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Ascariss
12-16-2004, 11:37 PM
old thread:<br><A HREF="http://carspyshots.proboards2.com/index.cgi?board=spy&action=display&num=1080429979" TARGET="_blank">http://carspyshots.proboards2....29979</A><p><IMG SRC="http://server2.uploadit.org/files/epitherm-special1102955970.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>kido</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>new pics of TG from <A HREF="http://www.bobaedream.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bobaedream.com</A><br><A HREF="http://file1.bobaedream.co.kr/special/special1102074655.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://file1.bobaedream.co.kr/...5.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://file1.bobaedream.co.kr/special/special1102074658_2.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://file1.bobaedream.co.kr/...2.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://file1.bobaedream.co.kr/special/special1102074762.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://file1.bobaedream.co.kr/...2.jpg</A><p><IMG SRC="http://home.megapass.co.kr/~heedory2/special1102074655.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://home.megapass.co.kr/~heedory2/special1102074658_2.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://home.megapass.co.kr/~heedory2/special1102074762.jpg" BORDER="0"><br></TD></TR></TABLE><p><A HREF="http://server3.uploadit.org/files/epitherm-special2.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://server3.uploadit.org/fi...2.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://server3.uploadit.org/files/epitherm-special4.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://server3.uploadit.org/fi...4.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://server2.uploadit.org/files/epitherm-special6.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://server2.uploadit.org/fi...6.jpg</A>

knicks125
12-20-2004, 07:23 PM
In addition, our correspondent (Kido) from Korea has confirmed that the new TG (XG) will be powered by a 3.8L V6 engine, and puts out 270ps, which is over 266 hp (after conversion) <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

jro4566
12-20-2004, 07:26 PM
I'm glad it gets the 3.8L with about 265+HP, especially since the new Avalon has 270HP.

megadethmartyr
12-21-2004, 11:30 AM
I should mention that a friend that just returned from Korea to watch the TG crash testing that they were informed of 300hp TG's being tested. Now granted that's before they get slammed with emmisions standards, but I thought that might be of interest.

knicks125
12-21-2004, 11:55 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>megadethmartyr</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I should mention that a friend that just returned from Korea to watch the TG crash testing that they were informed of 300hp TG's being tested. Now granted that's before they get slammed with emmisions standards, but I thought that might be of interest.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>300hp? Now there is something Hyundai should push to appear in the auto market <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

jro4566
12-21-2004, 04:52 PM
300HP!?! Wow...if that's from a V8 I wouldn't be too impressed, but if from a V6 - now that's a different story. Only Acura has pulled that off so far.

megadethmartyr
12-21-2004, 05:33 PM
make definate note that the likelyhood of the U.S. version having that is pretty small. The 3.3L can be tuned to 270 (before U.S. emmisions), so the idea of tuning a 3.8L to 300 isn't that far off.

knicks125
12-29-2004, 09:08 PM
Looks good...keep them coming

taskbearer
12-30-2004, 03:52 AM
would love to see the interior of this car, hope its up to the avalon's. With the avalon rivaling engine and the pretty impressive sonata, it shows that Hyundai is now a formidable player in the american car market.<p>On the otherhand, all the developments are bland are predictable, I'm just waiting for a day hyundai would blow our minds off. Something like a sports car. Hyundai definitely has the ability, the problem is if they can make it individualistic enough.

megadethmartyr
12-30-2004, 06:22 AM
You haven't seen the HCD-8 have you. That's a not-so-subtle look at the the new Tib.

Andre
12-30-2004, 11:53 AM
I thought it was a hint at the Sonata Coupe<p>Or is the next Tib the Sonata Coupe? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/werd.gif" BORDER="0">

megadethmartyr
12-30-2004, 02:01 PM
The Sonata coupe and the Tib are seperate. From what I have heard, HCD-8 is a great look at the next gen Tib will look like. I thought it was the Sonata coupe at first too. I was told otherwise.

knicks125
12-30-2004, 06:26 PM
Alright...I've decided to move this into a new thread (in the concept cars section "Hyundai Tiburon Convertible". If you know something, please post your response there.<p>Thanks! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Here is the link: <A HREF="http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=12785" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=12785</A><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by knicks125 at 8:36 PM 12/30/2004</i>

conrad1
01-03-2005, 12:37 PM
Yes lets get back on track.<p>New photos from bobaedream:<p><A HREF="http://www.bobaedream.com/board/data/data_view.php?code=special&No=27922&page=1&select=&content" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bobaedream.com/boar...ntent</A>=<p><A HREF="http://www.bobaedream.com/board/data/data_view.php?code=special&No=27923&page=1&select=&content" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bobaedream.com/boar...ntent</A>=<p>There is an article of some kind written in Korean along with the picture in the first link. Can someone please translate it. Thanks.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Santeno at 2:49 PM 1/3/2005</i>

Santeno
01-03-2005, 01:18 PM
Autoscoops saved and hosted the image from the Bobaedream Link:<p><IMG SRC="http://img122.exs.cx/img122/9679/hyundaixg4ri.jpg" BORDER="0">

jro4566
01-03-2005, 02:10 PM
The Autoscoops picture reminds me of a mid-90s Chevrolet Impala SS and a current Holden Caprice.<p>I'm glad that it also has LED taillamps - a big plus for a semi-luxury car.

knicks125
01-03-2005, 02:18 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>conrad1</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes lets get back on track.<p>New photos from bobaedream:<p><A HREF="http://www.bobaedream.com/board/data/data_view.php?code=special&No=27922&page=1&select=&content" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bobaedream.com/boar...ntent</A>=<p><A HREF="http://www.bobaedream.com/board/data/data_view.php?code=special&No=27923&page=1&select=&content" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bobaedream.com/boar...ntent</A>=<p>There is an article of some kind written in Korean along with the picture in the first link. Can someone please translate it. Thanks.<p><br><i>Modified by Santeno at 2:49 PM 1/3/2005</i></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Only 2.7L & 3.3L V6 is listed in the 2nd pic, will there be a 3.8L offered, at least in the US market?

sexy
01-04-2005, 03:51 AM
I thought this was suppose to be the XG? Where did the TG come from?

oren
01-04-2005, 05:24 AM
that pic is nothing but an imaginary of one korean motor magazine<br>don't turst that pic.. :)<br>and 3.8 engine will be also offered both US and domestic <br>sexy, TG is code name of HMC<br>'F" means mid size sedan(NF,EF)<br>'G' represents somewhat luxary sedan(XG,TG..)

Banker
01-04-2005, 06:52 AM
This will end up being strong competition for the upper end Accords and Camry's.

knicks125
01-04-2005, 06:56 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Banker</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This will end up being strong competition for the upper end Accords and Camry's.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I believe Sonata's up with with Accords, Camrys.<p>TG will be in the class with cars such as Maximas and Avalons

megadethmartyr
01-04-2005, 07:59 AM
This car will be out of the Camry and Accord class. The 2.7L will not be in any XG(TG). Based on that alone I would discredit any info contained in that. Now, the chance of the 3.3L in it isn't that far off, remember the flexibilty of that engine (up to 270 hp). There is a chance it might show up in other markets. As of right now, the 3.8L will be in the U.S. market. The reason I don't see the 3.3L in the XG (TG) is being that to tune it as high as it would need to be to compete well with Avalons/Maximas/TL's, you would lose MPG's, whereas the 3.3L can easily be tuned that high without sacrificing the MPG's. Long story short, reguarding Hyundai, don't believe anything any magazine says unless it has come DIRECTLY from Hyundai or a Hyundai source. They are all just guessing, and from that report, guessing badly. I also got a kick out them trying to make a drawing look like it was moving. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0"> It must be real <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0">

megadethmartyr
01-04-2005, 12:27 PM
I can say for sure that last pic is totally wrong. Found out just a few minutes ago that there is only a slight difference in rear tail light between the XG and Sonata. The front ends are ver similar as well. The XG will have the turn signal indicators on the side mirrors. The C-pillar is different as well. Someone made a decent attempt with that pic, except for the back, that's not right at all.

Santeno
01-04-2005, 12:49 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>sexy</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I thought this was suppose to be the XG? Where did the TG come from?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Read the old posts. The vehicle series will be renamed TG.

Ultomato
01-14-2005, 05:34 PM
interior<br><IMG SRC="http://forums.autoweek.com/servlet/JiveServlet/download/31-11985-226963-2521/TG%20interior.jpg" BORDER="0">

VexedandGlorious
01-14-2005, 06:19 PM
Looks like hydai is going to uper class with this interior

Rugbyplaya91
01-14-2005, 09:12 PM
The front to me looks to much like the Sonata.. i mean hyundai's are getting nice but i wish they all looked different.. they look the same, for now<p>whoah the interior is a big step up that's a huge navi <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

DoMiNo
01-16-2005, 04:14 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I believe Sonata's up with with Accords, Camrys.<p>TG will be in the class with cars such as Maximas and Avalons</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Not sure that the TG - while vastly improved - will be on par with the Avalon. I didn't think it got any more boring than the new Avalon's exterior, but in Hyundai's tradition of watering down already-uninspired Japanese designs, they've managed to pull it off.<p>The interior is similarly disappointing. Quality may be improved but it won't compare to the Toyota's. Though it wouldn't take much to outdo the interior of the Nissan Maxima, if you ask me.

Andre
01-16-2005, 07:26 PM
I personally am the opposite from DoMiNo<p>I think the TG's interior is great, while I'm still iffy on the Avalon's interior. The Maxima's is great, though I'll admit ergonomics need a little bit of help (stereo and A/C controls need some getting used to, and I still managed to burn my ass when I turned on the climate control last time I was in there)

knicks125
01-17-2005, 05:40 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>DoMiNo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Not sure that the TG - while vastly improved - will be on par with the Avalon. I didn't think it got any more boring than the new Avalon's exterior, but in Hyundai's tradition of watering down already-uninspired Japanese designs, they've managed to pull it off.<p>The interior is similarly disappointing. Quality may be improved but it won't compare to the Toyota's. Though it wouldn't take much to outdo the interior of the Nissan Maxima, if you ask me. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I'd make a judgement until more better pics are released, otherwise it would not be fair to compare cars such as the TG, and, say the Avalon.<p>DoMiNo, I was referring to the TG purely on its class with Maximas and Avalons b/c that's how the EPA classifies them as, large sedans, I never said anything about which one's better than which, or who's on par with the other.<p>Actually, we can now add the new Sonata to the large sedan class (EPA estimated), if so chooses <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by knicks125 at 8:39 AM 1/17/2005</i>

knicks125
01-17-2005, 08:51 AM
Although Hyundai is not my favorite carmakers, I respect them for making great strides in improving its cars. Five years ago, I would never consider purchasing one, but now I am seriously thinking about adding another one into my existing collection. Overall, I believe all car companies are pretty good, some obvisouly better than others. There are many other car makers who are worsen off right now than Hyundai.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Santeno at 10:38 AM 1/18/2005</i>

hollc004
01-17-2005, 10:04 AM
I think Hyundai needs to bring their cars into the same standards as the competition. This looks reasonably ok and I thnk the 3.8 engine will really do this car some justice.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Santeno at 10:40 AM 1/18/2005</i>

DoMiNo
01-17-2005, 12:30 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>DoMiNo, I was referring to the TG purely on its class with Maximas and Avalons b/c that's how the EPA classifies them as, large sedans, I never said anything about which one's better than which, or who's on par with the other.<p>Actually, we can now add the new Sonata to the large sedan class (EPA estimated), if so chooses <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><br><i>Modified by knicks125 at 8:39 AM 1/17/2005</i></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Ah, point taken.

megadethmartyr
01-17-2005, 06:52 PM
I expect the XG(TG) to be right around the Avalon size. Just for reference, no name has officially been given, thus the XG(TG)

knicks125
01-18-2005, 07:21 PM
Hyundai will unveil its XG replacement late April at the 2005 Seoul Motor Show, and the car will begin selling early May.<p>New six-valve engine, with displacement of 2,700 cc & 3,300 cc, improves hp by 25% and consumes 5% less fuel.<p>I hope they have an even bigger engine for the US, since its going to be challenging some Lexus sedans. I have no idea why <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/sheep.gif" BORDER="0">

SantaFe
01-18-2005, 08:23 PM
Will the TG be sold in the USA in May?

knicks125
01-18-2005, 08:43 PM
I don't think it would come here that soon but I would estimate sometimes later this year. <p>Here is a crazy idea - there are two more big auto shows left in the US, Chicago and NY, since the Accent is going to be unveiled in Chicago (most likely), I wanna say Hyundai could be planning to unveil the XG replacement in NY, maybe...that would be nice...but then again, the Seoul Motor Show is way later in the month, in April, so if it's going to make its worldwide debut there first, it probably won't come to NYIAS this year. Someone else have any ideas?

megadethmartyr
01-18-2005, 09:11 PM
XG will be in the states during the summer as will the Accent.

knicks125
01-18-2005, 09:40 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>megadethmartyr</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">XG will be in the states during the summer as will the Accent.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>That's great news...will the XG replacement be unveiled at any of the US auto shows before it goes on sale?

conrad1
01-19-2005, 12:57 AM
Hi. <p>Hyundai Motor to Unveil Luxury Sedan in April to Target Lexus <p>SEOUL, Jan. 19 (Yonhap) -- Hyundai Motor Co., South Korea's biggest automaker, plans to debut a new sedan in April to challenge Lexus luxury sedans, one of the world's best-selling vehicles from Japanese auto giant Toyota Motor Corp., a company official said Wednesday. <p>The new car, code named "TG," which will first be introduced at an auto show in Ilsan, north of Seoul, is a successor to the luxury brand Grandeur XG, the official said. <p>Hyundai Motor plans to begin selling the new model in South Korea in early May, the official said <br>"We will introduce the new Grandeur XG at the 2005 Seoul Motor Show in April," the official said on condition of anonymity. <p>The event is scheduled to run from April 28 to May 8 at an exhibition center in Ilsan, according to the company. <p>The new vehicle's six-valve engine, manufactured by Hyundai Motor, improves horsepower by 25 percent and consumes 5 percent less fuel. <p>Hyundai Motor plans to sell two new Grandeur XG models, each offered with engine displacement of 2,700 cc and 3,300 cc. <p>Details of their price were still being set, the company said. <p>Hyundai Motor announced earlier it targets 36.2 trillion won (US$34.9 billion) in sales this year, up 12 percent from last year. <p>The company aims to become one of the world's top five automakers by 2010. <br>(END)<br>From: <A HREF="http://english.yna.co.kr/Engnews/20050119/320000000020050119094925E5.html" TARGET="_blank">http://english.yna.co.kr/Engne....html</A><p>This seems to be correct compared to details from a financial report for Mobis.<br>"Mobis Asan Plant (annual<br>capacity 300,000 units) is currently supplying the EF, NF (New Sonata), XG with the<br>chassis module and the NF with the cockpit and front-end module. Mobis will provide the<br>TG (Grandeur XG replace) with the three modules from April 2005."

knicks125
01-19-2005, 06:21 AM
just read another article this morning,<p>The XG replacement will have a few options as far as the powerplant is concerned...2.7L 4 cyl, 3.3L 6 cyl (both are confirmed), 3.6L 6 cyl & 3.8L V6 (both are rumored).<p>The 3.8L is capable of generating more than 270 horses

Banker
01-19-2005, 10:22 AM
If the world wide debut is to be done in April in Korea it won't make the NY show. However, don't forget that LA has moved their show to November, so that means that there is another chance of a US debut since LA will have two shows this year.

megadethmartyr
01-19-2005, 06:32 PM
As of now the XG won't have the 3.8L in Korea. Can't confirm anything as far the states go right now. I know the engine is ready, I just don't know where it'll show up.

Naga Royal Guard
01-19-2005, 06:34 PM
6 freaking valve engine; thats great news

Andre
01-19-2005, 11:58 PM
It's not an English publication, Naga's just being horribly sarcastic <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/werd.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>It's 6 Valve as in V6, or six cylinder

megadethmartyr
01-20-2005, 12:12 AM
hehe, yeah all of Hyundai's V6's are 24 valve. The 4.5 V8 is 32 valve, and the 1.6L and 2.0L are 16 valves. All DOHC

Naga Royal Guard
01-20-2005, 07:50 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Andre</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's not an English publication, Naga's just being horribly sarcastic <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/werd.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>It's 6 Valve as in V6, or six cylinder</TD></TR></TABLE><p>no really, i thaught it was like the audi 5 valve engines, but with 3 intake and 3 exhaust valves / cylinder <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0">

knicks125
01-20-2005, 10:56 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Andre</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Naga's just being horribly sarcastic <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/werd.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Isn't that the Naga we've always known <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Naga Royal Guard
01-20-2005, 11:40 AM
no really, i thaught this hyundai engine had 3 intake and 3 exhaust valves / cylinder<p>maybe mega can clarify this :-[

Naga Royal Guard
01-20-2005, 08:13 PM
i really think this engine has 6 valves / cylinder

conrad1
01-21-2005, 01:08 PM
Source: just-auto.com editorial team<br> <br>Hyundai Motor plans to challenge Toyotas premium Lexus brand in the United States with the redesigned Grandeur (XG) sedan which makes its world debut at the Geneva motor show in March.<p>The new model is scheduled to go on sale in the US  the largest export market for both Hyundai and Lexus  in July or August.<p>The outgoing XG350 sedan currently on sale in the US has a 3.5-litre V6 but the redesigned car will have a new 3.8-litre V6 that is 25% more powerful and more efficient, a Hyundai Motor spokesman in Seoul told just-auto.<p>The redesigned XG is part of Hyundai Motors plan to unveil seven new or significantly redesigned cars by 2006. The Korean company plans to be one of the worlds top five automakers by 2010.<p>We will launch the new model in the US market but dont plan, at this point, to sell it in Europe, Hyundai Motor spokesman Oles Gadacz said. Even if we [did decide to] sell it in Europe, the volume would be very small because we sell only 6,000 units of the Sonata there a year.<p>Gadacz said the redesigned XG will be shipped to the US from South Korea rather than being assembled alongside the Sonata in Hyundais brand-new Alabama plant, due to open in March.<p>Hyundai Motor launched the then-new XG350 in Europe and the UK about four years ago. Hyundai UK spokesman Rodney Kumar said that 752 cars were sold in the UK. "We sold about 250 a year in the just under three years we had it on sale and that was about the rate we expected," he added.<p> <br>

megadethmartyr
01-22-2005, 11:21 AM
If I am correct (and I believe I am) the next gen XG will be built on a drastically redone Sonata platform that will be shared with the new Santa Fe. Should be a more obvious size difference than the current versions.

Naga Royal Guard
01-22-2005, 07:14 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Naga Royal Guard</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i really think this engine has 6 valves / cylinder</TD></TR></TABLE><p><br>i agree with you <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0">

oren
01-23-2005, 03:44 AM
<IMG SRC="http://home.megapass.co.kr/~heedory2/86.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://home.megapass.co.kr/~heedory2/87.jpg" BORDER="0"><br> <IMG SRC="http://home.megapass.co.kr/~heedory2/88.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://home.megapass.co.kr/~heedory2/89.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br>from <A HREF="http://www.bobaedream.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bobaedream.com</A>

mzoltarp
01-23-2005, 06:40 AM
If the new XG has the power improvements and a slick body, I will definitely get one. I have an XG 300 and it is fantastically reliable, smooth, and fast enough for what it is. Hyundai is on a roll. I bought my XG when my Jeep died because it was cheap, had 0% financing, and a forever warranty. The car has been in the shop once for a total of 45 minutes. Awesome car. Toyota and Honda should fear Hyundai's emergence.

jro4566
01-23-2005, 05:30 PM
The headrests look very Acura TL-like...good job Hyundai! :D

knicks125
01-25-2005, 10:47 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mzoltarp</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If the new XG has the power improvements and a slick body.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I'd very much think so...and more.<p>As far as the power dept, I've heard it is pushing for 270, while still consuming less gas than the current xg <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>This is going to be a great flagship car for Hyundai <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

jberrer
01-25-2005, 04:43 PM
Is there maybe a domestic site where I can see these pictures? For some reason my computer won't display any foreign sites <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/crying.gif" BORDER="0">

megadethmartyr
01-25-2005, 08:32 PM
I can't think of any domestic sites that might have these pictures other than this one.

Banker
01-26-2005, 06:55 AM
This site seems to be the only place to find reliable spy shots in one place.

r0b
01-26-2005, 07:24 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Banker</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This site seems to be the only place to find reliable spy shots in one place.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>That's right!

oren
02-02-2005, 03:22 AM
from <A HREF="http://autospy.dreamwiz.com" TARGET="_blank">http://autospy.dreamwiz.com</A>/<p> <IMG SRC="http://home.megapass.co.kr/~heedory2/1.jpg" BORDER="0"><br> <IMG SRC="http://home.megapass.co.kr/~heedory2/2.jpg" BORDER="0"><br> <IMG SRC="http://home.megapass.co.kr/~heedory2/3.jpg" BORDER="0"><br> <IMG SRC="http://home.megapass.co.kr/~heedory2/4.jpg" BORDER="0"><br> <IMG SRC="http://home.megapass.co.kr/~heedory2/5.jpg" BORDER="0"><br> <IMG SRC="http://home.megapass.co.kr/~heedory2/6.jpg" BORDER="0"><br> <IMG SRC="http://home.megapass.co.kr/~heedory2/7.jpg" BORDER="0"><br> <IMG SRC="http://home.megapass.co.kr/~heedory2/8.jpg" BORDER="0">

mzoltarp
02-02-2005, 05:44 AM
I love the spy photo of the new XG prototype next to the current XG. They have made it just sufficiently larger that it will be a true competitor to the Toyota Avalon which is probably the benchmark. Yeah I know Lexus has been mentioned but in the North American market Hyundai's bogey is likely the Avalon. This will get interesting once it's available.

knicks125
02-02-2005, 06:05 AM
Love it...quick question, what are all those buttons on the back seat of the armrest?<p>It's turning out to be a mean driving machine <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

r0b
02-02-2005, 06:24 AM
Wow! The car is great! The buttons could for the rear seat heating or something like that...Looks like the car will have a lot of features!

DoMiNo
02-02-2005, 03:00 PM
Wow, no kidding... I had no idea they were gonna go that far with this thing. Pulling out all the stops! Any ideas on where this thing will fit, pricewise?

knicks125
02-02-2005, 03:05 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>DoMiNo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow, no kidding... I had no idea they were gonna go that far with this thing. Pulling out all the stops! Any ideas on where this thing will fit, pricewise?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>since Hyundai said this would compete with Lexus and Acura, I would imagine the price be competive but still less than competitors'.<p>My best guess would be mid to upper 20s for the base model and upper 20s to low 30s for the top trim, so somewhere around 25-30k

knicks125
02-02-2005, 03:08 PM
thanks oren for supplying us with countless number of pics <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>with that many buttons in the back armrest, some could be for seat warmers, maybe also reading lights, the other ones could be secret compartments <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Player4
02-02-2005, 03:48 PM
This car lokos very nice!!! I like that they are aiming for Acura and Lexus buyers and did u guys see the turn signals on the mirrors? (ala MB's)<p>and maybe power folding side mirrors?<br>

TheJoyof6
02-02-2005, 06:15 PM
The KDM XG was available with rear seat options like rear air, seat heaters, and such but they never made it to other markets. I doubt they will with the TG either. Just look at the sonata, its not even available with nav in the NA market so do you think rear seat heaters will make it to the NA TG? I wish they would offer such options to the major outside markets but i doubt it. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

Naga Royal Guard
02-02-2005, 06:19 PM
the goodies could make it in later, there is only so much they can do on a first model, goes for all companys too

TheJoyof6
02-02-2005, 06:47 PM
I agree, usually these types of options usually filter over after the first year on most models or come with them from the get-go but Hyundai-kia doesnt play that game, or hasnt in the past. Look at the Amanti, its been available in the NA market for 2 years... have any of these options which are available on the KDM cars filtered on over into the NA market cars? <p>

DoMiNo
02-02-2005, 07:05 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>TheJoyof6</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I agree, usually these types of options usually filter over after the first year on most models or come with them from the get-go but Hyundai-kia doesnt play that game, or hasnt in the past. Look at the Amanti, its been available in the NA market for 2 years... have any of these options which are available on the KDM cars filtered on over into the NA market cars? <p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Sad but true... I wonder why that is? I suppose they won't want to push it too far upmarket here in North America... people may not respond well to a high-priced Hyundai (*coughPHAETONcough*). Doesn't seem like the current-gen XG was a smokin' seller over here, either. Someday, maybe.

Andre
02-02-2005, 07:59 PM
I'm liking the shape of the rear, almost like the 7er without the boot hump.....<p>the car looks a lot more contoured and sleek than the Sonata

Naga Royal Guard
02-02-2005, 08:07 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>TheJoyof6</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I agree, usually these types of options usually filter over after the first year on most models or come with them from the get-go but Hyundai-kia doesnt play that game, or hasnt in the past. Look at the Amanti, its been available in the NA market for 2 years... have any of these options which are available on the KDM cars filtered on over into the NA market cars? </TD></TR></TABLE><p>was there ever any real demand for the Amanti? these hyundais have been generating hype alot for over a year, so buyers will be inquiring their dealers, so then Hyundai will have a case to put more expensive stuff in the cars after a few years

hunbin11
02-04-2005, 01:30 PM
From Bobaedream.com...<br><IMG SRC="http://server3.uploadit.org/files/epitherm-in_01.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://server3.uploadit.org/files/epitherm-in_02.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://server2.uploadit.org/files/epitherm-out_01.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://server2.uploadit.org/files/epitherm-out_02.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://server3.uploadit.org/files/epitherm-g10.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://server2.uploadit.org/files/epitherm-g13.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://server3.uploadit.org/files/epitherm-head_01.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://server2.uploadit.org/files/epitherm-tail_01.jpg" BORDER="0">

knicks125
02-04-2005, 01:40 PM
better and better <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Nice find...thanks <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

alexr15
02-04-2005, 03:40 PM
<IMG SRC="http://server3.uploadit.org/files/epitherm-head_01.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><br>Does anyone know if these are Xenon headlights? <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by alexr15 at 5:40 PM 2/4/2005</i>

Santeno
02-04-2005, 03:45 PM
Damn, you would think that if they could get this close that they could take pics if the dashboard. I know we've seen it before, but it would be nice to see it closer to production trim.

hunbin11
02-04-2005, 05:10 PM
Santeno. They covered the dashboard with a black sheet of cloth and nothing could be seen. Take a look at the pictures I posted above more closely.

Andre
02-04-2005, 11:55 PM
Santeno, what's that in the passenger seat? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

Naga Royal Guard
02-05-2005, 07:00 PM
and i thaught i was going crazy <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0">

Banker
02-06-2005, 02:14 PM
The pictures seem to show the car near production ready. Any idea when this car will be introduced?

PlatForm
02-06-2005, 08:38 PM
Banker,probably will be introduced early next year.<p>btw,i realised something that interesting in Hyundai.. they always have 'season' design.<br>before,with artistic body but now all sedan (new sonata & TG) have straight line and more square shape.

Andre
02-06-2005, 09:02 PM
It will be introduced this summer at Seoul Motor show

knicks125
02-07-2005, 06:13 AM
It said it would be introduced in late April at the Seoul Motor Show <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

hunbin11
02-07-2005, 07:14 AM
Some sources said it would be introduced in Geneva auto show this March.

knicks125
02-07-2005, 07:25 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>hunbin11</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Some sources said it would be introduced in Geneva auto show this March.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Really? If that's the case, that should be good <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> I think they should debut the car at an international car show, instead of an area show (nothing to knock off the Seoul Motor Show, which is still an important show in the area), more exposure, to say the least <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

r0b
02-07-2005, 07:57 AM
Yes!! I read it in a car magazine! They said, hyundai is going to introduce TG in Geneva. There was also written that they will show a Getz Face-lift with a new 1.5 CRDi engine with 110PS.... Hope so!

hiwr
02-10-2005, 01:46 AM
1. hyundai used to put more gadgets in domestic version. For example, kia amanti has TV in the back and Navi in front... Hyundai finished NAVI devlp for US market, but waiting to see when to launch. Since hyundai is appealing to people by low price, navi will increase price too mcuh, and not many will opt navi in hyundai yet. So, control in the back seat will be most likely removed or reduce in functions for economic purposes. <p>2. 3.8L engine. <br>NF Sonata in korea doesn't get 3.3L, their are considering when to launch it in kroea or may not ever; however International market gets this version. Price of gas in korea, close to 6$/gallon, forcing korean maker to use smaller engine in their domestic car. New factory in Alabama means there will be American market versions from now on with different engine configuration. 3.8L engin is NOT 6 valves per cyl. NEW V6 engine get valve tronic system(V-tec basically) which is late considering all the others ofeering it. figure of 275hp seem correct<br>3. dual exhaust. <br>Hyundai used to put one exhaust and one for just make up purposes(it was just a tip). In new sonata and TG , it is proper dual exsuast. Look pretty good in the picture. I will post pitcture of NF sonata underbody if I can find one.<br>4. Next in line?<br>President of hyundai said they are builind bmw 5-series fighter to be launched late next year. It will have new V-8 engine with new transmission... it will compete with M45 and G430 in the state most likely. They are considering their version of Lexus with this car even. With this car, hyundai will have 2 V-8 car in domestic market with big heavy executive called equus. <br>

knicks125
02-10-2005, 05:13 AM
All in all good info there...keep us updated whenever you can <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

mzoltarp
02-10-2005, 06:07 AM
I cannot wait for the BMW fighter. It will be great. The Hyundai website is a fun place to go to see their Korean offerings. The Hyundai Dynasty is a total hoot.

knicks125
02-10-2005, 07:08 AM
This is a photoshp version of the TG, what might look like, since we have no idea under the camo:<p><A HREF="http://photoimg.enjoyjapan.naver.com/view/47/43/enjoyjapan_19/5000/4590.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://photoimg.enjoyjapan.nav...0.jpg</A><p>(click the above link to view pic)<p>To me this looks like a M45 with a Hyundai badge.

mzoltarp
02-10-2005, 07:28 AM
It is the old Infiniti M45.

megadethmartyr
02-10-2005, 08:33 PM
That's the worst chop I've seen in a long time. The XG's grill will be similar to the Sonata's. However the XG will have multiple bars whereas the Sonata only has one. Take that to the bank.

Naga Royal Guard
02-10-2005, 08:42 PM
does it have 6 valves / cylinder?

megadethmartyr
02-10-2005, 10:45 PM
you and your damn cylinders<br>hehe <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0">

Andre
02-11-2005, 12:04 AM
Naga, The TG will share engines with the Sonata and/or the new Sedona, read about the V6 engines for those two cars and you'll know all about the Valves and Cylinders of the new TG

megadethmartyr
02-11-2005, 09:44 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>hiwr</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1. hyundai used to put more gadgets in domestic version. For example, kia amanti has TV in the back and Navi in front... Hyundai finished NAVI devlp for US market, but waiting to see when to launch. Since hyundai is appealing to people by low price, navi will increase price too mcuh, and not many will opt navi in hyundai yet. So, control in the back seat will be most likely removed or reduce in functions for economic purposes. <p>2. 3.8L engine. <br>NF Sonata in korea doesn't get 3.3L, their are considering when to launch it in kroea or may not ever; however International market gets this version. Price of gas in korea, close to 6$/gallon, forcing korean maker to use smaller engine in their domestic car. New factory in Alabama means there will be American market versions from now on with different engine configuration. 3.8L engin is NOT 6 valves per cyl. NEW V6 engine get valve tronic system(V-tec basically) which is late considering all the others ofeering it. figure of 275hp seem correct<br>3. dual exhaust. <br>Hyundai used to put one exhaust and one for just make up purposes(it was just a tip). In new sonata and TG , it is proper dual exsuast. Look pretty good in the picture. I will post pitcture of NF sonata underbody if I can find one.<br>4. Next in line?<br>President of hyundai said they are builind bmw 5-series fighter to be launched late next year. It will have new V-8 engine with new transmission... it will compete with M45 and G430 in the state most likely. They are considering their version of Lexus with this car even. With this car, hyundai will have 2 V-8 car in domestic market with big heavy executive called equus. <br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Curious to where you got this info from. You are wrong about the dual exhuasts. also there is no plans to build any more large car right now. The Equus redesign is about it. Might want to check your facts before posting, most of what you wrote is incorrect.

Naga Royal Guard
02-11-2005, 04:28 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>megadethmartyr</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you and your damn cylinders<br>hehe <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>c'mon man there was an article saying the car would have 6 valves / cylinder <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/crying.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>and while my tiefighter has ion engines, i realize the difference b/w a valve and a cylinder

megadethmartyr
02-11-2005, 11:09 PM
hehehe

mzoltarp
02-12-2005, 06:52 AM
I seem to recall reading in one of the car mags that Hyundai is definitely planning its own "Lexus" division, but I do not have a citation for that. When they do their Lexus thing, they will need a BMW fighter and the Equus platform could spawn a midsize and a large car just as other premium makes use platform flexibility I would assume so will Hyundai.

knicks125
02-12-2005, 06:58 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Naga Royal Guard</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>c'mon man there was an article saying the car would have 6 valves / cylinder <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/crying.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>and while my tiefighter has ion engines, i realize the difference b/w a valve and a cylinder </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Naga you not going to give up on this, are you? LOL <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mzoltarp</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I seem to recall reading in one of the car mags that Hyundai is definitely planning its own "Lexus" division, but I do not have a citation for that. When they do their Lexus thing, they will need a BMW fighter and the Equus platform could spawn a midsize and a large car just as other premium makes use platform flexibility I would assume so will Hyundai.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Agreed...I think the XG replacement is the starting point <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Naga Royal Guard
02-12-2005, 07:10 AM
Hi.<p>Hyundai Motor to Unveil Luxury Sedan in April to Target Lexus<p>SEOUL, Jan. 19 (Yonhap) -- Hyundai Motor Co., South Korea's biggest automaker, plans to debut a new sedan in April to challenge Lexus luxury sedans, one of the world's best-selling vehicles from Japanese auto giant Toyota Motor Corp., a company official said Wednesday.<p>The new car, code named "TG," which will first be introduced at an auto show in Ilsan, north of Seoul, is a successor to the luxury brand Grandeur XG, the official said.<p>Hyundai Motor plans to begin selling the new model in South Korea in early May, the official said<br>"We will introduce the new Grandeur XG at the 2005 Seoul Motor Show in April," the official said on condition of anonymity.<p>The event is scheduled to run from April 28 to May 8 at an exhibition center in Ilsan, according to the company.<p>The new vehicle's <FONT SIZE="5"><b>six-valve engine</b></FONT>, manufactured by Hyundai Motor, improves horsepower by 25 percent and consumes 5 percent less fuel.<p>Hyundai Motor plans to sell two new Grandeur XG models, each offered with engine displacement of 2,700 cc and 3,300 cc.<p>Details of their price were still being set, the company said.<p>Hyundai Motor announced earlier it targets 36.2 trillion won (US$34.9 billion) in sales this year, up 12 percent from last year.<p>The company aims to become one of the world's top five automakers by 2010.<br>(END)<br>From: <A HREF="http://english.yna.co.kr/Engnews/20050119/320000000020050119094925E5.html" TARGET="_blank">http://english.yna.co.kr/Engne....html</A><p>This seems to be correct compared to details from a financial report for Mobis.<br>"Mobis Asan Plant (annual<br>capacity 300,000 units) is currently supplying the EF, NF (New Sonata), XG with the<br>chassis module and the NF with the cockpit and front-end module. Mobis will provide the<br>TG (Grandeur XG replace) with the three modules from April 2005."

knicks125
02-12-2005, 07:23 AM
LOL <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I think the newspaper there just meant a new V-6 engine, as we know all Hyundai V6s are 24 Valve, let's just wait and find out from Hyundai USA for the correct "terminology".<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

OlsenHyundai
02-12-2005, 08:01 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>megadethmartyr</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Curious to where you got this info from. You are wrong about the dual exhuasts. also there is no plans to build any more large car right now. The Equus redesign is about it. Might want to check your facts before posting, most of what you wrote is incorrect.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>give him a break...don't be snippy about someone giving out some insider Hyundai <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> info

nismo
02-12-2005, 10:48 AM
The XG replacement has nothing to do with Hyundai's Luxury division.. The next Equus will be included in the Luxury plan and like mentioned before a new RWD sedan about the size of the 5-series is already in the works. I got this info from an article over at Autoweek like a year ago.. I don't think theres going to be any FWD models in the Luxury division. <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by nismo at 9:58 AM 2/12/2005</i>

megadethmartyr
02-12-2005, 07:42 PM
The new XG is actually planned to be used (most likely reskinned and named) as the entry car for the luxury brand. BTW, the luxury brand isn't going to hit the market until at least 2010. The XG is just a starting point.

Naga Royal Guard
02-12-2005, 08:05 PM
is the dealer going to be mad if i go on the lot when the new TG comes out and REMOVE the engine head and count the amount of valves / cylinder<p>i really wanna get some answers here

knicks125
02-12-2005, 08:20 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Naga Royal Guard</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is the dealer going to be mad if i go on the lot when the new TG comes out and REMOVE the engine head and count the amount of valves / cylinder</TD></TR></TABLE><p>haha <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>just go buy one when it comes out and then you can do whatever you want to <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

mzoltarp
02-12-2005, 09:19 PM
I bought my XG300 because it was dirt cheap and had a forever warranty. I was not prepared for how well I would like the car 4 years later. It's a big, smooth, reasonably quick, and 100% reliable vehicle. I cannot wait to see the next XG in the flesh. If the old one is as good as it is, the new one must be truly amazing.

megadethmartyr
02-13-2005, 01:22 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Naga Royal Guard</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is the dealer going to be mad if i go on the lot when the new TG comes out and REMOVE the engine head and count the amount of valves / cylinder<p>i really wanna get some answers here</TD></TR></TABLE><br> <br>The last I have heard is 6 per cylinder. Naga, as far as I can tell, you are right, I just have been having some fun with you. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Naga Royal Guard
02-13-2005, 03:06 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>megadethmartyr</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> <br>The last I have heard is 6 per cylinder. Naga, as far as I can tell, you are right, I just have been having some fun with you. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p><br><IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> so it is 6 valves / cylinder<p>36 Valve V6

spwolf
02-13-2005, 04:25 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Naga Royal Guard</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p><br><IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> so it is 6 valves / cylinder<p>36 Valve V6</TD></TR></TABLE><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0">

Andre
02-13-2005, 04:44 PM
I'm confused :-S<p>but I think the definition for me is always "confused"

megadethmartyr
02-13-2005, 05:08 PM
i'm just having way too much fun at Naga expense.

Andre
02-13-2005, 05:12 PM
I figured THAT much!!<p>Now I'm wondering if....<p>AAARGH<p>you're having it at my expense too :D

knicks125
02-14-2005, 06:05 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>megadethmartyr</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i'm just having way too much fun at Naga expense.</TD></TR></TABLE> <p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I would keep going <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

hiwr
02-14-2005, 05:40 PM
i checked my info before posting.<br>President of hyundai addressed last year about their plan to build their line up. He said new sonata is designed to go head to head to with honda accord and then new TG for lexus es330 and new 5 series fighter is on the way. Its code name is BH. Nasic engine will be 3.8 V6 and larger engine is on development. It is planned to be launched on end of 2006 in korea. equus is completely different car with different concept. It is limo instead of sports sedan. There is good possibility new eqqus will be only for korean market again, or it will be designed to oppose lesux ls430, if they decide to launch in US. <br>Also on dual exaust, two outlets are actual working outlet since new sonata. i wonder where you got your info from. <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by hiwr at 4:54 PM 2/14/2005</i>

megadethmartyr
02-14-2005, 11:04 PM
You are right on everything you have written except for one thing. The Equus comes in either sedan or limo. The dual exhausts are two muffler, two tips set up. The bigger engine is a new V8 to replace the old Mitzu designed 4.5L currently used in the Equus. I get my info from Hyundai, direct, not second hand. <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by megadethmartyr at 11:02 PM 2/14/2005</i>

knicks125
02-15-2005, 03:25 PM
on that subject, Hyundai will begin selling its revamped Equus tomorrow (2/16) with a more powerful engine and larger in size, but only in its home market <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emdgust.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>should we start a new thread on the equus?

Naga Royal Guard
02-15-2005, 05:09 PM
if theres pics and a press release then yea

knicks125
02-18-2005, 10:15 AM
new spy pics<p><IMG SRC="http://img16.exs.cx/img16/8713/xgspy0218052vs.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://img16.exs.cx/img16/8566/xg2spy0218057kr.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Source: Dreamwiz<p>Some observations and questions:<p>Xenon Lights? Nice <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>First pic, Daytime running lights or just regular lights?<p>license plates on the two are different, so are the grille<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by knicks125 at 12:52 PM 2/18/2005</i>

Dodger
02-18-2005, 05:50 PM
The second car has a fog light burnt out- is that a good sign?

megadethmartyr
02-18-2005, 09:39 PM
They aren't production. they are just test cars. There isn't anything wrong with the car. Now you're just trying to find something wrong. ON the grill thing, other than they are trying to see which one they like better. Last I heard it was going to be like the first picture, but I have also heard that Xenon light will be an option.

Top Secret
02-18-2005, 10:06 PM
I dunno - I know this a a bit premature for judgements but looking at the spy pics it looks like those bulbous sedans from the 90's. Not too flash, but I'm willing to change my mind when we see less cladding and official pics.

megadethmartyr
02-19-2005, 04:04 PM
Bulbous it is not. Very sleek and commanding. It is a beatiful car. Added plus, it doesn't look like a korean buick anymore.

knicks125
02-20-2005, 11:01 AM
Agreed very much so.<p>Can't wait to see the actual car in just a few days <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

r0b
02-22-2005, 10:54 AM
Here is some more info found on Bobaedream<p> <IMG SRC="http://www.geocities.com/giovanni_dee/TGinfo.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p> <IMG SRC="http://www.geocities.com/giovanni_dee/TG.jpg" BORDER="0">

Dodger
02-22-2005, 11:02 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>megadethmartyr</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Now you're just trying to find something wrong. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Oh simmer down, I was just kidding. The car looks good, I like it

megadethmartyr
02-22-2005, 12:30 PM
That drawing is EXTREMELY accurate

Laguna
02-22-2005, 12:35 PM
Very good drawing. It looks like the actual car. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

knicks125
02-22-2005, 12:36 PM
looks great...love it <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Laguna
02-22-2005, 12:39 PM
The "prototype" looks slimmer. I think it looks like a Hyundai Sonata. Next gen. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

alexr15
02-22-2005, 06:47 PM
Where'd the pics go? Can someone host them?<p>EDIT: I meant the drawings above...<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by alexr15 at 5:04 AM 2/23/2005</i>

megadethmartyr
02-22-2005, 08:09 PM
I was fortunate to see the new XG when out in in Cali a few weeks ago. From the front it was tough to tell it apart from the Sonata (until I got close that is). Sorry no pics, they wouldn't let a camera (or phone with one in it) anywhere near it. It shows the family identity that will be shown in the future models though. The side profile is beautiful and well done rear. Definately doesn't look like an "old person's" car anymore.

Ultomato
02-22-2005, 09:22 PM
Where exactly in california?

megadethmartyr
02-22-2005, 10:29 PM
Fountain Valley. You won't see one uncovered on the streets yet. The uncovered are internal only.

SantaFe
02-23-2005, 02:25 PM
What is a realistic date for the XG/TG and the Sonata to go on sale in the US?

Ultomato
02-23-2005, 06:00 PM
Really? Im about 15 minutes away from there. But why are they in fountain valley? and were they on the streets or and the freeway?<p>I might manhandle those camo covers myself and take pics... jk

spwolf
02-23-2005, 09:50 PM
according to that chart, 530 better watch out!

knicks125
02-24-2005, 07:29 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>SantaFe</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What is a realistic date for the XG/TG and the Sonata to go on sale in the US?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>For the Sonata, my dealer told me late April/early May, at the latest <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>(that's for my area, it could vary in other areas. Like Mega said, it depends a lot on how fast they clear out on the 05 Sonatas, right Mega?)<p>As far as XG/TG, it's debuting in Geneva, going to go on sale around May in Seoul, and spotted a few sources around the web saying it would be here in the US sometime in the summer, Sept at the latest <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Someone please confirm the above...thanks <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

r0b
02-24-2005, 08:43 AM
Some new pics...<p> <IMG SRC="http://img192.exs.cx/img192/9766/special110925153828ae.jpg" BORDER="0"><p> <IMG SRC="http://img192.exs.cx/img192/7897/special11092517942go.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p> <IMG SRC="http://img192.exs.cx/img192/3200/special110925179429nw.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p> <IMG SRC="http://img192.exs.cx/img192/3326/special11092519533zz.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p> <IMG SRC="http://img192.exs.cx/img192/7215/special110925210122jq.jpg" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by r0b at 8:32 AM 2/24/2005</i>

Naga Royal Guard
02-24-2005, 09:33 AM
<IMG SRC="http://img192.exs.cx/img192/3326/special11092519533zz.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>for a second i thaught that was the old crown victoria front end

against the wall
02-24-2005, 09:42 AM
how could a photographer get so close to a car and not be able to get a pic of the exterior

knicks125
02-24-2005, 09:46 AM
keep us hopeful (and on the edge) until the actual unveiling of this promising car <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

r0b
02-24-2005, 10:05 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>carfan223</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how could a photographer get so close to a car and not be able to get a pic of the exterior</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I was wondering to! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0">

r0b
02-24-2005, 10:41 AM
<A HREF="http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=101847" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=101847</A> <p>The new TG sedan replaces the XG; sales in Europe begin in September. The car is powered by a 3.0-liter V-6 engine. A diesel variant, powered by a new 2.2-liter common rail engine, will follow in summer 2006.<p>

megadethmartyr
02-24-2005, 10:41 AM
but he got the door handle!

Andre
02-24-2005, 10:49 AM
He probably did but since those pictures would undoubtedly look like all the countless other spy shots on the thread it didn't get posted online, or the source you found these on didn't link them to their site or w/e<p>Plus, these could be the remainder of an earlier set of photos where you guys complained they got a lot of shots of the exterior, but not the interior<p>Naga, I thought so too LOL<p>look at the wear on the car's interior, what little you can see looks like it's been well used and can't stand up to it very well (the panel was taken off the consol for whatever reason, the shifter, I'm hoping it's not a sign of things to come<p>Also notice that the interior has a lot of the same materials as the Avalon. Hoping it's as Nice as the Avalon's (or nicer)<p>Speaking of which, I'll be driving the Avalon next Monday

Santeno
02-24-2005, 11:10 AM
No andre, they are actually recent shots posted on babadream. here are some of the others that weren't posted:<p><A HREF="http://www.bobaedream.co.kr/board/data/data_view.php?code=special&No=30429&page=1&select=&content" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bobaedream.co.kr/bo...ntent</A>=<p><A HREF="http://www.bobaedream.co.kr/board/data/data_view.php?code=special&No=30428&page=1&select=&content" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bobaedream.co.kr/bo...ntent</A>=<p><A HREF="http://www.bobaedream.co.kr/board/data/data_view.php?code=special&No=30424&page=1&select=&content" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bobaedream.co.kr/bo...ntent</A>=<p><A HREF="http://www.bobaedream.co.kr/board/data/data_view.php?code=special&No=30423&page=1&select=&content" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bobaedream.co.kr/bo...ntent</A>=<br>

Santeno
02-24-2005, 11:27 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>r0b</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><A HREF="http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=101847" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=101847</A> <p>The new TG sedan replaces the XG; sales in Europe begin in September. The car is powered by a 3.0-liter V-6 engine. A diesel variant, powered by a new 2.2-liter common rail engine, will follow in summer 2006.<p></TD></TR></TABLE><br>This Chart (which disappeared from the previous page) seems to offer more information regarding the TG's specs. If anyone can read korean, can you please post a translation:<p><A HREF="http://www.bobaedream.co.kr/board/data/data_view.php?code=special&No=30302&page=3&select=&content" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bobaedream.co.kr/bo...ntent</A>=<p>Thanks.

Andre
02-24-2005, 11:42 AM
That was only a "For example"<p>I was pointing out to them that they were jumping to conclusions by saying that the photographer only took interior shots

megadethmartyr
02-24-2005, 02:45 PM
I am not sure where autoweek got the idea that there will be a 3.0L in that car. I guess Hyundai might use that old engine in Korea, but it won't show up here. Really didn't like that engine.

oren
02-25-2005, 08:03 AM
leaked spec<br>length:4895<br>width:1850<br>heigth:1490<br>wheel base:2780<br>power:192(hp or ps??) for 2.7 (only for domestic)<br> 233 for 3.3<br>5 speed AT<br>tire: 235/17"<p>andre, don't expect avalon class interior form TG :)<br>it's good but definitely not a avalon class

knicks125
02-25-2005, 08:26 AM
good info...i don't know about europe but this means the base engine for NA should be 3.3, pushing around the same horsepower as the new Sonata, at 237 range. I hope they would have the 3.8 as the top engine choice, hoping for somewhere around 270.<p>As far as the interior, from the spy shots I have seen so far, I believe it is on par with the Avalon, then again, it's just my view <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

megadethmartyr
02-25-2005, 05:08 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>oren</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">leaked spec<br>length:4895<br>width:1850<br>heigth:1490<br>wheel base:2780<br>power:192(hp or ps??) for 2.7 (only for domestic)<br> 233 for 3.3<br>5 speed AT<br>tire: 235/17"<p>andre, don't expect avalon class interior form TG :)<br>it's good but definitely not a avalon class</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well being that the 3.8L should be making it's debut in the XG and there will not be a 2.7L in it at all (U.S. market), I'm not sure what domestic market you're talking about. As far as the interior, yes, you can expect Avalon class interior. What people seem to forget is that Hyundai is VERY capable of executing that sort of car. They have some of the seepest pockets out there. Especially with the upscale push the brand is making, there should be no question of their ability to make it the equal or better than an Avalon.

Andre
02-25-2005, 05:16 PM
3.8 already debuted in the Sedona. Mega, Domestic market means the car's home market, Foreign means where the car is shipped to, or a country which poduces the car while it doesn't hold the home offices<p>So for the US Ford is Domestic, for Korea Ford is Foreign.<p>So when he said "the Domestic Market" he meant that would be the options in Korea.

knicks125
02-25-2005, 05:20 PM
oren is Korean and he lives in S. Korea, domestic for him would be S. Korea and home market for Hyundai <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>so we can agree on 3.3 & 3.8 L (north america), right?<p>This is exciting <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

CalinG7
02-25-2005, 05:23 PM
Looks like it's closer in size to, or between the Altima and Maxima, much smaller than the Avalon and Lucerne. I wonder how they'll position it, more of a competitor to the Maxima or to the Avalon?

knicks125
02-25-2005, 05:37 PM
from the publicity so far Hyundai says they are going to compete with Lexus which I believe they will, espeically since this car will be the starting point for Hyundai's luxury division, although Avalon is more realistic<p>maybe this car can be compared to the Maxima but I believe this car would be a lot better than the Maxima, inside and out. And, as far as the Altima and the Lucerne, there's no way they are even in the same league as this XG replacement. Altima is a midsize sedan which is losing its life considering the number of new midsize sedans that are showing up recently. Lucerne is an underpowered V8 which tries to appeal to a younger crowd in addition to its current crowd (of avg. consumer age of 61) but probably aren't going to be successful.<p>So, to conclude, I would compare the XG replacement mostly with Avalon, and that'd be it. I just can't see anything else that comes close, if what I know is correct, you'd be surprised how good this car look when it is unveiled in just a few days <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Roadster44
02-25-2005, 11:04 PM
Next time I see a car design with C and D pillars...I'm going to track down the designer and beat him with a crowbar. But before that I will ask him a series of questions. Such as why do they keep on making these Ford 500, Passat like designs. I mean come on show some damn creativity. Oiii I hate the US market so much. Its because of it we still have these pathetic designs that are still stuck in 90's.

jro4566
02-26-2005, 06:24 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CalinG7</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wonder how they'll position it, more of a competitor to the Maxima or to the Avalon? </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Why not kill 2 birds with one stone? They could do what Toyota did with the new Avalon by offering a sport model and a luxury model.

mzoltarp
02-26-2005, 07:06 AM
My guess is that Hyundai will go the luxury route. My XG is a total luxocruiser with just enough good handling to not be sloppy. It was a total hunch purchase for me. When I got it, I also had a Rabbit GTi, a Corrado VR6, and a new Beetle with full suspension makeover. The XG is not a sportscar but it is competent. I would suspect that Hyundai is going for the largest market and will bias the new car pretty much like the old one. I assume the body will be a lot stiffer torsionally which will add even more precision.

megadethmartyr
02-26-2005, 02:10 PM
You are very correct in the fact that Hyundai went the route of cruiser with the current XG. Korean Caddy if you will. The next gen though is expected to mix of ride and handling courtesy of the active geometry suspension derived form the new sonata. Having been able to drive the new Sonata, I would dare say the TG, if it can pull it off the way the new Sonata does, should make it a major player in it's class.

toontoy
02-28-2005, 11:05 AM
How much longer till we get a look at this one? I cannot wait.

alexr15
02-28-2005, 03:57 PM
Is AWD going to be available?

megadethmartyr
02-28-2005, 04:03 PM
No, it will be FWD

alexr15
02-28-2005, 04:29 PM
Darn <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emdgust.gif" BORDER="0"> AWD would have definitely added some cache and helped it stand out.

knicks125
02-28-2005, 04:53 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>toontoy</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How much longer till we get a look at this one? I cannot wait.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>in a few hours worth <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>will be unveiled to the world tomorrow at Geneva <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

knicks125
02-28-2005, 06:47 PM
the press conference to unveil the new XG replacement and its latest concept will be 5:30PM (GMT), so that'd be 11:30 AM (Eastern Standard Time) in the US, and so on...<p>everyone should be up by then <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

hunbin11
03-01-2005, 08:47 AM
Got one from Bobaedream...<br><IMG SRC="http://file1.bobaedream.co.kr/special/special1109688307.switzerland_car_show_ge127" BORDER="0">

knicks125
03-01-2005, 08:49 AM
very nice...like it <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>keep them coming <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Santeno
03-01-2005, 10:11 AM
Same pic from bobaedream but blown up and a bit pixilated.<p><A HREF="http://www.bobaedream.co.kr/board/data/data_view.php?code=special&No=30790&page=1&select=&content" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bobaedream.co.kr/bo...ntent</A>=

Patriotdefender
03-01-2005, 10:16 AM
If the rear is any indication- I think Hyundai is going to blow a lot of skeptics away with this offering- hopefully they pulled off the same elegance in the front. Offer this at decent price, follow through on the NAVI and a mainstream winner will be born. YEAH!

r0b
03-01-2005, 10:42 AM
Finally I found It!!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/banana.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>Source : The Car Lounge<p><IMG SRC="http://www.thecarlounge.net/gallery/albums//Events/International%20Auto%20Shows/Geneva/2005/Hyundai/002.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p>Some more!<br><A HREF="http://www.thecarlounge.net/gallery/gallery2.php?mode=album&album=/Events/International%20Auto%20Shows/Geneva/2005/Hyundai#" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarlounge.net/ga...ndai#</A>

Patriotdefender
03-01-2005, 10:48 AM
excellent find!it's a Black Beauty! This is probably going to be the color I buy- I'll have to wait to see what it looks like in a Pearl White....this is beautiful!

Dodger
03-01-2005, 10:49 AM
This thing is truly amazing coming from what used to be a lackluster company<p>This thing will of course be a big hit. It would be an even bigger hit if some people could get over their "I only buy American made products" attitude<p>Since these are official pics, any more should go to the new cars section

against the wall
03-01-2005, 10:54 AM
i want to see a side view of this car

Andre
03-01-2005, 11:04 AM
Here are a ton...<p><A HREF="http://www.thecarlounge.net/gallery/gallery2.php?mode=album&album=/Events/International%20Auto%20Shows/Geneva/2005/Hyundai" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarlounge.net/ga...undai</A><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Andre at 10:10 AM 3/1/2005</i>

Dodger
03-01-2005, 11:16 AM
I started a page in the new cars section and put this link there

Andre
03-01-2005, 11:17 AM
Since it's been unveiled, continue discussion in the new cars area<p><A HREF="http://www.carspyshots.net/zeropost?cmd=tshow&id=14171" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carspyshots.net/zer...14171</A>