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skoochythatone
12-21-2004, 03:08 AM
Couldnt find the thread, so I am starting a new one..<p>While it was already clear that the first Smart car to enter the US market would be a small SUV built in Brazil, these plans may change. I read in our local newspaper(I live near Boeblingen where Smarts headquarter is located) that ALL plans for another vehicle type(the SUV) are on hold for at least the next 3-4 months. The companies financial situation forces them to reevaluate the need for yet another model and will hold development of the ForMore for at least that period. While it is sure that Smart will at some point enter the US market, it now seems unclear with which model. Thought I share this information with you. Maybe we can put the pics from the old forum up here. Thanks admins!

geary
12-21-2004, 03:36 AM
Should be good for another Smart, maybe they'll base it on the ML? Wouldn't think so...<p>Anyway, is anyone else getting sick of Smart's new naming basis. I can't wait till they bring out the new Smart Foridiots.

Reppu
12-21-2004, 05:38 AM
For me all smarts are Forgettable

copic
12-21-2004, 06:54 AM
yeh, also don't like them too much

skoochythatone
12-21-2004, 07:57 AM
I like smarts, not only because I have relatives working there, but also for their overall strategy or being a different car company than other ones. I like their cars, even though they are overpriced. They are different, funny and cool. Of course they have their problems, but which car manufacturer doesnt? I would be really disappointed if the SUV would not come out.

bolita
12-21-2004, 08:02 AM
The SMART SUV is coming out of Brazil for sure. As far as what I have been reading, it will be built at the plant where the current Brazilian A Class is assembled. <p>What I am not sure is when. We should start to see pictures and more info perhaps in Geneva 2005?

originalRikfromBelgium
12-21-2004, 11:25 AM
news is the project has been shelved, or even cancelled. Losses are getting too big at Smart, and they first want to fix that

RikfromBelgium
12-21-2004, 11:32 AM
See, I was not aware of the working together with GCF, so I didn't know to use that password.<br>So consider this the first and only reply from originalRikfromBelgium.<p>originalRikfromBelgium is dead!! Long live RikfromBelgium!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Pedigreepaul
12-21-2004, 11:40 AM
I found it..<p>Ooh, btw.. I'M BACK <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>here are the pics from the old thread..<p><IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.nl/images/480/3648.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>source Autoweek.nl<p><IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.com/files/weekart/2004/0906/formore2_345.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.com/images/news/100733" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.autoweek.com/files/weekart/2004/0906/formore3_345.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>source: <A HREF="http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=100733" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=100733</A><p><IMG SRC="http://premium.uploadit.org/ascariss/formore01.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://premium.uploadit.org/ascariss/formore02.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>source: <A HREF="http://ewanskelly.site.voila.fr/" TARGET="_blank">http://ewanskelly.site.voila.fr/</A><p>These are the pics I've found in the deep caves from the old board...

geary
12-21-2004, 03:43 PM
That looks just like a raised ForFour

zwei Biere bitte
12-21-2004, 03:53 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>geary</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That looks just like a raised ForFour</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I think that's pretty much what it is <p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/embeer.gif" BORDER="0">

jro4566
12-21-2004, 04:56 PM
I'm really curious as to how our American public will perceive the Smart brand. Here in Texas, if it isn't BIG, it isn't safe...hehe.

Omar
01-28-2005, 01:11 PM
some new ones<br><IMG SRC="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/S/smart/formore/03-large/Smart-ForMore-03.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/S/smart/formore/03-large/Smart-ForMore-04.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/S/smart/formore/03-large/Smart-ForMore-05.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/S/smart/formore/03-large/Smart-ForMore-06.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/S/smart/formore/03-large/Smart-ForMore-07.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/S/smart/formore/03-large/Smart-ForMore-08.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>Source:4CAR

bolita
01-28-2005, 01:33 PM
I was certain that this project was cancelled... Could this be a simple Station Wagon or Touring version? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0">

Hornbag
01-28-2005, 07:39 PM
I cant belive Smart arnt making money. Well they are that overpriced you would think they would be? <p>But i still love Smarts, they look funky and are fashion statements, my sort of car!

Top Secret
01-28-2005, 07:44 PM
So you like small, two-seater cars which are impractical, overpriced and basically useless cars do ya? Eh, it's your opinion.<p>I thought this car had been canned? Well, expect this is be a flop as well. Yay for smart.

Hornbag
01-28-2005, 10:04 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Top Secret</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So you like small, two-seater cars which are impractical, overpriced and basically useless cars do ya? Eh, it's your opinionYay for smart.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well, if thats your opinion of the smart, then yes. They draw attention, and are huge statements? Just like me! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icon11.gif" BORDER="0"> But eh, its just my opinion...

Top Secret
01-28-2005, 10:33 PM
Sure, they do draw attention, but then again, so does a modified Hyundai Excel. Go figure.

CARSRTHEWORLD
01-29-2005, 04:18 AM
From AutoCar:<p><IMG SRC="http://www.autocar.co.uk//Car/Smart/Forfour/27155658120.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.autocar.co.uk//Car/Smart/Forfour/27155659240.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Article:<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Smarts new 4x4, the Formore, has been caught testing near Smarts HQ in Stuttgart, along with the next Fortwo city car. And while its certain that the Fortwo will go into production, the new 4x4s future is looking unsure.<p>Smart has put the introduction of its new flagship model on hold at the request of parent company Mercedes-Benz boss Eckhard Cordes. The new Toyota RAV4 rival was planned to go on sale in the UK late next year at around 17,000, but Smart is trying to reduce costs as part of a programme aimed at boosting profitability.<p>Despite being placed on hold, the engineering programme for the Formore is continuing, as proved by these exclusive photographs revealing the new junior off-roader. Mercedes C-class provides the basic platform, complete with 4matic 4x4 system. A future Mercedes version, probably called the X-class, is expected to share the chassis.<p>Although the car was originally touted as Smarts route into America  the company has issued sketches of the Formore and said it will be launched in 2006  the brand could enter the US market even without its top model. At the recent Detroit show, the entire model range of Fortwo, Coup, Roadster-Coup and Forfour were present in what bosses claimed was the brands biggest ever customer clinic. If response is good, launching the current range is a possibility.<p>That launch could coincide with the second-generation Fortwos arrival. The new car, pictured here for the first time testing under heavy disguise, sticks with the rear-engine layout of todays model.<p>Among the myriad changes incorporated on the second-generation model is new exterior styling, a reworked interior, a revised rear-wheel-drive platform, more powerful petrol and diesel engines (the latter is not available in the UK) and new suspension and steering, aimed at finally laying to rest the Fortwos questionable handling and lumpy ride.<p>Due to reach UK showrooms towards the end of 2006, the launch of the new two-seater is planned to coincide with Smarts bid to expose its cars to a wider cross section of buyers. As with todays first-generation model, the new Fortwo uses Smarts Tridion safety cell and removable composite panels but its design has been altered to give it a less upright profile without any significant increase in dimensions; length is said to remain within 100mm of todays 2500mm.<p>Underneath the new bodywork, the Fortwo rides on a longer wheelbase thats been extended slightly to help improve high-speed stability. Allied to this is a revised platform with widened front and rear tracks. The existing MacPherson strut front and de Dion rear suspension has also been redesigned and, with greater spring travel, a reduced centre of gravity achieved by lowering the seats and a more advanced electronic stability control system, insiders are confident that the new car will be a much more engaging drive than todays model.<p>Updated versions of Smarts turbocharged 698cc petrol and 799cc diesel three-cylinder Suprex engines will come with a new version of the much-criticised clutchless six-speed gearbox. Despite calls for a traditional manual, Smart claims packaging restrictions rule it out. <br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Source: AutoCar

skoochythatone
01-29-2005, 04:52 AM
Just because somebody snaps pictures doesnt mean it is still being continued to be developed. I know from somebody inside Smart that the project is on hold and that all the engineers working on it are diverted to other developments or laid off. Sad but true.<br>It will take a couple more months for Smart and DaimlerChrysler to figure out if this will be continued or not. The money that had already put into developing it is less than the amount it would take to finish it, bring out a model that satisfies the target market both design wise and quality wise and to advertise it.<p>I personally wouldve loved to see it. Lets keep our fingers crossed that DCX realizes that there is a potential for it.

Laguna
01-29-2005, 05:01 AM
Looks as if the car as PAS. Power Assisted Steering.

Laguna
01-29-2005, 07:15 AM
Article from Autoweek<br>Formore, Smart's new sport/UTILITY vehicle still two years away from its U.S. debut, has been caught in final production. The new Brazilian-built four-wheel drive is the first Smart to outgrow the companys mini-car ranks (including Fortwo, Forfour and Roadster/Coupe) and the first to make the leap Stateside when it arrives in 2006.<p> <br>Conceived to rival popular lifestyle SUVs like the Toyota RAV4, Honda CRV and Land Rover Freelander, the Formore forms part of a two-pronged junior four-wheel-drive attack mapped out by parent company DaimlerChrysler. Sister car to the upcoming Mercedes-Benz X-Class alongside which it will be built, the 181-inch-long five-seater picks up familiar Smart design cues like the exposed safety cell and clip-on plastic body panels.<p>Underpinning Formore is a modified version of the C-Class platform. It gets a sturdier suspension with greater ride height and permanent four-wheel drive via Mercedes-Benzs 4Matic system. Despite the off-roader tag, the new Smart will be tuned more for on-road handling than mastery of the rough stuff. Engines will include a 1.8-liter four-cylinder and a 3.0-liter V6. Transmission choices include a five-speed automatic and a six-speed manual.<p> <br>Formore will be produced at DaimlerChryslers Juiz de Fora factory in Brazil beginning late 2005.<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">