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Ascariss
12-16-2004, 10:51 PM
old thread:<br><A HREF="http://carspyshots.proboards2.com/index.cgi?board=spy&action=display&num=1075651651" TARGET="_blank">http://carspyshots.proboards2....51651</A><p><A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=7806&sid=178&n=158" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co...n=158</A><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>carrera4</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br><A HREF="http://www.autocarmagazine.co.uk/News_Article.asp?NA_ID=212472" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autocarmagazine.co....12472</A><p><i><br>...<br>The Q7 is based on modified underpinnings from the Volkswagen Touareg and its Porsche Cayenne sister car, although a longer rear overhang is said to have liberated enough space inside for a third row of seats in a seven-seat 2+3+2 configuration<br>...<br>Among the engines planned for the Q7 at launch in late 2005 are a 4.2-litre V8 petrol and 3.0-litre common-rail diesel. They will be joined later by 3.2-litre V6 petrol, 4.0-litre common-rail diesel and 6.0-litre W12 petrol units. Also under consideration is a sporting QS7 performance flagship, possibly powered by a new 500bhp 5.2-litre V10 engine, to rival the likes of the BMW X5 4.8iS and forthcoming supercharged Range Rover Sport.<p></i><br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>source: autorevue.cz<br><IMG SRC="http://www.autorevue.cz/Images/4327/11.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.autorevue.cz/Images/4327/22.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.autorevue.cz/Images/4327/33.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.autorevue.cz/Images/4327/44.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.autorevue.cz/Images/4327/55.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.autorevue.cz/Images/4327/66.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Bigger pictures from Autobild.de again:<p><IMG SRC="http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/60186.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/60188.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/60187.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>You can see the outline of the rear lights much better now, and they do fit the huckfeldt impressions.<p>continue the wonderful discussion here. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

jro4566
12-20-2004, 07:35 PM
The way Audi disguised the Q7 makes it look like a Chinese knock-off.

geary
12-21-2004, 05:07 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jro4566</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The way Audi disguised the Q7 makes it look like a Chinese knock-off.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Something makes me think they did it one purpose, it's a good idea. <p>Unless... of course it is a Chinese knock-off. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsmileo.gif" BORDER="0">

skoochythatone
12-23-2004, 02:10 AM
New SPYSHOT:<p><A HREF="http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=29&article_id=9054&page_number=1" TARGET="_blank">http://www.caranddriver.com/ar...ber=1</A>

bm88
12-23-2004, 04:20 AM
Thats pretty much un-disguised!<p>The rear lights on that look a lot better than the ones on the impression. They look a lot more like the current Audi rear-end light trend.

Snake Vargas
12-23-2004, 05:29 AM
Same license plate as the black 'Chinese' prototype up there.<p>However, the red tape is gone, and the lights on the new shot look different to the ones on the old - check the shape of the part of the light on the tailgate, for instance - even accounting for the red tape.<br>EDIT: Oh wait, had another look at the 'Chinese' prototype - the later light shape is there, just that it also has black tape on it as well as red.<p>Also, the weirdo badge has been replaced with the four ringed badge. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Snake Vargas at 11:46 PM 12/23/2004</i>

skoochythatone
12-23-2004, 06:36 AM
To me it looks really good. The lights look like the current Audi models, the proportions look ok. The car fits in Audis description of a sporty SUV vehicle, more made for the street than the offroad usage. <p>I cant believe though that they let it drive around undisguised. The way from Ingolstadt, Germany to Finland is realllly long. Usually they get put on trailers with something covering them or inside a truck. Thats at least how MB does it..oh well...busted I would say!

RikfromBelgium
12-23-2004, 10:33 AM
<IMG SRC="http://www.caranddriver.com/assets/image/1222200418331.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br>found at autoscoops<p>looks like a van <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0">

Pedigreepaul
12-23-2004, 11:42 AM
Hmm.. It has the some license plate as the spied car above..<br>

jro4566
12-23-2004, 11:55 AM
Why are the wheels so small? Anyways, what car manufacturer doesn't have an SUV these days!?!

Ascariss
12-23-2004, 11:58 AM
Hmm I wonder why the camo is removed? Could it be photoshopped and stuck on a new BG? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1zhelp.gif" BORDER="0"> Anyways, when is this thing due fro reveal, its looks ready.

LEXUS FAN!
12-23-2004, 01:00 PM
wow...new taillights...thank goodness<p>I can't believe all the camo is off...that is weird...their emblem is even on there...that is really strange when it is a year from being unveiled.

Yannis
12-23-2004, 01:17 PM
The top of the line edition will be named SQ7 and not QS7 as Autocar says.

jro4566
12-23-2004, 08:52 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Yannis</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The top of the line edition will be named SQ7 and not QS7 as Autocar says.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Still too hard to remember. Why not just just one letter and one number! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0">

Riatanas
12-23-2004, 10:12 PM
The Q looks good but I just wish the rear overhang looks shorter in real life because it looks too much like a wagon IMO.

Hornbag
12-24-2004, 12:07 AM
The tail lamps on the top pictures look discusting! They are very bulby, and to me look very un-audi like. But overall the car looks OK. Will it come with low and high range like the VW and Porsche?

Reppu
12-24-2004, 02:23 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jro4566</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why are the wheels so small?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It's not the wheels being small, it's the car being HUGE!!!<p>I'd say that pic is a chop, look at the right rear light.

RS
12-24-2004, 10:18 PM
I say it's a chop too because the lower horizontal line of the tail lights is curvy in this spy pic below, but that one is kind of edgy.<br>The bumper is also too blurry for a pic with that kind of resolution.<br><IMG SRC="http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/60188.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br>

Don Carleone
12-30-2004, 02:18 PM
Oh please, not again that "it's a chop" issue...<p>This is the real McCoy (all pictures of the same car but taken in different places)!<p>Instead somebody should go and put a big, red "ARTISTS IMPRESSION" tag on every GCI that's posted in here!<p>Some people seem to have big troubles seperating the chops from the real life pics...

JBlair
12-30-2004, 02:27 PM
It is not a chop. All of these pics show all of the same details. The shiny black one is different though, because the fake rear lights confuse your eyes and hide some of the detailing.

Verdegrrl
12-30-2004, 05:53 PM
The truck is very large - imagine longer than the Cayenne, but not as tall in most cases. Audi will be testing different sized wheels (sometimes at the same time on different corners) to check ride, noise, rpms, and if they can make the ESP and QTR systems confused. Expect 19 and 20 inch wheels options.

jro4566
12-30-2004, 06:22 PM
My guess is that standard wheels will be 17" while optional "sport package" wheels will be 18", at most 19". I highly doubt 20" on this.

Verdegrrl
12-30-2004, 11:35 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jro4566</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My guess is that standard wheels will be 17" while optional "sport package" wheels will be 18", at most 19". I highly doubt 20" on this.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The Porsche Cayenne is available with 19 and 20 inch wheels. The Touareg can come with 19 inch wheels. Cleary the chassis is capable of carrying that size. Audi usually offers a higher spec car than VW. This will be a more road oriented machine than the Touareg.<p>It's obvious car makers have seen the market for large wheels, and are taking a chunk of that business for themselves, instead of leaving it to the aftermerket. It has nothing to do with handling, and all about image.

spwolf
01-01-2005, 04:07 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>RikfromBelgium</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> <IMG SRC="http://www.caranddriver.com/assets/image/1222200418331.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br>found at autoscoops<p>looks like a van <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>heh, you can honestly say now that a lot of manufacturers took RX's side profile for their SUV's... how the tables have turned...<p>Audi should have had this vehicle long time ago...

Redline
01-01-2005, 04:20 PM
At least it looks good. Not like the Subaru. I bet this thing will be seen with about the same frequency as the XC90.

Verdegrrl
01-01-2005, 04:39 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>spwolf</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>heh, you can honestly say now that a lot of manufacturers took RX's side profile for their SUV's... how the tables have turned...<p>Audi should have had this vehicle long time ago...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Audi should have built this truck a long time ago. Agreed. They had to wrangle with Porsche for permission to build it, since originally it was not part of the plan with the shared platform. Porsche shot down Maserati sharing the platform too. Too much competition.<p>As for looking like an RX, it looks more like a butch Avant 200 to me - which came out long before the RX <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"><p> <IMG SRC="http://www.audiv8.com/german/gallery/collected/200-v8look2.jpg" BORDER="0">

sexy
01-03-2005, 09:58 AM
VolvoXC90,BMW X5 and Mercedes M-Class might be all rivals<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Santeno at 12:52 PM 1/3/2005</i>

Yannis
01-04-2005, 10:07 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jro4566</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My guess is that standard wheels will be 17" while optional "sport package" wheels will be 18", at most 19". I highly doubt 20" on this.</TD></TR></TABLE><p> Pikes Peak concept had PAX wheels of size 295/770 R 560 A (equivalent to a wheel diameter of 20.6 inches) so i expect nothing less than 18 inch and 255/55R18 tyres for the Q7.<p><A HREF="http://www.autoindex.org/news.plt?no=253" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoindex.org/news.plt?no=253</A>

jro4566
01-04-2005, 12:38 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Redline</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I bet this thing will be seen with about the same frequency as the XC90.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I highly doubt that. The XC90 sells because it's a Volvo. You can have all the safety features you want in a car, but it won't have as much effect on the public as one wearing a Volvo badge. Another thing is that the XC90 offers a TRULY base model, with cloth seats.

sexy
01-04-2005, 12:42 PM
The XC90 has leather seat even the basic ones

RikfromBelgium
01-04-2005, 12:49 PM
checked international home, leather isn't standard

Verdegrrl
01-04-2005, 01:37 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jro4566</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I highly doubt that. The XC90 sells because it's a Volvo. You can have all the safety features you want in a car, but it won't have as much effect on the public as one wearing a Volvo badge. Another thing is that the XC90 offers a TRULY base model, with cloth seats.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Base price for the Q7 will be just under $40K for the 280hp V6.<p>If you go to the snow belt areas (especially upscale), the most common cars/trucks seem to be Rovers, Audis, and Subarus.

bucket
01-04-2005, 01:46 PM
the volvo is selling very well in new england, and will probably sell even better with the new V8 becoming available<p>it will be a major feat for audi to sell more Q7s than volvo does XC90s, especially when you can get a loaded twin turbo volvo for the same price as a stripped V6 in the audi.

Naga Royal Guard
01-04-2005, 01:52 PM
thaught they are already offering the yamaha V8

bucket
01-04-2005, 01:59 PM
are they already at the dealerships?

RS
01-04-2005, 06:30 PM
The interior quality will probably be better in the Audi and also better to drive.<br>We don't know yet what ppl think of the looks coz the car isn't released.<br>I don't think it will sell better than the Volvo due to price etc., but it will take away a lot of sales and will sell better than Allroad Quattros did.<br>The XC90 is not the only competition for sure.<br>The V6 isn't weak with 280HP and FSI technology is going to make it smoother than a turbocharged V6 in the Volvo.

Designo
01-04-2005, 08:58 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Verdegrrl</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Base price for the Q7 will be just under $40K for the 280hp V6.<p>If you go to the snow belt areas (especially upscale), the most common cars/trucks seem to be Rovers, Audis, and Subarus.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>that would be direct competition with the Cayene... the V6 Cay is roughly $41,000... won't that take a lot of sales away?? (maybe the image of owning a porsche compared to an audi???)

Verdegrrl
01-04-2005, 09:47 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Joncorde</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>that would be direct competition with the Cayene... the V6 Cay is roughly $41,000... won't that take a lot of sales away?? (maybe the image of owning a porsche compared to an audi???)</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It might. Of course the Touareg undercuts the Porsche too. It's part of the reason why Porsche didn't want to give the go-ahead to Audi (part of the platform sharing clause with VW). I'm guessing it will be partially offset by snob appeal, visual differences, and longer 7 seater (3rd row optional) configuration may help differentiate the brands. But you are right - Audi is out for blood with this truck, and expect handling to be very good - Porsche good? Time will tell.

Designo
01-04-2005, 10:48 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Verdegrrl</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>It might. Of course the Touareg undercuts the Porsche too. It's part of the reason why Porsche didn't want to give the go-ahead to Audi (part of the platform sharing clause with VW). I'm guessing it will be partially offset by snob appeal, visual differences, and longer 7 seater (3rd row optional) configuration may help differentiate the brands. But you are right - Audi is out for blood with this truck, and expect handling to be very good - Porsche good? Time will tell.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Then why on earth would Porsche even ALLOW Audi to use the same structure????? (sorry for the questions... just curious <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

Pedigreepaul
01-05-2005, 05:03 AM
I think Porsche hasn't that much to say.. It's part of the VAG group and so is Audi.. VW is according to me the leading Brand in that group.. If VW wants to share the components with Audi, Porsche has to agree with that.. (I think)

milu
01-05-2005, 11:00 AM
Do your homework; Porsche is not part of VAG. Last link between was that one of the heirs of Porsche -- Pich -- was the chairman of VAG, but he's been replaced by ex-chair of BMW: Piescehtsrieder (sp?).

Verdegrrl
01-05-2005, 11:21 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>milu</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Porsche is not part of VAG. Last link between was that one of the heirs of Porsche -- Pich -- was the chairman of VAG, but he's been replaced by ex-chair of BMW: Piescehtsrieder (sp?).</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Correct. In fact the Cayenne is around 80+% built by VW, with only a few select components and engines installed at the Porsche factory. VAG and Porsche agreed during the design process that Porsche would have some veto power over any offshoots on the same platform that might compete with their truck. That is why Audi is late to market - Porsche wanted to establish their model first. It was touch and go to get approval, and I don't know what kind of back room wrangling was involved. It's clearly why the Audi/Maserati joint venture on this platform did not get the green light. The Maserati Kubang is the prettiest of all the models on this platform, and would have the cachet to compete directly with Porsche (despite being the smallest version).<p> <IMG SRC="http://maseratinet.com/IMAGES/fiamov_copia.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p> <IMG SRC="http://maseratinet.com/IMAGES/02def.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p> <IMG SRC="http://maseratinet.com/IMAGES/rear.jpg" BORDER="0">

Pedigreepaul
01-05-2005, 11:52 AM
Sorry.. Got lost by a giant pile of Homework..<p>My Excuses.. Making mistakes is a human art.. Being stupid also..<p>edit: removed spelling mistakes.. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Pedigreepaul at 4:24 AM 1/18/2005</i>

Verdegrrl
01-05-2005, 06:16 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Pedigreepaul</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sorry.. Got lost by a gaint amount of Homework..<p>My Excuses.. Making mistakes is a human art.. Being stupid also..</TD></TR></TABLE><p>No sweat! It's an assumption many people still have.

RS
01-05-2005, 08:42 PM
This ad was in a Road&Track magazine in 1971.<br>You can see it say "Porsche Audi: a division of Volkswagen" right above the car. Can anyone elaborate this name? Did they use it to introduce the Audi brand that way like Nissan did with the Pathfinder Armada and then renamed it to just Armada? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> What's the deal? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1zhelp.gif" BORDER="0"> <br><IMG SRC="http://www.theautobahn.com/albums/album49/aaa.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>What a barbaric way of advertising from Audi there <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0">

Verdegrrl
01-06-2005, 03:43 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>RS Genesis</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This ad was in a Road&Track magazine in 1971.<br>You can see it say "Porsche Audi: a division of Volkswagen" right above the car. Can anyone elaborate this name? Did they use it to introduce the Audi brand that way like Nissan did with the Pathfinder Armada and then renamed it to just Armada?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It was an attempt to make it clear that Audi belonged to VW, and have a little Porsche glamour rub off on both ;-). <p>VW had purchased Auto Union/Audi from Mercedes in 1965, as a way to gain water cooled engine expertise. Mercedes hadn't been doing anything much with the company, allowing them to potter along, making small cheap cars . At the same time, NSU with the advanced RO 80 was floundering with the unreliable Wankel engines. That car went on to inspire the aerodynamic era of the 5000s. VW pulled them under their wing and in 1977, consolidated pretty much everything under Audi.<p><IMG SRC="http://home.planet.nl/~hulle241/kleuren_ro80/alaskastoelen.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Obviously Porsche and VW have always been close, given the same founder, and many shared parts on early cars. VW went on to become government owned, while Porsche remained private. They became espcially close during the time which the 914 was designed and the almost still-born 924 (which was meant to be a VW, but the gas crunch killed order, and Porsche went it alone). Basically it was a joint venture for Porsche to expand it's market share, and for VW to add some sports car sex appeal. Until recently, Ferdinand Porsche's grandson Ferdinand Piech, was the CEO of Volkswagen Group and the main shareholder of Porsche AG.<p>Porsche pulled away from VW, and purchased back some stock in the company. They stumbled in the '80s and early '90s, but overcame their problems and have gone on to expand again. <p> <A HREF="http://www.audiworld.com/news/00/audihistory/ingolstadt.shtml" TARGET="_blank">http://www.audiworld.com/news/...shtml</A>

Poledancer
01-13-2005, 05:16 PM
Did you notice that the rear hatch is just as on the cocept, i.e. goes on the outiside of the rear lights? Pretty cool they kept it! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0">

KaRaceR
01-16-2005, 10:31 AM
not a bad look there for audi's SUV<br>from the side on view it looks a bit like the beema x5

hollc004
01-17-2005, 10:22 AM
Please Audi release this car soon it fantastic and it looks as if its quality. I think the front grill is a revelation for the audi I really like it

Pedigreepaul
01-18-2005, 05:22 AM
I do like this car, but unfortunately the local authority's in some city's here in Holland have banned the SUV due safety reasons in the center area.. I wish they hadn't done that, although some SUV's are that ugly, it isn't so bad.. :D

A4EP
01-23-2005, 11:23 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>RS</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This ad was in a Road&Track magazine in 1971.<br>You can see it say "Porsche Audi: a division of Volkswagen" right above the car. Can anyone elaborate this name? Did they use it to introduce the Audi brand that way like Nissan did with the Pathfinder Armada and then renamed it to just Armada? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> What's the deal? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1zhelp.gif" BORDER="0"> <br><IMG SRC="http://www.theautobahn.com/albums/album49/aaa.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>What a barbaric way of advertising from Audi there <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>The reason why it was advertised like this was to link Audi to the Porsche/VW dealerships. It wasn't until 1982 (I think taht was the date, early 80's at least) that Porsche had a North American division. Until then VW was the exclusive importer of Porsches into N. America and they were sold throughout the VW/Audi dealerships. Because of this Audi and VW could utilize the Porsche name when refering to dealerships such as in the add you posted. <p>Porsche has NEVER had ANY portion of it's parent company owned by VW. They have a close relationship and share a lot of technology but they do not have any legal business ties, especially now that Porsche North America exists.<p>Hope that helps clear things up.<p>A4EP<br>

Omar
01-28-2005, 11:58 AM
this is from autolies, and says stuff (could just be games, like BMW did with the 1-series) will be on the net from march 2005<p><A HREF="http://www.autospies.com/images/1-27/Audi_Pikes/1.JPG" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autospies.com/image...1.JPG</A>

gone with the wind
02-01-2005, 09:15 AM
<IMG SRC="http://www.audiforum.nl/phpBB2/files/q7_141.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>wfg, Hans.

RS
02-01-2005, 11:14 AM
<B>EXCELLENT!</B><br>I can't wait to see the big grill from the front.<p>BTW: Thank you, Verdegrrl and A4EP!<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by RS at 4:41 PM 2/1/2005</i>

fubar
02-01-2005, 11:16 AM
<IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>That looks awesome!!!!

skoochythatone
02-01-2005, 12:06 PM
The side profile looks really good! But where is that picture from Hans?

RikfromBelgium
02-01-2005, 12:11 PM
The audi-website<br>there is also a teaser

r3vilo
02-01-2005, 02:07 PM
it looks uuuuuuuummmmmm<br>distinctive

gone with the wind
02-01-2005, 02:27 PM
Right Here mate.<br><A HREF="http://62.208.122.164/flash.php?lang=de" TARGET="_blank"><b>Audi Q7.</b></A><p>wfg, Hans.

RetroJapan
02-01-2005, 04:20 PM
Here's one I lightened:<p><IMG SRC="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v210/retrolax2/audiq7.jpg" BORDER="0">

CalinG7
02-01-2005, 04:46 PM
Looks better than in the camoflauged spy pics....... not as wagon-like.

Charger
02-01-2005, 08:18 PM
Heres the whole add with a little front pic<p><IMG SRC="http://img156.exs.cx/img156/3756/audi4kk.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>source: audi

CARSRTHEWORLD
02-02-2005, 02:01 AM
im liking it, you can see from the outline of the front at the top left that it is going to be a very serious and agressive 4x4, most probably, a good seller for audi.<br>It looks also look very different to the first spy shots of it!?<br>Benji

Omar
02-02-2005, 02:03 AM
click on Register: Q7 Globe Service, and you'll see a sketch of the front of the car appear.

gone with the wind
02-03-2005, 03:37 PM
<b>Here is the design skets of the Audi Q7.</b><br><IMG SRC="http://www.audiforum.nl/phpBB2/files/audi_q7_schets_201.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>wfg, Hans.<p><br>

RS
02-03-2005, 08:38 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CARSRTHEWORLD</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im liking it, you can see from the outline of the front at the top left that it is going to be a very serious and agressive 4x4, most probably, a good seller for audi.<br>It looks also look very different to the first spy shots of it!?<br>Benji</TD></TR></TABLE><br>There will still be the eyebrow that will make it less agressive like in the sketch above. Looks kinda tired to me... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/sheep.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>If you look really close on the pic that RetroJapan highlighted (on page 3), you can see the eyebrow there as well.<p>

Andre
02-04-2005, 01:27 AM
I see the Euro-regulation flat nose <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Would probably look better if there were better ways to perform safely.

r3vilo
02-08-2005, 06:12 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>RS</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>There will still be the eyebrow that will make it less agressive like in the sketch above. Looks kinda tired to me... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/sheep.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>If you look really close on the pic that RetroJapan highlighted (on page 3), you can see the eyebrow there as well.<p></TD></TR></TABLE><br>I dont really like many 4x4s but this one has to be one of my least favorite, it reminds me of a long-wheelbase a8 with slightly different headlights and grill. Personally id prefer a toareg or a cayenne which are the only ones i really like

fubar
02-08-2005, 10:34 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>revilo_</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>it reminds me of a long-wheelbase a8 with slightly different headlights and grill.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Are we looking at the same pic? The Q7 looks like a Toaureg on steroids. It looks awesome

r3vilo
02-08-2005, 01:10 PM
maybe ur right but it reminds me of an a8 slightly

Omar
02-09-2005, 07:14 AM
it looks very similar to Pikes Peak, but these are the first official pics, apparently, <b>according to AutoExpress</b>: <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> <br><A HREF="http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/picture_library/dir_36/car_portal_pic_18468.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/p...8.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/picture_library/dir_36/car_portal_pic_18470.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/p...0.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/picture_library/dir_36/car_portal_pic_18469.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/p...9.jpg</A><br>If it's the production car, then why is the interior blue??? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/eek2.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I hope they offer it in this exterior colour when it goes on sale, it looks class. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Article:<br><b><i>Audi Off-roader Caught In Net</i></b><p><i>These are the first official images of Audi's first-ever SUV - and it looks as though the German manufacturer is inviting buyers to join the Q.<p>We found the moody, sunset photograph of the newcomer - which will make its public debut at the Frankfurt Motor Show in September - on one of Audi's official websites. However, when we spoke to the firm, at first it said it knew nothing about the picture!<p>The images clearly show the Q7's look, which is very similar to that of the Pikes Peak concept first seen at the Detroit exhibition in 2003. The overall dimensions are slightly larger, but the distinctive horseshoe grille and slanted headlamps of the prototype remain. <p>Meanwhile, the bulging wheelarches and neatly squared-off roofline are also reminiscent of the show car. Official details about the newcomer are still strictly limited, with Audi saying only that the Q7 will be a premium SUV to rival the likes of the recently launched Range Rover Sport and the Volvo XC90.<p>But Ralph Weyler, a member of the sales and marketing board of management at the company, told Auto Express: "You have seen an idea of the car in the Pikes Peak concept. We've released the images because we wanted to give customers the chance to see it, to make them excited and interested."<p>Sources close to the project have hinted that the all-new Audi will come with a six-seater interior, arranged into three rows of two chairs. The rearmost bench will fold flat into the floor, giving a completely level load bay. <p>As with the flagship A8, the body of the Q7 will be made from aluminium. However, it won't use a full alloy spaceframe - to keep costs down, the car will share much of its underpinnings with the VW Touareg and Porsche Cayenne. This isn't a bad thing, though, as it means the Audi should have exemplary road manners for an SUV, while it also opens up a whole host of engine options. Entry-level versions will most probably use the 3.2-litre V6 unit from the Touareg, while Audi's 4.2-litre V8 is expected to be the most popular petrol choice. Diesel power will come from an entry-level 2.5-litre five-cylinder motor, with 3.0-litre V6, 4.0-litre V8 and top-of-the-range 5.0-litre V10 oil-burning powerplants expected as well.<p>Our spies have also hinted that a high-performance model could appear later. Badged S7, it will use a detuned version of the 5.0-litre V10 engine fitted to the Lamborghini Gallardo.<p>Although the Q7 is unlikely to be marketed for its off-road ability, Audi will ensure the newcomer is more than competent in the mucky stuff. It has a heritage of quattro four-wheel-drive technology to live up to, so expect a similar level of mud-plugging ability to the Range Rover Sport, with adjustable air-suspension and a variety of traction control settings as standard.<p>European sales are expected to start towards the end of this year, with a UK showroom debut pencilled in for spring 2006. Weyler added: "There are big markets for SUVs, so Audi's entry into this class is well timed. <p>"We want the Q7 to provide the perfect balance between the practicality of an SUV and the driving experience of a saloon car or Audi Avant." Prices are tipped to be similar to those of the Range Rover Sport and flagship Touaregs, giving a starting figure of around 36,000. <p>A long waiting list is anticipated, with Audi already reporting more than 1,000 enquiries from potential customers. The order books will be opened in the autumn, but buyers should register their interest with dealers now to ensure a place near the head of the Q...</i>

Ascariss
02-09-2005, 07:17 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>omar</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it looks very similar to Pikes Peak, but these are the first official pics, apparently, <b>according to AutoExpress</b>: <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> <br><A HREF="http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/picture_library/dir_36/car_portal_pic_18468.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/p...8.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/picture_library/dir_36/car_portal_pic_18470.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/p...0.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/picture_library/dir_36/car_portal_pic_18469.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/p...9.jpg</A><br>If it's the production car, then why is the interior blue???<p>I hope they offer it in this exterior colour when it goes on sale, it looks class. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Article:<br><b><i>Audi Off-roader Caught In Net</i></b><p><i>These are the first official images of Audi's first-ever SUV - and it looks as though the German manufacturer is inviting buyers to join the Q.<p>We found the moody, sunset photograph of the newcomer - which will make its public debut at the Frankfurt Motor Show in September - on one of Audi's official websites. However, when we spoke to the firm, at first it said it knew nothing about the picture!<p>The images clearly show the Q7's look, which is very similar to that of the Pikes Peak concept first seen at the Detroit exhibition in 2003. The overall dimensions are slightly larger, but the distinctive horseshoe grille and slanted headlamps of the prototype remain. <p>Meanwhile, the bulging wheelarches and neatly squared-off roofline are also reminiscent of the show car. Official details about the newcomer are still strictly limited, with Audi saying only that the Q7 will be a premium SUV to rival the likes of the recently launched Range Rover Sport and the Volvo XC90.<p>But Ralph Weyler, a member of the sales and marketing board of management at the company, told Auto Express: "You have seen an idea of the car in the Pikes Peak concept. We've released the images because we wanted to give customers the chance to see it, to make them excited and interested."<p>Sources close to the project have hinted that the all-new Audi will come with a six-seater interior, arranged into three rows of two chairs. The rearmost bench will fold flat into the floor, giving a completely level load bay. <p>As with the flagship A8, the body of the Q7 will be made from aluminium. However, it won't use a full alloy spaceframe - to keep costs down, the car will share much of its underpinnings with the VW Touareg and Porsche Cayenne. This isn't a bad thing, though, as it means the Audi should have exemplary road manners for an SUV, while it also opens up a whole host of engine options. Entry-level versions will most probably use the 3.2-litre V6 unit from the Touareg, while Audi's 4.2-litre V8 is expected to be the most popular petrol choice. Diesel power will come from an entry-level 2.5-litre five-cylinder motor, with 3.0-litre V6, 4.0-litre V8 and top-of-the-range 5.0-litre V10 oil-burning powerplants expected as well.<p>Our spies have also hinted that a high-performance model could appear later. Badged S7, it will use a detuned version of the 5.0-litre V10 engine fitted to the Lamborghini Gallardo.<p>Although the Q7 is unlikely to be marketed for its off-road ability, Audi will ensure the newcomer is more than competent in the mucky stuff. It has a heritage of quattro four-wheel-drive technology to live up to, so expect a similar level of mud-plugging ability to the Range Rover Sport, with adjustable air-suspension and a variety of traction control settings as standard.<p>European sales are expected to start towards the end of this year, with a UK showroom debut pencilled in for spring 2006. Weyler added: "There are big markets for SUVs, so Audi's entry into this class is well timed. <p>"We want the Q7 to provide the perfect balance between the practicality of an SUV and the driving experience of a saloon car or Audi Avant." Prices are tipped to be similar to those of the Range Rover Sport and flagship Touaregs, giving a starting figure of around 36,000. <p>A long waiting list is anticipated, with Audi already reporting more than 1,000 enquiries from potential customers. The order books will be opened in the autumn, but buyers should register their interest with dealers now to ensure a place near the head of the Q...</i></TD></TR></TABLE><p>That's the concept.

carrera4
02-16-2005, 03:50 AM
new pic from <A HREF="http://www.autobild.de" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autobild.de</A> <A HREF="http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/64390.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/64390.jpg</A><p>Again that red tape on the rear lights... <br>The boot shape is equal to the pikes peak concept's one

Top Secret
02-16-2005, 04:15 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Iceman</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><IMG SRC="http://www.audiforum.nl/phpBB2/files/audi_q7_schets_201.jpg" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE><p>This looks so ridiculously good! So low and so fat, and although I don't like the whole modifying SUV's thing; I can certainly see this car dumped on the ground!

skoochythatone
02-16-2005, 04:50 AM
Something I will never understand is the fact that somebody who can get that close to two prototypes parked in a public gas station wont snap more than that one picture...still a nice shot..

kuules
02-16-2005, 05:18 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>"carrera4"</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">new pic from <A HREF="http://www.autobild.de" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autobild.de</A><br> <IMG SRC="http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/64390.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Again that red tape on the rear lights... <br>The boot shape is equal to the pikes peak concept's one<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p><br>I made a little chop,<br>i think it will be look something like that:<p><IMG SRC="http://img123.exs.cx/img123/2876/ppt6xf.jpg" BORDER="0">

boston
02-16-2005, 05:49 AM
All I think is Audi Tourag

Reppu
02-16-2005, 07:00 AM
The boot door is quite big! If it turns to be like that, will be a trademark signature of this car.

copic
02-16-2005, 07:06 AM
the door kuules did (btw thx for the pic) is wrong. The actual one is obvious in he pic above ...

the future
02-16-2005, 07:28 AM
I think he did it right. Look at the pictures again.

JBlair
02-16-2005, 09:11 AM
Those cut lines that he shows are 100% accurate. However, there should be cutlines in the tailgate so that it can actually be opened.

RikfromBelgium
02-16-2005, 09:30 AM
no, I think it's right and that the trunk actually opens so far in the side <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0">

carrera4
02-16-2005, 09:34 AM
this could give you a hint (it's the concept)<br><IMG SRC="http://audiworld.free.fr/modeles/PP/26.jpg" BORDER="0">

RikfromBelgium
02-16-2005, 09:38 AM
first time I see that picture, the concept looks much better though <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/crying.gif" BORDER="0">

carrera4
02-16-2005, 09:49 AM
They're pretty similar IMHO... don't know for the front end...

RikfromBelgium
02-16-2005, 09:50 AM
for some reason the concept looks so much sharper for me

gone with the wind
02-16-2005, 10:02 AM
<b>New pistures of the Audi Q7.</b><br><A HREF="http://www.vtm.be/auto/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=420" TARGET="_blank"><b>Pic 1.</b></A><br><A HREF="http://www.vtm.be/auto/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=421" TARGET="_blank"><b>Pic 2.</b></A><p>wfg, Hans.

RikfromBelgium
02-16-2005, 10:51 AM
you might want to check previous pages Hans <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

RS
02-16-2005, 12:49 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>RikfromBelgium</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">for some reason the concept looks so much sharper for me </TD></TR></TABLE><br>I agree. The trunk lines are very rounded on production, but on the concept it's edgy. The D-pillar is also edgier on the concept. The line that extends from headlght to taillight is hardly visible on production version which is boring and really understated. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/sleep.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/crying.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>It looks like Audi is going back to the 90s with this styling <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/angry.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0">

protocatcher
02-16-2005, 03:08 PM
How is it possible to NOT take moore pics , when there are 2 !!!! Q7 prototypes parked like that , strange.....there should have been 100 of pics now ....

Don Carleone
02-16-2005, 03:15 PM
See, this is if some scaryass doesn't want to burn his car <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icon11.gif" BORDER="0">

carrera4
02-17-2005, 11:04 AM
source 4car<br><A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/A/audi/q7/03-large/Audi-Q7-001.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/m...1.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/A/audi/q7/03-large/Audi-Q7-002.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/m...2.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/A/audi/q7/03-large/Audi-Q7-003.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/m...3.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/A/audi/q7/03-large/Audi-Q7-004.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/m...4.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/A/audi/q7/03-large/Audi-Q7-005.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/m...5.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/A/audi/q7/03-large/Audi-Q7-006.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/m...6.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/A/audi/q7/03-large/Audi-Q7-007.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/m...7.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/A/audi/q7/03-large/Audi-Q7-008.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/m...8.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/A/audi/q7/03-large/Audi-Q7-009.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/m...9.jpg</A>

RikfromBelgium
02-17-2005, 11:33 AM
it looks kinda small <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1zhelp.gif" BORDER="0">

RoAnSa
02-17-2005, 01:22 PM
Yeah, is kinda strange, when you see a Q7 parked at this time you should absolutly take more photos, but now there are more and better pix out <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Charger
02-17-2005, 01:35 PM
when do we get to see this? I forgot

RS
02-17-2005, 05:57 PM
Geneva should definitely be it.<br>March, 3rd - 13th<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by RS at 8:57 PM 2/17/2005</i>

SV
02-17-2005, 06:32 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>RikfromBelgium</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it looks kinda small <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1zhelp.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>either that or the people standing around it are freakishly huge...<p>then again the suspension must lower when it's parked, since the touareg and cayenne both have adjustable suspensions which only makes it logical for the Q7 to have it

Chickpig
02-18-2005, 01:50 AM
rear lights camo makes it look like 3er rear lights lol! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0">

Hornbag
02-18-2005, 03:46 AM
Just got a huge brochure of the A6 in da mail, so i thought i better go here and look at this. Im glad they arnt goint to make that huge tail lights thing happen, it was 2 fugly. But it kinda just looks like a Touareg with a sloping rear end and a new face. Not that thats a bad thing!!

sc43018
02-18-2005, 08:41 AM
Is there any talk of a Q5 (or something like that) to compete with the likes of the X3?

Verdegrrl
02-18-2005, 01:52 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>sc43018</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is there any talk of a Q5 (or something like that) to compete with the likes of the X3?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Low priority and most likely to be based on the B8 A4 chassis that is still being designed (present cars are the B6, about to be replaced by the B7 this Spring). Stronger chance we'll see something based on the Audi A3, such as VW is doing (shared platform with the Golf) - it's called the Marrakesh (sp?).<p>Coming to North America in the next 18 months or so is the B7 A4, the S6, the S8, the A6 Avant, the Q7 SUV, and the Sportback - with the TT and LeMans/Q9 a bit further out.

Ascariss
02-18-2005, 01:54 PM
Any word on A3 3 door for canadian market? Or what about the A2? Will it ever be replaced?

[AP]adiweb
02-18-2005, 02:09 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Ascariss</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Or what about the A2? Will it ever be replaced?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>no

Pedigreepaul
02-18-2005, 03:31 PM
There won't be a replacement for the A2.. It didn't sell that much and the concept didn't make as much profit as it had to be.. The costs were way too high..

RS
02-18-2005, 04:22 PM
That plant is producing SEAT Alteas now, I heard.

Ascariss
02-18-2005, 06:21 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Pedigreepaul</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There won't be a replacement for the A2.. It didn't sell that much and the concept didn't make as much profit as it had to be.. The costs were way too high..</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I had a feeling they would kill it, I always liked the A2. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsad.gif" BORDER="0">

RikfromBelgium
02-21-2005, 06:03 AM
interior shots<br><IMG SRC="http://img103.exs.cx/img103/715/audiq71w4mo.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://img103.exs.cx/img103/5384/audiq72w7rk.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><A HREF="http://www.autoscoops.tk" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoscoops.tk</A><p>taken at detroit

Top Secret
02-21-2005, 06:08 AM
This is the concept's interior...

carmaniac
02-21-2005, 08:22 AM
no, that's the Audi Allroad concept's interior, not the Q7<p>neither the Pikes Peak Concept nor the Q7 was shown in Detroit

r3vilo
02-21-2005, 01:41 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Ascariss</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had a feeling they would kill it, I always liked the A2. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsad.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><br>are you saying that they killed it because you liked it??????!!!!!!!!!!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>Oh well, sod's law for you aint it

Ascariss
02-21-2005, 04:49 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>revilo_</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>are you saying that they killed it because you liked it??????!!!!!!!!!!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>Oh well, sod's law for you aint it</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Don't assume sh**, it's the mother of all f**k ups. Next, it was cancelled because of less than great sales. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/werd.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/sheep.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Have you read the rules?<p><A HREF="http://www.carspyshots.net/zeromodify?cmd=editpost&id=177031" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carspyshots.net/zer...77031</A><p>I am a major fan of the last one, maybe if people break that rule, some severe punishments are in order. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icon11.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Ascariss at 4:02 PM 2/21/2005</i>

knicks125
02-22-2005, 07:36 AM
FYI - the rules (the link) are locked and non-readable <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>

Charger
02-22-2005, 08:09 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">FYI - the rules (the link) are locked and non-readable <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <br> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Try this<br><A HREF="http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=11357" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=11357</A>

knicks125
02-22-2005, 08:12 AM
I like them...well strutured <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Thanks!

RikfromBelgium
02-22-2005, 10:46 AM
No I do think this interior is the real deal. I looked up some pictures I took from the concept: It had no screens in the seats and they were a different color. <br>It could be they showed the car for a small number of people at detroit. Such things happen and would explain why the pictures are taken with a phone and not a camera.

Charger
02-22-2005, 10:59 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>RikfromBelgium</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No I do think this interior is the real deal. I looked up some pictures I took from the concept: It had no screens in the seats and they were a different color. <br>It could be they showed the car for a small number of people at detroit. Such things happen and would explain why the pictures are taken with a phone and not a camera. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>But the interior looks exactly like this from the Allroad concept<br><A HREF="http://wallpaper.speedycars.net/audi/Audi_Allroad_quattro_Concept_2005_010.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://wallpaper.speedycars.ne...0.jpg</A>

RikfromBelgium
02-22-2005, 11:06 AM
aaaaah, tha allroad. I thought the Pikes Peak. Yes that could also be the case.<br>But knowing Audi and their opinion on diversity I don't think you will get much difference between this interior and the one in the Q7.

skoochythatone
02-22-2005, 12:22 PM
I agree Rik. The diversity is something I always think is odd in Audis, and sorry to say this Rik, BMWs aswell. All their interiors look so much alike these days. Compare an A4 to an A6 to an A8 interior and they all look so much alike. Lets hope that the Q7 will get something different to bring some fresh air in Audis interiors.

RikfromBelgium
02-22-2005, 12:47 PM
I agree with the interiors, all new BMW sedans have got a simular interior ( 7 series, 5 series, 3series ) but it ends there. The other BMW's do have different interiors. <br>But My problem with Audi is that they do the same with the interior. And increase it. They have decided that all Audi's now will have that shield-grille, so the "lower" A8's aswell.<br>And that rear is now on the A4, A3, A6 and Q7. <br>I Like Audi's, I think they look great. But they get so boring so quickly just because they're so simular. You've seen one, you've seen them all.

Chicho
02-22-2005, 02:00 PM
Here a new photo<p><A HREF="http://elmundomotor.elmundo.es/elmundomotor/2005/02/22/empresas/1109095988.html" TARGET="_blank">http://elmundomotor.elmundo.es....html</A>

JBlair
02-22-2005, 04:37 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>RikfromBelgium</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I agree with the interiors, all new BMW sedans have got a simular interior ( 7 series, 5 series, 3series ) but it ends there. The other BMW's do have different interiors. <br>But My problem with Audi is that they do the same with the interior. And increase it. They have decided that all Audi's now will have that shield-grille, so the "lower" A8's aswell.<br>And that rear is now on the A4, A3, A6 and Q7. <br>I Like Audi's, I think they look great. But they get so boring so quickly just because they're so simular. You've seen one, you've seen them all. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Similar but not the same. BMW's probably share the same amount of looks as the Audis do, but their look is more radical. If anything, Audi shares less because the extent of the shared styling is mostly the grill and the general shape. (since when are the A6's taillamps like the A4s?).

kuules
02-23-2005, 03:45 AM
Next photos of Q7<br><IMG SRC="http://imgs.partys-bei-uns.de/2005/2005-02-21_audi-ingolstadt/imgs/ro-2005-2998.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://imgs.partys-bei-uns.de/2005/2005-02-21_audi-ingolstadt/imgs/ro-2005-2999.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>(C) partys-bei-uns.de

skoochythatone
02-23-2005, 04:02 AM
Did you guys see how big the side mirrors are in that second picture? They look really big, might be the bad picture, but they sure remind me of elephant ears..haha.. ;-)

protocatcher
02-23-2005, 04:30 AM
My guess is that it will be shown at Geneva, its to "ready" already .......so why wait .

Top Secret
02-23-2005, 05:21 AM
Maybe they don't want to take the thunder away from the RS4 and A8 facelifts.<p>I like how the turn indicators are located.

Tidal
02-23-2005, 06:56 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Top Secret</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>I like how the turn indicators are located.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Their the same as in a Passat... VW really is losing it when it comes to differentiating their brand identities, especially with VW/Audi. Having said that, this looks overall nicer than a Touareg ( that will get the big grille too, btw ), but those side mirrors do make me think of Dumbo... and it's not just that picture, if you look at their official spy picture their there too.<p> <A HREF="http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=14029" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=14029</A>

RikfromBelgium
02-23-2005, 10:30 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Similar but not the same. BMW's probably share the same amount of looks as the Audis do, but their look is more radical. If anything, Audi shares less because the extent of the shared styling is mostly the grill and the general shape. (since when are the A6's taillamps like the A4s?). </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I can't believe you can say that. There is a difference between using designcues in different ways on every model( like the kidney's, double lights, hoffmeister ) and using identical items on every model.<p><IMG SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/photos/3040719.001/1002.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/photos/3040719.001/1001.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/photos/3040906.001/1037.jpg" BORDER="0"><IMG SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/photos/3040906.001/1036.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/photos/3050131.001/1003.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/photos/3050131.001/1001.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://auto.t-online.de/c/31/75/22/3175226,tid=i.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://img123.exs.cx/img123/2876/ppt6xf.jpg" BORDER="0">

copic
02-23-2005, 01:53 PM
just cleaned up that official "spypic" ...<p><IMG SRC="http://www.arcor.de/palb/alben/73/832873/1024_3633626464316533.jpg" BORDER="0">

Charger
02-23-2005, 01:55 PM
heres a bigger pic<br><A HREF="http://imgs.partys-bei-uns.de/2005/2005-02-21_audi-ingolstadt/imgs2/ro-2005-2999.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://imgs.partys-bei-uns.de/...9.jpg</A>

LEXUS FAN!
02-23-2005, 04:37 PM
some pictures makes it look like a really nice SUV others make it look like a station wagon

Charger
02-23-2005, 04:40 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>LEXUS FAN!</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">some pictures makes it look like a really nice SUV others make it look like a station wagon</TD></TR></TABLE><br>I was thinking the same thing. We will just have to wait for September(or whatever) to see how it will look.

JBlair
02-23-2005, 05:00 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>RikfromBelgium</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I can't believe you can say that. There is a difference between using designcues in different ways on every model( like the kidney's, double lights, hoffmeister ) and using identical items on every model.<p><IMG SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/photos/3040719.001/1002.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/photos/3040719.001/1001.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/photos/3040906.001/1037.jpg" BORDER="0"><IMG SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/photos/3040906.001/1036.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/photos/3050131.001/1003.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/photos/3050131.001/1001.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://auto.t-online.de/c/31/75/22/3175226,tid=i.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://img123.exs.cx/img123/2876/ppt6xf.jpg" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yeah and you obviously can't see the difference. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/all_coholic.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/all_coholic.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/all_coholic.gif" BORDER="0">

RikfromBelgium
02-24-2005, 10:51 AM
denying these cars look really alike is like denying Darwin, but hey be my guest. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0">

carrera4
02-24-2005, 11:03 AM
I agree the latest audi are all very similar and much more than the different bmw models...<br>I remember an interview of de silva where he said something like "we wil give a specific design to each model"..... THIS IS NOT A SPECIFIC PERSONALITY!!!

Omar
02-24-2005, 11:15 AM
for goodness sake, the new BMW's don't look anything like each other.<p>i'm getting annoyed with Audi - I love the new big grille at the front, but the rear end of the cars is becoming too repetitive: A3 Sportback, A4 Saloon, A4 Avant, A6 Avant, now this Q7

Santeno
02-24-2005, 11:25 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>omar</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">for goodness sake, the new BMW's don't look anything like each other.<p>i'm getting annoyed with Audi - I love the new big grille at the front, but the rear end of the cars is becoming too repetitive: A3 Sportback, A4 Saloon, A4 Avant, A6 Avant, now this Q7</TD></TR></TABLE><br>I think the argument is more about what BMW's used to look like (the phrase smae sausage different length was coined to describe them) as opposed to describe the look of the current crop of models.<p>Don't forget guys that for years Audi was not considered to be in the same level as BMW and MB. It's taken them a lot of doing in order to finally be considered a valid alternative in every class. a good reason for that has been styling similarities between their truly competitive models and those that were not much more than pretty wrappers over so-so mechanicals. I would venture to say that now that audi is easily seen as a true alternative to BMW and MB (and other high end luxury brands), and has a well established look and distinctive styling cues (such as the oversized grill), you will begin to see a bit more experimentation in vehicle styling between different classes (at least after all models incorporate the new design language).

skoochythatone
02-24-2005, 03:30 PM
Damn! You stated that perfectly Santeno! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bowdown.gif" BORDER="0">

Adrokvs
03-04-2005, 01:40 PM
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Vatican
03-04-2005, 10:51 PM
Softer than the Pacifica ...rougher than the Infiniti FX45<p>

RS
03-04-2005, 11:14 PM
<IMG SRC="http://www.fourtitude.com/gallery/albums//Audi/Q7/Preview%20Photos/004.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>There is also a video on <A HREF="http://www.audi.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.audi.com</A>- Click on: "Q7 globe..."<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by RS at 12:21 AM 3/5/2005</i>

knicks125
03-04-2005, 11:36 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Vatican</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Softer than the Pacifica ...rougher than the Infiniti FX45<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>I'm sorry but I don't quite understand your comments, could you please explain? thanks <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Ascariss
03-05-2005, 11:17 AM
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VexedandGlorious
03-05-2005, 11:56 AM
Man the q7 is cooming out to look preety good<br>

skoochythatone
03-05-2005, 01:12 PM
Dont know if this link has been posted before, sorry if it has. It is a Dutch magazine with a really nice video of the Q7 testing:<br><A HREF="http://www.autowereld.com/nieuwsbericht.asp?artikel=1834&pa=1&fr=1" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autowereld.com/nieu...&fr=1&</A>And here are a few nice pictures, also dont know if it has been posted before:<br><A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/gallery/spyshots-2005/A/audi-q7/q7.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/g....html</A><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by skoochythatone at 12:34 PM 3/5/2005</i>

The Water Is Poison
03-06-2005, 05:01 AM
<IMG SRC="http://microsites.audi.com/q7-globe/wallpaper/2/wallpaper800x600.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>off of Audi.<p>Also, the screensaver on Q7 Globe shows the car

RS
03-06-2005, 10:37 AM
skoochythatone and ...DamagedProphet...,they have been posted before on page 5 and 7, but thanks anyway <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I thought this was supposed to be unveiled at Geneva. Can anyone tell me where and when the Q7 will be unveiled?<p><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by RS at 11:45 AM 3/6/2005</i>

Pedigreepaul
03-06-2005, 10:56 AM
I thougt Frankfurt.. in September.. but that seems so far away..

JBlair
03-06-2005, 10:56 AM
Perhaps Paris or Frankfurt.

The Water Is Poison
03-06-2005, 03:42 PM
The website is revealing a new thing every month, they've revealed heritage, next is Design in May.

LSS_C6
03-06-2005, 03:51 PM
Audi is still unvealing the new Q7 in small parts or all dirty but in action!! The whole unvealing is aproching, is going to heppen soon!

T.B.
03-22-2005, 09:41 AM
<A HREF="http://www.audiworld.com/news/05/q7exclusive/audiq7-front.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.audiworld.com/news/...t.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.audiworld.com/news/05/q7exclusive/audiq7-profile.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.audiworld.com/news/...e.jpg</A><p>These are photoshops based on a report from Audi USA during a preview for journalists of the new Q7. for a description of Q7's real exterior and interior look check out this link: <p><A HREF="http://www.audiworld.com/news/05/q7exclusive" TARGET="_blank">http://www.audiworld.com/news/05/q7exclusive</A>/<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Santeno at 2:29 PM 3/22/2005</i>

erzhik
03-22-2005, 10:22 AM
oh man this last pics look great..looks like Q7 will be launched soon..YES!!!

Comrade
03-22-2005, 04:03 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Tine</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><A HREF="http://www.audiworld.com/news/05/q7exclusive/audiq7-front.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.audiworld.com/news/...t.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.audiworld.com/news/05/q7exclusive/audiq7-profile.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.audiworld.com/news/...e.jpg</A><p>These are photoshops based on a report from Audi USA during a preview for journalists of the new Q7. for a description of Q7's real exterior and interior look check out this link: <p><A HREF="http://www.audiworld.com/news/05/q7exclusive" TARGET="_blank">http://www.audiworld.com/news/05/q7exclusive</A>/<p><br><i>Modified by Santeno at 2:29 PM 3/22/2005</i></TD></TR></TABLE><br>This Matt Daniels who did the CGI needs to get his ass schooled. We have already seen the headlights will have "eyebrows" which are not in his chop and that rear overhang is a lot longer than his chop suggests. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0">

LEXUS FAN!
03-22-2005, 04:47 PM
wow that color is interesting...<p>it looks like a concept with that color<p>those specific pictures look pretty good

Hornbag
03-23-2005, 12:55 AM
OMG, this car will go to the top of my SUV list when it comes out...<p>OMG, it looks great<br>

Designo
03-23-2005, 09:32 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hornbag</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">OMG, this car will go to the top of my SUV list when it comes out...<p>OMG, it looks great</TD></TR></TABLE><p>What I don't understand about people and the Q7 is it's looks... why do people find this more attractive than the Cayenne or even the Touareg? Doesn't this look like a "premium" Pacifica? (esp. from the profile...) Maybe just personal preferences???

knicks125
03-23-2005, 09:44 AM
I agree with designo...<p>many of you would disagree with me but I am just gonna say it, this looks like crap.<p>This thing is really confused about whether it wanted to be a car or a SUV, just pick one...to me it just looks weird...if it wants more flavor of a car-based suv, then become one, if it wants more flavor of a suv, then become one also, just don't be stuck in the middle <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>and don't get me even started on the grille...aside from the fact that I don't like it at all, can audi come up with something else other than putting this giant ugly looking grille on every single car...please<p>I used to like vw when they made everything basic, and I have owned a Jetta and an A4, now I don't know what to say about their "changes".<p>Personally I would take the FX over this any day

erzhik
03-23-2005, 11:03 AM
Pacifica? Pacifica doesn't look like Q7 at all. And on top of all Q7 IS WAY BETTER then the PACIFICA.. I actually like the look of this Q7 better then Cayenne... Cayenne is like a 911 SUV..lol..

Santeno
03-23-2005, 11:44 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>somebody..lol</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And on top of all Q7 IS WAY BETTER then the PACIFICA...</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Well isn't that a biased statement. I take it you've test driven both vehicles. Oh wait, the Q7 is not available to dealers yet... Hmmm, That can only mean that you must work for a magazine and got an early test drive so you could write your article. Somehow, based on the grammar of your last post, I seriously doubt that. which can only mean that you have biased preconcieved notions about the car.<p>In the future, if you wish to post opinions, please try to back them up with a reasonable explanation. Thanks.

erzhik
03-23-2005, 06:05 PM
well, It says that it is goin to better than Touareg and Cayenne.. And I have driven Cayenne TURBO back in my city.... and I also have driven my friend's PACIFICA..which means that Q7 is goin to be better than PACIFICA.. Cause there is no way PACIFICA is better than PORSHE or VW... but,<br>thats just my opinion...

Tidal
03-23-2005, 06:15 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>This thing is really confused about whether it wanted to be a car or a SUV</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It wants to compete with the MB R-Klass and the future BMW... thingy. It's a mix.<p>As for your thoughts on Audi's new design direction, i'm with you; There's a lot to be said about simplicity.

erzhik
03-23-2005, 09:26 PM
R class will be launched right?

Andre
03-23-2005, 10:16 PM
<A HREF="http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=14494" TARGET="_blank">Already has been launched</A>

mdaniels
03-24-2005, 09:19 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Comrade</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This Matt Daniels who did the CGI needs to get his ass schooled. We have already seen the headlights will have "eyebrows" which are not in his chop and that rear overhang is a lot longer than his chop suggests. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I don't need my ass schooled - I'll readily admit that my Q7 illustrations aren't 100% correct. But, I think I captured about 80-90% of what the Q7 does actually look like. Considering I've seen it in person, it just might be possible that I may have additional information that others may not. <p>I know the rear bumper isn't correct - and now that you mention it, the rear overhang is probably a little longer than what I have illustrated. The way I have the headlights is how I remember them - although I'm not going to say they are perfect. But honestly, I don't remember it having "eyebrows" - but it could. The mirrors in my illustrations are basically Touareg mirrors - the Q7's are larger. The wheels are the same basic style as I have shown, but the ones in my illustration are Mille Miglia HT3. The color I have shown is a complete fabrication - hey, I've got to have some creative liberties. <p>I have some additional information on how I created the images on my website: <A HREF="http://www.getoutanddrive.com/content/view/59/2/" TARGET="_blank">http://www.getoutanddrive.com/content/view/59/2/</A> <p>For reference I used all the previous spy shots that have already been posted in this thread, along with others that have not been seen before. While not 100% accurate, I do feel my illustrations are the best "look" at the Q7 so far.<br>

skoochythatone
03-24-2005, 09:45 AM
Mdaniels,<br>Dont feel offended by the comments of some people on here. I think your work is great and it really does look authentic, some minor details might not be 100% accurate..but who cares? At least we have somebody on here who has seen the car, and since I am spyphotographer myself(even though not a professional one - yet), I am really jealous at that fact. ;-)

mdaniels
03-24-2005, 10:01 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>skoochythatone</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Mdaniels,<br>Dont feel offended by the comments of some people on here...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>No offence taken. Just wanted to make sure my ass didn't schooled without at least making a comment in my defence. ;-)

Comrade
03-24-2005, 10:01 AM
Didn't mean to offend you. didn't know you're a member here.<p>Anyway, the headlights are concave on the upper part which doesn't seem like something Audi would do, but if eyebrows were there then headlights wouldn't have that concave look. Maybe the car you saw was in a certain color which made the eyebrows not really come out. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>All the spy pics we've seen so far have eyebrows...<p><br>All the details are really good though <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>

mdaniels
03-24-2005, 10:19 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Comrade</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Didn't mean to offend you. didn't know you're a member here.<p>Anyway, the headlights are concave on the upper part which doesn't seem like something Audi would do, but if eyebrows were there then headlights wouldn't have that concave look. Maybe the car you saw was in a certain color which made the eyebrows not really come out. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>All the spy pics we've seen so far have eyebrows...<p><br>All the details are really good though <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>No worries. I actually welcome the feedback.

Designo
03-24-2005, 10:59 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>somebody..lol</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Pacifica? Pacifica doesn't look like Q7 at all. And on top of all Q7 IS WAY BETTER then the PACIFICA.. I actually like the look of this Q7 better then Cayenne... Cayenne is like a 911 SUV..lol..</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well I'm sorry, but IMO, the side profile of the Q7 clearly reminds me of the Pacifica. This car looks like a half- *ss job on Audi's part, to me. It looks like an a wagon/crossover that tries to look like an SUV, or an SUV that tries to look like a crossover. A very weak presence, I think. I kind of expected more, after been shown the Pikes Peak concept.<p>At least the Volkswagen Touareg looks like an SUV, and the Porsche Cayenne too (regardless it's a "911 SUV"... it still resembles an SUV. The Audi Q7? Sorry, doesn't cut it for me. What can it be? The DNA and bloodline are mixed up in this one. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0">

JBlair
03-24-2005, 11:51 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Designo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well I'm sorry, but IMO, the side profile of the Q7 clearly reminds me of the Pacifica. This car looks like a half- *ss job on Audi's part, to me. It looks like an a wagon/crossover that tries to look like an SUV, or an SUV that tries to look like a crossover. A very weak presence, I think. I kind of expected more, after been shown the Pikes Peak concept.<p>At least the Volkswagen Touareg looks like an SUV, and the Porsche Cayenne too (regardless it's a "911 SUV"... it still resembles an SUV. The Audi Q7? Sorry, doesn't cut it for me. What can it be? The DNA and bloodline are mixed up in this one. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>What are you talking about?!?!? This thing is going to look almost identical to the Pikes Peak, even down to the weird way the tailgate opens. And how exactly can you pass judgement on this without EVER seeing real press pictures that show all of it?

erzhik
03-24-2005, 04:45 PM
I meant, Whas is it on sale now? doesn't look like it

LEXUS FAN!
03-24-2005, 05:28 PM
Are those blue pictures official?<p>I'm confused.

erzhik
03-25-2005, 06:26 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Designo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Well I'm sorry, but IMO, the side profile of the Q7 clearly reminds me of the Pacifica. This car looks like a half- *ss job on Audi's part, to me. It looks like an a wagon/crossover that tries to look like an SUV, or an SUV that tries to look like a crossover. A very weak presence, I think. I kind of expected more, after been shown the Pikes Peak concept. <br>At least the Volkswagen Touareg looks like an SUV, and the Porsche Cayenne too (regardless it's a "911 SUV"... it still resembles an SUV. The Audi Q7? Sorry, doesn't cut it for me. What can it be? The DNA and bloodline are mixed up in this one. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/werd.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>How come Touareg and Cayenne look like an SUV and Q7 don't, when THEY ALL SHARE THE SAME PLATFORM... They look completely identical by size, and height... the diff is design and engines.... they all nearly the same size as X5... And don't tell me that X5 is not an SUV... I've driven A LOT of SUV's and believe me, Touareg is not worse that X5... Touareg is actually is much more powerfull than X5... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/werd.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>

mdaniels
03-25-2005, 10:49 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Comrade</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Anyway, the headlights are concave on the upper part which doesn't seem like something Audi would do, but if eyebrows were there then headlights wouldn't have that concave look. Maybe the car you saw was in a certain color which made the eyebrows not really come out. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>All the spy pics we've seen so far have eyebrows...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>After studing the lights more, I do see that mine weren't quite correct in shape, so I've revised my image: <A HREF="http://www.getoutanddrive.com/images/stories/misc/audiq7ill-01-v2.jpg " TARGET="_blank">http://www.getoutanddrive.com/...jpg </A> <p>I wouldn't lable the new shape as "eyebrows" but I do think this does represent the shape of the headlights better. Comments?<p>For reference, here's a link to my original: <A HREF="http://www.getoutanddrive.com/images/stories/misc/audiq7ill-01.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.getoutanddrive.com/...1.jpg</A><p>Guess I should back to work now. ;-)

Designo
03-25-2005, 03:38 PM
Ok. In my opinion, the Q7 resembles a Pacifica and crossover, whereas the Touareg and Cayenne don't. <p>End of discussion. If you had a different viewpoint, fine! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/werd.gif" BORDER="0">

knicks125
03-26-2005, 11:29 AM
I second Designo's view. To me the Q7 doesn't look like a SUV, a crossover, at best...don't worry, if some of us see it as a crossover or MPV, many consumers will see the same thing...it's not a bad thing...

Comrade
03-26-2005, 11:57 AM
I dont.<p>Now, can't we just wait until official pics are realeased and a test drive is done? It may just be a rugged off-roader that proves itself worthy of that name. <br>BTW, why would you take the FX over Q7 when the FX doesn't look much like an SUV either, especially with the shape of its d-pillar, relatively long hood and "half-a-circle" rear end. The only thing that contributes to its suv look are the gigantilc wheels. I haven't seen a magazine even attempt to take it off-road. oh well, it's all just personal preferences...

OA4E
03-26-2005, 12:34 PM
<A HREF="http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/0,1518,348370,00.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.spiegel.de/wirtscha....html</A> <p>For those who speak german too. <br>Infinity has accused Audi using its Name ("Q" and a number). So it`s not sure if Audi can keep the name for the SUVs. But there`s another interesting thing: A enterprise called "Eller Industries Inc." has registered the letter "Q".

knicks125
03-26-2005, 12:35 PM
where did i ever say the FX was a TRUE SUV?<p>regardless, you have your opinions, and I have mine, and I will continue to say I will take the the FX over this, any day, and PERIOD.

knicks125
03-26-2005, 12:36 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>OA4E</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> <A HREF="http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/0,1518,348370,00.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.spiegel.de/wirtscha....html</A> <p>For those who speak german too. <br>Infinity has accused Audi using its Name ("Q" and a number). So it`s not sure if Audi can keep the name for the SUVs. But there`s another interesting thing: A enterprise called "Eller Industries Inc." has registered the letter "Q". </TD></TR></TABLE><p>we have a thread going on for this topic...please see here:<p><A HREF="http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=14498" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=14498</A>

Comrade
03-26-2005, 01:15 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">where did i ever say the FX was a TRUE SUV?<p>regardless, you have your opinions, and I have mine, and I will continue to say I will take the the FX over this, any day, and PERIOD.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well the Q7 is an SUV and has two more seats in case you got 5 kids or whatever, therefore you can't compare them.<br>It's almost like saying, "I'd take the 5-series over the X5 anyday."<br>

knicks125
03-26-2005, 01:20 PM
point taken...but I never compared the two in the first place...I just prefer the FX over this one...this car is good, i know, but I like the FX more, that's all.<p>I will never have five kids <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Comrade
03-27-2005, 12:06 AM
hehe I guess I was pushing the limits a bit too far there. Five kids? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/werd.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0"> If they're little they could just make themselves comfortable in the trunk...<p>Anyway I do respect your taste and opinion. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0">

Spock
04-08-2005, 07:14 AM
From germancarfans. Link : <A HREF="http://www.germancarfans.com/spyphotos.cfm/spyphotoid/6050408.001" TARGET="_blank">http://www.germancarfans.com/s...8.001</A><p> <A HREF="http://www.germancarfans.com/spyphotos/6050408.001/6050408.001.1M.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.germancarfans.com/s...M.jpg</A><p> <A HREF="http://www.germancarfans.com/spyphotos/6050408.001/6050408.001.Mini5L.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.germancarfans.com/s...L.jpg</A> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Ascariss at 9:16 AM 4/8/2005</i>

skoochythatone
04-08-2005, 11:50 AM
Haha..awesome sign in the background of the second pic "wann endlich baubeginn"..that means "when is it gonna start to be build"..exactly the question I am always thinking, the Q7 looks really, really sleek. I really like the design, not too boxy or SUVish, and yet really sporty. <p>By the way, in this weeks AutoBild there is an article about Infiniti trying to take Audi to the courts to question their usage of the "Q" in the model name. Appearantly they fear that people are misled and buy an Audi instead of that Asian thing..

Santeno
04-08-2005, 12:22 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>skoochythatone</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">By the way, in this weeks AutoBild there is an article about Infiniti trying to take Audi to the courts to question their usage of the "Q" in the model name. Appearantly they fear that people are misled and buy an Audi instead of that Asian thing..</TD></TR></TABLE><br><A HREF="http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=14498" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=14498</A> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>BTW, Is it me or does this thing look more like a crossover, in the vein of the Chrysler pacifica, than the SUV the concept looked like? I'ts more like a chubby and tall station wagon. Hmmmm....

Designo
04-08-2005, 09:20 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Santeno</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br><A HREF="http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=14498" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=14498</A> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>BTW, Is it me or does this thing look more like a crossover, in the vein of the Chrysler pacifica, than the SUV the concept looked like? I'ts more like a chubby and tall station wagon. Hmmmm....</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Santeno... that's what I was trying to say earlier (see previous pages), but got attacked by Audi fans here... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/crying.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I'm really sorry, but this car looks really ugly! I can understand the camo etc..., but seriously! It doesn't look nearly as appealing as the Touareg (quite handsome IMO) or the exoticness/wierdness of the Cayenne... looks like a jacked-up AllRoad on steroids.<p>The profile looks too much like a wagon, the rear like a wagon, and the front- BLEEEH! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/pukeface.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>All in all (even w/ camo, which I understand makes the car look different), this "Q7" looks like <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/pukeface.gif" BORDER="0">

JBlair
04-08-2005, 11:29 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Designo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>I'm really sorry, but this car looks really ugly! I can understand the camo etc..., but seriously! It doesn't look nearly as appealing as the Touareg (quite handsome IMO) or the exoticness/wierdness of the Cayenne... looks like a jacked-up AllRoad on steroids.<p> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Perhaps that was what they were going for..........

LEXUS FAN!
04-10-2005, 10:18 PM
here is a pretty good fix up to remove the little camo<p><A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?n=178&sid=178&article=8442" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co...=8442</A>

Verdegrrl
04-11-2005, 01:15 PM
<A HREF="http://www.rs6.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=44678#post44678" TARGET="_blank">http://www.rs6.com/forum/showt...44678</A>

Comrade
04-11-2005, 01:24 PM
Here's more at GCF with a good side view. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <br><A HREF="http://www.germancarfans.com/spyphotos.cfm/spyphotoid/6050408.001" TARGET="_blank">http://www.germancarfans.com/s...8.001</A><p><br>The car definitely needs bigger wheels IMO.

Aidan
04-11-2005, 03:17 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>LEXUS FAN!</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">here is a pretty good fix up to remove the little camo<p><A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?n=178&sid=178&article=8442" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co...=8442</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p>That Boot shutline is really weird..... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/moon_1_D.gif" BORDER="0">

Verdegrrl
04-11-2005, 06:22 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Comrade</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here's more at GCF with a good side view. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <br><A HREF="http://www.germancarfans.com/spyphotos.cfm/spyphotoid/6050408.001" TARGET="_blank">http://www.germancarfans.com/s...8.001</A><p><br>The car definitely needs bigger wheels IMO.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>They use all different sizes, including mismatched sometimes, to test the ESP and ABS systems. They also do various tests with full loads or with a portion of the air suspension switched off to similate a malfunction.<p>The standard wheel size will be 18 inches, with options up to 20.

Comrade
04-12-2005, 10:46 PM
aaah... that should explain why the rear end of the car is lower than the front in some of the pics in the link I had posted.

carrera4
04-13-2005, 04:42 AM
official pic from AMS<br><IMG SRC="http://www.automotorundsport.de/sixcms/media.php/23/q71_450.jpg" BORDER="0">

FRENCH FROM PARIS
04-13-2005, 05:27 AM
This is good but there is a big problem :<p>the front design underlines the number plate and not the audi logo.<p>so <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/pukeface.gif" BORDER="0">

arese
04-13-2005, 05:46 AM
About the design - I think it is very clever, as it gives the illusion of the car having a higher ground clearance, and better off road capabilities.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Santeno at 11:39 AM 4/13/2005</i>

knicks125
04-13-2005, 05:47 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>FRENCH FROM PARIS</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is good but there is a big problem :<p>the front design underlines the number plate and not the audi logo.<p>so <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/pukeface.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I agree totally...the damn grille is so big that the logo is lost in the shuffle...at least it should be in the middle...<p>Dear Audi,<p>bigger is not always better<br>and of course, &gt; is not always success

arese
04-13-2005, 05:58 AM
With the current size / shape of the grille, it doesn't look any better if you change the location of the badge. There is nowhere else for that number plate either. I just had a quick play around in photoshop with some of the suggestions, but it looked worse. And then, even more shocking, if you reduce the size of the grille / split it in half, the car starts to look like an Opel:<p><IMG SRC="http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y65/arese/q72.jpg" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Santeno at 11:47 AM 4/13/2005</i>

FRENCH FROM PARIS
04-13-2005, 06:04 AM
I think that an electronic number plate would be greatest for the future.<br>So, for exemple, you add this little card somewhere and then the police can scan/detect you with a radar.<p>Welcome in the 21st century !!!

arese
04-13-2005, 06:08 AM
Yeah, I hate number plates too! Especially on Alfa Romeo's...<br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Santeno at 11:42 AM 4/13/2005</i>

Santeno
04-13-2005, 08:41 AM
I've deleted all the photoshops and the related coments from the thread. Feel free to start a thread in the Photoshop section of the board.

knicks125
04-13-2005, 09:25 AM
As much as we all have critized the grille on this crossover, the new grilles on their cars (A4, A6, A8, etc) aren't that much better, personally I don't like the whole change, I still love the old styling (on the grille), much more effective IMO.<p>Of course VW is following suit, with the new Jetta, Passat, etc, of course not much better either but more tasteful...

Comrade
05-03-2005, 12:51 PM
Article + the images that we've already seen but in bigger size:<p><A HREF="http://www.fourtitude.com/news/publish/Audi_News/article_1270.shtml" TARGET="_blank">http://www.fourtitude.com/news...shtml</A>

ricerammer
05-09-2005, 09:15 PM
sorry if I'm late, but I bought the new Road and Track and Automobile. Both have uncovered spy pix of the Q7.

CrissCross
05-17-2005, 12:20 PM
<B>Q7 pics </B>- from the globe. Excuse me if they are old... I think the car looks great...<p><br><IMG SRC="http://microsites.audi.com/q7-globe/downloads/02_01_wallpaper_800.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://microsites.audi.com/q7-globe/downloads/02_03_wallpaper_800.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://microsites.audi.com/q7-globe/downloads/02_02_wallpaper_800.jpg" BORDER="0"><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icon11.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by CrissCross at 12:26 PM 5/17/2005</i>

Swallow Doretti
05-17-2005, 12:24 PM
More official pics and video here: <A HREF="http://forums.thecarlounge.net/zerothread?id=1994794" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.thecarlounge.net...94794</A><p>Plus lots of info here: <A HREF="http://www.fourtitude.com/news/publish/Audi_News/article_1270.shtml" TARGET="_blank">http://www.fourtitude.com/news...shtml</A><p>This thing is going to be scary heavy. I've heard it'll weigh in at 6100 lbs. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/eek2.gif" BORDER="0">

erzhik
05-17-2005, 01:34 PM
I love the way the make these pics. at one point they show the car but at the other point it is hard to guess how it will eventually look..<br>Very NICE,

LEXUS FAN!
05-17-2005, 04:13 PM
it looks great...i like it<p>the rims are really nice too...<p>thankfully, it looks more like an SUV than a station wagon<p>btw...are those pictures with it in the sand and driving, are those spy shots or official pictures???

erzhik
05-17-2005, 06:29 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>LEXUS FAN!</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it looks great...i like it<p>the rims are really nice too...<p>thankfully, it looks more like an SUV than a station wagon<p>btw...are those pictures with it in the sand and driving, are those spy shots or official pictures???</TD></TR></TABLE><br>I think those were official pictures from Audi site. but not sure<p>yeah, I agree, it looks nice, the rims are really kool too. I think it is a new design from Audi, isn't it?

Swallow Doretti
05-17-2005, 11:06 PM
New design, but it's basically a stretched Touareg underneath--which is why it weighs enough to have its own gravitational pull...

IcedG35
05-18-2005, 12:07 AM
It's werid becuase in the spy shots, it looks like the thing is a wagon because the roofline appears to slope down towards the back but in the official pics you can tell that the windowline just rises towards the back....i guess they lower the suspension in the rear to trick us in the spy pics????

Verdegrrl
05-18-2005, 09:21 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bgluckman</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This thing is going to be scary heavy. I've heard it'll weigh in at 6100 lbs. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/eek2.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Nah. No heavy duty awd hardware means they save a lot of weight. The system used is much like Audi's passenger cars - Torsen mechanical center dif and electronic diffs at each end.<p>The details:<p>length 196 in<br>width 78 in<br>height 68 in<br>cargo space 21.2-58.3 cubic feet<br>weight 4928 lbs (V6)<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Verdegrrl at 11:09 AM 5/18/2005</i>

Comrade
05-18-2005, 11:55 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Verdegrrl</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>The details:<p>length 196 in<br>width 78 in<br>height 68 in<br>cargo space 21.2-58.3 cubic feet<br>weight 4928 lbs (V6)<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Just for comparison:<p> <B>X5 3.0</B><p>Curb weight: 4,653 lbs<br>Length: 183.7 in<br>Width: 73.7 in<br>Height: 67.5 in<br>Wheelbase: 111.0<p><B>Cayenne (V6)</B><p>Curb Weight: 4762 lbs<br>Length: 188.2 in <br>Width: 75.9 in<br>Height: 66.9 in<br>Wheelbase: 112.4 in<p> <B>Touareg V6</B><br> <br>Curb Weight: 5,086 lbs<br>Length: 187.2 in <br>Width: 75.9 in<br>Wheelbase: 112.4 in<p> <B>FX 35</B><br>Curb Weight: 4,268 lbs<br>Length: 189.1 in<br>Width: 75.8 in<br>Height: 65.0 in<br>Wheelbase: 112.2 in<br>

erzhik
05-19-2005, 01:19 AM
someone was talking about that they are hiding the back on these pics. <br>I think they are hiding not the tail lights but the trunck that everyone is talking about. it is said that it is HUGE

mdaniels
06-16-2005, 09:31 AM
Someone caught these photos during a photo/commerical shoot for the Q7 Copy the link and paste it on yor address bar, then press go, in order to get them to work).<p>(edit) Sorry for that, I've saved the photos to my own site.<p>Source: <A HREF="http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/showthread.php?t=207822" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.rennlist.com/ren...07822</A> <br><IMG SRC="http://www.getoutanddrive.com/misc/q7a.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://www.getoutanddrive.com/misc/q7b.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://www.getoutanddrive.com/misc/q7c.jpg" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by mdaniels at 9:46 AM 6/16/2005</i>

Chris
06-16-2005, 10:29 AM
is the blinker at the same place as it is on the new passat? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsmileo.gif" BORDER="0"> <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CrissCross</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><B>Q7 pics </B><p><IMG SRC="http://microsites.audi.com/q7-globe/downloads/02_02_wallpaper_800.jpg" BORDER="0"><p> </TD></TR></TABLE>

erzhik
06-16-2005, 11:15 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mdaniels</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Someone caught these photos during a photo/commerical shoot for the Q7 Copy the link and paste it on yor address bar, then press go, in order to get them to work).<p>(edit) Sorry for that, I've saved the photos to my own site.<p>Source: <A HREF="http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/showthread.php?t=207822" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.rennlist.com/ren...07822</A> <br><IMG SRC="http://www.getoutanddrive.com/misc/q7a.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://www.getoutanddrive.com/misc/q7b.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://www.getoutanddrive.com/misc/q7c.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p><br><i>Modified by mdaniels at 9:46 AM 6/16/2005</i></TD></TR></TABLE><br>This looks like a true SUV..very nice..<br>is that NYC?

knicks125
06-16-2005, 12:01 PM
I highly doubt that's new york city in the pictures, given the surroundings and the signs; although I could be wrong <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>The car is growing on me a bit <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

mdaniels
06-16-2005, 12:06 PM
The source post on Rennlist states that the photo was taken in "SF" - which I interpret as San Francisco.<p>I do notice that the Q7 has a Euro front plate on it though. Interesting. <br>

knicks125
06-16-2005, 12:20 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mdaniels</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The source post on Rennlist states that the photo was taken in "SF" - which I interpret as San Francisco.<p>I do notice that the Q7 has a Euro front plate on it though. Interesting. <br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Probably is San Francisco. Haven't been there in a while but does look somewhat like the streets and surroundings of SF.<p>I'd bet those euro plates were only placed there for the commercial shoot.<p>Your point about plates got me thinking, those euro plates fit pretty good on the grille, but most plates in the states are a bit different, mostly longer in height and shorter in width, it would look a bit weird on the q7 grille, would it? ...maybe not, i don't know <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1zhelp.gif" BORDER="0">

Santeno
06-16-2005, 12:22 PM
Yeah that's San Francisco. New York City surface streets a predominantly one-way streets. When you find two way streets they tend to be considerable bigger than what is shown in that picture (and would likely not be shut down for a photo shoot).

jumpingmatt
06-16-2005, 12:41 PM
Check out the street markings - It is a one way street. Ahh the magic of advertising ;-)<p>I believe it is Montgomery St in San Francisco. It is definitely in the financial district, and you can see one small edge of the Transamerica Pyramid in the top photo. I think Montgomery is the only street where you could get that perspective, and it is that wide, and one way. <p>There have been a few commercials shot around there the last few years. Makes for a Manhattan-esque backdrop without the costs of shutting down a street in NYC.<p>(edited to learn how to type)

knicks125
06-16-2005, 01:54 PM
good call on the advertising point. I've always liked Audi commercials and this hopefully will turn out to follow the same trend as others<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jumpingmatt</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">(edited to learn how to type)</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Offtopic, you read my mind <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> espeically trying to type like I am actually doing work at my job <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> wish there was a spell check...

zwei Biere bitte
06-16-2005, 02:03 PM
Yes, that is San Francisco. But, does anyone know where exactly this was taken and when? I'm heading up to the City in a few hours, and well, I'm bringing my camera.

mdaniels
06-16-2005, 02:10 PM
The source post on Rennlist was made 6/4 - so nearly 2 weeks ago. I'm sure it's long gone.<p>I live in the Denver area where Audi has a "secret" testing facility, that they use when they're testing cars in the mountains. I should go by and see if anything is out there. Unfortuately, it's on the other side of town where I don't go very often.

against the wall
06-16-2005, 02:49 PM
i bet if u go itll be worth it

LEXUS FAN!
06-16-2005, 04:18 PM
the color makes it look like a clay model.

Comrade
06-17-2005, 12:31 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mdaniels</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The source post on Rennlist states that the photo was taken in "SF" - which I interpret as San Francisco.<p>I do notice that the Q7 has a Euro front plate on it though. Interesting. </TD></TR></TABLE><br>Thanks for the pics mdaniels.<br>Audi did "The Graduate" w/ Dustin Hoffman commercial in NA. but doesn't show it in NA <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> So it could be that they use it Europe and not here.

Santeno
06-17-2005, 01:02 PM
It wouldn't be the first time. A lot of japanese companies film commercials in the US for JDM only vehicles.

Nurburgring
06-17-2005, 01:19 PM
I remember seeing a video of the commercial shoot of the JDM Honda Odyssey. The video was shot in New York.

zwei Biere bitte
06-17-2005, 02:55 PM
Well, today went downtown and found the intersection they were shooting at. Was Mongomery and Pine/California, and unfortuantly, it was business as usual. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emdgust.gif" BORDER="0">

tobajara
07-12-2005, 11:55 AM
I think i saw one in Athens Greece with foreign licence plates.It had the mask of the Q7 but not an AUDI badge.It was huge and beautiful.

Chris_Doane
07-12-2005, 06:13 PM
A few more pics:<p><A HREF="http://www2.autospies.com/images/7-7-05/audi/1.JPG" TARGET="_blank">http://www2.autospies.com/images/7-7-05/audi/1.JPG</A><p><A HREF="http://www2.autospies.com/images/7-7-05/audi/2.JPG" TARGET="_blank">http://www2.autospies.com/images/7-7-05/audi/2.JPG</A><p><A HREF="http://www2.autospies.com/images/7-7-05/audi/3.JPG" TARGET="_blank">http://www2.autospies.com/images/7-7-05/audi/3.JPG</A><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Ascariss at 7:41 PM 7/12/2005</i>

against the wall
07-12-2005, 06:20 PM
i dunno y but i feel that wen i look at those autospies pics that the chassis looks a bit small for the body? is it supposed to be like this?

Chris_Doane
07-12-2005, 07:29 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Explorer_97</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><A HREF="http://www.autospies.com/article/index.asp?articleId=4922" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autospies.com/artic...=4922</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Almost forgot...be sure to view the large pic of this one and see the engineer waving at me with a goofy grin on his face. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0">

against the wall
07-12-2005, 07:44 PM
now that u can see people inside u can now realize how massive this thing is.

sono81
07-12-2005, 08:26 PM
Im not liking the shape of the trunk. That curve in the lower part isnt matching, IMO. It should be the same as the Pikes Peak

erzhik
07-12-2005, 08:47 PM
lol, that guy is waving on the second pic..<p>I said it before and I will keep saying that this car is SWEET! :)

JBlair
07-12-2005, 08:50 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>sono81</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im not liking the shape of the trunk. That curve in the lower part isnt matching, IMO. It should be the same as the Pikes Peak</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Its almost identical as the Pike's Peak.

carspynut
07-13-2005, 05:48 AM
after looking at the pics, i like, but if i offered no critique, well, then it wouldn't be a disc. forum, now would it? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>1) I would of extended the taillamps clser to the license plate housing, so visually, as to reduce the height of the car<br>2) I would also implement a character-line somewhat ala W221 S-class and the CLS in order to cut down on the visual height to give it a sleeker look, It worked for the S-class I think it'd work here. Plus it looks too-slabsided.<br>3) The interior furthers Audi's design language and is executed perfectly. <br>4) the trunk opening design looks novel and will help the Q7 stand-out, and will eventually have some imitators <p>i'll reserve final judgment until i see the final and complete car, and do i look forward to it.

mdaniels
07-13-2005, 06:54 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>carspynut</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1) I would of extended the taillamps clser to the license plate housing, so visually, as to reduce the height of the car </TD></TR></TABLE><p>If you look closely at this pic: <A HREF="http://www2.autospies.com/images/7-7-05/audi/1.JPG" TARGET="_blank">http://www2.autospies.com/images/7-7-05/audi/1.JPG</A><p>You can see that the tailights are disguised by body color tape - they do extend all the way to the license plate housing. <p>Also, I'm surprised this photo hasn't made it to this post yet. It's from Edmunds.com Inside Line: <A HREF="http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/il/news/2005/0624/audi.500.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332...0.jpg</A><p>It was captured in Colorado a couple of weeks ago - unfortunately I'm not the one that caught the pic, even thought I heard that the Q7 was just across town from me. :-(

Omar
07-13-2005, 10:30 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mdaniels</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Also, I'm surprised this photo hasn't made it to this post yet. It's from Edmunds.com Inside Line: <A HREF="http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/il/news/2005/0624/audi.500.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332...0.jpg</A><br></TD></TR></TABLE><br>Nice pic!<p>Am I alone in thinking those wheels look so sh*te?

StevenZoz
07-13-2005, 10:34 AM
Debut will be at Frankfurt<p>SOURCE: Car and Driver Magazine, August 2005

StevenZoz
07-13-2005, 10:55 AM
EDIT: SOURCE: MOTOR TREND, Aug. 2005

Comrade
07-13-2005, 07:18 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>stevenzoz</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Debut will be at Frankfurt<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yes, we know. Welcome to the forum BTW and there is an "EDIT" button in the upper right corner <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"><p><br>Here are some most of the shots we've seen so far, plus some new images of it in black: <A HREF="http://www.audipassion.com/univers_audi/actualites/2005/preview_q7/index.php" TARGET="_blank">http://www.audipassion.com/uni...x.php</A>

sono81
07-13-2005, 10:39 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Its almost identical as the Pike's Peak.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yeah, but the Pikes Peak has the lower part really squared and the car on the pics have it rounded. Thats what Im not liking, got it?