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RikfromBelgium
01-05-2005, 10:40 AM
Didn't see another topic, so I'll start one<p>After no news for some time, finally some more pictures and info<br><IMG SRC="http://www.autocar.co.uk/Car/BMW/3-series/5155115221.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.autocar.co.uk/Car/BMW/3-series/5155115348.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>BMW is wasting no time in developing an estate version of its next 3-series. Captured by Autocars spies undergoing testing on public roads, Munichs sporty new load hauler should make its public debut at the Frankfurt Motor Show in September before going on sale in the UK shortly before the end of the year.<p>Historically, BMW has waited two years after the launch of the 3-series saloon before introducing a new estate, but strong sales of the Touring in recent years have prompted it to change the timing of the new models launch to within six months of the saloon.<p>The new car is slightly larger than its booted sibling, which is due to appear at Marchs Geneva Motor Show. Length is up by almost 50mm on the current Touring at 4520mm, and its 77mm wider at 2013mm. Riding on a wheelbase thats increased by 35mm over its predecessors at 2760mm, it promises more room for all occupants, as well as improved luggage capacity. The 465-litre boot is said to have grown by 30 litres over the current model, and extends to almost 1500 litres when the split-fold rear seats are down.<p>Power will come from inline four- and six-cylinder petrol and diesel engines, starting with a 148bhp 2.0-litre in the 320i and climbing to a 255bhp 3.0-litre powerplant in the 330i.<p>Along with standard rear-wheel-drive models, BMW is also planning to equip selected 3-series Tourings with its xDrive 4x4 system, also recently confirmed for the 5-series. <p>Autocar.co.uk

AM2K
01-05-2005, 10:55 AM
Has anyone got access to the older spy pics of the 3er estate which was caught undisguised?<p>it was a while back, if i remember correctly, the car was snapped going from the factory onto a trailer...

Omar
01-05-2005, 12:19 PM
<A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/gallery/spy-shots/bmw3-seriestouring-2582/bmw3-seriestouring-2582.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/g....html</A>

Ascariss
01-12-2005, 05:50 PM
larger picsfrom autobild:<p><A HREF="http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/62341.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/62341.jpg</A><p>Only one for now.

Ascariss
01-20-2005, 10:50 PM
<IMG SRC="http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/62691.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>SOURCE: <A HREF="http://www.autobild.de" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autobild.de</A>

nstreet16
01-20-2005, 11:05 PM
those rims suck! makes the car look crappy.

Reppu
01-21-2005, 12:16 AM
A question of taste, get used to them because those are the 16" standard rims in the four cyl. versions. I like them.

scott26
01-21-2005, 03:51 PM
The 3er Touring will be unveiled in the summer (July) prior to it's debut at the Frankfurt motor show IAA in September where it will also be unveiled along with the 330d.

bmer
01-24-2005, 08:03 AM
a photoshop of the rear:<p> <IMG SRC="http://www.autotitre.com/forum/up/447ba70cf9.jpg" BORDER="0">

Pedigreepaul
01-24-2005, 08:17 AM
Quite old, but I think it's accurate

Hornbag
01-25-2005, 05:35 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Reppu</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A question of taste, get used to them because those are the 16" standard rims in the four cyl. versions. I like them.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I agree with nstreet, they are faul. They looks so danm small and the whole styling of them is all wrong, what eva happened to all those fantastic BMW wheel designs? I still see then on the new models, but those are just faul... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/pukeface.gif" BORDER="0"> But Reppu said it, just personal taste...<p>But the car is very nice overall (bloody crap wheels), i love the tail lights! It is a very well proportioned vehicle (wheels apart, which i HATE)

carrera4
02-04-2005, 07:51 AM
from <A HREF="http://www.motorline.cc" TARGET="_blank">http://www.motorline.cc</A><br><IMG SRC="http://box.motorline.cc/slideshow/image.asp?id=29957" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://box.motorline.cc/slideshow/image.asp?id=29958" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://box.motorline.cc/slideshow/image.asp?id=29959" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://box.motorline.cc/slideshow/image.asp?id=29960" BORDER="0">

Ascariss
02-04-2005, 10:15 AM
Funny, unlike the 5er touring, which had the front covered up while testing, this doesn't. And the 5er was out and on sale when the touring was testing, this isn't. lol Somehow the car looks like it has lost some sleakness to it, like the previous wagon, and compared to the E61. It is almost like the roofline it too tall or something,

PlatForm
02-06-2005, 01:56 AM
it will be launch later than 3series saloon. but if im not mistaken,the touring already on testing since 2Q 2004. the styling a bit better than the previous 3 touring but i really hope the rear end design would have more aggresive looks. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bowdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by PlatForm at 1:05 AM 2/6/2005</i>

ax5
02-14-2005, 03:11 AM
13 Feb<br>Test in Mellatracks - Ivola (Finland)<p><IMG SRC="http://www.bmwclub.ru/auto/gallery/data/500/3437bmw001_resize_resize-med.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.bmwclub.ru/auto/gallery/data/500/3437E-91-1_resize-med.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.bmwclub.ru/auto/gallery/data/500/3437E-91-2_resize-med.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.bmwclub.ru/auto/gallery/data/500/3437E-91-3_resize-med.jpg" BORDER="0">

Hornbag
02-14-2005, 04:16 AM
Looks like another BMW job well done!!!

Top Secret
02-14-2005, 04:52 AM
I still can't get used to the shape of the touring - the Audi A4 Avant runs laps around this thing.

Hornbag
02-14-2005, 04:59 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Top Secret</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I still can't get used to the shape of the touring - the Audi A4 Avant runs laps around this thing.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Have they shown pictures of the new A4 Avant yet? I cant remember, i think im going dumb in the head... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Top Secret
02-14-2005, 05:08 AM
Yes they have, but I can't be bothered posting the pics here. The facelifted version AND the old versions still look better than this.

Hornbag
02-14-2005, 05:14 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Top Secret</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes they have, but I can't be bothered posting the pics here. The facelifted version AND the old versions still look better than this.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Who do u think u r, some kinda superstar! LOL, j/k, sorry, i feel like being a nerd! I used to love the old Audi A4 Avant, i just saw some pictures of the new wagon, very nice tail lamps....

Top Secret
02-14-2005, 05:18 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hornbag_1</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Who do u think u r, some kinda superstar! </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Ah...what?! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0">

-Peter-
02-14-2005, 05:20 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ax5</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">13 Feb<br>Test in Mellatracks - Ivola (Finland)<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Actually its Ivalo <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> , but thats just a little mistake

bm88
02-14-2005, 08:16 AM
<b>Welcome to CarSpyShots!</b><p>Great shots their, you see a lot of camo's cars?

Rishy
02-14-2005, 08:55 AM
is that a hint of an M Z4 ?

Roadster44
02-14-2005, 11:50 AM
Z4 needs to be fixed here and there because right now Boxter and new SLK leave it in the dust in terms of handling, driving pleasure and ergonomics. So I'm guessing this might be a facelifted version.

V10
02-15-2005, 02:01 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Roadster44</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Z4 needs to be fixed here and there because right now Boxter and new SLK leave it in the dust in terms of handling, driving pleasure and ergonomics. So I'm guessing this might be a facelifted version.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>True for the boxster, but for the SLK???? In every single car magazine that i bought last year, the Z4 outperformed the SLK in terms of handling and driving pleasure (The SLK is a little like a dragster: very fast in a straight line, but once in corners it's crap). It's true for comfort items, but for handling I doubt. And for ergonomics... who cares when you drive a 'real' roadster... which the SLK certainly isn't!

RikfromBelgium
02-15-2005, 11:28 AM
<A HREF="http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=3951" TARGET="_blank">http://www.m5board.com/vbullet...=3951</A> <br>m5board

PHYMB
02-15-2005, 12:29 PM
fastdrive.org<p> <IMG SRC="http://www.fastdrive.org/e107_files/public/1_z4m.jpg" BORDER="0">

sc43018
02-15-2005, 04:30 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>V10</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">True for the boxster, but for the SLK???? In every single car magazine that i bought last year, the Z4 outperformed the SLK in terms of handling and driving pleasure (The SLK is a little like a dragster: very fast in a straight line, but once in corners it's crap). It's true for comfort items, but for handling I doubt. And for ergonomics... who cares when you drive a 'real' roadster... which the SLK certainly isn't!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Are you speaking of the new SLK? Because of what i have read the new SLK is all what the original was supposed to be and more....... a real roadster with handling, speed, acceleration (all that crap)

V10
02-16-2005, 02:10 AM
The big problem with Mercedes is that they are going for HP's without thinking at the handling of the car... as I said the SLK is very fast in a straight line (already with the 350, i'm even not speaking of the 55 AMG which goes like hell), but in curves it doesn't handle well, it is even worse for the 55 AMG due to its heavy 8-cilinder. It's the same for the E and SL. On other items the SLK performs very well: accelarion (of what I've heard, this becomes an important sales argument in the States), comfort, etc.<br>And when i'm thinking about the term "roadster", i'm certainly not thinking of a car with a shape of the boot that is larger than its engine compartment and that drives like a limo (sorry SLK), it is rather the opposite, but car-marketing people love to use this word... The Z4 comes closer to this definition, without being a real one.<br>Does anybody know if the Z4 M will get the current 6-cilinder or the new 8-cilinder? I guess they will put the 6-in line in it, once the M3 gets out of production they will continue to produce it for the Z4.

Top Secret
02-16-2005, 03:22 AM
Last time I heard it was going to the E90 M3's engine into the M-Z4.

skoochythatone
02-16-2005, 01:00 PM
There are two nice shots of the front and back of the Z4 M Roadster on <A HREF="http://ewanskelly.site.voila.fr" TARGET="_blank">http://ewanskelly.site.voila.fr</A>/ <p>Go to the 2nd gallery, then page 4/5.

Stint
03-15-2005, 03:21 PM
BTT - a new spy shot of the 6-cyl. model<p><IMG SRC="http://pichold.com/up/0503/E90_touring_01_Kopie.1110943043.1.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>

Roadster44
03-15-2005, 09:09 PM
Looking good! I always loved BMW's touring models. V10 to comment on your feedback...new SLK has been getting reviews that are way more favorable towards it than the Z4.

RikfromBelgium
03-16-2005, 09:12 AM
That's a nice estate, really nice <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0">

Ascariss
03-16-2005, 10:10 AM
Looks better than in some other spy pictures, thanks stint.

davidChief
03-16-2005, 10:27 AM
Not bad, but will definitely be the most conservatively styled BMW on sale.

JBlair
03-16-2005, 11:18 AM
I wonder if the taillamps are changing for the estate?

spwolf
03-16-2005, 11:29 AM
that last pic looks very promising...

Fcuke
03-28-2005, 07:39 AM
Good job by BMW. Gotta love this car. <p>I can't wait till the M-sport packages launches for the new 3-series. The touring will look great! :D

Fcuke
04-02-2005, 07:42 AM
<IMG SRC="http://www.e90style.com/images/stories/bmwe90touringc.jpe" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://www.e90style.com/images/stories/bmwe90touringb.jpe" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://www.e90style.com/images/stories/bmwe90touringa.jpe" BORDER="0"> <p>Looking like it's almost revealed. =)

knicks125
04-02-2005, 07:45 AM
is it just me or does this car look like it was involved in an accident <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0">

Fcuke
04-02-2005, 07:56 AM
Just you i think. Explain why u tihnk so?

r0b
04-02-2005, 09:12 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is it just me or does this car look like it was involved in an accident <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Probably from the side...I think it's just dirt.

knicks125
04-02-2005, 09:31 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Fcuke</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just you i think. Explain why u tihnk so?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>calm down...it was probably just the angle of the pic and the perception...<p>i was just kidding around... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Fcuke
04-02-2005, 09:52 AM
SO was I. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> hehe. just forgot to make some funney smilies <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/images/smilies/sponge.gif" BORDER="0">

Uberwagon
04-03-2005, 02:32 PM
Nice shots!<p>I can't wait for the M3 Touring! It'll be a little "out of character" for the M brand, I think, but for people who need a little more carrying capacity in their high-perf sedan, it'll be killer.<p>Does anyone know if the 3 Touring will be offered in 330 form? Currently, it's only available in 325 guise here in the states.

Fcuke
04-04-2005, 10:19 AM
Hmm.. arent you mixing this one with te 5-series?<p>Will the M3 come in Touring? Don't think so.<br>Are the 3er availlable as touring yet? Nope.<p>But, yes, i'm sure the 3er touring will come as a 330 touring <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

Uberwagon
04-04-2005, 02:59 PM
Nope, I'm referring to the 3-series - Insiders here & elsewhere have confirmed an M3 Touring is coming, in addition to the four-door sedan M3. Mercedes' C55 sedan & touring riled some feathers at BMW, apparently.<p>Here in the US, the Touring is only available as a 325i. Unlike other smaller markets, it's hugely expensive to introduce different models or versions here. As a result, we never got the 328/330 version of the previous touring. That's why I'm wondering if the 330 version will make it this time. <p>

RikfromBelgium
04-05-2005, 04:50 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Uberwagon</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nope, I'm referring to the 3-series - Insiders here & elsewhere have confirmed an M3 Touring is coming, in addition to the four-door sedan M3. Mercedes' C55 sedan & touring riled some feathers at BMW, apparently.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I'm guessing it's more the Audi Avants that made the big impressions<br>

Fcuke
04-05-2005, 07:00 AM
Okay, thanks for info. posts some pics if you have!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Isn't the 330 touring availlable in Europe? the E46 I mean?

Uberwagon
04-05-2005, 08:15 PM
Yeah, the 330 Touring is only available in Europe - you guys get all the good stuff! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>(Oppland is in Southern Norway, right? Beautiful country, man.)<p>I'm hoping that changes and the US will get the new 330 and M3 touring! I had a 325 E46 and even with manual it didn't have enough power. I'll be done with my current car (540 tour) in another two years and an M3 with room for the dog & weekend gear is sounding awfully nice!

scott26
04-06-2005, 02:37 PM
The top 3er Touring is in Ultramarine Blue .<br>The 3er Touring will have it's official press release in July prior to being shown in Frankfurt at the IAA in September.<br>Where the 330d will make it's debut .

propolt
04-18-2005, 12:04 PM
Here it is;<p><A HREF="http://www.e90post.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=704&stc=1" TARGET="_blank">http://www.e90post.com/forums/...stc=1</A><p>cheers!<br>

Charger
04-18-2005, 12:06 PM
Please continue discussion in the new cars section