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Santeno
01-27-2005, 03:24 PM
<B>Yes I know that We've all seen this car a million times over the past few years, and that the project has seen more than it's share of ups and downs (especially Downs). Well it seems like VW is finally doing some serious testing of the car. here is a recent article and cold weather testing pictures of the veyron from 4-Car Magazine:</B><p><IMG SRC="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/B/bugatti/03-large/Bugatti-Veyron-001.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Bugatti Veyron <p>If these pictures are any indication, it looks like the world's most ambitious supercar project is back on the rails. The VW Group's 252mph, 1001bhp W16-engined supercar, the Bugatti Veyron, has been caught out ice-testing by our spies ahead of a promised production date of September 2005. First shown at the Geneva Motorshow in 2002, the Veyron was mooted for production as long ago as 2003. There are, though, other subtle signs that VW is turning up the heat on the Veyron project - it is currently the star of the Vienna Autoshow, running until January 23rd. That's the first time the Veyron has appeared in Austria, a country where those with the means to purchase such a car are presumably numerous. Indeed, with an estimated pricetag of $1,000,000, this is definitely one for the super-rich. So is Volkswagen going to make a killing? Not likely, because even if it manages to shift all of the rumoured 300 production run, that's unlikely to put much of a dent in the Veyron's massive development costs.</TD></TR></TABLE><p><IMG SRC="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/B/bugatti/03-large/Bugatti-Veyron-002.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/B/bugatti/03-large/Bugatti-Veyron-003.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/B/bugatti/03-large/Bugatti-Veyron-004.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/B/bugatti/03-large/Bugatti-Veyron-005.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>Source: 4-Car

1966_GTO_
01-27-2005, 03:38 PM
This is my dream car. I have been following it since the introduction of the concept and am impatiently waiting for it to finally come out. Good stuff.

disap.ed
01-27-2005, 04:08 PM
I made some photos of the car on the Vienna Autoshow, here they are:<br><IMG SRC="http://members.a1.net/common/images/Bugatti1.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://members.a1.net/common/images/Bugatti2.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://members.a1.net/common/images/Bugatti3.jpg" BORDER="0">

Reppu
01-28-2005, 12:05 AM
Those rims look very very small on the pics at the top

Top Secret
01-28-2005, 03:20 AM
This car really frustrates me - I mean, seriously, you would've thought that Bugatti would've sorted out all the kinks in the Veyron after like 2 years. God's sakes, I'm already sick of this car - a stupid way for VW to show who is the best; looks like they shot themselves in the foot with this dunger. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0">

Pedigreepaul
01-28-2005, 03:37 AM
Looks like the Rally version to me with those kind of lights..

mzoltarp
01-28-2005, 07:00 AM
The fact that it's taking so long to iron out the engineering glitches means that by the time it comes to market the styling will be years old. I think this is a case of VW having created a styling mock up and making wild claims about its performance only to find that the numbers weren't that easy to achieve. Besides, why create a Bugatti supercar when you own Lamborghini that has real heritage? The Veyron, like the Phaeton, is a huge VW stumble.

PBH
01-28-2005, 09:05 AM
I kno the grille is traditional and all, but any feelings that it doesnt at all fit with the rest of the car, apart from that in my opinion it is a very beautiful car, possibly a mistake from VW, but as everyone knows we learn from mistakes, and so probably not an entirely useless exercise :D

Roadster44
01-28-2005, 02:59 PM
But its still a car that everybody knows about. And how can you say Bugatti has no heritage? As for styling, it I think its timeless. It looks good now and will remain that way 20 years from now.

mzoltarp
01-29-2005, 07:23 AM
It's easy to say that Bugatti has no heritage. The real Bugatti company died 50 years ago and it was dormant until a wealthy italian--I forget his name--decided to resurrect the name for a supercar. It failed and then VW did the exact same thing. There is no direct line from the old Bugattis to the current Bugattis in name only. Ferrari, Lamborghini, and even Maserati have direct lineage.

Roadster44
01-29-2005, 10:06 AM
Why? Only because their styling is evolutionary?<p>If this will be a good product, which I suspect it will be then VW can build off of that success and produce other Bugatti's...perhaps an ultra luxury salloon.

Seller Automotive
01-29-2005, 03:26 PM
Bugatti(VW) just needs to release this thing... break some records, make some fans, build up the Bugatti Nameplate... THEN release the rumored $250k 'baby' Bugatti.. so this nameplate can start making some money on its own.<p>A $250k 'baby' Bugatti will be such a HOT seller.. the Bugatti name already has SO MANY older fans.. car collectors who own 20's,30's, and 40's Bugatti's... a $1,000,000 US car is a little much to ask anyone, no matter how big of fans they are of Bugatti (even the rich people dont always have $1 million to blow on a car).. But a $250k Bugatti... the waiting list will be 10 feet long.<p>Release the Veyron.. and start working on the 'baby' Bugatti ASAP. If its out before 2010 I'll be happy.

Superfresa
01-29-2005, 07:57 PM
By the time it's out it's going to be needing a redesign...

Cozz
01-29-2005, 08:15 PM
It almost looks as if the wiper arms are the same as the Lambos.

Designo
01-29-2005, 08:29 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Cozz</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It almost looks as if the wiper arms are the same as the Lambos.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>are those the "aero" wipers that all the European makers use (MB, Audi, VW, Porsche...)? They don't really "wipe" that well...<p><br>$1,000,000 USD for ONE car? That's a lot... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0">

syclone
01-30-2005, 12:01 PM
Yes it is a lot. See it in real life and you understand. I didn't get it until I saw the prototype at a Bently showroom in Berlin, and I was floored. This car is, simply put, unlike anything else in the world.

Ascariss
01-30-2005, 10:16 PM
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