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AU-297
01-14-2005, 04:52 PM
There was a post on this on the old site, but I can't find it here on the new one. This is now confirmed for production... so it's neither a rumor or concept.<p><I>Dr. Pischetsrieder has confirmed with VWvortex that Volkswagen does indeed plan to produce a vehicle very similar to the two-seater Concept R roadster first introduced at the Frankfurt Auto Show in 2003.<p>At a press dinner held during the North American International Auto Show, Dr. Pischetsrieder confirmed that Volkswagen will build a similar vehicle that will follow the concept's mid-engine rear-wheel drive layout. He mentioned that the goal is to produce a vehicle that is actually slightly smaller than the Concept R (which was built on a Golf V platform), make it as light as possible and add a folding soft-top convertible roof. The goal is to get the weight as close to 2,500 lbs. as possible, yet still retain all the safety features and structural rigidity normally associated with VW products. Lastly and most importantly, it will be coming to North America.<p>When it came to the discussion of powerplants for the new car, he only smiled and mentioned they are working on something new. Recent reports in the German press mention Volkswagen working on a low-displacement 4-cylinder gasoline engine that is both supercharged and turbocharged and has direct injection (FSI). On the surface, the complexities and costs associated with an engine like this sound too far-fetched for actual production. However, German publication Auto Motor und Sport claims that prototypes have been seen around Wolfsburg and that development of the car and engine are moving along at a good clip.<p>When asked about the inspiration for such a vehicle in the Volkswagen lineup, Dr. Pischetsrieder told us that the Volkswagen needs to inject some fun and soul back into the brand. The GTI and forthcoming GLI models both show that VW still remembers how to produce decent drivers' cars in affordable packages. The Concept R takes that a step further with a lightweight, rear-wheel-drive roadster that will be relatively affordable. He mentioned his love of roadsters and that he favors a rear-wheel-drive layout on certain cars as that is the "purest" form of a true sports car. Pressed on a price, he only offered that they are targeting a Mazda Miata price point. When we joked about a hardtop Coupe version he only smiled and said, "Anything is possible, let's see how we do with the roadster first".<p>In other discussions we asked about the likelihood of an R32/R36 version of the Jetta V and Dr. Pischetsrieder told us that he would like to see something like this produced. He mentioned that Volkswagen of America managed to sell 5,000 Golf R32 models with little to no advertising, and if the Golf was successful in this market, a Jetta version would likely do even better.</I><p>Source: <A HREF="http://www.vwvortex.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.vwvortex.com</A><p><IMG SRC="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v107/gom211/DSCN0363.jpg" BORDER="0">

AU-297
01-14-2005, 09:46 PM
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Top Secret
01-14-2005, 09:49 PM
Cool - and with the Golf platform underneath it, it should provide to be a credible competitor to the Mazda MX-5/Miata.

iamalittlepepper
01-14-2005, 11:24 PM
If it is rear wheel drive it won't be based on the golf platform.. if it is front wheel drive like the golf it won't be able to beat the Miata.. which is rear wheel drive.<p>Notice the quote" lightweight, rear-wheel-drive roadster that will be relatively affordable" So it won't be a Golf based one.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Top Secret</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Cool - and with the Golf platform underneath it, it should provide to be a credible competitor to the Mazda MX-5/Miata.</TD></TR></TABLE>

AU-297
01-15-2005, 01:13 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>iamalittlepepper</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If it is rear wheel drive it won't be based on the golf platform.. if it is front wheel drive like the golf it won't be able to beat the Miata.. which is rear wheel drive.<p>Notice the quote" lightweight, rear-wheel-drive roadster that will be relatively affordable" So it won't be a Golf based one.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Yup... originally it was said that production was going to be based off a modified Polo platform. The original concept "Concept R" was based off of the Golf V (PQ36). Technically it is possible to use the Golf V platform... but I highly doubt it will be.

JBlair
01-15-2005, 01:54 AM
Yeah, because they would just rearrange the modules of the platform to a RWD configuration. (oversimplifying it by loads there, so don't complain about it). It probably would be cheaper to engineer a new one though, but it'll be interesting to see how it plays out.

spwolf
01-15-2005, 04:59 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah, because they would just rearrange the modules of the platform to a RWD configuration. (oversimplifying it by loads there, so don't complain about it). It probably would be cheaper to engineer a new one though, but it'll be interesting to see how it plays out.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>If they have to build an new platform, it will cost them way, way too much. Only way possible to build this car would be to use already existing platform. They might have made new Golf V platform good enough to do that...

JBlair
01-15-2005, 09:52 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>spwolf</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If they have to build an new platform, it will cost them way, way too much. Only way possible to build this car would be to use already existing platform. They might have made new Golf V platform good enough to do that...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>VW seems adept at using existing components in completely different ways, so I wouldn't doubt a 'new' RWD platform made of Golf V components.

KaRaceR
01-16-2005, 10:17 AM
i really like where VW is going they are becomeing an almighty power in the car idustrey they are putting more quality, thaught and best of all more sassion into their cars,