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Charger
12-31-2004, 12:08 PM
Old thread<br><A HREF="http://carspyshots.proboards2.com/index.cgi?board=spy&action=display&num=1074576561" TARGET="_blank">http://carspyshots.proboards2....76561</A><p> <IMG SRC="http://img35.exs.cx/img35/5861/impala0pp.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br>source: Car and Driver<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Charger at 1:21 PM 12/31/2004</i>

Ascariss
12-31-2004, 12:25 PM
Some info for you guys:<p>3 engines, base is 3.5 v6 with 210hp, the mid level one is 240hp from the 3.9 v6, SS model gets 303 hp from the 5.3 V8 small block with cylinder deactivation to safe fuel.

NDG
12-31-2004, 12:39 PM
I was expecting the design to be a little more inspired than this.<br>

JBlair
12-31-2004, 12:55 PM
This is just a bad chop....nothing special and just one person's interpretation of what it may look like

Charger
12-31-2004, 12:57 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is just a bad chop....nothing special and just one person's interpretation of what it may look like</TD></TR></TABLE><br>no, this is real

VexedandGlorious
12-31-2004, 01:01 PM
thats horiible to me, what happened to the chrome,or silver strip going across the grille.

StuckInNYForever
12-31-2004, 01:05 PM
Looks a little bland to me also. They should probably go back to the Lumina name with this one!

Ghost_In_The_Machine
12-31-2004, 01:12 PM
Oh boy Thats gonna hurt. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Bryan Nesbitt was Head Of GM North America Design Body Frame Integral (Unibody ) When This was done.<p>Shed a tear For GM Europe , Shed a Tear For Saab,Opel and Vauxhall. Bryan Nesbitt is Now Head of Design GM Europe.<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/crying.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Ghost_In_The_Machine at 1:33 PM 12/31/2004</i>

The Water Is Poison
12-31-2004, 03:22 PM
It reminds me of the 90's cavalier coupes

M0L0TOV
12-31-2004, 03:36 PM
The look of the new Impala reminds me of the last generation Maxima. I think the design is interesting, but a few years too late. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>M0L0TOV

BenFarkas
12-31-2004, 03:37 PM
Looks like a large 4-door Suzuki Reno IMO <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1zhelp.gif" BORDER="0">

Dodger
12-31-2004, 03:54 PM
What about the 3.6 V6 that is in the Lacrosse? Is the Impala not good enough for it or what? Is the 3.9 V6 a pushrod? DOHC would be the way to go if they want it to compete against Japan--&gt; good luck with that one.

Ghost_In_The_Machine
12-31-2004, 04:27 PM
The 3900 is Brand new and will have Variable induction, cylinder deactivation, and make 240 hp. the Engine is as good as, if not better then the 3.6 HFV6.

Bluesman
12-31-2004, 04:49 PM
Not impressed, but again it's a Chevy.......It's not supposed to impress, just get groceries.

Krypton
12-31-2004, 05:22 PM
I thought they were getting better and better, but i guess i assumed wrong. GM is always going to be GM. But ill wait until i see the interior to completly dismiss it

NDG
12-31-2004, 05:37 PM
One thing I hope has improved are the rear taillights (not shown). To this day I still can't get used to the current generation's round lenses.

Player4
12-31-2004, 06:13 PM
OMG that is FUGLY!!! I cant find any other words to describe this car.....<p>Its sad....

kid
12-31-2004, 06:23 PM
if these are the engines..the only engine that sounds good is the v-8 but the only prob is is that its driving the wrong wheels..<p>

JBlair
12-31-2004, 10:22 PM
No OHV engine can ever be as sophisticated as a modern DOHC with VVT.

jro4566
01-01-2005, 12:24 AM
I really don't like the styling...not one bit.

Dodger
01-01-2005, 04:33 PM
I am not really to sure about the styling either. I must say though that I think it is better than the Malibu. I wish there were a few more pics so we could get a better idea. I guess we will know in a couple of days. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

Rugbyplaya91
01-01-2005, 04:35 PM
Agreed... It dosen't look as sporty as the current version, which kinda is a let down... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsad.gif" BORDER="0">

kevinb120
01-02-2005, 03:59 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Lincoln</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was expecting the design to be a little more inspired than this.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>One of these days GM is going to make a <I>new</I> car from <I>new</I> parts, but don't hold your breath. Avis sends in their specs, and GM delivers. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emdgust.gif" BORDER="0">

piokor
01-02-2005, 07:52 PM
Is the Impala RWD or FWD?

Dodger
01-02-2005, 07:58 PM
This one will be FWD I do believe. There is the rumor that the next gen after this new one will be RWD. So no time soon.

Top Secret
01-02-2005, 08:25 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>kevinb120</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>One of these days GM is going to make a <I>new</I> car from <I>new</I> parts, but don't hold your breath. Avis sends in their specs, and GM delivers. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emdgust.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Wait for the new RWD platform that Holden is currently developing; it's brand new, and hopefully it will be a cracker! It'll come in 2006/2007.

Tudor
01-02-2005, 11:39 PM
Would have been a good looking car 10 years ago.

Banker
01-03-2005, 07:22 AM
All things considered, I think this is a cleanly styled car. We all need to wait and see what the car looks like in some good pictures. Also, I am very curious about the interior. I'm sure this will be a strong seller for GM.

Reppu
01-03-2005, 07:36 AM
What's up with the american sedans design? Most of them are uninspired at best. Only 300C and some caddies are quite interesting.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Reppu at 5:17 PM 1/3/2005</i>

Innotech
01-03-2005, 08:01 AM
the problem with American design is htat hte companies cater to AMerican tastes, which largely put function and ergonomics over style and passion. In other words american cars are highly useable and versatile but boring and bland as hell by design.<br>

knicks125
01-03-2005, 03:46 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Innotech</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the problem with American design is htat hte companies cater to AMerican tastes, which largely put function and ergonomics over style and passion. In other words american cars are highly useable and versatile but boring and bland as hell by design.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Talk about hitting it right on the button. Thanks Innotech <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>As far as market share is concerned, American cars are shrinking as we speak. They need to look at other carmakers, espeically cars from German, from Japan, and the uprising of Korean cars, to find its own success. I hate to say it, market share for American-badged cars will continue to shrink and drop more and more if nothing is done in the near future <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0">

Banker
01-04-2005, 06:45 AM
I think it is too soon to call the death of the American sedan. I think the Impala is another good start and will continue its sales sucess. Here are some others that I predict will gain market momentum in the coming 12 months:<br>Pontiac G6<br>Buick Lacrosse<br>Buick Lucerne<br>Saturn Aura (or whatever it ends up being called)<br>Ford Fusion<br>Ford Five Hundred<br>Mecury Milan<br>Chrysler 300<br>Dodge Charger<p>These are all cars that are cleanly styled and offer a lot for the money.

knicks125
01-04-2005, 07:04 AM
No one ever said American sedans are dead, they are just going downstream as foreign baged cars are on the uprising - this has been the trend for years now, and it will continue to happen if American automakers don't get their act together, soon.<p>Also, I wouldn't finalize that list yet. Of the cars that are already on the market (that's on this list), the only one is having success is the 300. Please give some time, as many of this new cars are either brand new debuted, or coming soon. I would wait six months and then provide some report cards on those cars you have mentioned. BTW, I would also a few Caddy models on that list, just a thought <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Banker
01-04-2005, 09:21 AM
I agree time is needed which is why I stated that the momentum would be in the coming 12 months. I didn't include the Cadillac CTS and the STS since they are higher end vehicles and wouldn't fall into the mainstream buyers shopping list. But, you are correct they too are ones to watch in the coming months.

megadethmartyr
01-04-2005, 01:22 PM
The only american styled cars with design promise are coming from DCX. GM is a let down. Ford just doesn't seem to be trying (except for the Mustang, that's pretty sweet). It almost seems like they are just giving up and putting things out because they are supposed to. They aren't even trying.

ricerammer
01-04-2005, 05:13 PM
This is horrid. I'm glad Bryan Nesbitt left Chrylser. Wasn't he the mor.....er person in charge of the HHR? That things looks terrible, and now this? What is GM gonna do when Chevy falls into the hole?

bucket
01-04-2005, 05:19 PM
it looks like chevy took an altima and threw a goofy spoiler and old lumina nose on it

JBlair
01-04-2005, 10:41 PM
pics are posted in the new cars section

summersun54
01-05-2005, 05:28 AM
It looks fine. innofensive and quite smart I think. Very grown up but from the from there is a hell of a lot of camry in the mix.<br>It could do with more of a face..<br>

Naga Royal Guard
01-05-2005, 07:45 AM
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