with a much rounder and more V-shaped body than its predecessor. It is again front-wheel drive and is expected to get power from a variety of four- and six- cylinder engines, as before. According to rumours from Sweden it could also be available with Volvos new eight-cylinder engine.<br>source: tcc<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>The TCC-article has to be commented - The S80 Volvo have never before had a 4 cylinder option, nor the smaller V70 or S60.<p>Of course the Yamaha V8 will end up in the new S80 - not even Swedes are shipping engines from across the world just to slip them in one single compartement - the XC 90!<p>Finally - using the frozen lakes is more or less risk-free, until crappy transmission ventvalves causes a fire under the car; one of the V8 XC90 caught fire during the press show at Ivalo, Northen Finland...<p>Swedefe

Dahlis
02-14-2005, 08:31 AM
that cant be the new s80 it lokks much to small

knicks125
02-14-2005, 08:36 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Dahlis</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that cant be the new s80 it lokks much to small</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I don't know if the camo car is in fact the new S80 or not, but how big do you want the S80 to be, that car looks fairly large

Dahlis
02-14-2005, 08:40 AM
If it was up to me it would be a really big one like the VCC concept whith RWD.

Laguna
02-14-2005, 09:45 AM
It probably have a 4WD drive system because normal cars cant go as fast as it is going in snow. Sorry. In other words it might have a 4WD system.

[AP]adiweb
02-14-2005, 09:46 AM
also have a look at the rear view mirrors and compare them with the one of the s40 <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

knicks125
02-14-2005, 10:06 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Laguna</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It probably have a 4WD drive system because normal cars cant go as fast as it is going in snow. Sorry. In other words it might have a 4WD system.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It's not probable, it will

Laguna
02-14-2005, 10:07 AM
Really??? 2 in 1. 4X4 and a family car. Wise idea Volvo. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emcocktl.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>

protocatcher
02-14-2005, 12:20 PM
Its an S80, they are driving it with an old S80 and an Audi A6.

Hornbag
02-15-2005, 12:28 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Giannis</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>he is right <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> . dad's S60 has the same rims and the same headrests as i can see. and i think that these headlights are the same with the 2005 S60<br>(the one dad has) i'm 100% sure</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Thanks, im getting better glasses in a couple of weeks so everyone will have to try to ignor me when sight is concerned! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Does anyne have any impressions of wat the car will look like???

Andre
02-15-2005, 01:29 AM
I'm working on a sketch I hope to get up tomorrow, but it seems it may not be up before wednesday or thursday

thegriffon
03-13-2005, 07:43 AM
It's big enough (only E-segment after all), and there aren't any other fwd sedans that big likely to be testing in Scandinavia except the 95 and 169 and it clearly isn't either of those. The trouble is it doesn't look much like a Volvo either. Perhaps the characteristic shoulderline will be more evident in later photos.

AM2
03-13-2005, 08:59 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>thegriffon</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> The trouble is it doesn't look much like a Volvo either. Perhaps the characteristic shoulderline will be more evident in later photos.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>It has thick cladding, so it doesn't look like a Volvo... but the side mirrors, headlights and wheels look like their from Volvos...<br>It does look like its S60 sized... <br><IMG SRC="http://img91.exs.cx/img91/7957/volvos80spypic8sw.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.familycar.com/RoadTests/VolvoS60/Images/RightSide-sm.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.knoxautoshow.com/2004/vehicles/2004%20Volvo%20S80%20side.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>short rear make it appear to look like an S60... could this really be the next S80? I'd expect the S80 to look bigger since the current model is about the size of the Audi A6 or Acura RL.<p><br><i>Modified by AM2 at 12:06 AM 3/14/2005</i><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by AM2 at 12:08 AM 3/14/2005</i>

-Peter-
03-13-2005, 10:47 AM
maybe it really is S80 in the spyshot, but they have made the wheelbase longer, so it looks smaller and S60-esque.<p>look at the rims, they look quite small compared to the wheelbase

Hornbag
03-14-2005, 05:17 AM
-Peter- makes a point. Those wheels r rather small...

bolita
03-16-2005, 07:31 AM
Perhaps the angles makes the wheels look smaller when in reality they are "sunk" in due to the cladding...<br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

RH (autorevu)
03-19-2005, 02:21 AM
It can be everything, I saw this pictures before and there they said it was the new S40.. so these photo's are really old.<p>I'm for sure it's NOT the new S80!

mzoltarp
03-19-2005, 06:00 AM
Ford owns Volvo. Ford raids Volvo's platforms to make new products for itself. Has anyone wondered if this "Volvo" is the Lincoln LS replacement? I know that's out there but from what I've read, the next LS will lose rear wheel drive.

protocatcher
03-19-2005, 10:31 AM
RH.......this pics are not very old , they where taken during februari. And yes , they are showing the new Volvo S80.<br>If u have seen some pics saying they where the S40 then that will be other pics and those pics would be very old .<br>But this car was driving together with an Audi A6 and an old S80 , at a place that is being used by Volvo.<p>Sorry , but i guess u are mistaken.

Ascariss
03-19-2005, 11:32 AM
How many people have actually seen this prototype in person? I can only think of one, so the rest of ya, really can't say nothing. :p

AM2
03-20-2005, 01:05 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mzoltarp</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Has anyone wondered if this "Volvo" is the Lincoln LS replacement? I know that's out there but from what I've read, the next LS will lose rear wheel drive.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Lincoln already has a new Fusion/Milan based Zephyr which is similar in size to the S80.... no Volvo will replace any Lincoln, they are considered 2 separate brands.<br><IMG SRC="http://www.autoindex.org/images/cars/4074/4683/norm_3_Zephyr_MY2006_USA.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>Of course they may share platforms in the future...

mzoltarp
03-20-2005, 05:39 AM
The Fusion/Mazda6 platform is smaller than the Volvo S80 chassis.

AM2
03-20-2005, 02:34 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mzoltarp</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Fusion/Mazda6 platform is smaller than the Volvo S80 chassis.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Its only slightly smaller.<br>The the Fusion/Milan/Zephyr uses an enlarged Mazda 6 platfrom which explains why its nearly as big as an S80.<br><B>Lincoln Zephyr</B><br>Wheelbase 107.4 in <br>Length 190.5 in <br>Width 72.2 in <br>Height 55.9 in <br>Front track 61.6 in <br>Rear track 61.3 in <p>Front Head Room: 38.7 in <br>Rear Head Room: 37.8 in <br>Front Shoulder Room: 56.9 in<br>Rear Shoulder Room: 55.6 in<br>Front Hip Room: 54.1 in<br>Rear Hip Room: 53.6 in<br>Front Leg Room: 42.3 in<br>Rear Leg Room: 37.0 in<br>Luggage Capacity: 15.8 cu. ft.<p><br><B>Volvo S80</B><br>Wheelbase 109.9 in<br>Length 190.9 in<br>Width 72.1 in<br>Height 57.2 in<br>Front track 61.8 in<br>Rear track 61.8in<p>Front Head Room: 38.9 in<br>Rear Head Room: 37.6 in <br>Front Shoulder Room: 58 in <br>Rear Shoulder Room: 56.9 in<br>Front Hip Room: 55.3 in<br>Rear Hip Room: 55.6 in<br>Front Leg Room: 42.2 in<br>Rear Leg Room: 35.9 in <br>Luggage Capacity: 14.4 cu. ft. <p><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by AM2 at 5:46 AM 3/21/2005</i>

Charger
04-06-2005, 01:21 PM
<A HREF="http://info.detnews.com/dn/pix/2005/04/06/0drive/dr06-SneakPeek-0405n_04-06-2005_NR58A40.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://info.detnews.com/dn/pix...0.jpg</A><br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Volvo flagship gets a facelift for 2007<p><br> Volvo is testing prototypes of the next-generation S80 sedan. Ford Motor Co.'s Swedish subsidiary expects to begin production of the redesigned four-door in mid-2006, with the U.S. version reaching dealers sometime in the fall as a 2007 model.<br> The S80, as Volvo's flagship, will be offered again in front- and all-wheel-drive variants. The company expects to provide customers with a range of engine choices, and is rumored to be considering the new 4.4-liter V-8 as a top-of-the-line option. A turbo-diesel might also be available for the first time in North America.<br> The S80 is expected to share its underpinnings with an all-new range-topping wagon, known internally as the V90, which also would borrow some components from the XC90 sport utility vehicle. The V90 isn't expected before 2008-09.<br> <br> --Paul Lienert<p><br></TD></TR></TABLE><br>Source: detnews

saabish
04-20-2005, 06:14 AM
Must admit that it's a good camo, hard to tell what's under (though the "5"-door looks VERY small).

stewacide
04-20-2005, 08:01 AM
I would have expected the new S80 to be a bit bigger than that. With the new V8 and all Volvo is going more agressively after the American market...<p>And I highly doubt it's any Lincoln. WAY to small to be a new Conti' or TC...

nismo
04-20-2005, 09:47 AM
I think Volvo will finally have a real 5er competitor when this arrives... especially with the new V8 option. I hope they make it a bold Volvo design to get attention and create a buzz..<p>saabish, what do you mean by "5" door..? this isn't a hatch...<br>

Smart22186
05-20-2005, 06:26 PM
I was looking very hard at the picture recently posted in the Volvo c70 thread and have noticed that the pics of this Volvo could in fact be the c70, as you can see (if this works out) where I have marked with the arrows the car is actually under the camo (yeah I know that makes sense) but if u look into that rear door u can see a different shape piece of glass under it, the end of that glass doesnt line up with that of a rear door (its pointy) as u can also see the rear door where it joins up with the (so called glass) by the handle at the edge of the door (the bit that normally goes around the rear glass) disappears and u can clearly see that the cladding on the roof is a lot thicker then the car itself, giving it a totally diff appearance.<br><A HREF="http://img1.imageuploader.net/show.php?img=olv_opy.JPG&d=131" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img1.imageuploader.net/131/tn_olv_opy.JPG" BORDER="0"></A>

protocatcher
05-20-2005, 11:00 PM
That really is the S80, talked to some people inside of Volvo and they confirmed it .<br>The new S80 (even heard it will be called S90 to make clear its a new model ) will be more CLS like then the old boxy S80. More of an Coupesaloon . Will probably be shown in Detroit in January.

cowboysnkisses
05-21-2005, 12:58 AM
it really is a four door. if it were a coupe the front door would be much longer than that...

toni
07-06-2005, 10:32 PM
Let's post it here also:<p> <IMG SRC="http://daven.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/S80_1.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p> <IMG SRC="http://daven.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/S80_2.jpg" BORDER="0">

protocatcher
07-07-2005, 01:22 AM
The Grill is to small........from what i heard the grille will be moore Audi like , but not as big as the Audis .....

against the wall
07-07-2005, 08:15 AM
that last pic looks like a streched s40 so its probably a chop of the s40.

Zizo
07-07-2005, 10:45 AM
Yep<p><IMG SRC="http://www.pdxguide.com/cars/Volvo/S40.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.volvocars-pr.com/media/images/low/1809_1.jpg" BORDER="0">

AM2
07-07-2005, 02:20 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>protocatcher</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Grill is to small........from what i heard the grille will be moore Audi like , but not as big as the Audis .....</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Hmmm... thats an idea... Volvo did use a large grill for their old falgship model, the 6-cylinder 164...<br><IMG SRC="http://www.vlvworld.com/photo_pieces/Volvo_164.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>

Tidal
07-07-2005, 03:34 PM
I think ( hope ) their going for something a litle bit more like this:<p><A HREF="http://img12.imageshack.us/my.php?image=volvovcc2yg.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/7586/volvovcc2yg.th.jpg" BORDER="0"></A><p>At least i hope they do something diferent with the design, the S80 was the one who started their current design language and although it still looks good, it's about time for a change imo.

AXLE
07-10-2005, 08:13 AM
I have been dreaming of a retro 164 Like what jaguar did with the S-type. That would be AWESOME!!!!

rasmien
07-10-2005, 10:37 AM
Both Zizo and Toni posted photochoffs, I find them far obvious...

The Water Is Poison
07-11-2005, 01:45 PM
No... Zizo posted the pictures of the S40 which were used for that photoshop of the S80

Zizo
07-12-2005, 03:38 AM
That's right <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

Hornbag
07-12-2005, 04:46 AM
I prefer the smaller grille. Its a good thing that the S80 has the S40's look IMO...i like how the rear door goes as well, kinda S60 like<p>

Top Secret
07-12-2005, 05:04 AM
It probably won't though. Those are just chops.

Hornbag
07-12-2005, 05:13 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Top Secret</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It probably won't though. Those are just chops.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>You got to be kidding me, they look real <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>

Top Secret
07-12-2005, 05:19 AM
See below Hornbag:<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>toni</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><IMG SRC="http://daven.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/S80_1.jpg" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bonzo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that last pic looks like a streched s40 so its probably a chop of the s40.</TD></TR></TABLE><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Zizo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yep<p><IMG SRC="http://www.pdxguide.com/cars/Volvo/S40.jpg" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE><br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Santeno at 9:30 AM 7/12/2005</i>

JBlair
07-12-2005, 09:47 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Top Secret</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">See below Hornbag:<p><i>Modified by Santeno at 9:30 AM 7/12/2005</i></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Uhm.......ever heard of Sarcasm?

Hornbag
07-13-2005, 12:38 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Uhm.......ever heard of Sarcasm?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>LMAO <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>

carspynut
07-13-2005, 05:35 AM
I look forward to this release. While the S80 lacks the clout of it's competitiors it was every bit just as competitive. Now with a V8 and design which looks promising and has character (as indicated by the wagon concept), it looks even more promising. Volvos have an understatement that I like and even after Ford's "intervention" has neither lost its reliability nor its core value of safe, and solid design. Got to give them lots of respect. When are they say this is going to be released?

Omar
07-13-2005, 10:33 AM
Volvo have got give their cars more desirability. The S40/V50's interior was a revelation, but they missed out one thing: the steering wheel.<p>Sitting in a Volvo, the driver looks down and the first thing he sees is the steering wheel. It's gotta look good... and these Volvo ones are so plain and boring.

bolita
08-15-2005, 01:26 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>carspynut</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I look forward to this release. While the S80 lacks the clout of it's competitiors it was every bit just as competitive. Now with a V8 and design which looks promising and has character (as indicated by the wagon concept), it looks even more promising. Volvos have an understatement that I like and even after Ford's "intervention" has neither lost its reliability nor its core value of safe, and solid design. Got to give them lots of respect. When are they say this is going to be released?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It was mentioned before in the thread that I may be shown in Detroit and launched fall 2006 as a 2007 model... May be earlier in Europe...

CosworthKid
08-27-2005, 09:11 AM
<A HREF="http://www.wheels24.co.za/Wheels24/Galleries/w24_GalleriesModelDetailComp/0,,1474,00.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.wheels24.co.za/Whee....html</A><p><A HREF="http://www.wheels24.co.za/Wheels24/News/0,,1369-1372_1760278,00.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.wheels24.co.za/Whee....html</A><p>Check this article from Wheels24 along with spy pics and cg render of S80

toni
08-28-2005, 04:12 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CosworthKid</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><A HREF="http://www.wheels24.co.za/Wheels24/Galleries/w24_GalleriesModelDetailComp/0,,1474,00.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.wheels24.co.za/Whee....html</A><p><A HREF="http://www.wheels24.co.za/Wheels24/News/0,,1369-1372_1760278,00.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.wheels24.co.za/Whee....html</A><p>Check this article from Wheels24 along with spy pics and cg render of S80</TD></TR></TABLE><p>But interesting that now they say:<p>"This is the car Volvo hopes will give the Audi A8, BMW 7 Series and new Mercedes S-Class a run for their money."<p>I have always thought that rivals are BMW5 and MB E-class...<p>Which model will then be the 5 series and E-class rivals ?<br>

beatnik
08-28-2005, 08:36 AM
yup the s80's rivals are 7 series, A8, S-class<br>S60 competes with 5 series, A6, E-class<br>and S40.. u can figure it out :)

The Artist
08-28-2005, 09:11 AM
LOL you are pretty wrong.. go and check the prices for the S80 and compare it to the S,7 and A8...

protocatcher
08-28-2005, 09:27 AM
The rivals of the S80 are BMW 5 series and Audi A6 and MB E-class. <br>During the winter tests they drove the A6 as an compare vehicle. That says it all.<br>S 60 is moore of an 3 series , A4 and C-class competitor and S40 ...well....Golf, Focus and so on .

autodanse
08-28-2005, 11:09 AM
i dont understand all these renderings' curved up 5-series-like headlights. they dont look good at all. plus, isnt the s80 going to take a lot of cues from the VCC?<p><IMG SRC="http://www.conceptcar.co.uk/concept-cars/images/volvo-vcc-front.jpg" BORDER="0">

CosworthKid
08-31-2005, 02:51 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>protocatcher</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The rivals of the S80 are BMW 5 series and Audi A6 and MB E-class. <br>During the winter tests they drove the A6 as an compare vehicle. That says it all.<br>S 60 is moore of an 3 series , A4 and C-class competitor and S40 ...well....Golf, Focus and so on .</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Actually i reckon Volvo's dont really compete head to head with any of these cars. The Volvo S40, for example, should be a competitor to the Focus/BMW 1/A3/Golf etc but in fact most people pitch it more towards the 3-series despite the low price and smaller size. Same for S60 and S80, they all have different sizes and price tags from cars of their segment. Maybe the fact that Volvo is doing a new hatch to directly target cars such as the Golf is proof that the company is re-thinking and re-sizing their future cars to make them less confusing

Hornbag
08-31-2005, 03:42 AM
Ive always though the S40 as A4 size, the S60 as 5 series and S80 as S class?<p>But now u mention it, it makes a lot more sence now.<p>I wouldnt go as far to say that the S40 is a Focus compeditor, it would be closer to a 1 series and Golf? But mags seem to compair it with the the 3 series ect?<p>Now i can see why they wana rethink their sizing!!!

nismo
08-31-2005, 01:27 PM
-The S40 competes with the lower model 3er, C-class<br>-while the S60 competes with mid-level and up 3er, C-class<br>... same like Acuras TSX/TL models<br>-the S80 is 5er, E-class, M, GS<p>S40 is in no way Civic and Focus competition <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/all_coholic.gif" BORDER="0">

Dahlis
08-31-2005, 01:50 PM
It needs to have big chrome grill.

-Zouz-
09-05-2005, 04:19 PM
<A HREF="http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/1556556d.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pics/1556556d.jpg</A>

galv
09-05-2005, 05:03 PM
Funky alloys! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0"> Looks great but Volvo should seriously start using their own mechanicals.

nismo
09-05-2005, 10:59 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>futuredriver</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Funky alloys! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0"> Looks great but Volvo should seriously start using their own mechanicals.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>They already do for the most part, They have no rebadges...

knihc2008
09-06-2005, 12:48 AM
those look like the R-line alloys.

Hornbag
09-06-2005, 03:27 AM
I think they are the same design as the R wheels, but they look smaller?<p>

Gunfire
09-06-2005, 03:41 AM
Maybe the car is just bigger?

LSS_C6
09-06-2005, 08:11 AM
It seems too rounded...looks american!

bucket
09-06-2005, 08:16 AM
as much as i like volvos, i still don't see this car being a threat to the E-class and 5er without a switch to RWD. i don't see volvo doing this, as it is not in line with the safety standard which they adhere to. RWD means a longitudinally-mounted engine, which means increased risk of passenger compartment intrusion in the case of a head-on accident. keeping their engines transversely-mounted means they can drop under the vehicle more easily. even their V8 is mounted this way.<p>the hallmark of the E-class is its smooth, refined ride (i'd know, i have two of them). they are incredibly stable on the highway and as comfortable at 100mph as many cars are at 35. this is just not something you can accomplish with FWD. <p>the hallmark of the 5er is its sportiness. the S80 is FWD/AWD. enough said.

-Zouz-
09-06-2005, 08:41 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>LSS_C6</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It seems too rounded...looks american!</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Yes, it is because there is still a lot of camouflage.<br>Volvo want the car to look like a Taurus with all that tape.

Reppu
09-07-2005, 08:51 AM
The car does not look any bigger than the S60 in that last spy pic. It doesn't look like the passenger has plenty of space back there.

erzhik
09-07-2005, 09:13 AM
are those.. mirror turn signals? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/suave.gif" BORDER="0">

Nodnarb
09-07-2005, 09:56 AM
I think it will be just as successful as its predecessor. It doesn't need to be a threat to the 5-Series or the E-Class, and I don't think that's what Volvo is going for. It has its own niche and has done well enough there. It does not look too small, to me. You cannot really tell the ammount of backseat room based on where someone's head is. They could be leaning forward for all we know. Plus, backseat room was an Achilies heel for the current one, so it is unlikely that Volvo will not address it with this new one.

LEXUS FAN!
09-07-2005, 12:45 PM
is this the S80?<p><A HREF="http://studweb.hogent.be/~041400tn/22.JPG" TARGET="_blank">http://studweb.hogent.be/~041400tn/22.JPG</A><p>the wheels look identical

StevenZoz
09-07-2005, 12:47 PM
<A HREF="http://studweb.hogent.be/~041400tn/P2004_1876.JPG" TARGET="_blank">http://studweb.hogent.be/~041400tn/P2004_1876.JPG</A><p>another 1

Blob
09-07-2005, 01:22 PM
on the far wall where there are 4 pictures, the farleft one looks like the new C30. The others are the S40 and V50

geary
09-07-2005, 02:34 PM
For the 'design-rrom' spypics, I'm gonna say that the car under covers is the S40R, rather than an S80

autodanse
09-07-2005, 02:35 PM
what a hot silhouette

SHEPO
09-07-2005, 02:37 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>geary</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For the 'design-rrom' spypics, I'm gonna say that the car under covers is the S40R, rather than an S80</TD></TR></TABLE><p>wheelbase and trunk/hoodlines are too long to be. probably next s60 or s80

against the wall
09-07-2005, 02:59 PM
man, volvo is so damn clever with things like this. i think the drawing on the far right (the gold car) looks to be an suv/crossover. xc50 maybe?<p><br>btw, nice name for that site, studweb <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0">

sashok
09-07-2005, 06:57 PM
Wow who ever took those pics better be looking out <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Now is the C30/V30, the S60, or the S80 going to be unveiled at Frankfurt or Geneva?<p>Can't wait<p>BTW: I hope the car under the cover with the amazing-looking silhoutte is the new S60 and the one to the right of it under all different kinds of covers is the C/V30

toni
09-07-2005, 10:37 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bonzos montreaux</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">man, volvo is so damn clever with things like this. i think the drawing on the far right (the gold car) looks to be an suv/crossover. xc50 maybe?<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>First one in the wall looks C30, second one V50 (?), third one C70, and the last one some SUV (xc50 ?). But that SUV looks quite big...dunno.

synthesis
09-08-2005, 12:52 AM
they sure drink alot of water in sweden...

-Zouz-
09-08-2005, 07:47 AM
This picture <A HREF="http://studweb.hogent.be/~041400tn/P2004_1876.JPG" TARGET="_blank">http://studweb.hogent.be/~041400tn/P2004_1876.JPG</A> is from the Volvo media site.<p>So I don't think there is sometink secret in it.

sashok
09-08-2005, 08:06 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>toni</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">First one in the wall looks C30, second one V50 (?), third one C70, and the last one some SUV (xc50 ?). But that SUV looks quite big...dunno.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>If you zoom in, the third pic on the wall is in fact the C70. I thought it was the S40. So the one next to it (in yellow) is probably the xc50

DrPetrus
09-08-2005, 08:41 AM
Im surprised no one has mentioned the red car/clay-model yet. Another concept car? It bears some resemblance to the 3CC concept which also the upcoming C30/V30 is rumoured to do. Could it be the C30/V30? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icon11.gif" BORDER="0">

Dodger
09-08-2005, 09:09 AM
Since it looks like it could only fit one person, I am going to say no...

DrPetrus
09-08-2005, 09:25 AM
Scaling the car, using the persons in the room and estimating them to be ca 1,80m, gives a car that would be approximately 4,0m long and 1,55m high. Arent those measurements that would fit the C30/V30? It does look narrow though, I agree.

joesuv86
09-08-2005, 10:39 AM
Nice pic! doesn't show us too much..since its got that stupid blue cover..but the pics on the wall look like a possible xc50 or maybe a v90, too far away to tell...and the s80..and the concept from last year.. <br>so i guess we'll see this pretty soon....

toni
09-09-2005, 12:16 AM
I guess this is first S80 interior spy pic:<p><A HREF="http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/il/features/future/07.volvo.s80/07.volvo.s80.int.500.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><B>Interior Spy Shot</B></A><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by knicks125 at 8:44 AM 9/9/2005</i>

Hornbag
09-09-2005, 12:48 AM
Looks like that floating dash is a Volvo thing now...it looks ok, if slighly bland and predictable<p>The back looks very square on that official picture as well

knicks125
09-09-2005, 05:41 AM
<A HREF="http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=107153" TARGET="_blank"><B>Article + More Pics</B></A>

Dodger
09-09-2005, 07:19 AM
I like the interior overall but all that gray makes it look cold and harsh- I know some people like that though.<p>I can't wait till people start screaming that this thing has a V8 and is FWD biased. Since this can't really go up against RWD competition, its target seems to be the RL.

Smart22186
09-09-2005, 08:00 AM
I think all them water containers are to catch the water leaking trough the roof hense the unbrellas.

Nodnarb
09-09-2005, 08:41 AM
Eh, just a spy shot of a mule. I'm sure the interior will look beter in person. I see elements of the current S80 mixed with the floating dash, as Hornbag saidm from the S40. A bit predictable, but still, rather nicely done, apparently.

Ascariss
09-09-2005, 10:31 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Nodnarb</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Eh, just a spy shot of a mule. I'm sure the interior will look beter in person. I see elements of the current S80 mixed with the floating dash, as Hornbag saidm from the S40. A bit predictable, but still, rather nicely done, apparently.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I don't think you're using the word mule in the right context. A mule isn't a full out prototype with a new interior, as you can see. A mule is a car that has the running gear of a new model with the body of an older car, ie the previous generation. Usually the body is stuck on to make it fit with the new mechanicals and length, therefore it may look wonky sometimes. Mules rarely have new interiors, unless the car is testing the new interior with the older car, but I haven't seen that yet.<p>The interior pic is most likely production to an extent, example, shape and look. Materials will always be better than the prototype like in all test cars.<p>So again, this is no mule, but a full out prototype.

AM2K
09-09-2005, 11:14 AM
The only reason the interior material inside the Volvo looks so 'tacky' is two-fold. Firstly because obviously its pre-production, and secondly the most important factor is the Camera Flash. When taking a photo inside the car (which may be quite dark at times), the camera flash makes the plastic look all cheap. Its why u should never really rely on such photos for a good idea of the interior..

Dodger
09-09-2005, 11:27 AM
Okay, this got blown way out proportion as usual. I was merely stating that the <B>color</B> and only the color made the interior look cold. I was in no way making any reference to the materials used. I simply ment that everything in the interior was gray and that monochrome scheme makes it look uninviting to me.

Nodnarb
09-09-2005, 11:30 AM
.<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Ascariss</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I don't think you're using the word mule in the right context. A mule isn't a full out prototype with a new interior, as you can see. A mule is a car that has the running gear of a new model with the body of an older car, ie the previous generation. Usually the body is stuck on to make it fit with the new mechanicals and length, therefore it may look wonky sometimes. Mules rarely have new interiors, unless the car is testing the new interior with the older car, but I haven't seen that yet.<p>The interior pic is most likely production to an extent, example, shape and look. Materials will always be better than the prototype like in all test cars.<p>So again, this is no mule, but a full out prototype.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>That's what I meant, but you're right, I used the wrong word there. That's ultimately what I was getting at, though, that this is the production interior, but the crappy finish is because of it being a test car, they aren't as tight on the tolerances and what not.

Chris_Doane
09-09-2005, 02:40 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>toni</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I guess this is first S80 interior spy pic:<p><A HREF="http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/il/features/future/07.volvo.s80/07.volvo.s80.int.500.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><B>Interior Spy Shot</B></A><p><br><i>Modified by knicks125 at 8:44 AM 9/9/2005</i></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Anyone notice that KGP is starting to trespass lately by lifting up the car covers to get interior photos? The car cover is clearly still on in this photo. Same happened with the Equus photos.

Chris_Doane
09-09-2005, 02:42 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Ascariss</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I don't think you're using the word mule in the right context. A mule isn't a full out prototype with a new interior, as you can see. A mule is a car that has the running gear of a new model with the body of an older car, ie the previous generation. Usually the body is stuck on to make it fit with the new mechanicals and length, therefore it may look wonky sometimes. Mules rarely have new interiors, unless the car is testing the new interior with the older car, but I haven't seen that yet.<p>The interior pic is most likely production to an extent, example, shape and look. Materials will always be better than the prototype like in all test cars.<p>So again, this is no mule, but a full out prototype.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>You're definitely right about that. The word "mule" is misued all the time.

Ascariss
09-09-2005, 03:02 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CD-BP</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Anyone notice that KGP is starting to trespass lately by lifting up the car covers to get interior photos? The car cover is clearly still on in this photo. Same happened with the Equus photos.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It's just a car cover, unlike actual camo that is taped on or stuck on with some fasteners, the cover isn't really camo in my opinion. As for trespassing, going onto private property is trespassing in my book, slightly removing the cloth cover isn't. Once physical camo, ie plastic or tape starts coming off, this is where the trouble starts.<p>It was volvo's fault to not cover up the interior with some cloth or whatever, that's my view on this.

Chris_Doane
09-09-2005, 03:39 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Ascariss</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>It's just a car cover, unlike actual camo that is taped on or stuck on with some fasteners, the cover isn't really camo in my opinion. As for trespassing, going onto private property is trespassing in my book, slightly removing the cloth cover isn't. Once physical camo, ie plastic or tape starts coming off, this is where the trouble starts.<p>It was volvo's fault to not cover up the interior with some cloth or whatever, that's my view on this.</TD></TR></TABLE><p><br>Hah, well the legal world would disagree with your view. Can't touch the cars at all. The car cover is covering the entire car. Sounds like camouflage to me. This is why many manufacturers use a locking car cover.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by CD-BP at 6:08 PM 9/9/2005</i>

Smart22186
09-09-2005, 04:16 PM
surley thats what CCS is all about taking a few risks (not stupid ones i would like to add) to get the best picturs of cars, we should be greatful and respect these people for what they do, i remember a post once where some1 had gotten into the BMW factory parking area at night and snapped loadz of photos of new bmw's at the time (5-series estate, 1 series, 3 series, 6 series and i think maybe even a 1 series 3door) the person that done that was very brave and most respected in my books, surley its the manufacturers fault for not keeping its products safe and secure, lets put it like this if u had a million pounds would u hide it under a sheet where some 1 can get it, or lock it away safe? (by the way if any1 has those pics of the BMW's have a look cause im very sure that their was a 3 door on it, it was white with a big piece of plastic covering the rear window looked like a vent.) <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0">

AM2K
09-09-2005, 04:36 PM
unless its private property, then it doesnt reallt matter where the snappers go. but then again, there is a certain 'unofficial boundary' that cnnot be crossed, even though interior shots are getting more and more common...

nismo
09-09-2005, 09:06 PM
I like what i see so far... The interior is modern Volvo <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> I just hope they make the exterior "flashier" than before.

AM2
09-22-2005, 04:25 PM
Arent the previous "S80" spy photos in this thread the same as the one in the S60 thread? <br>What's it really?<p>S60<br><A HREF="http://www.autoscoops.be/volvoS604_w.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoscoops.be/volvoS604_w.jpg</A><p>S80<br><A HREF="http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/il/features/future/07.volvo.s80/07.volvo.s80.f34.500.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332...0.jpg</A>

SV
09-22-2005, 05:07 PM
looks like the same car to me. judging from the size and proportion, it looks more like an S60-sized car...but you never know.

Chris_Doane
09-22-2005, 06:29 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>AM2</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Arent the previous "S80" spy photos in this thread the same as the one in the S60 thread? <br>What's it really?<p>S60<br><A HREF="http://www.autoscoops.be/volvoS604_w.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoscoops.be/volvoS604_w.jpg</A><p>S80<br><A HREF="http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/il/features/future/07.volvo.s80/07.volvo.s80.f34.500.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332...0.jpg</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yes those are both S80 prototypes.

Andre
09-22-2005, 11:29 PM
We only have pics of the S80. Look at the profile and you'll see that this car lacks the Coupe-esque lines the S60 will bear when it's shown.<p>S60 pics are probably about a year out

protocatcher
09-23-2005, 12:31 AM
Andre is right , there are S80 pics .<br>Still no pics out of the S60.

toni
09-23-2005, 04:12 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>protocatcher</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Andre is right , there are S80 pics .<br>Still no pics out of the S60.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I agree, it would be absolutely too early now to see S60 spy pics, because S80 is coming first (~one year before S60).

Ascariss
09-23-2005, 06:38 AM
We can all blame autocar for that, it appears they were the first to say it's also a S60 according to the S60 thread.

Omar
09-23-2005, 09:52 AM
Posted by Charger in the S60 thread:<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Charger</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><A HREF="http://www.autoscoops.be/volvoS601_w.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoscoops.be/volvoS601_w.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.autoscoops.be/volvoS602_w.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoscoops.be/volvoS602_w.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.autoscoops.be/volvoS603_w.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoscoops.be/volvoS603_w.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.autoscoops.be/volvoS604_w.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoscoops.be/volvoS604_w.jpg</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Judging from these pics, it appears Huckfeldt has got the rear end spot on again. <p>Those are spy pics of the S80, aren't they? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1zhelp.gif" BORDER="0">

autodanse
09-27-2005, 08:17 AM
From an interview on Autoweek with Volvo's new chief designer, Steve Mattin:<p><i><b>When will we see your imprint on Volvo design?</b><p>I am making design decisions right now.<p>The S80 (coming in 2007) is not a radical change.<p>I would like to take a bigger step and position the brand more strongly to show its image and premiumness more.</i><p><br>not very good news for a wild new s80<p><A HREF="http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=103246" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=103246</A><br>source: autoweek.com

bolita
09-27-2005, 08:20 AM
I wouldn't expect anything radical for the S80 but definitively a sleeker design and from the spy photos - which I believe are from the S80 and not S60 - thats what we'll see.<p>In any case I hope that the next S60 gets a much more aggressive look

toni
10-17-2005, 04:13 AM
See below:<p><A HREF="http://www.expressen.se/content/1/c6/45/38/39/5547022b.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.expressen.se/conten...b.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.expressen.se/content/1/c6/45/38/45/af594149.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.expressen.se/conten...9.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.expressen.se/content/1/c6/45/38/49/c612d928.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.expressen.se/conten...8.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.expressen.se/content/1/c6/45/38/48/c18c9d86.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.expressen.se/conten...6.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.expressen.se/content/1/c6/45/38/50/d5cc0e60.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.expressen.se/conten...0.jpg</A>

[AP]adiweb
10-17-2005, 04:57 AM
Ouch, bad mistake for volvo, we know like 90% of the car's styling due to those five pics. I got to say that i prefer the current car by far, especially the interior.

joesuv86
10-17-2005, 05:46 AM
interior looks old....front end nice, but lights look a bit small......actually looks like it could just be a design prototype or somthing....the small wheels, the tinted glass....who knows.

Omar
10-17-2005, 07:05 AM
Ooh, nice photos! Whoever took them, welldone <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I'm a bit surprised Volvo didn't go for something a bit more exciting, seeing as the C30 is looking good. <p>But who knows, maybe the best bit about it will be the way that it drives <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

Lukynix
10-17-2005, 07:18 AM
Really nice this VOLVO.

bolita
10-17-2005, 07:24 AM
The pictures are not all of the same car...if you notice the profile shot versus the rear shot the wheels are different. Looks much better with the larger wheels on the rear shot.<p>I really will leave my final impression out until I see some better pics but except for those small wheels I like what I see so far... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

autodanse
10-17-2005, 08:03 AM
oh no! that profile shot looks completely japanese. like a late 90's accord!!<p>fantastic front, though

GoLeafsGO
10-17-2005, 08:05 AM
i definitely see the accord in the side profile. <p>i also think the side shot reminds of the peugeot 607...not a good thing to remind people of in the european market.

Nodnarb
10-17-2005, 08:05 AM
Looks like a nice evolution. About what should be expected out of Volvo, given their designs are typically rather conservative and restrained. I say well done.

AM2
10-17-2005, 08:14 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>autodanse</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh no! that profile shot looks completely japanese. like a late 90's accord!! </TD></TR></TABLE><p><A HREF="http://www.expressen.se/content/1/c6/45/38/39/5547022b.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.expressen.se/conten...b.jpg</A><br>It follows the same basic look used in the S60.<br><IMG SRC="http://www.carpages.co.uk/volvo/volvo_images/volvo_s60_t5_se_side_04_01_04.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>1992 Volvo ECC(Environmental Concept Car)<br><IMG SRC="http://images.google.com.ph/url?q=http://www.autotrend.com/pic/10033.jpg" BORDER="0">

autodanse
10-17-2005, 08:18 AM
what is behind the grille in the third picture? i've noticed something similar on the new s class as well..<p><A HREF="http://www.expressen.se/content/1/c6/45/38/49/c612d928.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.expressen.se/conten...8.jpg</A><br>

Smart22186
10-17-2005, 10:18 AM
It would seem looking at the pictures that this is the real car, over here in the UK 90% of all police cars are Volvos. and I reckon if u look at these pics (in the background) u can see V70 police cars all over the place.<br>In my opinion this was Volvos way of selling the car to the forces this way they can choose how many they want and get first hands on them.<br>This pic must have been taken off a police officers mobile phone and sent on. <br>The police force is prob Volvos biggest customers over here and so it would only seem sensible that they get first views. <br>Dont look like an official Volvo location. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"><br>

Ascariss
10-17-2005, 10:44 AM
huh, nothing really wrong with the design really, but then there isn't anything amazing about it either. Sales wise it won't really do much to touch, E, 5er and A6 sales. The front is nice, headlights do look kinda thin. the rear is sporty, very much so as the C70. The small rims are a no no and should be avoided volvo at all costs. <p>Interior wise, no surprise here, just an enlarged and expanded S40. <p>As for where this was taken, I would tend to agree with Smart22186 on this, there are quite a few police versions in the background of those shots. But then again who knows. <p>It seems to have a V8 badge with AWD on the back of it, and the box in the grill could be automatic cruise control, the one that controls itself, whatever it is called.<p>I also see the 607 design in the glasshouse as people have mentioned. Hmm it looks pretty long in that side shot too. hmm.

toni
10-17-2005, 10:47 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>autodanse</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what is behind the grille in the third picture? i've noticed something similar on the new s class as well..<p><A HREF="http://www.expressen.se/content/1/c6/45/38/49/c612d928.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.expressen.se/conten...8.jpg</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p>I also noticed that. I guess it's radar box, at least Volvo earlier annunced that next S80 will get the active cruise control.

nismo
10-17-2005, 11:00 AM
Looks alright but i bet it will look better in full pictures instead of these snippets etc... Wheels need to be 18s, those look like 16s. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

against the wall
10-17-2005, 12:21 PM
side profile reminds me of a phaeton.

salebg
10-17-2005, 12:38 PM
<A HREF="http://www.expressen.se/content/1/c6/45/38/39/5547022b.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.expressen.se/conten...b.jpg</A>

SHEPO
10-17-2005, 12:59 PM
i don't know what to say...its really bland, but do i like it? i don't know! i will have to decide this once official pictures are out; these are too small and you can't see the entire car so it's hard to judge at this point. i bet i will like it though <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

galv
10-17-2005, 01:07 PM
im not sayin i dont like the car, but i kinda liked it better with the camo still on.

Omar
10-17-2005, 03:33 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Smart22186</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It would seem looking at the pictures that this is the real car, over here in the UK 90% of all police cars are Volvos. and I reckon if u look at these pics (in the background) u can see V70 police cars all over the place.<br>In my opinion this was Volvos way of selling the car to the forces this way they can choose how many they want and get first hands on them.<br>This pic must have been taken off a police officers mobile phone and sent on. <br>The police force is prob Volvos biggest customers over here and so it would only seem sensible that they get first views. <br>Dont look like an official Volvo location. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"><br></TD></TR></TABLE><br>I'm not sure about your 90% figure, I think that's perhaps where you live because in London I don't see many Volvo's as police cars, just a few V70's I've seen... its mainly the Vauxhall Astra, Vectra, and occasionally an Omega in London. Then again I've occasionally seen 5-series police cars too.<p>That's a very interesting idea about it being shown to the police, though. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

SV
10-17-2005, 04:25 PM
hmmm....i'm going to reserve final judgement until this is officially unvieled with some bigger and better pictures, but i like what i'm seeing so far. interior looks nice and so does the front and rear; the side is giving me an acura RL vibe for some reason but again the pictures are too small to tell.

GoLeafsGO
10-17-2005, 06:45 PM
is that a V8 badge on the back in one of the pics?

Ascariss
10-17-2005, 07:08 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>GoLeafsGO</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is that a V8 badge on the back in one of the pics?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yes it is, I mentioned it a few posts above, it also has awd.

SHEPO
10-17-2005, 07:25 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>futuredriver</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im not sayin i dont like the car, but i kinda liked it better with the camo still on.</TD></TR></TABLE><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0">

tjts1
10-17-2005, 10:48 PM
Looks exactly like the S60 and old S80 from the side with Saabaru headlights tacked on. Why would anyone want the new S80 if it looks the same as the old one? Ford is screwing up Volvo. <br>FWD V8 should be a blast in the twisties <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/pukeface.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by tjts1 at 11:16 PM 10/17/2005</i>

AM2
10-17-2005, 11:22 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>tjts1</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks exactly like the S60 and old S80 from the side with Saabaru headlights tacked on. Why would anyone want the new S80 if it looks the same as the old one? Ford is screwing up Volvo. </TD></TR></TABLE><br>??? Just wait for better photos...<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>tjts1</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">FWD V8 should be a blast in the twisties <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/pukeface.gif" BORDER="0"> <br></TD></TR></TABLE><br>I think the V8 is AWD...

AXLE
10-18-2005, 01:05 AM
Oooooooooooooo nice. Rear end is much more luxurious than before, I love the look of the taillights, same with the C70. V8 AWD would be a friggin blast to drive. Finally a car that would be able to compete with the luxo Germans head on. These pics, imo, are not representitive enough of the actual design but I would bet it would look even better in real life, can't wait to see more!!!

CosworthKid
10-18-2005, 03:47 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>tjts1</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks exactly like the S60 and old S80 from the side with Saabaru headlights tacked on. Why would anyone want the new S80 if it looks the same as the old one? Ford is screwing up Volvo.<br><i>Modified by tjts1 at 11:16 PM 10/17/2005</i></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Man keep saying that Ford is screwing up Volvo and i'll give u the number of a really good therapist <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>Point in case? S40: such an ugly car,right??, XC90:OH MY GOD,what is that monstrocity???V50: YUCK, new C70: that looks sh** right? or how about the new Golf rival?Now that is very plain and ****y right? Gimme a break mate, Volvo under Ford is perfect.<p>ps:to avoid misunderstandings I LOVE VOLVO

Hornbag
10-18-2005, 04:57 AM
All hail to the new king, no not the car, Cosworthkid!!! LOL!!!<p>Im with you man! On the car though the only part i dont like is the side profile of the front headlights, very dull. The rest is 100%! The inside is so nice. I tell you what, if that rear end was a chicks, it would be Beyonce Knowles! Its so wow!!!

CosworthKid
10-18-2005, 07:16 AM
I completely agree with you Hornbag,i'm not very fond of the front lights either. And it is everyone's right to say they like it or not mate, but lashing out on Ford after saving Volvo just cause the S80 might not be to everyone's liking is just not right. Anyway, hope this drives as well as a 5-series even though that is a hard feat for anybody <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/images/smilies/sponge.gif" BORDER="0">

Dahlis
10-18-2005, 09:56 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CosworthKid</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I completely agree with you Hornbag,i'm not very fond of the front lights either. And it is everyone's right to say they like it or not mate, but lashing out on Ford after saving Volvo just cause the S80 might not be to everyone's liking is just not right. Anyway, hope this drives as well as a 5-series even though that is a hard feat for anybody <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/images/smilies/sponge.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p><br>Ford did not save Volvo PV, they were fine before. And if i was a Volvo boss i would regret selling it.

tjts1
10-18-2005, 10:48 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CosworthKid</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> And it is everyone's right to say they like it or not mate, but lashing out on Ford after saving Volvo just cause the S80 might not be to everyone's liking is just not right. </TD></TR></TABLE><br><IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0"> you think Ford saved Volvo? Volvo is still an independent company. They sold off the car division to focus on construction equipment, trucks and boat engines. <br><A HREF="http://www.volvo.com/group/global/en-gb" TARGET="_blank">http://www.volvo.com/group/global/en-gb</A><br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CosworthKid</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Point in case? S40: such an ugly car,right??, XC90:OH MY GOD,what is that monstrocity???</TD></TR></TABLE><br>XC90 was designed before the Ford take over. Look it up. You would have to be an idiot to buy an S40 or V50 with all the competition in that price range. Not to mention that you can buy a 1 year old S60 or V70 for the exact same money. Have you seen Volvo depreciation lately? An 01 S80 can be had for 10k. If you think S40 is so great then why did Ford have to discontinue the S60 non turbo in this county? <br><A HREF="http://autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=102335" TARGET="_blank">http://autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=102335</A> <br>Anyway, no point and arguing with strangers about it. Volvo cars will go the way of Saab within a couple of years.

JBlair
10-18-2005, 10:54 AM
<br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> XC90 was designed before the Ford take over. Look it up. You would have to be an idiot to buy an S40 or V50 with all the competition in that price range. Not to mention that you can buy a 1 year old S60 or V70 for the exact same money. Have you seen Volvo depreciation lately? An 01 S80 can be had for 10k. If you think S40 is so great then why did Ford have to discontinue the S60 non turbo in this county? <br><A HREF="http://autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=102335" TARGET="_blank">http://autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=102335</A> <br>Anyway, no point and arguing with strangers about it. Volvo cars will go the way of Saab within a couple of years. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>That is completely innacurate. Most every Volvo currently on sale was designed or significantly modified before going on sale after Ford took over, XC90 included. If it weren't for Ford (or any other company that may have bought the company), Volvo would not exist today.

bolita
10-18-2005, 11:48 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p><br> If it weren't for Ford (or any other company that may have bought the company), Volvo would not exist today.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I completely agree with this comment. Ford has been a true asset to Volvo Cars and despite the sharing I really feel that Volvo has kept its identity and has actually become more appealing to a broader range of customers thus the volume growth.<p>I am certain that within the next 3 years Volvo Cars will hit their target of 600,000 unit/year <p>

tjts1
10-18-2005, 11:51 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That is completely innacurate. Most every Volvo currently on sale was designed or significantly modified before going on sale after Ford took over, XC90 included. If it weren't for Ford (or any other company that may have bought the company), Volvo would not exist today.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>That is such BS. Back that up with some evidence. I showed you my sources. <br>You think you know Volvos? <br><A HREF="http://www.carspyshots.net/zeropost?cmd=fshow&id=380" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carspyshots.net/zer...d=380</A><br>See you at SEMA.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by tjts1 at 12:03 PM 10/18/2005</i>

JBlair
10-18-2005, 03:36 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>tjts1</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>That is such BS. Back that up with some evidence. I showed you my sources. <br>You think you know Volvos? <br><A HREF="http://www.carspyshots.net/zeropost?cmd=fshow&id=380" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carspyshots.net/zer...d=380</A><br>See you at SEMA.<p><br><i>Modified by tjts1 at 12:03 PM 10/18/2005</i></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Oh, excuse me, every current Volvo, save for the <I>S80 and V70</I> were designed under Ford.

tjts1
10-18-2005, 04:01 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Oh, excuse me, every current Volvo, save for the <I>S80 and V70</I> were designed under Ford.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>You forgot XC90 and S60.

JBlair
10-18-2005, 04:09 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>tjts1</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>You forgot XC90 and S60.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>XC90 was developed under Ford and the S60 project was brought back to life (it was shelved to allow development of the S80), only after Ford got involved.

CosworthKid
10-18-2005, 04:19 PM
tjts 1 give me one pre-Ford Volvo who was as capable as today's cars? U actually believe that Ford engineering and investments did not help Volvo to become what it is today??You know how many millions of dollars in marketing Ford spent in overseas markets like the Australian in order to convince ppl that Volvo is contemporary and premium and not doesnt just make boring-but-safe family estates for midle class families? You got a problem with the S40 cause its expencive??Remember how the OTHER Volvo small cars used to be like?I will remind you they were crap. The S40 benefits from the best chassis in its segment,used on the Focus, and it is not expencive at all mate. For similar money you get a BMW 1-series which is smaller or an A-class in my country. You are saying that Volvo shouldnt be selling at those prices? Then maybe the new Golf rival from Volvo should sell at Skoda Octavia prices then huh?Unless anyone has something substantial to add i think we should get back to topic which is what we think of the S80

sashok
10-18-2005, 04:44 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CosworthKid</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">tjts 1 give me one pre-Ford Volvo who was as capable as today's cars? U actually believe that Ford engineering and investments did not help Volvo to become what it is today??You know how many millions of dollars in marketing Ford spent in overseas markets like the Australian in order to convince ppl that Volvo is contemporary and premium and not doesnt just make boring-but-safe family estates for midle class families? You got a problem with the S40 cause its expencive??Remember how the OTHER Volvo small cars used to be like?I will remind you they were crap. The S40 benefits from the best chassis in its segment,used on the Focus, and it is not expencive at all mate. For similar money you get a BMW 1-series which is smaller or an A-class in my country. You are saying that Volvo shouldnt be selling at those prices? Then maybe the new Golf rival from Volvo should sell at Skoda Octavia prices then huh?Unless anyone has something substantial to add i think we should get back to topic which is what we think of the S80</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Coudln't be put any better. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

knicks125
10-18-2005, 05:05 PM
Alright...ease up everyone...let's go back discussing the S80, shall we?

tjts1
10-18-2005, 05:14 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CosworthKid</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">tjts 1 give me one pre-Ford Volvo who was as capable as today's cars? U actually believe that Ford engineering and investments did not help Volvo to become what it is today??You know how many millions of dollars in marketing Ford spent in overseas markets like the Australian in order to convince ppl that Volvo is contemporary and premium and not doesnt just make boring-but-safe family estates for midle class families? You got a problem with the S40 cause its expencive??Remember how the OTHER Volvo small cars used to be like?I will remind you they were crap. The S40 benefits from the best chassis in its segment,used on the Focus, and it is not expencive at all mate. For similar money you get a BMW 1-series which is smaller or an A-class in my country. You are saying that Volvo shouldnt be selling at those prices? Then maybe the new Golf rival from Volvo should sell at Skoda Octavia prices then huh?Unless anyone has something substantial to add i think we should get back to topic which is what we think of the S80</TD></TR></TABLE><br>In this country for the $24k for a base S40 you can get a 200hp Passat, a loaded 200hp Acura TSX or 227hp WRX. The S40 is a waste of time. <br>In the 80s Volvo sold more cars in this country than BMW and Mercedes combined. Today both of those brands sell more than twice as many car than Volvo. Thank you Ford. <p>Volvo went wrong with the first FWD car they sold in this country. They have never been able to recover.

StevenZoz
10-18-2005, 05:22 PM
ok... bmw and MB weren't as competitive X amount of years ago... and since then... they have undergone many changes... i.e. MB to Chrysler

Ascariss
10-18-2005, 05:32 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>stevenzoz</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok... bmw and MB weren't as competitive X amount of years ago... and since then... they have undergone many changes... i.e. MB to Chrysler</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Uhm no, MB bought chrysler, well hostile takeover, but let's call it a merger, in no ways did MB change to chrysler.<p>Let's get back to the S80 and not MB or BMW, or what volvo's are better. If you want to discuss that go do that in the discussions area.

tjts1
10-18-2005, 05:35 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Ascariss</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Uhm no, MB bought chrysler, well hostile takeover, but let's call it a merger, in no ways did MB change to chrysler.<p>Let's get back to the S80 and not MB or BMW, or what volvo's are better. If you want to discuss that go do that in the discussions area.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>I'm not saying any of those brands are better or worse. I'm just trying to show how Volvo let itself fall behind. Ford management is just more of the same. <p>Back to the S80, there was some news a while ago about a new inline 6 that was shorter than the current inline 5 for the new S80. Any more info on that front? Volvo's old inline 6 what butter smooth with great power even in non turbo form.

Hornbag
10-19-2005, 12:53 AM
There is a thing called too much imput, this would be the GM/Saab issue. Saab is getting reskinned models that just dont cut the chop. The Ford/Volvo senaro IMHO, is one where the border between these companys hasnt been crossed. Volvo has still maintained a faily good image, better now even. <p>So there will be a V8 hey? How about the basic engine, diesels?

AXLE
10-19-2005, 05:30 AM
The base engine I am presuming will be the newly developed inline 6, diesels would be great though.

Tidal
10-19-2005, 12:49 PM
I think that, at least for Europe, base engines will still be the current 5-cil family. As for diesels, their 2.4 is a very good engine, and they could use Ford/PSA's 2.7 v6.<p>It looks good. I do see some Peugeot 607 on the profile, but overall it looks nice. And great looking interior. <br>

AM2
10-19-2005, 02:29 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hornbag</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>So there will be a V8 hey? How about the basic engine, diesels?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>A few months ago there were some reports that Volvo is making a new 3.2 liter inline-6 and 3.0 liter turbocharged inline-6 engines for the new S80...<br>I think this hasn't been confirmed yet. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

Hornbag
10-20-2005, 04:43 AM
Ford i have herd are doing another diesel engine with Peugeot, so mabey if its the right size (im not sure what size it is) it could be used in the Volvo?

hyundai kid
11-04-2005, 03:13 PM
Judging by those uncovered S80 pics. a few pages back, this is a very Swedish looking car on the inside. Looks like furniture designed in Sweden :D<p>The outside, however, isn't great... the front is really really nice and restrained yet aggressive, but the rest doesn't really accentuate the Volvo look that they were pressing a few years ago... they really numbed it down

Roadster44
11-05-2005, 12:04 AM
I see a bit of Peugeot 607 in there. Not bad though.

Hornbag
11-05-2005, 01:14 AM
I need to see this car, i cant hold on any longer!!!!!!!!! Arrrrrr. I just have to see the inside in official pictures, in the spy pictures it looks amazing!

DSC-OFF
11-19-2005, 11:33 PM
<A HREF="http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y296/ef0ne/Jesse/bfa25d64.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i7.photobucket.com/albu...4.jpg</A><p>Source: CAR

bolita
11-21-2005, 01:29 PM
Link not working for me....

SHEPO
11-21-2005, 02:00 PM
yea same...let's see it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

against the wall
11-21-2005, 04:45 PM
link works for me. its nothing special. its just the same proto that we have seen before. no less camo or anything.

Banditbohlin
12-20-2005, 02:24 AM
Hepp,<p>New pictures of Volvo S80.<p><A HREF="http://img.aftonbladet.se/bil/0512/20/NYHETER-20s24-volvo-744_368.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img.aftonbladet.se/bil/...8.jpg</A><p>//Kalle <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/2cool.gif" BORDER="0">

toni
12-20-2005, 02:42 AM
And more info related to that picture:<p><A HREF="http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/bil/story/0,2789,749758,00.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/....html</A>

DoMiNo
12-20-2005, 04:03 AM
Chop, or the real deal? I hardly think they'd be parading that thing around sans camo, but if so, I'm a little disappointed with the styling; doesn't seem like Volvo's in any hurry to move forward. Looks S60-inspired and frankly, <I>that's</I> due for a redesign...

GoLeafsGO
12-20-2005, 06:55 AM
S60 meets L-Finesse?

bolita
12-20-2005, 08:45 AM
based on the other camo-less pictures I've seen it seems like its the real deal. I still can't get a full grip on the front end styling to pass final judgement but still am not liking what I see...

Naga Royal Guard
12-20-2005, 09:27 AM
that thing almosts looks like the old ( and wonderful ) BMW 528i Sport

Ascariss
12-20-2005, 01:17 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>DoMiNo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Chop, or the real deal? I hardly think they'd be parading that thing around sans camo, but if so, I'm a little disappointed with the styling; doesn't seem like Volvo's in any hurry to move forward. Looks S60-inspired and frankly, <I>that's</I> due for a redesign...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It's real, photo shoot in south africa.

against the wall
12-20-2005, 01:36 PM
looks like mix between s60 and sonata.

AXLE
12-20-2005, 02:22 PM
That looks great but I need to see more of the front, and why is that photo so small? Surely they could have included a larger one. Overall I like where this is going.

Fabia SDI Elegance
12-20-2005, 02:59 PM
Source: Edmunds.com<p><br><A HREF="http://www.edmunds.com/media/il/features/future/07.volvo.s80/07.volvo.340.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.edmunds.com/media/i...0.jpg</A><p> <A HREF="http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/images/volvo_s80_spy.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.jalopnik.com/cars/i...y.jpg</A> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Ascariss at 2:27 PM 12/20/2005</i>

against the wall
12-20-2005, 04:27 PM
in the newest pics of the silver s80, does anyone else think that the front bumper looks a little fake?

Ascariss
12-20-2005, 05:01 PM
How can you tell that from a small picture like that? besides, it's a pre production car doing a commerical so that is how it will look like.

against the wall
12-20-2005, 07:49 PM
i guess the bumper just looks kinda thick and claddy. maybe the color made the difference. i just thought for a sec the black one looked different.

Hornbag
12-21-2005, 04:09 AM
I'll save full judgement till we get high quality pictures because quite frankly, that picture looks ugly...I'm sure the rear light is higher though?

-Zouz-
12-21-2005, 09:14 AM
Here is a better picture :<p><A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/gallery/10500_OYRDICVABWXBN.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co...N.jpg</A><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><b>Spied: Volvo S80</b><p>Here's the first shot of the new Volvo S80, completely undisguised as it underwent testing in South Africa. The S80 is due for its first public showing at the Geneva Motor Show in March 2006. Borne by a stretched version of Ford's C1 platform, the S80 will offer a choice of front- or all-wheel drive. A range of diesel and gas engines are expected, including a 163-hp four-cylinder, a 209-hp five-cylinder, a 272-hp six-cylinder and a 299-hp V-8 version. The new Volvo will also get a new safety system called Co-Driver, which includes radar sensors and audible collision warnings linked to the Brake Assist. If a collision is imminent, it will apply extra braking pressure, tighten the seatbelts for optimum restraint, and prepare the airbags for deployment. -Hans G. Lehmann/ Hidden Image<p>Source : <A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/Auto_News/Daily_Edition/Daily_Edition_Dec_21_2005.S173.A9776.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co....html</A><br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>I don't think the S80 will be based on a stretched version of Ford's C1 platform but on the P2 platform.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by -Zouz- at 5:22 PM 12/21/2005</i>

nyeteg
12-21-2005, 11:06 AM
<A HREF="http://imgfrm.index.hu/imgfrm/2/3/7/6/BIG_0001082376.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://imgfrm.index.hu/imgfrm/...6.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://imgfrm.index.hu/imgfrm/2/3/7/7/BIG_0001082377.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://imgfrm.index.hu/imgfrm/...7.jpg</A> <p><A HREF="http://imgfrm.index.hu/imgfrm/2/3/7/8/BIG_0001082378.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://imgfrm.index.hu/imgfrm/...8.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://imgfrm.index.hu/imgfrm/2/3/7/9/BIG_0001082379.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://imgfrm.index.hu/imgfrm/...9.jpg</A><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/angry.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>

DoMiNo
12-21-2005, 11:18 AM
Is that a V8 or V6 badge?

CosworthKid
12-21-2005, 01:20 PM
The front headlamps from the side almost remind me of old Chrysler designs for some reason. I am in favour of evolutionary design when it comes to the S80 but i think new buyers might find it to look more like a mid-life facelift rather than a new model. I just hope it does improve significantly over the current one in order to create an interest.

bolita
12-21-2005, 02:01 PM
Same pictures already posted in page 7 .... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0">

carjunkie
12-21-2005, 02:51 PM
This looks more like a rejected refresh for the S60 than a redesign of the S80

bolita
12-21-2005, 04:00 PM
Larger version of latest picture <p><A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/gallery/10500_OYRDICVABWXBN.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co...N.jpg</A><p>Better detail but I still want to see a good 3/4 front shot to pass final judgement....

-Zouz-
12-21-2005, 04:31 PM
Same picture already posted in page 11 .... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0">

AXLE
12-21-2005, 07:49 PM
<p>BAHAHA a stretched version of the C1 platform???? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I don't think so.

zebby
01-22-2006, 10:07 PM
Is this it?<p><IMG SRC="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v34/zebby/Volvo.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p><IMG SRC="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v34/zebby/Volvo1.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p> <br>Source: AutoWeek.nl<p>

LEXUS FAN!
01-22-2006, 10:24 PM
looks like it<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bolita</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Larger version of latest picture <p><A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/gallery/10500_OYRDICVABWXBN.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co...N.jpg</A><p>Better detail but I still want to see a good 3/4 front shot to pass final judgement....</TD></TR></TABLE><p>is that a chop?

carmaniac
01-22-2006, 10:30 PM
the first picture looks like a chop, but the second one looks like the real deal

tectonics
01-22-2006, 11:04 PM
there is no third window on the c pillar in the spy pic. seems like they are chops.

toni
01-22-2006, 11:30 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>tectonics</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">there is no third window on the c pillar in the spy pic. seems like they are chops.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>yes, it seems that autoweek pictures are chops (even look like very real ones), because of that third window. Original spyshot by thecarconnection indicates that official one has no third window.

-Zouz-
01-23-2006, 02:15 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>zebby</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is this it?<p><A HREF="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v34/zebby/Volvo.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/alb...o.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v34/zebby/Volvo1.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img.photobucket.com/alb...1.jpg</A><p> <br>Source: AutoWeek.nl</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Yes, these photoshops are based on these pictures:<p> <IMG SRC="http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/1203/p200317922ck.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/9153/p200526937dl.jpg" BORDER="0">

Hornbag
01-23-2006, 03:57 AM
Yup, it's official. They <B>ARE</B> fake. <p>In my opinion though, the biggest give away is the height of the rear light. The new C70 has a much shorter heighted tail light (if that makes sence). I hope the real car captures a little more in the way of style...

phlarzian
01-24-2006, 02:20 AM
I believe that this is the S80. It looks big enough ...<p>It's amazing what can be done with cladding to disguise a vehicle.<p>I saw another shot of the same vehicle, but with less cladding - you could see from the visible window line and haunches that it is a Volvo.

carbon
01-24-2006, 03:48 PM
one more version<br><IMG SRC="http://www.autointernationaal.nl/img/fotogroot/S80A2.jpg" BORDER="0">

sashok
01-24-2006, 07:03 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>carbon</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">one more version<br><IMG SRC="http://www.autointernationaal.nl/img/fotogroot/S80A2.jpg" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE><p><br>I hope it's that long... because the current S80 is in between competition to the 5er/S-class/A6/GS300, etc... and the TL and RL... I don't know; just want the S80 to find its own space in the car market <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

toni
01-24-2006, 11:05 PM
and original source:<br><A HREF="http://www.autointernationaal.nl/artikel.php?id=782&n=0" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autointernationaal....2&n=0</A><p>but I don't understand a word from the text.... :(

toni
01-25-2006, 03:42 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>carbon</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">one more version<br><IMG SRC="http://www.autointernationaal.nl/img/fotogroot/S80A2.jpg" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE><p>I have to admit that I'm amazed how well they can these days create photorealistic pictures...<p>Look at the tripes on the road....<p><IMG SRC="http://1.im.cz/n/photo/01/38/08javsm-original.jpg" BORDER="0">

Hornbag
01-25-2006, 05:52 AM
That kinda reminds me of a Passat is the rear door somehow? Still, it is very nice, and much better that those other fakes! I still think the headlights look very bland though...

aphophis
01-27-2006, 12:40 PM
first oficial pictures:<p><IMG SRC="http://forum.softpedia.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=85499" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://forum.softpedia.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=85500" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://forum.softpedia.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=85501" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://forum.softpedia.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=85502" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://forum.softpedia.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=85504" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://forum.softpedia.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=85503" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://forum.softpedia.com/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=85506" BORDER="0"><br>

knicks125
01-27-2006, 12:52 PM
Nothing came off the press from Volvo yet. Not doubting you or carscoop, maybe they broke embargo?<p>Looks good!!

131172
01-27-2006, 12:54 PM
No bad, improvement in style while not losing the Volvo heritage. But the interior looks borrowed from Nissan. Current Volvo interior are mostly aluminium and looks gray.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by 131172 at 4:14 AM 1/28/2006</i>

knihc2008
01-27-2006, 01:06 PM
kind of awkward looking. is the front overhand actually LONGER than the rear one? the front lights are too blob-y and nondistinct for my tastes. love the rear lights though.

131172
01-27-2006, 01:17 PM
<B>knihc2008</B>, can you tell me what does overhand mean?

bolita
01-27-2006, 02:24 PM
I think he ment over "hang" which is the distance from the axle to to tip (be it front or rear)<p>In any case look much better than other spy pictures I have been seeing. I still think that the front end should be a bit more aggressive but I am sure that this will not only be a hit for Volvo fans but will win over some people from BMW, MB & Audi...

leftlanenews
01-27-2006, 02:27 PM
27 January 2006<br>STRICTLY EMBARGOED UNTIL 31 JANUARY 2006<br>.....

LEXUS FAN!
01-27-2006, 02:41 PM
where's that date?

Paul2006
01-27-2006, 02:58 PM
Another example of <I>Volvo</I> playing it safe. Despite that, it is a nice classy looking car. They remind me of <I>Audi</I> with their simple elegant styling. Anybody else see a resemblence of <I>Audi</I> in the front?<p>I love that floating fascia they use. Wonderful!

leftlanenews
01-27-2006, 03:10 PM
on the press release

knicks125
01-27-2006, 03:40 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>leftlanenews</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">27 January 2006<br>STRICTLY EMBARGOED UNTIL 31 JANUARY 2006<br>.....</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yeah, that's what I thought.<p>Thanks for the info <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

SHEPO
01-27-2006, 04:11 PM
am i the only one who thinks its ABSOLUTELY GORGEOUS!!!!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0">

Naga Royal Guard
01-27-2006, 05:09 PM
this car looks timeless and legendary, unmistakably scandanavian and damn proud of it yet respectably modest<p>i love it

Comrade
01-27-2006, 05:48 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knihc2008</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">kind of awkward looking. is the front overhand actually LONGER than the rear one? the front lights are too blob-y and nondistinct for my tastes. love the rear lights though.</TD></TR></TABLE>I'm was surprised when I saw that because every recent Volvo looks well balanced, especially the S60. IMO, Volvo's are the best proportioned FWD cars out there. Everything about this car's exterior is perfection, except the overhang and it bothers the crap out of me <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

AXLE
01-27-2006, 06:02 PM
It looks nice but I was really expecting something more extreme. Looks too conservative, but hey its gotta appeal to all of those old folks out there. The overhang reminds me of the Peugeot 407 except the 407 is a cab-forward design and the Volvo S80 is not. <p> <IMG SRC="http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/3497/407side8ps.jpg" BORDER="0">

Gian86
01-27-2006, 06:33 PM
After i saw the new S80, it looks much better for Volvo. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

CosworthKid
01-27-2006, 08:33 PM
This looks much better than i expected, after seen the first scoops and mildly disguised shots of it a few weeks ago.I love the shape, its in line with the rest of the line-up but different enough to set it apart. Only thing i still dont like is the side view of the front and the choice of colour inside. Even though the front headlamps remind me of a cross between an Audi A4 an S40/V50, from the side it looks a bit too American for some reason. Dont get me wrong, i am not saying that is bad, just that it feels kinda strange. Even the choice of interior leather and colour seems too American-limo like. I know that Volvo aims for strong sales in the US but i hope its up to European tastes as well, where it should try to compete with 5er/E-Class/S-Type/A6 etc. Still, i like it a lot and i bet it will look even better in the metal. I dont agree that it looks conservative or that Volvo should be more bold. Most buyers are of the type where this will prove like the perfect shape: its modern, pretty yet slightly understated. Great overall, just hope the S60 doesnt end up looking like its twin like the previous gens of S80/60's.

toni
01-28-2006, 01:49 AM
<I>Volvo has released the first details of its all new, second generation S80 executive saloon:<p><br> * All new Volvo S80 saloon will make its world debut at the Geneva motor show.<br> * 2nd generation of Volvos flagship executive saloon.<br> * Safety: Collision Warning and Brake Support with Active Cruise Control.<br> * World first: Personal Car Communicator (PCC).<br> * Excellent driving dynamics  benchmarked against class leading premium rivals.<br> * New Volvo 315bhp V8 with AWD and 3.2 six-cylinder petrol engines, plus latest D5 (185bhp) turbo diesel.<br> * Scandinavian luxury broadens choice in executive car segment with class-leading interior, 'floating' centre stack, premium materials and colour schemes.<br> * Prices and specifications to be announced in the spring.<br> * Expected in UK showrooms in June/July 2006.<p>And more in:<br><A HREF="http://www.media.volvocars.co.uk/user_site/user_page1.cfm?item_id=897" TARGET="_blank">http://www.media.volvocars.co....d=897</A> </I>

Gromit
01-28-2006, 05:14 AM
It's a fairly conservative development of the current styling, but nevertheless it's a very handsome car.

UK
01-28-2006, 02:58 PM
Toni,<p>That press release is embargoed until 31st January 2006. The information should not be posted on this site until then.<p>Moderators, could you deal with please.

Ascariss
01-28-2006, 03:07 PM
I would remove it, but I've already seen plenty of sites with the info and even larger pictures.<p>I myself have access to them, but they are not posted. Swedespeed has it posted and they are a larger site than us.<p>It is volvo's own fault for sticking it on their site before the embargo, rogue sites such as the carscoop blog usually don't care for embargos and post pictures anyways. I've checked the international volvo press site, and none of this info is on there for obvious reasons.

bolita
01-28-2006, 03:07 PM
It is all over the Interney now... I guess more than one media organization broke the embargo anyway....