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Ascariss
12-16-2004, 10:38 PM
old thread:<br><A HREF="http://carspyshots.proboards2.com/index.cgi?board=spy&action=display&num=1079814801" TARGET="_blank">http://carspyshots.proboards2....14801</A><p><IMG SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/spyphotos/6041005.001/6041005.001.1l.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/spyphotos/6041005.001/6041005.001.Mini1L.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><b>Some new power-train info on the New TT from today's Autocar:</b><p><IMG SRC="http://www.autocarmagazine.co.uk/Car/Audi/TTQuattro/864451955.jpg" BORDER="0"> <IMG SRC="http://www.autocarmagazine.co.uk/Car/Audi/TTQuattro/864452433.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><i>TWO TURBOS AND DIESEL FOR NEXT TT <p>The next-generation Audi TT will get its first diesel engine and a range-topping 280bhp twin-turbo petrol model as the German company looks to build on the phenomenal success of the current car.<p>Audi wants to double the number of TTs it builds to 60,000 per year with the arrival of the Coups replacement in the last quarter of 2006. The diesel version is pencilled in for late 2007 or early 2008. A new Roadster will follow around 12 months behind the Coup.<p>The 280bhp twin-turbo version is an development of the blown 200bhp 2.0-litre engine that will appear in the new VW Golf GTi, and will be added to the range in 2007, alongside a base-level 150bhp 2.0-litre. The diesel comes from the Golfs 138bhp 2.0-litre TDi unit, pushed out to around 160bhp. The two launch models should be a 200bhp turbo 2.0-litre and a 3.2-litre V6, boosted by 5bhp from the current 250bhp.<p>The car, codenamed AU353, could be unveiled at next Septembers Frankfurt Motor Show. Audi is shying away from any radical changes to the now-iconic styling, but will apply the new shield company grille. The TT is expected to be based on an aluminium spaceframe chassis with Golf running gear.</i><p>by: Christian Schulte<br><A HREF="http://www.audiforum.nl/phpBB2/download.php?id=8804" TARGET="_blank">http://www.audiforum.nl/phpBB2...=8804</A><br><A HREF="http://www.audiforum.nl/phpBB2/download.php?id=8803" TARGET="_blank">http://www.audiforum.nl/phpBB2...=8803</A><br><A HREF="http://www.audiforum.nl/phpBB2/download.php?id=8802" TARGET="_blank">http://www.audiforum.nl/phpBB2...=8802</A> <p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>AU297</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>"Okeh here's the deal on the third bodystyle planned for the next TT...<p>... While the 5-door version of the previous generation A3 was something of a stumble for Audi (appealed to retirees and older fixed-income folks while the 3-door had, not surprisingly, Audi's youngest buyers) the A3 Sportback is attracting even younger customers than the 3-door. <p>As a result, the PP guys and Herr Doktor Winterkorn have come up with the idea adding a more functional but still sporty variant of every Audi volume entry. This means that over the next five years or so, the company will introduce an Sportback version of the A8, A6, A4/A5 and TT. And in the case of the A6 and A4 this will be in addition to the Avant version of each. Compared to their Avant counterparts, the A6 and A4 Sportbacks will feature lower rooflines and a faster backlight/tailgate angle. <p>In the case of the TT, the sportback will feature a longer, flatter roof that will terminate as a low backlight wagon. Actual design has only just commenced on the TT Sportback and a clay model is underway but far from finished so all I've seen where sketches. Based on the next gen vehicle it is still a two-door thank god and looks pretty interesting. In concept it reminded me of a photochop of a TT Avant I seem to recall seeing online somewhere about three years ago or so. <p>Saw the Sportback version of the A8 and it is superganzcool." <br></TD></TR></TABLE><p><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Ascariss at 8:28 PM 12/20/2004</i>

SOLAR
12-20-2004, 09:15 PM
good info, should be a successful little car as it is now. the twin turbos sound good, should turn out to be a quick little devil <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icon11.gif" BORDER="0">

geary
12-20-2004, 09:28 PM
Yeah. Would be great is they planned S and RS versions....<p>Imagine that... an RSTT vert. Wow.

Orestes
12-20-2004, 10:45 PM
hhhmmmm new grill :)<br>

Ascariss
01-02-2005, 01:18 PM
Just brought to my attention by Hans (thanks <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0"> ).<p><A HREF="http://www.trimet.de/en/news/archiv.php?id=39" TARGET="_blank">http://www.trimet.de/en/news/archiv.php?id=39</A><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>23/11/2004 <br>NOMINATION LETTER AUDI TTNF <br>The Trimet Aluminium AG - NL Harzgerode got authorized by "Nomination Letter" from the AUDI AG Ingolstadt to deliver structure parts (space frame) for the new generation AUDI TT. This project is one more step in the technology of weldable die casting parts for the TRIMET AUTOMOTIVE at location Harzgerode.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>

hwrd_roark
01-02-2005, 01:25 PM
Went to my local Audi dealer last week to take a look at the A6 (its gorgeous in the flesh, by the way). I asked him if he has any info about the next generation TT that he was allowed to tell me. All he said was that the release has been pushed back later than originally expected, and in the US it'll have the 2.0t and 3.2 engines.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by hwrd_roark at 7:03 AM 1/3/2005</i>

Dodger
01-02-2005, 02:38 PM
A fairly decent and naturally progressive restyle. Not quite sold on the gaping nose but that is trivial. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

kevinb120
01-02-2005, 03:07 PM
Who knew? Reading the description you would think this car is a performance icon.....I live in a very wealthy and trendy area and the TT has never come across to me or any of my gearhead buddies any type of performance car. I have always thought of it as a quirky little thing that is just a fancy beetle. Its one of those cars that my mom likes. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> There are WAY too many options out there for buyers then a customized Bug. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/sleep.gif" BORDER="0"> Performance buyers buy the 'real' GTI, single HS English teachers buy TT's. The new grille makes it look like Snoopy from a distance though, I'm sure my mom will like it.

Naga Royal Guard
01-02-2005, 05:26 PM
<IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>i would imagine this popular among the soap aficionados ( didnt spell it right nor did i have the desire to ) <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

Charger
01-23-2005, 09:03 AM
<IMG SRC="http://www.audiforum.nl/phpBB2/download.php?id=11277" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://www.audiforum.nl/phpBB2/files/lineale_design_tt.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br>source: auditforum<p>

KaRaceR
01-23-2005, 11:08 AM
i liked the first one anyway, i just thought that it need some tweeking,<br>i think the new one has worked on all the weak points of the old one

Jake
01-23-2005, 01:15 PM
Two weeks ago I was walking in the centre of London and an Audi TT with the new corporate grille (like the A6 and new A4) passed by. I don't think it was any different otherwise, I haven't seen any more since and can't find any reference to it on the net. Does anybody know anything about this?

gone with the wind
01-23-2005, 02:15 PM
That TT be probebly orange or silver grey and look like the one's on the pictures below.<p>wfg, Hans.<p><br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Iceman at 3:05 AM 9/22/2005</i>

Jake
01-23-2005, 03:17 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Iceman</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That TT be probebly orange or silver grey and look like the one's on the pictures below.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The one I saw was silver. I can't remember if the spoiler was like that. So what are they?...official facelift for the whole range; specific face to W12 models (wasn't aware of that either); or some aftermarket tuner add-on? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

gone with the wind
01-23-2005, 05:26 PM
It is a aftermarket tuner add-on van Hofele design.<p>wfg, Hans.

Jake
01-23-2005, 05:48 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Iceman</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It is a aftermarket tuner add-on van Hofele design.<p>wfg, Hans.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>thanks <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0">

AU-297
01-31-2005, 09:33 PM
Here is the first CGI of the Audi TT Sportback that I reported earlier and the Audi TT Coupe (RED). So far the Sportback is not slated for the U.S.!<br> injoi!<IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/all_coholic.gif" BORDER="0"> <br><IMG SRC="http://www.auto-motor-sport.de/sixcms/media.php/20/tt_355.76134.jpg" BORDER="0"> <IMG SRC="http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/sixcms/media.php/23/audi3_450.77303.jpg" BORDER="0"> <IMG SRC="http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/sixcms/media.php/10/Heft_150.76161.jpg" BORDER="0">

gone with the wind
02-01-2005, 02:56 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>AU-297</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here is the first CGI of the Audi TT Sportback that I reported earlier and the Audi TT Coupe (RED). So far the Sportback is not slated for the U.S.! injoi!<IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/all_coholic.gif" BORDER="0"> <br></TD></TR></TABLE><br>I don't like the look of those TT's at all especialy the Shooting brake.<br>I stil hope the new TT will look more in the direction off this impression.<br><IMG SRC="http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/908/tt0un.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>Link upgrade.<p>wfg, Hans.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Iceman at 3:09 AM 9/22/2005</i>

AU-297
02-01-2005, 07:41 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Iceman</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't like the look of those TT's at all especialy the Shooting brake.<br>I stil hope the new TT will look more in the direction off this impression.<br><IMG SRC="http://www.audiforum.nl/phpBB2/files/design_audi_tt_146.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>wfg, Hans.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Nope... that's the new A5 coupe. (which will be extra nice!)

JBlair
02-01-2005, 08:48 AM
Uhm, read the tailgate.

knicks125
02-01-2005, 09:16 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Uhm, read the tailgate.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>You and AU-297 are talking about two different cars...you were on the TT, I think he was talking about this:<p><IMG SRC="http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/sixcms/media.php/23/audi3_450.77303.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Rumored to be the A5 coupe

AU-297
02-01-2005, 11:03 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Uhm, read the tailgate.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Nope... the TT was added. This was a sketch of the Nuvolari Study... now the A5 Coupe.<br> <IMG SRC="http://www.audiforum.nl/phpBB2/files/design_audi_tt_146.jpg" BORDER="0"><br> <IMG SRC="http://images8.fotki.com/v156/photos/2/229737/1584376/G030002-vi.jpg" BORDER="0">

Chris_Doane
07-31-2005, 07:43 PM
Pic:<p><A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/gallery/9893_SHDKRKXWGELYB.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co...B.jpg</A><p>Rendering:<p><A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/gallery/9892_TQJKILRVMAGJK.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co...K.jpg</A><p>Article:<p><A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/Enthusiasts/Spy_Shots/Spy_Shots_07_Audi_TT.S178.A9011.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co....html</A><p>Boy...sure hope that chop isnt accurate.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Santeno at 11:05 AM 8/3/2005</i>

JBlair
07-31-2005, 07:56 PM
I dunno if it is the TT in that pic. It looks too much like other cars (VW convertible) and has the proportios of the Thunderbird (yech).

Spy Guy
07-31-2005, 10:31 PM
No, thats a typically Audi cover - it must be the TT Roadster.

LEXUS FAN!
07-31-2005, 11:47 PM
it looks like the TT too...this picture made me really excited...it looks awesome<p>i hope the CGI is how it will really look...it looks a lot bigger<p>i'm sooooo excited...my dad has this car, and i am sure he will like this version

CosworthKid
08-01-2005, 12:32 AM
This pic looks nothing like the ones that have been doing the rounds in most European car magazines for months now.This one looks like a sporty A4 convertible,no where near what a TT should look like IMO.This looks too "classy"...i mean a TT shouldn't look like the Audi version of the Merc CLK!!<br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by CosworthKid at 12:49 AM 8/1/2005</i>

iamalittlepepper
08-01-2005, 02:23 AM
I have to say the spypic doesn't seem to tell us very much at all.. I think the tcc's artist impression might be wrong?<p>

Hornbag
08-01-2005, 02:59 AM
I actually really like the impression! Looks really cool. I don't know if it looks like a TT though...very, um un-TT like...

Don Carleone
08-01-2005, 08:42 AM
ghpixx is right, that camo's used exclusively by Audi.<p><IMG SRC="http://www.arcor.de/palb/alben/06/1888706/800_3962643164323035.jpg" BORDER="0">

against the wall
08-01-2005, 09:09 AM
from what u can tell from the camo, this car looks nice, but i think its a bit too long to be a TT.

SELLER
08-01-2005, 09:51 AM
That picture has got me thinking Ford T-Bird with that (looks to be) sloping back belt line. <p>Other than that, looks to be pretty hot.. I'm glad this thing looks to have plenty of shapes, and not just the bland "unison" design of the current car.

AXIS
08-01-2005, 10:05 AM
after seeing those spyshots I'm begining to think the next TT will favor the Nuvolari concept

drugmirko
08-03-2005, 04:53 AM
hmm... aggain just bunch of red x-ses... must be something wrong with my comp <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> ...<p>was this one posted?:<br><A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/gallery/9893_SHDKRKXWGELYB.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co...B.jpg</A><p>and is this TT or VW?

gone with the wind
08-03-2005, 08:17 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>drugmirko</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hmm... aggain just bunch of red x-ses... must be something wrong with my comp <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> ...<p>was this one posted?:<br><A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/gallery/9893_SHDKRKXWGELYB.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co...B.jpg</A><br>and is this TT or VW?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Yes that was posted and yes it is a Audi TT Roadster.<br>It wil be sharing the floorplan with the new VW Eos {Concept C.)<p>wfg, Hans.

JBlair
08-03-2005, 11:03 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Iceman</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes that was posted and yes it is a Audi TT Roadster.<br>It wil be sharing the floorplan with the new VW Eos {Concept C.)<p>wfg, Hans.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Its not sharing the entire floorpan, its sharing components of its chassis like most new Audis and VWs. It probably shares more with the A3 than it does with the Eos.

gone with the wind
08-03-2005, 02:16 PM
It is sharing the hole floorplan with de VW becorse of torsion stiffness of the design construction of a from the ground up built real open car.<br>The A3 is not designed as a open car and the TT Roadster will not benefit from it.<p>wfg, Hans.

gone with the wind
08-06-2005, 01:14 AM
Question: Is it not strange that only one picture is to be found on the internet of this Roadster on the picture.<br>I assume that if you have the change to make spy pictures of a car you will shoot as much as possible and not only one. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>wfg, Hans.

protocatcher
08-06-2005, 01:26 AM
There are moore pics of that TT Roadster , its just that TCC choose to publish the one .<br>There will be moore pics out in the magazines ........<p><br>And , its not easy to shoot good spypics from Audis . They have VERY good security, unless they want u to take pics like in the case with the Q7.

Comrade
08-06-2005, 03:36 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>protocatcher</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>And , its not easy to shoot good spypics from Audis . They have VERY good security, unless they want u to take pics like in the case with the Q7.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>yeh, those latest pics of the Q7 are more like offical photos than spy-pics lol.

bm88
08-06-2005, 06:59 AM
They are official shots! :P

protocatcher
08-06-2005, 09:28 AM
MOORHOUSE is right , the latest Q7 pics are official shots.<br>Several pics from the Q7 are official, even those desert pics earlier this year.

Comrade
08-06-2005, 02:06 PM
I guess they thought the spies's shots weren't good enough so they decided to it themselves. :P<br>But this is kinda ruining the big event when the press realese shots are released without the camo. There won't be anything to surprise us when we see them, so I much rather have them do one official photo realease and leave camoed car shots to the car-spies. But then again it's ok since the TT is premiering at the same time at Frankfurt (if I'm correct).<br>

protocatcher
08-06-2005, 03:16 PM
The TT will not be in Frankfurt .From what i heard they are saving it for Geneva 2006.<br>And the TT Roadster will be shown in fall 2006.

LEXUS FAN!
08-06-2005, 03:22 PM
oh no...i hope not

AU297
08-06-2005, 03:31 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>protocatcher</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The TT will not be in Frankfurt .From what i heard they are saving it for Geneva 2006.<br>And the TT Roadster will be shown in fall 2006.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Yup, unfortunately this is true... Audi pulled it last minute... Makes me mad as I'm attending the IAA show and I heard it's not going to be at Geneva. My source says it'll be released at Paris 2006. Makes me wonder if they are having a design revision... similar to what they did to the VW Jetta last minute... Originally it was slated for the Golf face... then was changed last minute to a chrome version of the GTI.

gone with the wind
08-07-2005, 06:56 AM
Is it not possible that Audi is showing a "TT Roadster Concept" on the I.A.A.Frankfurt.<br>Becorse the Roadster under the camo looks finished to me.<p>wfg, Hans.

AU297
08-07-2005, 10:56 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Iceman</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is it not possible that Audi is showing a "TT Roadster Concept" on the I.A.A.Frankfurt.<br>Becorse the Roadster under the camo looks finished to me.<p>wfg, Hans.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>This is what my source says about the TT:<p>"Right now, neither the AU354 or AU355 are set to be at IAA. The Q7 and B7 A4 Cabriolets are gonna be the centerpeice vehicles. The Car Connection article mentions an Autumn 2006 release for the next generation TT. Now, presuming that to be true (I can't confirm or deny it) and with at minimum of ten months of current version TT sales to manage worldwide, the Frankfurt motor show is just too early to display the next car. As for showing the roadster before coupe, remember when production of the current TT ceases it will be stopped fast with both bodystyles turned off at the same time unlike the situation with the A4 Cabriolet where B6 remained in production even though B7 sedans and Avants were streaming down the production line. Maintaining interest in the later-arriving roadster is critical to a good launch for both bodystyles."<p>I hope this helps.<br>au297<br>

gone with the wind
08-07-2005, 01:23 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>AU297</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> This is what my source says about the TT:<br>"Right now, neither the AU354 or AU355 are set to be at IAA. The Q7 and B7 A4 Cabriolets are gonna be the centerpeice vehicles. The Car Connection article mentions an Autumn 2006 release for the next generation TT. Now, presuming that to be true (I can't confirm or deny it) and with at minimum of ten months of current version TT sales to manage worldwide, the Frankfurt motor show is just too early to display the next car. As for showing the roadster before coupe, remember when production of the current TT ceases it will be stopped fast with both bodystyles turned off at the same time unlike the situation with the A4 Cabriolet where B6 remained in production even though B7 sedans and Avants were streaming down the production line. Maintaining interest in the later-arriving roadster is critical to a good launch for both bodystyles."<br>I hope this helps. au297</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Audi have introduced Concepts or modells before on shows and bring them later on the market.<br>The "Allroad Quattro Concept" will go in production next year and the "RS4" shown urly this year on Geneva will go in production later this year.<br>Therefore it is possible that Audi comes with a surprice "Audi TT Roadster Concept" on the I.A.A.Frankfurt.<p>wfg, Hans.

against the wall
08-07-2005, 06:19 PM
wait, was the rs4 a concept or a pre-production model?

JBlair
08-07-2005, 07:37 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>AU297</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is what my source says about the TT:<p>"Right now, neither the AU354 or AU355 are set to be at IAA. The Q7 and B7 A4 Cabriolets are gonna be the centerpeice vehicles. The Car Connection article mentions an Autumn 2006 release for the next generation TT. Now, presuming that to be true (I can't confirm or deny it) and with at minimum of ten months of current version TT sales to manage worldwide, the Frankfurt motor show is just too early to display the next car. As for showing the roadster before coupe, remember when production of the current TT ceases it will be stopped fast with both bodystyles turned off at the same time unlike the situation with the A4 Cabriolet where B6 remained in production even though B7 sedans and Avants were streaming down the production line. Maintaining interest in the later-arriving roadster is critical to a good launch for both bodystyles."<p>I hope this helps.<br>au297</TD></TR></TABLE><p>This assertion doesn't hold much water, because almost all automakers show important vehicles (like the TT) well in advance of when they actually go on sale. I'd be interested to know where you're getting your information as well, especially since that mule look production ready.

against the wall
08-07-2005, 08:06 PM
[QUOTE=JBlair]<p>This assertion doesn't hold much water, because almost all automakers show important vehicles (like the TT) well in advance of when they actually go on sale. QUOTE]<p>yea take the saturn sky for example. it doesnt go on sale until like late 2006 or so and was unveiled in january.

AU297
08-07-2005, 08:18 PM
Think what you guys want... I know my source and he's rarely wrong.

knicks125
08-07-2005, 08:19 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>This assertion doesn't hold much water, because almost all automakers show important vehicles (like the TT) well in advance of when they actually go on sale. I'd be interested to know where you're getting your information as well, especially since that mule look production ready.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>TT is Audi's jewel of crown? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

JBlair
08-07-2005, 08:41 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">TT is Audi's jewel of crown? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Did I ever say that? All I said is that the TT is an important vehicle for Audi, the reason being that its their 'fashion' vehicle.

Santeno
08-08-2005, 07:01 AM
Guys instead of attacking each other, how about simply trying to verify this new information?<p>Just a thought.

JBlair
08-08-2005, 10:35 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>AU297</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Think what you guys want... I know my source and he's rarely wrong. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I know I can't really ask about him in case he does work for audi (they do visit here every once in a while), but how does he know this? What other information concerning audi has he been correct on and can you prove it? I'm not attacking you, I'm just trying to figure out if your source is at all credible, especially since we now have pics of the TT out in the open.

thedesigner
08-09-2005, 02:04 PM
The rims aid in the T-bird lookalikeness... but that drooping belt line, doorsill crease and door seam angle seriously reminds me of the Daihatsu Copen CC which was really just a rip of the TT... the irony, go figure.

SELLER
08-09-2005, 05:15 PM
well i thought the Golf R was guaranteed to get the 3.6 motor... obviously it didnt.<p>But we do have the 3.6 to look forward to in the new TT.. 280hp in the Base V6 TT would be hot... hopefully that will be setting it up for a 330-350hp S/RS version

knicks125
08-09-2005, 06:42 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Did I ever say that? All I said is that the TT is an important vehicle for Audi, the reason being that its their 'fashion' vehicle. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Just wanted clarification. That was all. Thanks! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

gone with the wind
08-10-2005, 02:53 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>SELLER</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i thought the Golf R was guaranteed to get the 3.6 motor... obviously it didnt.<br>But we do have the 3.6 to look forward to in the new TT.. 280hp in the Base V6 TT would be hot... hopefully that will be setting it up for a 330-350hp S/RS version</TD></TR></TABLE><br>engines wil be as follow:<br>R4 2.0T FSI 220-240 hp.<br>V6 3.6 FSI 280 hp.<br>V6 3.6T FSI 330 hp.<p>wfg, Hans.

gone with the wind
09-06-2005, 12:54 AM
I reed stories from people that say that they have seen a silver colored TT Mk2 Test mule in front of the Audi forum in ingolstadt.<br>They have not make pictures of it <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> becorse the car alredy left again on the moment they want to. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>Have some one seen this car and make a picture of it.<br>It look like the TT Mk1 but only wider and longer and with SFG, even the patrol cap is the same they tell.<p>wfg, Hans.

gone with the wind
09-09-2005, 02:09 AM
<A HREF="http://www.bilnorge.no/export/bb_35823.jpeg" TARGET="_blank"><b>Picture.</b></A><p>wfg, Hans.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Iceman at 2:22 AM 9/10/2005</i>

T.B.
09-09-2005, 02:21 AM
<IMG SRC="http://www.bilnorge.no/export/bb_35824.jpeg" BORDER="0">

RikfromBelgium
09-09-2005, 02:36 AM
That looks real and friggin' nice <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0">

T.B.
09-09-2005, 02:42 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>RikfromBelgium</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That looks real and friggin' nice <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yep, IMO the best looking Audi so far (looks more like A5 than TT). Real or not - it doesn't matter. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Except those "me too" rear lights. Again! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>Audi should have saved those rear light design for A5 coupe or TT, not having implied them to Avants (incl. Sportsback) and A4 sedan. <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Tine at 12:06 PM 9/9/2005</i>

RikfromBelgium
09-09-2005, 02:45 AM
at leats they changed the shape of the headlights. They put more effort in this one. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt on this one. It looks amazing.

martinbo
09-09-2005, 03:01 AM
Yeah, it's not bad Rik, in a Nuvolari kind of way... I must say though, that if the new TT looks like this, then I feel it'll have lost most of what makes a TT so appealing: it's distinctiveness. <p>This looks like it will just be another pretty coupe and one which lost its "TT-ness" along the way. <p>In my opinion if Audi wanted such a coupe they should've pitched it at the 3 series and positioned it as a logical extension of the B7 platform (perhaps that's exactly what they will be doing). Thus, the TT could be refreshed in a manner befitting its niche, standalone position within the Audi line-up as opposed to being merely absorbed into the vertically integrated Audi model range.<p>I feel that the adoption of the generic new uni-grill and tail treatment will further dilute the TT's prime differentiators that made it so appealing in the outset.

scorpio14
09-09-2005, 03:04 AM
Is the real thing??? <p>Its a huge change over the current one.... alot longer.... looks more lika MB CL competitor then a SLK<p>Dont get me wrong... i think it looks awesome... but its hard to believe this is the TT...

martinbo
09-09-2005, 03:13 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>scorpio14</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is the real thing??? <p>Its a huge change over the current one.... alot longer.... looks more lika MB CL competitor then a SLK<p>Dont get me wrong... i think it looks awesome... but its hard to believe this is the TT... </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Rather I think the question is: how close is this to the real thing?<br>I do agree with what you're saying though, it does look more like a CLK competitor than the niche model it currently is (in coupe form at least).<p>Does look attractive though...

T.B.
09-09-2005, 03:16 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>scorpio14</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is the real thing??? <p>Its a huge change over the current one.... alot longer.... looks more lika MB CL competitor then a SLK<p>Dont get me wrong... i think it looks awesome... but its hard to believe this is the TT... </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yeah, looks like A5 (A4 based coupe), not TT. If you look closely, you can see the rear seats. TT is only a 2-seater, so ... <p>I guess that's a very refined impression of A5, not TT.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Tine at 2:01 PM 9/9/2005</i>

Nodnarb
09-09-2005, 04:25 AM
Actually, the current coupe is a 2+2, it is only the cabrio that is a 2 seater.

CosworthKid
09-09-2005, 04:33 AM
Yes this is closer to what i expected from Audi for the TT...I like it a lot, as a car..looks beautiful...but i agree, it has lost that "TT" factor. This looks like an Audi coupe, handsome and expencive, but doesnt look like a sporty 2+2 in the way a TT should look like..i mean, this could have easily had 2 extra doors and more seats and be a direct rival to the CLS. Instead i expected a Nissan 350z rival. Still, looks pretty

Luwalira
09-09-2005, 06:00 AM
That is not the real thing. It is just a cleaverly done chop.<p>Here is the original picture.<p><A HREF="http://www.wrc-wallpaper.de/wall/Cars/Audi%20A6%204,2%20S-Line%202.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.wrc-wallpaper.de/wa...2.jpg</A>

[AP]adiweb
09-09-2005, 06:37 AM
Very nice design from what I can see through this camo, and those impressions look really elegant...but more A5-like.<br>One thing I'm sad about is that audi's giving up their traditional door handles. First the big Q, now the double T....

knicks125
09-09-2005, 06:59 AM
martinbo brings up a great point about taking away the TT's uniqueness, if the upcoming TT was like that. The good thing is that above are clearly chops.<p>Looks to me more like a coupe than a roadster...

Omar
09-09-2005, 11:42 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Luwalira</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That is not the real thing. It is just a cleaverly done chop.<p>Here is the original picture.<p><A HREF="http://www.wrc-wallpaper.de/wall/Cars/Audi%20A6%204,2%20S-Line%202.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.wrc-wallpaper.de/wa...2.jpg</A></TD></TR></TABLE><br> Looks... interesting. Can we have it made a bit larger, please? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Luwalira
09-09-2005, 01:25 PM
Sorry posted the wrong link <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Here is the correct one:<p><A HREF="http://www.wrc-wallpaper.de/wall/Cars/Audi%20A6%204,2%20S-Line%202.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.wrc-wallpaper.de/wa...2.jpg</A><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0">

knicks125
09-09-2005, 01:32 PM
Still the same link <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

jhaber
09-09-2005, 02:46 PM
<IMG SRC="http://www.bilnorge.no/export/bb_35823.jpeg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a323/may6th1978/a6chop.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>*

knicks125
09-09-2005, 03:49 PM
The second pic looks to be the A6, again another chop. Why is it here <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Anyway, perhaps a comparison with the first pic, which I would think is a more accurate rendering of the A5 than of the TT (not saying accuracy for either is on target).<p>I am hearing none of these are accurate TT rendering.<p><B>Side note, please do not post these spyshots/renderings as images; rather, as links. Thank you!</B>

imhotep evil
09-09-2005, 03:59 PM
Well, it's nice and diferent from the tipical brick healdlights design of Audi. But still, I would prefer it a bit more radical aproach.

bucket
09-09-2005, 04:06 PM
is the production version of the nuvolari (A6 coupe?) going to be RWD, or will it be another bloated AWD heavyweight? if the styling is close to this, and RWD is at least an option, i can see it swaying some of the more casual BMW customers (those who buy based on looks and brand-name cache more than performance).

jhaber
09-11-2005, 10:06 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The second pic looks to be the A6, again another chop. Why is it here <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> <br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>It's there to show the origin of the TT chop that Luwalira had posted earlier, because his direct link wasn't working. The A6 pic is real.<br>*

CosworthKid
09-11-2005, 11:47 AM
I kinda hope this is the A5 rather than the TT

AU297
09-20-2005, 12:44 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>AU297</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>This is what my source says about the TT:<p>"Right now, neither the AU354 or AU355 are set to be at IAA. The Q7 and B7 A4 Cabriolets are gonna be the centerpeice vehicles. The Car Connection article mentions an Autumn 2006 release for the next generation TT. Now, presuming that to be true (I can't confirm or deny it) and with at minimum of ten months of current version TT sales to manage worldwide, the Frankfurt motor show is just too early to display the next car. As for showing the roadster before coupe, remember when production of the current TT ceases it will be stopped fast with both bodystyles turned off at the same time unlike the situation with the A4 Cabriolet where B6 remained in production even though B7 sedans and Avants were streaming down the production line. Maintaining interest in the later-arriving roadster is critical to a good launch for both bodystyles."<p>I hope this helps.<br>au297</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well now that I'm back from the show... I have to say my source was 100% right! So to all that didn't believe... Your loss.<p>I did get more news though. The TT will no longer be based on the Golf platform, but instead have it's own. It is also growing in price. &lt;- no suprise here! Stay tuned for more info later.

Soul Man
09-20-2005, 01:55 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>AU297</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Well now that I'm back from the show... I have to say my source was 100% right! So to all that didn't believe... Your loss.<p>I did get more news though. The TT will no longer be based on the Golf platform, but instead have it's own. It is also growing in price. &lt;- no suprise here! Stay tuned for more info later.</TD></TR></TABLE> im not necessarily doubting your source but wouldnt it be quite costly to audi and also quite hard to suddenly change a relatively developed golf platformed TT to its own with int eh time frame that the car is expected to be released, this would amke all this other work that has been done for the new TT on the golf platform be a waste of money and time, so either audis being silly, your source is off, or the golf platformed thing was either a brainchild of the presses, or a tip given by audi to lead off the press for some reason

RikfromBelgium
09-20-2005, 02:07 PM
those are a lot of options <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

gone with the wind
09-20-2005, 02:16 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Dooey</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> im not necessarily doubting your source but wouldnt it be quite costly to audi and also quite hard to suddenly change a relatively developed golf platformed TT to its own with int eh time frame that the car is expected to be released, this would amke all this other work that has been done for the new TT on the golf platform be a waste of money and time, so either audis being silly, your source is off, or the golf platformed thing was either a brainchild of the presses, or a tip given by audi to lead off the press for some reason</TD></TR></TABLE><br>From the start on the new TT would never be build on a A3/Golf V platform.<br>That was the assumption of the car media presses.<br>The new TT Mk2 will share the platform with the new VW Eos.<p>wfg, Hans.

Soul Man
09-20-2005, 04:49 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Iceman</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>From the start on the new TT would never be build on a A3/Golf V platform.<br>That was the assumption of the car media presses.<br>The new TT Mk2 will share the platform with the new VW Eos.<p>wfg, Hans.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>thank you that was one of the options i put becuase ive seen this happen before, but as the TT has spread near its final days of preproduction and the rumors of it still being golf based still being used now and then (i just read something from TCC saying it was on teh golf platform) i figured for this car it had a lower possibility

gone with the wind
09-22-2005, 03:18 AM
I hope the new TT will look some like this sketch.<p><A HREF="http://img384.imageshack.us/img384/5342/audittmk2sketchcolor7fj.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><b>Picture.</b></A><br>Link changed.<p><br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Iceman at 2:19 AM 9/23/2005</i>

hakkinen
09-22-2005, 05:29 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Iceman</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>From the start on the new TT would never be build on a A3/Golf V platform.<br>That was the assumption of the car media presses.<br>The new TT Mk2 will share the platform with the new VW Eos.<p>wfg, Hans.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>But isn't this still the A3/Golf/Leon/Octavia platform?<p>@ndreas

gone with the wind
09-22-2005, 06:43 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>hakkinen</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> But isn't this still the A3/Golf/Leon/Octavia platform? @ndreas</TD></TR></TABLE><br>No its a totally new Passat based platform developed for the new Eos.<p>wfg, Hans.

autodanse
09-22-2005, 02:11 PM
all these chops seem to indicate that the new TT is going to be huge (at least in relation to today's). the current TT design is just too iconic. i think its a mistake to redesign it at all. Audi should have at least given it a replacement without having to mar the TT image. whatever it ends up looking like, plenty of people will be dissapointed

Nodnarb
09-22-2005, 02:47 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Iceman</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>No its a totally new Passat based platform developed for the new Eos.<p>wfg, Hans.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Uh, the Eos is Golf based, as was the old TT. But I do however think you're right on the point that this will be Passat based. But, I'm not 100% on that, so don't quote me on it.

Reppu
09-22-2005, 11:10 PM
A transverse-engines-only platform for the Audi TT? I'd rather use the A4 platform.

gone with the wind
09-23-2005, 02:12 AM
The new platform used for new Eos will also be the future platform for VW Golf6, Jetta, Touran, and future Skoda's and Seat's.<br>It is not yet clear if the future A3 will use it becorse it is possible that the Mk3 A3 will have an Audi A4 based platform.<p>wfg, Hans.

martinbo
09-23-2005, 04:04 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Reppu</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A transverse-engines-only platform for the Audi TT? I'd rather use the A4 platform.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Maybe, but that would have consequences regarding packaging...<br>The transverse layout allows for more compact styling - a hallmark of the TT - and a shorter front overhang. <p>I don't know if hanging a V6 lengthways ahead of the front wheels will give us a nice looking TT...

Comrade
09-23-2005, 04:56 AM
I agree with martinbo. The 2.0T A4 drives a little better around bends than the 3.2, and that probably due to too much weight up front. The front wheels have to carry 60% of the A4's weight and the rear wheels, 40% which is actually 20% more. Long front overhang is also very unsexy. Then you have to consider weight as well, I would imagine the TT to be even heavier if it's bason on the heavy A4.

gone with the wind
09-23-2005, 05:33 AM
The present TT with 4 cylinder turbo is also better round bends then the 3.2 VR6 version.<p>wfg, Hans.

Reppu
09-23-2005, 06:38 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>martinbo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Maybe, but that would have consequences regarding packaging...<br>The transverse layout allows for more compact styling - a hallmark of the TT - and a shorter front overhang. <p>I don't know if hanging a V6 lengthways ahead of the front wheels will give us a nice looking TT... </TD></TR></TABLE><p>All BMWs have longitudinal engine and they have the shortest overhangs out there, so i don't see why should it be like that.

Comrade
09-23-2005, 08:21 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Reppu</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>All BMWs have longitudinal engine and they have the shortest overhangs out there, so i don't see why should it be like that.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>It's because the longitudinal engines in Audis sit completely ahead of the front axle. Other RWD have it sitting on the axle and some, for even better balance, place the engines before the front axle (mid-engined cars). The way the FWD or QTR work is that the driveshafts go from the transmission dirctly to the wheels, unlike BMW's AWD where the drivshafts kinda goes from the tranny around the engine to reach the front wheels.<p><br>edit: it would be nice if Audi could do something like BMW or Mercedes for AWD. That would probably require a new platform, but it would benefit balance/handling. <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Comrade at 10:30 AM 9/23/2005</i>

gone with the wind
09-24-2005, 01:12 AM
There are corridor chats within Audi that say they are developing a new Quattro System.<br>It will be introduced the rumour say in the 2007/8 new A4.<p><br>wfg, Hans.

RikfromBelgium
09-25-2005, 05:59 AM
so first the Q7, and than 2 years later a new AWD-system.<br>Nice one Audi.

Verdegrrl
09-25-2005, 12:05 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Iceman</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">There are corridor chats within Audi that say they are developing a new Quattro System.<br>It will be introduced the rumour say in the 2007/8 new A4.<br>wfg, Hans.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>There are revisions coming for B8 A4 chassis and the awd system. Expect rearward shift of engine by several inches. They won't be using a system like BMW, since that involves running drive shafts through or around the engine sump, which limits suspension travel and also means the car cannot be lowered much via a sport package. It's also unlikely they would use a chain drive power take-off like BMW, since slack in the chain means a less direct response, and the BMW also has a fixed front to rear power ratio which is not ideal in low friction surfaces. Changes are not expected to be hugely radical, but my sources are not directly connected with that project, so I don't have a lot of detail.<p>There are some inaccuracies, but here's an article from the Wall Street Journal:<p> <I>GETTING A GRIP<p><br>Luxury Cars Go Off Road<br>All-wheel drive has gone beyond wagons and SUVs, showing up in $50,000 sedans never meant for the mud. Jonathan Welsh on hot seats, a time trial on ice and the Zamboni challenge.<p>By JONATHAN WELSH <br>Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL<br>September 16, 2005; Page W1<p>Shopping to replace his Mercedes sport-utility vehicle this summer, Firdaus Bhathena of Burlington, Mass., wanted a plush interior, a sporty stick shift and, most of all, enough traction to tackle a local hillside in winter. But he didn't pick another SUV: His new four-wheel drive is a zippy BMW sedan.<p>"I would not have bought a sport sedan if it didn't have all-wheel drive," says the software-company president. "I've seen plenty of two-wheel-drive cars sliding around in the snow."<p>Coming to a luxury car near you: all-wheel drive. Until recently found in off-roaders and knobby-tired station wagons, SUV-style traction is now showing up in the kind of fancy four-doors never meant to leave level pavement. Lexus and Cadillac are introducing it in sedans for the first time this year, and BMW's midsize 5-series just added an all-wheel option. Mercedes, which started with one all-wheel-drive car in 1989, now offers the feature on every one of its sedans and wagons. In all, there are 46 car models on the market now with all-wheel drive, up from 35 two years ago.<p>It's a subtle sign of a shift in the way people drive. Motoring history is generally defined by visible changes -- the tailfin period, the late '70s era of boxy imports and the recent age of the SUV. Yet cars have evolved in less-apparent ways, with once-rare options (automatic transmissions, air bags) now commonplace. All-wheel drive is the latest to make a leap into a wide spectrum of family cars. Makers from Ford to Saturn will introduce the option in more cars in the next year, and overall, all-wheel drives are expected to account for 3.5% of the car market in 2007, up from 2.1% this year, says Global Insight, a forecasting firm in Lexington, Mass. More broadly, all-wheel-drive models are expected to account for 31% of overall passenger-vehicle production (that includes trucks and SUVs), up from 21% in 2000.<p>The option is showing up, in part, as luxury makers compete to add more and more horsepower: Because all-wheel drive distributes engine output to four wheels, cars with these systems can handle power that would overwhelm two-wheel-drive models. It's also a good way for auto makers to add to their bottom line: The hardware, developed for SUVs, is relatively cheap to apply to cars but generally fetches $2,000 and up as an option. About 40% of these systems' retail cost is profit, compared with 26% for a glass sunroof and 12% for a full-size spare tire, according to estimates by CNW Marketing/Research of Bandon, Ore.<p>Is it worth the extra expense? With winter a few months down the road, we test-drove the latest all-wheel-drive luxury sedans by makers from Audi, BMW and Mercedes to Cadillac and Lexus. Enlisting four colleagues to assist us, we logged hundreds of miles to get a feel for everything from the latest satellite radio and air-conditioned seats to radar cruise control. But mostly, we wanted to see whether four-wheel drive would actually be a plus. So we ran a set of handling and acceleration tests in the slickest spot we could find in the middle of the summer -- a skating rink at the Northford Ice Pavilion in North Branford, Conn. We used the standard all-season tires that came with each car; manufacturers agreed our test was valid because it simulated the worst possible traction conditions, such as an ice storm.<p>We were surprised to find marked differences between one all-wheel-drive car and the next, both on and off the ice, thanks to obscure-sounding factors buried in their spec sheets (see: "torque split"). While the Audi A6 traveled the 60 feet in our ice-rink test in a speedy 6.25 seconds, others were so pokey we wondered if they could beat even the rink's ice-resurfacing vehicle. (The result? BMW 0, Zamboni 1.) We also found a world of difference in their luxury touches, from the BMW's sweet-smelling leather seats to Lexus's plastic-feeling, Toyota-like dashboard.<p>Extra Pounds<p>Detractors say all-wheel drive is more about marketing than safety or performance. Most of these cars will never get close to a muddy trail, but adding all-wheel drive costs $1,950 extra on the Lexus, $2,200 on the BMW and $2,500 on the Mercedes. Cadillac sells AWD as part of a "luxury performance" package for more than $12,000. And unlike four-wheel drive -- which traditionally lets drivers shift between two- and four-wheel modes -- all-wheel-drive cars typically send power to all four wheels, all the time. That means it's there even when drivers don't need it: The systems add about 200 to 300 pounds to the car, so these models generally don't handle as crisply as rear-wheel-drive cars, and their fuel economy tends to be a mile or two per gallon lower. The extra hardware could mean costly repairs.<p>Makers say all-wheel drive is most popular in snowy areas, but the system also helps in tight turns and emergency maneuvers. Cadillac says that while all-wheel STS sedans weigh and cost more than standard models, for some drivers it's a reasonable tradeoff. "It depends on the driver's priorities," says Cadillac spokesman Dave Caldwell.<p>All-wheel-drive cars were long a hard sell, in fact. In the early 1980s, American Motors Corp.'s Eagle used four-wheel-drive systems adapted from the company's Jeep utility vehicles, but they handled more like trucks than cars. More sophisticated systems came to market in the 1980s with labels like Volkswagen Synchro and Toyota All-Trac. But for the most part, they were curiosities, and few sold well: BMW, for one, offered all-wheel-drive cars in the U.S. in the late 1980s but quit a few years later.<p>For our trials, our drivers found the features that made them love or hate the cars often had nothing to do with turning the wheels. One thought he had broken into a full sweat when he zoomed past a police car -- but it turned out that he'd hit one of the multiple switches on the Cadillac's dash and inadvertently turned on the seat heater. Some drivers liked BMW's i-Drive system, which combines most of the car's functions in a mouse-like control pad and gives the dash an uncluttered look. Others thought it made a hassle of even changing radio stations.<p>Here are our results, including what we liked, what we didn't, and how each car fared on slick ice.<p>Audi A6 3.2 Quattro<p>$43,970<p>NICE TOUCH: Handsome, modern exterior<p>ICE TOUCH: Traveled 60 feet in 6.25 seconds on the rink -- the best of the bunch.<p>LEFT US COLD: Felt clumsy, compared with BMW and Mercedes, in rush-hour cut-and-thrust driving.<p>Audi pioneered AWD marketing as far back as the early 1980s with its Quattro designs. All-wheel drive had helped the German company set speed records and powered it to the top of the international rally circuit. But on the street, the drive system and other parts of the cars often broke.<p>Now, with 25 years of experience, Audi seems to have it right. Electronic traction and stability controls allow the wheels to spin a little bit, which helps on the ice. Still, Quattro's main disadvantage is extra weight: The A6 weighs nearly 4,000 pounds -- 250 more than Mercedes' E350 4Matic and 286 more than BMW's 530xi, as noticeable as carrying a couple of extra passengers.</I> <p><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Verdegrrl at 10:34 AM 9/26/2005</i>

Verdegrrl
09-25-2005, 12:07 PM
(WSJ continued)<p> <I>BMW 530xi<p>$49,000<p>NICE TOUCH: Our road favorite, nimble and lively.<p>ICE TOUCH: Rear wheels spun on ice.<p>LEFT US COLD: With joystick-style i-Drive, even adjusting the air-conditioning can be a multistep process.<p>BMW's U.S. sales have more than tripled in the past 10 years to nearly 300,000 vehicles -- the No. 1 European auto brand in the U.S. -- in part because it has been quick to respond to market demands. When two-seat convertibles took off, it rolled out the Z3. As luxury-SUVs gained steam, it built the X5. Now the company has installed "xDrive," first found in the company's SUVs, in the medium-size 5-Series sedan. The technology has gotten cheaper: Back in the late 1980s, BMW's all-wheel 325 sedan sold for 15% to 21% more than the two-wheel-drive version. The new 530xi costs an extra $2,200, or 4.7% more than a standard 530i.<p>Unlike the Audi, which sends power equally to front and rear wheels, the BMW's "torque split" is 60-40 -- meaning it sends 60% to the rear wheels and 40% to the front. That gave the car a more traditional rear-wheel-drive feel, and our panelists liked driving this one the most. (They also liked its seats' adjustable thigh support, its easy-to-use navigation screen and its fighter-jet-style display that projected speed information onto the windshield just above the dash.) The trade-off: Out on the slick ice of Northford Ice Pavilion's "Red" rink, the extra power to the rear made the wheels spin, making the BMW feel the least steady of the models we tested.<p>Cadillac STS4<p>$60,160<p>NICE TOUCH: Unique, angular body looks, well, American.<p>ICE TOUCH: With the most power (320 horses) and most weight, it skidded to mid-pack performance.<p>LEFT US COLD: Chopped-roof styling results in big blind spots.<p>In the late 1990s, Cadillac decided that to compete with European sport sedans, it would have to switch from making front-wheel-drive cars to rear-drive models, which give a sporty feel and sharp handling many drivers like. The company joined a growing number of manufacturers rolling out rear-drive models, from Chrysler's 300 sedan to Pontiac's GTO.<p>Now, Cadillac is trying its hand at all-wheel drive. But so far, it's one of the pricier options: The $12,000-plus "luxury-performance" premium for the all-wheel-drive STS includes magnetic ride control, interior air filter, heated steering wheel, ventilated front seats (pretty nice) and satellite radio. On the road, it was the most divisive. One driver liked its size, airy ride on the straights and sharp handling in curves. But the majority gave it a thumbs-down, citing heavy steering and trouble seeing over the hood. ("It's a tank," said one 5-foot, 2-inch driver.) At 4,295 pounds, it was the heaviest in the group -- 624 pounds more than the BMW and 269 pounds heavier than the rear-drive STS we drove and enjoyed late last year.<p>Lexus GS 300 AWD<p>$45,100<p>NICE TOUCH: Smoothest, quietest engine in the group.<p>ICE TOUCH: Strangely, traction control was a disadvantage: It didn't let the wheels spin at all.<p>LEFT US COLD: Chintzy cup holders, faux metal reminded us of parent company Toyota.<p>To get a feel for whether four wheels are better than two, we headed to the rink with two Lexus models -- an all-wheel-drive GS, and a rear-wheel drive version that cost $1,950 less. On the ice, the rear-drive GS was practically uncontrollable, and took 15 seconds to travel 60 feet. The all-wheel-drive GS covered the distance in about half the time, though with a bit more of the power going toward the rear; as with the BMW, its front wheels often locked under light braking while the rears kept pushing. Either way, it's far from the fastest machine on the ice. We asked rink employee Chris Ardito to hop into the Zamboni and run a few time trials. He crossed the line in 7.6 seconds, beating even the all-wheel-drive GS by a second.<p>The GS is posh, but had a few cheap points. Worst of all was a hidden panel on the left side of the steering column that houses controls for everything from the rearview mirrors and headlamp washers to the switches that open the fuel-filler door and trunk. The flip-down panel felt like more like a change drawer and annoyed us every time we had to use it.<p>Mercedes-Benz E350 4Matic<p>$52,550<p>NICE TOUCH: Easiest to look at.<p>ICE TOUCH: What ice? This car was so smooth and balanced we barely noticed it.<p>LEFT US COLD: Did Rube Goldberg design the folding cup holder?<p>Mercedes has sold all-wheel drive as an option since 1989, but only in the past two years or so has it become a major selling point. Car-buyer Jim Breslauer of Huntington, N.Y., thought it seemed worth paying the $2,500 premium for all-wheel drive -- saying it costs less than even a set of fancy wheels. "When you're spending $50,000 or more, all-wheel drive is such a small percentage of the total," he says. "It seems silly not to get it."<p>What made the E350 our winner was how little we noticed its four-wheel drive. It simply was the most easygoing for everyday driving -- only marginally less sporty than the BMW on the road, and superior on ice. It had enough power but not too much, sounded good without being noisy and handled predictably without being boring. Inside, large windows and surprisingly narrow roof pillars gave the cockpit the most open and airy feeling of all. All of the test cars were fine to drive for a few hours, but we felt like we could drive the Mercedes comfortably for days, and this was the set of keys our testers fought over.<p> Jonathan Welsh answers your questions about automobiles in "Me and My Car" a column appearing in Personal Journal. Write to mecar@wsj.com1.</I><p>

gone with the wind
09-26-2005, 04:46 AM
<b>Audi TTS 2.5 TSI Quattro.</b><br><A HREF="http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/1058/auditts25tsiquattro6op.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><b>Picture.</b></A><p>wfg, Hans.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Iceman at 1:39 PM 10/14/2005</i>

gone with the wind
10-01-2005, 04:51 PM
Audi TTS 2.5 TSI Quattro 5 cylinder Twincharger engine layout.<p><A HREF="http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/7230/audi25tsi6wc.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><b>Picture.</b></A><p>wfg, Hans.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Iceman at 1:41 PM 10/14/2005</i>

Omar
10-02-2005, 01:15 PM
are the last 2 images official??<p>can you please clarify the source

sanbar778
10-02-2005, 02:19 PM
I'm sorry but when is this supposed to be unveiled?

LEXUS FAN!
10-02-2005, 04:45 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>omar</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are the last 2 images official??<p>can you please clarify the source</TD></TR></TABLE><p>which images?<p>i don't see any type of official material

Redline
10-02-2005, 05:21 PM
They look fairly official, either that or someone has too much free time on their hands. If those are from Audi and that is a sketch of the final design then I don't like it. They sacrificed the smooth and handsome looks of the TT for a more aggressive style. It still looks good, but not in the TT good way. Plus that engine is a beast, which isn't very TT like. They can go a different way with this car if they want, but I won't follow. If those are real then I don't like this.

AU297
10-02-2005, 09:03 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>omar</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">are the last 2 images official??<p>can you please clarify the source</TD></TR></TABLE><p>No they aren't. The sketch is a modified A3 Sportback concept drawing. The Turbo diagram isn't official either... Quite obvious.

husseindesign
10-03-2005, 03:27 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Iceman</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><b>Audi TTS 2.5 TSI Quattro.</b><br><IMG SRC="http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/1058/auditts25tsiquattro6op.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>wfg, Hans.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Nise attempt Iceman, but try to give the roof line a more curves shape like the corrent TT. It's one the TT's main charakteristics and I don't believe they'll drop it for the next generation <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

ypos
10-03-2005, 08:31 AM
Hello everybody <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/driver.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I'm agree with hussein, I think so too.... <p><IMG SRC="http://pix.nofrag.com/34/37/e662496c0e1709e840e5708f2376.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>The first sketch is an official Audi sketch for the Sportback presentation <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

gone with the wind
10-03-2005, 01:26 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>husseindesign</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Nise attempt Iceman, but try to give the roof line a more curves shape like the corrent TT. It's one the TT's main charakteristics and I don't believe they'll drop it for the next generation <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><br>Maybe, but i like it the way it is.<br>Personally i hope the TT successor will be called A3 Coupe' and the TT name <br>will be connected to the production version of the "Le Mans Quattro" sportcar.<p>wfg, Hans.<br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Iceman at 3:21 PM 10/3/2005</i>

knicks125
10-06-2005, 05:35 PM
FYI - 2006 TT (US) does not meet the (California) emission standards. As a result, those states with the above standards adopted will not have them available.

Naga Royal Guard
10-06-2005, 06:27 PM
yeah, that was reported a few months ago; kinda odd i guess

jlaidler
10-12-2005, 12:46 AM
<A HREF="http://forums.autoweek.com/servlet/JiveServlet/download/31-21711-484234-20023/shootingbrake.jpg" TARGET="_blank">link to concept pic</A> <br>Tokyo Concept <br>Probably a shooting brake version of the actual TT

ypos
10-12-2005, 09:46 AM
These are shops I made, with the concept car Shooting Brake by Audi <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"><p>The roadster for beginning<p><IMG SRC="http://pix.nofrag.com/54/04/da6f4d2bd11f28c61ebe417eb08a.jpg" BORDER="0">

ypos
10-12-2005, 09:47 AM
And the coupe :)<p><IMG SRC="http://pix.nofrag.com/f9/0f/598a2b5a9af7ab8bdc3dbc4f2dbc.jpg" BORDER="0">

ypos
10-12-2005, 09:49 AM
Behind...<p><IMG SRC="http://pix.nofrag.com/bc/65/13b82c39fb7d7cc2294539da443c.jpg" BORDER="0">

ypos
10-12-2005, 09:50 AM
<IMG SRC="http://pix.nofrag.com/d0/c5/64670bce2a824d45bfd700b36220.jpg" BORDER="0">

ypos
10-12-2005, 09:50 AM
Wait and see <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

CosworthKid
10-12-2005, 10:25 AM
Well i like the coupe, at least it stays true to the original TT design unlike most cg's we've seen over the last months,clearly an evolutionary design..why the different grill treatments between roadster and coupe though??dont like where the Audi badge sits on the roadster. AutoExpress has pics of what is called the Shooting Brake concept here <p><A HREF="http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/60893/new_audi_tt.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/n....html</A><p>...that looks more radical in its approach than these two and seems like a direct competitor to the Z4 Coupe and upcoming SLK spin-off

ypos
10-12-2005, 10:45 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CosworthKid</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why the different grill treatments between roadster and coupe though?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It's just for trying....... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Me, I prefer the grill of my coupe shop, but I think my shop of the roadster with the logo on top will be probably more right, like reality (excuse my bad english...)<p>But for the production, sure that coupe and roadster will have the same face, with the same grill treatment...

ypos
10-12-2005, 10:57 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ypos</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">... but I think my shop of the roadster with the logo on top will be probably more right, like reality (excuse my bad english...)<br>.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>My analysis of the show car shooting brake...<p><IMG SRC="http://pix.nofrag.com/63/e4/004d91615191a3bd9e61ec701d98.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>We can devine two lines horizontals on this grill........ so I think this is the place of the future immatriculation for the production....<p>Like that for exemple <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://pix.nofrag.com/5e/e6/7c61b7757c18da269913b8e0ea45.jpg" BORDER="0"><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by ypos at 11:08 AM 10/12/2005</i>

protocatcher
10-12-2005, 11:13 AM
The Audi logo , the rings , will be in the grill.

Santeno
10-12-2005, 11:57 AM
Ypos please do not post your chops here. post them in the photoshops section. let's try and keep this area only for onedited photographs (as much as possible).

CosworthKid
10-12-2005, 12:47 PM
When looking at it straight at the front it kinda looks like a Ford Focus MK2!!!Look at the headlamps and bonnet line..surely i must be wrong..right?

Ascariss
10-12-2005, 05:30 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Santeno</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ypos please do not post your chops here. post them in the photoshops section. let's try and keep this area only for onedited photographs (as much as possible).</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Chops maybe, but I like the analysis part.

Ascariss
10-12-2005, 05:47 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>protocatcher</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Audi logo , the rings , will be in the grill. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yup, that is right. It isn't as wide as well, it's also a bit taller. The fender flares are played down a bit in the production car as well. Mirrors are close, but do not have a sharp point at the tip.

AU297
10-13-2005, 01:09 AM
Hmmm... I like this one better: <IMG SRC="http://images14.fotki.com/v218/photos/2/229737/2742502/2007AUDITT-vi.jpg" BORDER="0">

Gian86
10-13-2005, 02:56 AM
Is ur chop pics is ur idea, i love it. Nice job. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

ypos
10-13-2005, 03:06 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Santeno</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ypos please do not post your chops here. post them in the photoshops section. let's try and keep this area only for onedited photographs (as much as possible).</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Ok <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Netherless, for the last shop (good job), I don't think there is the little window (I don't know how we say that in english) on the new TT..<br>Illustration..<p><IMG SRC="http://pix.nofrag.com/75/be/8d21e86dca35582f28d81348aeda.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><br>Look the photospy of the TTR...<p><A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/gallery/9893_SHDKRKXWGELYB.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co...B.jpg</A><p><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Ascariss at 7:10 AM 10/13/2005</i>

ypos
10-13-2005, 04:15 AM
A last shop for illustrate my opinion <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://pix.nofrag.com/1a/f4/2cc354f517fc9961c64a667a89cb.jpg" BORDER="0"><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by ypos at 4:55 AM 10/13/2005</i>

Ascariss
10-13-2005, 07:10 AM
The rings are on the grill trust me, TCC doesn't have the front pic which is kind of annoying.

Naga Royal Guard
10-13-2005, 07:59 AM
what <i> does</i> TCC have, lol

gone with the wind
10-13-2005, 08:18 AM
<b>Audi have confirmed that the headlights and SFGrill are specialy designed for Tokio.<br>They will change on the production TT.</b><p>wfg, Hans.

ypos
10-13-2005, 08:23 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Ascariss</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The rings are on the grill trust me</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Ok... better like that ? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://pix.nofrag.com/8a/b8/53954959595feda31b117be3356d.jpg" BORDER="0">

AU297
10-13-2005, 09:35 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ypos</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Ok <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Netherless, for the last shop (good job), I don't think there is the little window (I don't know how we say that in english) on the new TT..<br>Illustration..<p><IMG SRC="http://pix.nofrag.com/75/be/8d21e86dca35582f28d81348aeda.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><br>Look the photospy of the TTR...<p><A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/gallery/9893_SHDKRKXWGELYB.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co...B.jpg</A><p><br><i>Modified by Ascariss at 7:10 AM 10/13/2005</i></TD></TR></TABLE><br>Yeah I noticed the window thing after I posted it... That's what happens when you do stuff in the whee hours.

ypos
10-13-2005, 09:43 AM
Yes it's true.... I do the same with my first shop of the TTR <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"><br>(no posted in this forum..)

phi
10-13-2005, 11:47 AM
<IMG SRC="http://pix.nofrag.com/5e/e6/7c61b7757c18da269913b8e0ea45.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>Could possibly someone put the 4 rings beneath the "audi new tt" sign?

LEXUS FAN!
10-13-2005, 04:17 PM
i don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but...<p>has anyone noticied that the headlights look very similar to those of the LF-C concept<p><A HREF="http://www.lexus.com/about/concept/lf-c_gallery_exterior_photos.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.lexus.com/about/con....html</A><p>it's just interesting

autodanse
10-13-2005, 05:11 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>LEXUS FAN!</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but...<p>has anyone noticied that the headlights look very similar to those of the LF-C concept<p><A HREF="http://www.lexus.com/about/concept/lf-c_gallery_exterior_photos.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.lexus.com/about/con....html</A><p>it's just interesting</TD></TR></TABLE><p>there is a similarity, but the front of the TT concept is pretty much derived from the futuristic RSQ concept:<p><IMG SRC="http://mag.cyberpunk.ru/upload/images/concept_car_audi-rsq_01.jpg" BORDER="0">

CosworthKid
10-13-2005, 07:14 PM
A lot of new cars have similar headlamp and bonnet treatments, from the new Focus to the KIA suv

ypos
10-14-2005, 07:03 AM
I made a new shops, bigger and best quality, of the back of the futur TT coupe (my analysis)<p>Will I post them here or not ?<p>(I know there is a photoshop section, and I have posted them there..... <br>But I think this is the subject here too, and we see a lot of shops of magazine here -which are not always very good-... <br>So I'm wainting for an answer of administrator or moderator, thanks <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> )

AM2K
10-14-2005, 11:17 AM
Post them in the photoshop area of the forum, and then put a link to the new photoshop thread on here if you like. Keeps things nice and tidy <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0">

Ascariss
10-14-2005, 12:00 PM
Note to anyone who uses spy pics in analysis, post them as links, not images. Same goes if you draw on a spy photo to illustrate a point, do not post them as pics even though I am sure you will be rehosting them.<p>Analysis goes here like am2k said.

ypos
10-20-2005, 06:03 AM
Ok Ascariss <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Like that, is it good ?<p><A HREF="http://pix.nofrag.com/8a/b8/53954959595feda31b117be3356d.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://pix.nofrag.com/8a/b8/53...d.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://pix.nofrag.com/a0/16/67cbab4f6764348fe53307921e5c.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://pix.nofrag.com/a0/16/67...c.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://pix.nofrag.com/69/ce/65660ff8326894ed9c3f9f6167f7.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://pix.nofrag.com/69/ce/65...7.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://pix.nofrag.com/ad/4b/e8e9addb1b8764d24f9d83ab7403.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://pix.nofrag.com/ad/4b/e8...3.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://pix.nofrag.com/84/ab/61f0b8c375eae473809eff7b10d0.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://pix.nofrag.com/84/ab/61...0.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://pix.nofrag.com/dc/09/eec416e6602ade8cd211eeec709f.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://pix.nofrag.com/dc/09/ee...f.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://pix.nofrag.com/e7/58/e17d48a060b85578492316212aa7.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://pix.nofrag.com/e7/58/e1...7.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://pix.nofrag.com/d2/3a/01dc4c9274f673af2c8d24f11e51.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://pix.nofrag.com/d2/3a/01...1.jpg</A><br>

ypos
10-20-2005, 06:05 AM
<A HREF="http://pix.nofrag.com/58/57/88a0786ef68bae2302ad15908ee4.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://pix.nofrag.com/58/57/88...4.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://pix.nofrag.com/5d/b9/296f0ceb734e1dd45e0d8b86e3aa.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://pix.nofrag.com/5d/b9/29...a.jpg</A>

ROCKETMAN
10-20-2005, 01:01 PM
Very nice chops. I like teh second pic with the small kink in the headlights.

drugmirko
11-04-2005, 04:05 AM
and those chops might be realy close:<p><A HREF="http://info.detnews.com/autosinsider/sneakpeek/index.cfm?id=21039" TARGET="_blank">http://info.detnews.com/autosi...21039</A>

protocatcher
11-04-2005, 09:05 AM
The pic at Detnews is no chop...its a real pic .

Blob
11-04-2005, 01:54 PM
that pic pretty much confirms that the audi logo will be on the grille.

gone with the wind
11-05-2005, 12:14 PM
<IMG SRC="http://www.audiforum.nl/phpBB2/files/tt_mk2_coupe__873.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><b>"Autozeitung" scan.</b><p>wfg, Hans.

CosworthKid
11-05-2005, 12:21 PM
Still dont like the headlights, too ordinary looking i reckon, reminds me of the Ford Focus Mk2, and whats with that grill on that red TT???If its that big and the logo stays on bonnet without anything running through the grill..just seems like a bad unsolved design issue

ndjan
11-05-2005, 12:56 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CosworthKid</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Still dont like the headlights, too ordinary looking i reckon, reminds me of the Ford Focus Mk2, and whats with that grill on that red TT???If its that big and the logo stays on bonnet without anything running through the grill..just seems like a bad unsolved design issue</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The spy shots make the headlights look upswept from the bottom, roughly the shape of the bottom half of a circle

Ascariss
11-05-2005, 01:34 PM
Autozeitung's front is mostly if not all wrong.

synthesis
11-05-2005, 06:08 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CosworthKid</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Still dont like the headlights, too ordinary looking i reckon, reminds me of the Ford Focus Mk2, and whats with that grill on that red TT???If its that big and the logo stays on bonnet without anything running through the grill..just seems like a bad unsolved design issue</TD></TR></TABLE><p>don't worry, as Ascarris and ndjan pointed out, that chop is all wrong. The spy shot really does show quite a bit of detail. <p>The headlights sweep up at the bottom, the top portion of the grille is rounded on the sides (not pointy as in the red chop), the logo IS in the grille, and there is a section of bumper dividing the upper and lower grilles (as on every other audi) with the lower section being thinner than the upper. <p>It also looks to me like there will be some sort of splitter in the lower venting (possibly housing the fog lights), and hard lines coming off the hood and bordering the grille down to the bottom of the fascia. <p>It appears that this spy shot is of the cabrio, but I would love to see how Audi will design the coupe, and if they will go ahead with some sort of shooting brake.

CosworthKid
11-05-2005, 07:15 PM
I really do hope so guys, cause even the concept pics looked kinda odd if i remember correctly. You know, its funny how i always wished cars would always change dramatically so that they looked ahead of their time with every new generation...but lately its been like total chaos with the current car designs and my heart keeps racing every time a top model like the TT is to be replaced, hoping for something elegant and sporty and not too cartoony or weird. Hope this TT looks as stunning like the Mk1 looked when it came out.

gone with the wind
12-01-2005, 04:00 PM
<IMG SRC="http://media.autobild.de/bild/3/78b768c3fd73014189f4b60530f97493_1.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>wfg, Hans.

knihc2008
12-01-2005, 04:08 PM
matches the detnews spyshot exactly. lookin' goood.

gone with the wind
12-02-2005, 03:05 PM
<IMG SRC="http://www.tt-forum.co.uk/images/ttautobild.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>wfg, Hans.

against the wall
12-02-2005, 03:08 PM
iceman is that legit?

gone with the wind
12-03-2005, 10:27 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>yanksrule26</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">iceman is that legit?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>What is ???<p>wfg, Hans.

gone with the wind
12-03-2005, 10:35 AM
<IMG SRC="http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/7338/imgp12782mn.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/1550/imgp12779ss.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>wfg, Hans.

SELLER
12-03-2005, 04:08 PM
Will it not have the exact rear end of the Shooting Brake (minus the hatch)? I'll be disappointed if it doesnt.<p>The rear of that Red chop looks terrible.. Put the Shooting Brake rear on that red cars front.. then you got a hot TT.

against the wall
12-03-2005, 05:03 PM
iceman i meant the photos you posted, is that what it is going to look like?

knicks125
12-03-2005, 05:32 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>yanksrule26</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">iceman i meant the photos you posted, is that what it is going to look like?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I believe those are autobild (car mag) cover page. And a few posts down, it contains two photos of the inside details of the magazine coverage on the TT.

knihc2008
12-03-2005, 07:37 PM
is the gray car.. is that a spy pic? do i see a VW badge on the back or am i imagining things..<p>the gray car looks so much unsexier than the red car.. and if the TT is supposed to look like any of these i'd dare say it's lost its magic.

against the wall
12-03-2005, 07:55 PM
if that gray one is a spyshot then maybe it has that fakey logo that audi had on the q7 for the longest time.

Chicho
12-07-2005, 04:33 AM
<A HREF="http://www.autobild.de/projektor/galerie.php?pos=10&artikel_id=10265" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autobild.de/projekt...10265</A><p><A HREF="http://www.autobild.de/projektor/galerie.php?pos=11&artikel_id=10265" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autobild.de/projekt...10265</A>

CosworthKid
12-07-2005, 08:32 AM
I always liked the AutoBild renderings of the TT. I hope it looks more like that rather than an exact replica of the concept car.

ROCKETMAN
12-07-2005, 11:18 AM
So when is it that were gonna see the car, or pre-production version??

gone with the wind
12-08-2005, 12:12 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ROCKETMAN</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So when is it that were gonna see the car, or pre-production version??</TD></TR></TABLE><br>On the Autosalon of Geneva 2006.<p>wfg, Hans.

Comrade
12-08-2005, 12:20 PM
and that's March right?

gone with the wind
12-08-2005, 02:59 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>comrade</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and that's March right?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Right March.

Porsche
12-14-2005, 09:27 PM
is this the new 2007 TT?<br> <IMG SRC="http://www.geocities.com/gts_phs/TT.JPG" BORDER="0">

ROCKETMAN
12-14-2005, 10:02 PM
Thats the Shooting Break concept. It is said that it exemplifies some styling that will be on the next TT.

gone with the wind
12-15-2005, 09:44 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>yanksrule26</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">iceman i meant the photos you posted, is that what it is going to look like?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Not for 100% but close.<br>The exact shape of the headlights are stil a question mark.<p>wfg, Hans.

velsatis
12-15-2005, 10:39 AM
It looks like a facelift rather than a new car for me (overal shape is...the same???).....well the front is ok, but the back <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> .Anyway to much the same, was expecting more than this.....presuming that these pics are close to the final product

gone with the wind
12-15-2005, 12:54 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>velsatis</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It looks like a facelift rather than a new car for me (overal shape is...the same???).....well the front is ok, but the back <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> .Anyway to much the same, was expecting more than this.....presuming that these pics are close to the final product</TD></TR></TABLE><br>German Autobild/Huckfeldt are allways very close to the real product with there shops.<p>wfg, Hans.

DSC-OFF
12-26-2005, 07:56 PM
revised version of the same yellow chop from a while back<p><IMG SRC="http://media.autobild.de/bild/D/c5a1401f9adb9ed9a8589677a019a6bd_1.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Autobild<br> <br>

against the wall
12-26-2005, 08:45 PM
why is there an audi s-line logo on a tt?

gone with the wind
01-10-2006, 06:46 AM
Audi TT Testmule or MK2. ???<p><A HREF="http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-1/1131684/DSC10133.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img.villagephotos.com/p...3.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2006-1/1131684/DSC10136.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img.villagephotos.com/p...6.jpg</A><p>wfg, Hans.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by knicks125 at 10:20 AM 1/10/2006</i>

carbon
01-23-2006, 05:09 AM
<A HREF="http://www.germancarfans.com/SpyPhotos/6060123.001/6060123.001.mini3L.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.germancarfans.com/S...L.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.germancarfans.com/SpyPhotos/6060123.001/6060123.001.mini10L.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.germancarfans.com/S...L.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.germancarfans.com/SpyPhotos/6060123.001/6060123.001.mini13L.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.germancarfans.com/S...L.jpg</A><p>more of them<br><A HREF="http://www.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos.cfm/spyphotoid/6060123.001/audi/1.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.worldcarfans.com/sp....html</A>

erzhik
01-23-2006, 06:19 AM
these are photoshops right?

Comrade
01-23-2006, 09:03 AM
I don't think anyone would do 16 chops of one car. <p>They haven't changed a thing beside the headlights. Weight distribution on this car is probably about 70/30 front/rear. I'm very dissapointed <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0">

Don Carleone
01-23-2006, 09:32 AM
Oh Boy, that's the real McCoy - you better believe it! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/drink.gif" BORDER="0">

husseindesign
01-23-2006, 10:04 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Comrade</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They haven't changed a thing beside the headlights. Weight distribution on this car is probably about 70/30 front/rear. I'm very dissapointed <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><br>What about the grill? it makes a huge difference in the front.

PHYMB
01-23-2006, 10:07 AM
I am not really liking it. I have no problem with it being similair to the current generation, but I think the design is too sharp in the front to match with the bubbly design in the back.... I wonder if the grill will be big or split... It should be big, and I am guessing that is camo.

SHEPO
01-23-2006, 12:16 PM
idk kinda bland looking...its like a really hot model who hasn't aged too well. ill have to wait for the final production version to make actual judgements...

against the wall
01-23-2006, 01:54 PM
<IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/sleep.gif" BORDER="0">

Poledancer
01-23-2006, 02:02 PM
For some reason the curvier flanks make the new TT seem even more cab-forward than before (the low-positioned door handles and heavy-looking wing mirrors don't help either). If the front is indeed overstyled compared to the back, this could indeed ruin the proportions. <p>Plus, I am really disappointed they are using these eagle-like front lamps - would have preferred the mean-looking lamps from the Auto Bild chop a whole lot more!

Mil
01-23-2006, 02:48 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Poledancer</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>...plus, I am really disappointed they are using these eagle-like front lamps - would have preferred the mean-looking lamps from the Auto Bild chop a whole lot more!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I agree, i never expected the lamps to be like that, but maybe it will look good with camo on... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/images/smilies/sponge.gif" BORDER="0">

phaeton
01-23-2006, 03:19 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>carbon</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">more of them<br><A HREF="http://www.worldcarfans.com/spyphotos.cfm/spyphotoid/6060123.001/audi/1.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.worldcarfans.com/sp....html</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p><br>Thanks <B>Carbon</B> <br>I like the look of this, its taking cues from the Nuvolari Concept which I liked <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

LEXUS FAN!
01-23-2006, 05:31 PM
the taillights look disproporational<p>i wish they would have changed it a little more

Kemble
01-23-2006, 06:24 PM
the taillights actually look life they've got some tape still on them(like the front). the style should flow into the trunk much like the A4.

T.B.
01-23-2006, 06:41 PM
The car will look like TT Shooting Brake Concept - only with more convetional headlight reflectors (shape will be Concept-like), more production-like air intake, and typical Audi trapezoid grill - not the Concept-like. Rearlights will be identical to Concept. Roof, C-pilllar, and boot lid will be different - look spy pics.<p>Something like this:<p><IMG SRC="http://pix.nofrag.com/f9/0f/598a2b5a9af7ab8bdc3dbc4f2dbc.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://pix.nofrag.com/bc/65/13b82c39fb7d7cc2294539da443c.jpg" BORDER="0">

DoMiNo
01-23-2006, 07:27 PM
Now <I>that's</I> what I'd call a subtle evolution. But hey, why mess with a good thing, I guess... <p>I'm teetering between loving this car for maintaining the essence of the old TT that made it so great in the first place; and hating it because it hasn't changed enough. Somebody help me!!!

conan
01-23-2006, 09:08 PM
I'm slightly disappointed with the rear and the profile, it's now more like a hatchback than Mk1's unique coupe profile. I guess the upgrade to true 2+2 has its consequence. With a shooting brake variant is on the cards, I'd much prefer Audi made the coupe 'as coupe as possible'..<br>Anyway, the front is gorgeous.

phlarzian
01-24-2006, 01:10 AM
Mmmm, as I thought ... the shootingbrake concept was a bit of a preview to the next TT. S and RS versions would probably be awesome! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

gone with the wind
01-24-2006, 05:01 AM
<A HREF="http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/1281/audittmk2spyshotsnow6iv.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img63.imageshack.us/img...v.jpg</A><br><b>Upgrade.</b><p>wfg, Hans.<br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Iceman at 4:57 AM 1/26/2006</i>

Paul2006
01-24-2006, 06:50 AM
I like that alright. The front styling is nice, but the sharper front styling looks slightly in conflict with the more curvaceous rear.<p>Having said that I am really liking Audi's new design language. Cannot wait for the awesome looking <I>R8</I>...

MadMac
01-26-2006, 01:51 AM
Looks nice with the Singleframe, good work Hans.<p>Not as genuine as the old one when it came out, but better than I ecpected from the first renderings.

ypos
01-26-2006, 09:36 AM
Here is mine <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://pix.nofrag.com/b3/f4/699190d29463d6235f633f080ad8.jpg" BORDER="0"><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by ypos at 8:25 AM 1/29/2006</i>

LEXUS FAN!
01-26-2006, 02:07 PM
both chops look very accurate

gone with the wind
01-26-2006, 04:13 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ypos</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here is mine <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE><br>Whe think alike. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>wfg, Hans.

gabbby
01-27-2006, 08:38 AM
This mine. Hello Ypos !<p>Gaby<p><IMG SRC="http://www.z-oxyde.com/downloads/TT-Shop-2.jpg" BORDER="0">

velsatis
01-28-2006, 08:44 AM
<A HREF="http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1/vel_satis/TT7.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i32.photobucket.com/alb...7.jpg</A> <br><A HREF="http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1/vel_satis/TT6.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i32.photobucket.com/alb...6.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1/vel_satis/TT5.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i32.photobucket.com/alb...5.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1/vel_satis/TT4.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i32.photobucket.com/alb...4.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1/vel_satis/TT3.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i32.photobucket.com/alb...3.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1/vel_satis/TT2.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i32.photobucket.com/alb...2.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1/vel_satis/TT1.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i32.photobucket.com/alb...1.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1/vel_satis/TT.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://i32.photobucket.com/alb...T.jpg</A><br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by knicks125 at 1:50 AM 1/30/2006</i>

mzoltarp
01-28-2006, 09:18 AM
the nose looks too long, but overall not bad

HXC Performance
02-20-2006, 10:29 PM
Just 8 Days away from its "Official" Debut and STILL no Leaked photos.. What the hell..

Soobyfreak
02-21-2006, 08:41 AM
do you think that they might realease an S or RS version of the tt. when i had one i always felt that it lacked power and i did not want to tune it my self.<p>

gone with the wind
02-21-2006, 02:56 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Soobyfreak</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do you think that they might realease an S or RS version of the tt. when i had one i always felt that it lacked power and i did not want to tune it my self.<br> </TD></TR></TABLE><br>There will be a TTS version come out in time with a 300+ hp engine.<p>wfg, Hans.

SHEPO
02-21-2006, 03:32 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>RunningOfTheRings</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just 8 Days away from its "Official" Debut and STILL no Leaked photos.. What the hell..</TD></TR></TABLE><p>They'll probably surface 1-2 days before Geneva; that's usually what happens before major debuts occur, unless the company is really good about keeping it confidential. Audi has actually been pretty good, especially with the Q7 and facelifted A4, so who knows?

against the wall
02-21-2006, 04:26 PM
they showed the q7 (officially) little by little on that q7globe site. but they also had some official spyshots. so i dont think the q7 could be qualified as well under wraps. plus all the spyshots had like no camo.

Soobyfreak
02-21-2006, 08:14 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Iceman</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>There will be a TTS version come out in time with a 300+ hp engine.<p>wfg, Hans.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>they said that with the previous model but it never happened. yoou had to buy the expensive AbT kit.<br>

Blob
02-22-2006, 04:22 AM
so is the tt going to be unvieled at Geneva

TitanSteel
02-22-2006, 07:46 AM
Although it looks good, I feel kindda disappointed. I wanted to see more scaled-down Nuvolari than the newly revealed Shooting-Brake or Roadjet.

HXC Performance
02-22-2006, 03:21 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Soobyfreak</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>they said that with the previous model but it never happened. yoou had to buy the expensive AbT kit.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Or you could buy the very inexpensive APR Chip which on the new VW GTI 2.0T puts out 252hp/300tq... all for only $600, and its only a software flash, no 'hard' installs.

Porschefan
02-22-2006, 08:20 PM
The Nuvolari was gorgeous!!! I don't really have a problem with any of the TT-esque concepts, but Nuvolari was excellent.

Paul2006
02-23-2006, 08:17 AM
I agree completely. The Nuvolari was a fantsatic looking machine. I read an interview with an Audi high-flyer, I think it was in Top Gear, who said that it is a very strong hint as to what the 'A4 Coupe' will look like.<p>Is the A4 Coupe going to be known as the A5 or is that something else altogether?

gone with the wind
02-23-2006, 09:31 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Paul2006</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is the A4 Coupe going to be known as the A5 or is that something else altogether?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>At the moment it is called "B8 Coupe" and can become the A5 Coupe.<br>It will be base on technic of the "Roadjet Concept"<p>wfg, Hans.

AU297
03-06-2006, 08:38 PM
Mk2 TT set for debut @ Berlin Motorfest... End of secrecy is April this year. R8 end of secrecy is set for September this year.

against the wall
03-06-2006, 08:45 PM
so r8 is set for paris?

LEXUS FAN!
03-06-2006, 09:39 PM
what is the source of the berlin show premiere?

RikfromBelgium
03-07-2006, 12:33 AM
than why has audi opened a section for the TT on their site saying they will show the car 8th of march

deveraux
03-07-2006, 03:23 AM
@Rik<br>can you link this section fot the TT??

RikfromBelgium
03-07-2006, 10:56 AM
<A HREF="http://www.audi.com/audi/com/en1/company/news/website_news.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.audi.com/audi/com/e....html</A>

AU297
03-07-2006, 11:50 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>RikfromBelgium</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">than why has audi opened a section for the TT on their site saying they will show the car 8th of march </TD></TR></TABLE><br>This is a similiar forum that they did with the Q7. They are going to tease the public until the final release at the Berlin Motorfest.<br>I wouldn't question my source as he has been involved with the creation process from ground up!<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by AU297 at 7:42 PM 3/7/2006</i>

deveraux
03-07-2006, 02:07 PM
here is the direct link<p><A HREF="http://microsites.audi.com/auditt-lounge/html/flash.php" TARGET="_blank">http://microsites.audi.com/aud...h.php</A><p>on the right side the front of the car appears, same style as Q7 online-presentation<br>at april 6th the car will be presented

AU297
03-07-2006, 02:19 PM
Ignore the link for now and look at this instead!<br><IMG SRC="http://images16.fotki.com/v277/photos/2/229737/2202660/newtt-vi.jpg" BORDER="0">

kuules
03-07-2006, 02:24 PM
Here is mine:<p><IMG SRC="http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/3674/44yn.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by kuules at 11:54 PM 3/7/2006</i>

Konstantinos
03-07-2006, 05:25 PM
Found these info in <A HREF="http://www.audittclub.it" TARGET="_blank">http://www.audittclub.it</A>. <br>2.0 l TFSI 200 cv 241 Km/h<br>3.2 l V6 quattro 260 cv 250 Km/h (limited). <p><A HREF="http://www.audittclub.it/immagini3/TT_Mk2_Data_sheet.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.audittclub.it/immag...t.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.audittclub.it/immagini3/Audi_TTC.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.audittclub.it/immagini3/Audi_TTC.jpg</A><br>

enit
03-07-2006, 06:23 PM
According to the counter on the Audi TT promotional site the car will be premiered on April 7.<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/banana.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by enit at 2:37 AM 3/8/2006</i>

knihc2008
03-07-2006, 09:34 PM
where is that picture taken?

HXC Performance
03-07-2006, 10:53 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Konstantinos</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Found these info in <A HREF="http://www.audittclub.it" TARGET="_blank">http://www.audittclub.it</A>. <br>2.0 l TFSI 200 cv 241 Km/h<br>3.2 l V6 quattro 260 cv 250 Km/h (limited). <p><A HREF="http://www.audittclub.it/immagini3/TT_Mk2_Data_sheet.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.audittclub.it/immag...t.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.audittclub.it/immagini3/Audi_TTC.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.audittclub.it/immagini3/Audi_TTC.jpg</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p>If thats true... What the hell is going on with the new 3.6 VR6... I thought the TT along with all the new US VW's (Golf/Jetta) would get the 3.6 out of the Passat.<p>Hopefully a 300hp+ 3.6 VR6 will make its way into an "S-TT"<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by RunningOfTheRings at 12:04 AM 3/8/2006</i>

HXC Performance
03-07-2006, 11:18 PM
<IMG SRC="http://www.audittclub.it/immagini3/TT2.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://www.fourtitude.com/gallery/generated//Audi/Studies/Shooting%20Brake/003__scaled_600.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p>Looks like only 2 center "pods" on the real car.

LEXUS FAN!
03-07-2006, 11:28 PM
is that really the interior?...it looks very conceptish

Superfresa
03-07-2006, 11:49 PM
Can't be. See how far infront the gear lever is from the front of the seat? Think about it, if you seat properly, how is anyone with arms any shorter than two meters going to reach the gear lever? It should be a little further back than what your knees are...<p>For that single reason, this pic doesn't look right... but I suppose it could just be more seat travell (front to back) than anyone could ever need, or just the worst ergonomics since the first Kenworths whose drivers needed helpers to change the gears and press the switches.

Omar
03-08-2006, 05:56 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>LEXUS FAN!</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is that really the interior?...it looks very conceptish</TD></TR></TABLE><p>that's the interior of the concept.<p>he's comparing the concepts interior to the production interior, which you can see in the spypic above (through the rear window)

DSC-OFF
03-08-2006, 07:43 AM
Looks like <A HREF="http://www.autoexpress.co.uk" TARGET="_blank">AutoExpress</A> got the first rights to new photo syndication<p><IMG SRC="http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c306/ef0ne2/frjrhjhrnjj.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><A HREF="http://www.autoexpress.co.uk" TARGET="_blank">AutoExpress</A><br> <br>

DAMIAN_TT
03-08-2006, 12:11 PM
no, thats the shooting brake concept....<p><A HREF="http://groups.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=groups.groupProfile&groupID=101256666" TARGET="_blank">http://groups.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=groups.groupProfile&groupID=101256666</A>[/t]

Rossell
03-08-2006, 12:22 PM
Bit miffed over those pictures. They don't seem to be as hard edged as the Audi site promo. Maybe its just the light.<p>Either what you see in that thumbnail will be the final car. And luckily theres a dash of Le Mans in it.

DSC-OFF
03-08-2006, 03:57 PM
<IMG SRC="http://i2.tinypic.com/qzja61.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><A HREF="http://www.carscoop.blogspot.com" TARGET="_blank">CarScoop</A><br> <br>

against the wall
03-08-2006, 04:21 PM
im in love with the side profile of that sketch. it looks amazing <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0">

aphophis
03-08-2006, 04:41 PM
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enit
03-08-2006, 05:39 PM
Yeah, sketceh always look so fabtastic.<p>But the reality is this:<p><IMG SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/spyphotos/6060123.001/6060123.001.mini5L.jpg" BORDER="0">

aphophis
03-08-2006, 05:48 PM
i think that's a chop, especialy to the back