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Ascariss
12-16-2004, 10:32 PM
old thread:<br><A HREF="http://carspyshots.proboards2.com/index.cgi?board=spy&action=display&num=1054576747" TARGET="_blank">http://carspyshots.proboards2....76747</A><p>Okay, autobild's pictures, thanks to Alex Baumann, bimmerfest forums:<p><A HREF="http://bimmerfest.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=24542" TARGET="_blank">http://bimmerfest.com/forums/a...24542</A><br><A HREF="http://bimmerfest.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=24543" TARGET="_blank">http://bimmerfest.com/forums/a...24543</A><br><A HREF="http://bimmerfest.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=24541" TARGET="_blank">http://bimmerfest.com/forums/a...24541</A><p>Source: <A HREF="http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49822" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bimmerfest.com/foru...49822</A> <p><IMG SRC="http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/44199.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/44196.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/44197.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><A HREF="http://tinypic.com/1f2d" TARGET="_blank">http://tinypic.com/1f2d</A><p>M4 should have V8 SMG, all 3ers should have opeional or standard idrive. New 3.5L engine probably making 250 HP or more, maybe 270 to compete with G35C better.<p><IMG SRC="http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/56148" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/56149" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/56150" BORDER="0"><br>SOURCE: <A HREF="http://www.autobild.de" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autobild.de</A><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>SCOTT26</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>As much as it was an internal secret BMW. management confirmed internally that the replacement 3er coupe/ cabrio will be designated 4er .<p>Knowing how much the 3 means BMW will introduce the M3 sedan and more than likely a Touring model to challenge rampant C-Klasse AMG cars.<p>The coupe it is not a folding hard top but a winter hardtop . The canvas roof is a variation on the 6er fin roof - improved packaging more luggage space and less weight are benefits of this compact design.<p>The 4er shares many styling links with the Z4 such as angled surfaces and rear end with lights cut into the rear bumpers . The front features a flat wide kidney grille like the Z4 and sharply cut light units following the shape of the Z4.<p>The 4er looks nothing like the 3er this is why BMW have worked an individual design into the programme . The 6er coupe and cabrio have been a very successful programme and they want the 4er to follow the same idea. <p>The coupe will no longer be the entry model as it will have a smaller brother so it repositions itself against the CLK Mercedes-Benz.<p>Engines will come from 2.5i to top line M 4.0i V8 with 407 BHP , Diesel will come later . <br></TD></TR></TABLE><p><IMG SRC="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/B/03-large/BMW-3-series-Cabrio-02.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/B/03-large/BMW-3-series-Cabrio-03.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/B/03-large/BMW-3-series-Cabrio-04.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/B/03-large/BMW-3-series-Cabrio-05.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/B/03-large/BMW-3-series-Cabrio-06.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/spyshots/B/03-large/BMW-3-series-Cabrio-07.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>4car<p>article:<br><A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=7726" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co...=7726</A><p><A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/gallery/8654_image.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co...e.jpg</A><p>continue discussion here.<br><A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/gallery/8655_image.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co...e.jpg</A>

bm88
01-19-2005, 07:42 AM
<IMG SRC="http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/62641.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/62642.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>Source: Autobild

DoMiNo
01-19-2005, 07:20 PM
Is Chris Bangle in charge of camo treatments, too? Because DANG, Bimmer know how to make their mules look <I>ugly</I>. I mean, I realize that's the point, but wow.

RS
01-19-2005, 08:08 PM
This mule is really good looking, how is it ugly? (don't rally matter though...)<br>I especially like the rear 3/4 view of the last 2 pics - body has perfect shape.<br>The front end of the '99 3-series coupe/vert looked better than the sedan, so I'm expecting this to look better than the sedan as well, and I hope Bangle changes the rear end for the coupe and vert coz the new sedan's rear end is to <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/pukeface.gif" BORDER="0"> on.

Reppu
01-20-2005, 12:09 AM
These coupe spy pics match very well with Huckfeldt's impressions. I have few doubts that this will be the best Bangle BMW up to date (and please don't start with those 'that is easy' sort of comments).

RS
01-20-2005, 07:06 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Reppu</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">(and please don't start with those 'that is easy' sort of comments).</TD></TR></TABLE>you talkin to me? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

Reppu
01-20-2005, 07:11 AM
Not specifically. I was trying to avoid another bashing BMW contest.

DoMiNo
01-20-2005, 12:02 PM
Is this technically considered a Bangle design? Or is this post-Bangle...

Naga Royal Guard
01-20-2005, 12:04 PM
as bangled up as the zoo4

Denali
01-20-2005, 12:37 PM
looks good, bimmer really flooding the market this year

Ascariss
01-20-2005, 03:11 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>DoMiNo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is this technically considered a Bangle design? Or is this post-Bangle... </TD></TR></TABLE><p>All designs since 93 or 91 are bangle designs, that is when he as director of design for bmw. It's still all bangle now, but hooydonk runs the bmw division's design now.

DoMiNo
01-20-2005, 04:40 PM
That's what I thought... I knew Bangle was "promoted"... I was wondering if the new 3/4-series was designed before... probably so. In any event I like them both, compared with other Bimmers of late.

Santeno
02-03-2005, 09:34 AM
From today's Autocar Magazine:<p><IMG SRC="http://www.autocarmagazine.co.uk//Car/BMW/3-series/2255842150.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p><IMG SRC="http://www.autocarmagazine.co.uk//Car/BMW/3-series/2255843170.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.autocarmagazine.co.uk/Car/BMW/3-series/2255844211.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">3-SERIES COUP-CABRIO CAUGHT TESTING<p>Heres the car that many BMW sources swore the firm wouldnt build: the folding hard-top 3-series convertible. Caught undergoing night testing in Germany, this prototype shows the car to be close to production. We expect to see it unveiled in the autumn at the Frankfurt Motor Show, although the Touring estate will probably be the next variant on sale.<p>Theres no doubt that the engineering is extremely well executed, with interior space for four people and a very smooth roofline. The 3-series coup was also caught on test: its a substantial-looking car with a high rear deck.</TD></TR></TABLE><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Santeno at 11:42 AM 2/3/2005</i>

knihc2008
02-03-2005, 01:12 PM
ha! i SO called that one.

carrera4
02-04-2005, 07:48 AM
da <A HREF="http://www.motorline.cc" TARGET="_blank">http://www.motorline.cc</A><br><IMG SRC="http://box.motorline.cc/slideshow/image.asp?id=29952" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://box.motorline.cc/slideshow/image.asp?id=29953" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://box.motorline.cc/slideshow/image.asp?id=29954" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://box.motorline.cc/slideshow/image.asp?id=29955" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://box.motorline.cc/slideshow/image.asp?id=29956" BORDER="0"><br>

Ascariss
02-04-2005, 10:16 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knihc2008</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ha! i SO called that one.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Scott mentioned both were testing, and the board was deciding whether it would be finally approved.

AllodoxaphobicJay
02-04-2005, 08:53 PM
Are my eyes deceiving me, or is this a new BMW with a trunk lid whose leading edge is an extension of the car's shoulder line? Oh praise be..!

AM2K
02-05-2005, 02:12 PM
I come across this link on the net:<p><A HREF="http://retractable.free.fr/uk/cars/bmklapp.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://retractable.free.fr/uk/cars/bmklapp.htm</A><p>Shows how a BMW might have looked with a retractable metal-roof...

Hornbag
02-05-2005, 05:40 PM
I think i might wait until the 'wrapping' is pulled of this car to judge it, but if it looks like a scaled down 6 series, then bring it on BMW!<p>K, im really getting confused. Will the 3 series coupe and convertable be called 3 series or 4 series? First i hear that they will be called 4 series, then i read that the 3er name is to established, now its back to the 4? Now 3er? Arrrrrr.....

PlatForm
02-06-2005, 02:16 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hornbag_1</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think i might wait until the 'wrapping' is pulled of this car to judge it, but if it looks like a scaled down 6 series, then bring it on BMW!<p>K, im really getting confused. Will the 3 series coupe and convertable be called 3 series or 4 series? First i hear that they will be called 4 series, then i read that the 3er name is to established, now its back to the 4? Now 3er? Arrrrrr.....</TD></TR></TABLE><p><br>the 3 series coupe and convertible will be known as 4 series. but i also heard that they already planned to develop 4series that will be a medium-size coupe (probably 6-series little brother). btw,if they did it.. i think it only waste their money developed two coupe in the same market segment. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/driver.gif" BORDER="0">

scott26
02-06-2005, 12:06 PM
After many deliberation BMW have finally chosen to serialize the first folding hard top roof of BMW - Many companies which specialize in the development of such vario roofs have contributed with the engineers of the E92/3 project in find a roof that can claim BMW's core phillosophy of engineering without the heavy weight. <p>It is true that both canvas top and folding tops were developed and tested <br>and presented , The introduction of a new folding roof also overcomes a dilema for BMW . Mainly the designation of it's new models. <p>The 3er Coupe was to be known as the 4er inline with the current line up , But with the marketing problem of no M3 coupe presented a dilema .<br>By now offering two different cars the coupe will remain as 3er but the folding roof variant will be known as 4er.<p>The roof will be more cutting edge than other manufactures hard tops this is down to the weight and materials used . Which means BMW remain at the cutting edge of new technologies and materials being introduced to serialized production cars.<p>Considering the appeal of the M3 coupe - for now BMW intends to launch only an M3 coupe and later a M4 coupe/cabrio. <p>BMW will prepare the market for it s first hard top coupe/ cabrio. expect to show a concept version of the hard top at this years Frankfurt motor show.<br>

r0b
02-06-2005, 12:11 PM
Looks great!<br> <IMG SRC="http://www.geocities.com/giovanni_dee/BMW_M3.jpg" BORDER="0">

Top Secret
02-06-2005, 01:38 PM
Thanks for that scott26! Anyway, any news of an M3 sedan?

Laguna
02-07-2005, 10:36 AM
Article from Autoexpress<br>The lid has been lifted on the next-generation BMW 3-Series Cabriolet - and what a lid it is! Our spies in the current issue of Auto Express magazine have captured the world's first pictures, and the car clearly has a folding metal roof.<p>Although the current drop-top has been a huge hit - fending off competition from the Audi A4, Mercedes CLK and Saab 9-3 in the premium convertible sector - the mag's exclusive shots show how BMW aims to raise the stakes by being the first to create a coupe-cabrio. <p>Our insiders tell us that the newcomer is going to be more versatile than anything drivers have ever seen before, and it's all thanks to the forthcoming 3's spacious design. Look carefully at the mag's pictures of the CC, and you should be able to see what we mean. The novel design means the roof can be positioned in three different ways. <p>Most obviously, with the roof fully closed, the car will be a refined coupé. Owners can then slide the front panels back to create an open-topped targa. Finally, as the bootlid opens up, the whole arrangement slips gracefully down, creating a neat convertible free from any unsightly folded canvas.<p>The disguise on the prototype also attempts to hide another key feature<p>- its pillarless design. This means buyers will have the option of lowering all the side windows with the roof up to give a clean, uncluttered look.<br>The company has gone to extreme lengths to ensure that its first coupé-cabrio is a success, calling upon Ger-man engineering expert Webasto to assist with the design of the folding mechanism. The pictures clearly show that the car will remain a full four-seater yet retain a substantial boot, as this is a crucial selling point for the lucrative American market.<p>The engine line-up will be similar to the saloon's, starting with 2.0-litre petrol and diesel four-cylinder units. There will be 2.5 and 3.0-litre straight-six petrols, with the possibility of a V8-powered M3, which would compete head-to-head with the Audi S4 V8.<p>Despite rumours of BMW introducing new 2 and 4-Series badges for its coupé and cabrio models, the car seen here is likely to retain the famous 3-Series badge. With such an excellent reputation and strong image with consumers, company bosses can see no significant benefit in changing.<p>The new 3-Series CC will make its public debut at the 2005 Frankfurt Motor Show - in exactly 12 months' time - and go on sale early in 2006.<p>Source: Autoexpress<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0">

syclone
02-07-2005, 12:31 PM
looks to me like there will be a bit of 6er in the looks. as a cc it should have a heads up on the competition - as long as you can get it without idrive even it that has to be an option

IcedG35
02-07-2005, 11:13 PM
<A HREF="http://box.motorline.cc/slideshow/image.asp?id=29953" TARGET="_blank">http://box.motorline.cc/slides...29953</A><p>i like the fender bulges around the wheels....looks a lot like the 06 S class fenders (from what we've seen of it at least)<p>hopefully its done a little more gracefully than cars such as the RX8<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Ascariss at 10:21 PM 2/7/2005</i>

mzoltarp
02-08-2005, 05:36 AM
If the picture is accurate, the new coupe will be one of the first BMW's not to be hideous. The proportions are excellent, but the headlights are still "wonky" when they could have been more fluid. The 3 series sedan shows that BMW ran scared after the rebuke of the Banglized 7 series and Z4. The coupe my be an indication that BMW is returning to gorgeous cars.

LEXUS FAN!
03-27-2005, 09:22 PM
the M VERSION<p><A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=8353" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co...=8353</A><p>that's crazy they could tell the difference

Ascariss
03-27-2005, 09:26 PM
well mostly likely the bigger discs and doube exhausts could have given it away on the outside, but maybe the engine sound was another factor. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"><p><A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/gallery/9388_image.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co...e.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/images/gallery/9389_image.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co...e.jpg</A><p>Andreas any clue.

Uberwagon
03-28-2005, 01:08 AM
Maybe it's just me but in all these pictures, convertible included, the trunk seems a bit...long. The trend toward shorter overhangs doesn't seem to be happening in these new coupes.<br>

RikfromBelgium
03-28-2005, 05:18 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mzoltarp</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If the picture is accurate, the new coupe will be one of the first BMW's not to be hideous. The proportions are excellent, but the headlights are still "wonky" when they could have been more fluid. The 3 series sedan shows that BMW ran scared after the rebuke of the Banglized 7 series and Z4. The coupe my be an indication that BMW is returning to gorgeous cars.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I've heard this before. Still haven't seen where BMW heald back on the 3 series <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>I think it's more that customers are beginning to get used to the design. And once they're fully used to it, it'll start all over again. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/banana.gif" BORDER="0">

Gio
03-29-2005, 01:41 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Uberwagon</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Maybe it's just me but in all these pictures, convertible included, the trunk seems a bit...long. The trend toward shorter overhangs doesn't seem to be happening in these new coupes.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I agree with you. All the pics show a monster rear overhang. If the pushed the rear wheels back about 100mm, it would help it a lot (IMHO) .. but hey, what do I know? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

Uberwagon
03-29-2005, 01:36 PM
Good, I'm glad I'm not alone on this! I suppose we'll have to wait until the official pics drop before we can really moan about the rear overhang but it looks odd to my eyes.

erzhik
03-29-2005, 04:05 PM
LOOKS really hot to me.. <p>But wait? isn't that the next M4? <br> I read somewhere that this is the next M4... maybe not, lol

IcedG35
03-29-2005, 04:59 PM
glad they finally put dual exhaust on the coupe...it needed it

KebabGud
03-30-2005, 02:13 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>MBcrazE</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">glad they finally put dual exhaust on the coupe...it needed it </TD></TR></TABLE><br>it is? where?<br>(i cant see it)

Pedigreepaul
03-30-2005, 09:55 AM
On each side of the car.. You can resize the pic when you move your cursor over it..<p>There are two exhausts visible, black ones..

Uberwagon
03-31-2005, 12:52 PM
Maybe this is the new M3. Other than for styling, 3-series don't need dual exhaust pipes: As an inline six cylinder, the exhaust manifold comes off one side, all in a row. Splitting of that pipe so they are separated in back adds no performance benefit, and sometimes adds only weight. <p>If this is dual exhaust, perhaps it's hiding a 400hp V8? We'll see!

kuules
04-14-2005, 07:40 AM
<A HREF="http://img172.echo.cx/my.php?image=43re.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img172.echo.cx/img172/905/43re.th.jpg" BORDER="0"></A><p>source <A HREF="http://www.bimmerfest.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bimmerfest.com</A>

brownjigga
04-14-2005, 08:55 PM
for the 4, is the same V8 in the M3 going to be used?

Roadster44
04-22-2005, 05:16 AM
<A HREF="http://www.autocarmag.com/news_article.asp?na_id=214768" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autocarmag.com/news...14768</A>

erzhik
04-22-2005, 07:25 AM
looks like a CLK rival right there

Vector
04-22-2005, 09:48 AM
BMW has had real problems matching the power increases of the industry. Hondas and Toyota sedans make more than an M3 of only a few years ago! This will be a nice addition to their list of options.<p>

Santeno
04-28-2005, 11:43 AM
A couple of renderings from Autobild:<p><IMG SRC="http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/69199.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/69198.jpg" BORDER="0">

Ascariss
04-28-2005, 11:59 AM
Something isn't right with that C pillar area, thought it was more like the 6ers, seeing as the spy pics do suggest that.<p>Unless taht is the hard top model. hmm.

Vector
04-28-2005, 01:34 PM
Very nice. I like the headlights. Does it seem a little long though? Does anyone know when the official pics will be released?

knihc2008
04-28-2005, 05:57 PM
looks pretty bland, actually. the front is all straight lined and proper, unlike the racy eyebrow arrow headlamp unit and protruding bumpers on the sedan.

scott26
04-29-2005, 09:43 AM
That is the 4er . As for digital rendition BINGO!

Uberwagon
04-29-2005, 02:05 PM
Wow, so this is it, huh?! Very nice. Very, very nice. I really like the different headlamps on this vs. that of the 3er. The 3 has grown on me quite a bit but this is exciting. Knowing that there is an M4 coming makes me... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Scott, if you worked on this: <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

VexedandGlorious
04-29-2005, 02:07 PM
that render is horrible to me, very boring and BMW doesnt want to be know for boring cars.

scott26
04-29-2005, 02:07 PM
I don't work on the cars.<p>My position is more corporate.

Uberwagon
04-29-2005, 02:46 PM
It's always nice to work for a company that makes a good product that people believe in. I've seen the flipside and it isn't fun.<p>Cheers <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0">

knihc2008
05-01-2005, 01:33 PM
scott, any idea where this one came from?<br><A HREF="http://img172.echo.cx/my.php?image=43re.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img172.echo.cx/my.php?image=43re.jpg</A><p>honestly, i kinda like that one better. the front looks meaner and more interesting. and the back of teh chop just looks bizarre, with those huge taillamps.

Nick
05-01-2005, 02:22 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>scott26</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That is the 4er . As for digital rendition BINGO!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I am assuming you mean this one correct?<p><IMG SRC="http://www.autocarmag.com/Car/BMW/3Series/21455653131.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>or the blue one?

knihc2008
05-01-2005, 03:54 PM
i think he means the blue one.

nstreet16
05-02-2005, 12:58 AM
im not too thrilled with the way this is turning out.

DeadFresh
05-02-2005, 07:43 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>scott26</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That is the 4er . As for digital rendition BINGO!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>- Will the 2dr 3 have a different look than the 4? Will it share a the look of the 4dr 3? I ask this because Huckfeldt has produced pictures of a coupe and a hard top vert. <p>Is this the 3? How acurate is it?<br><IMG SRC="http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/44196.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/44197.jpg" BORDER="0">

Omar
05-02-2005, 01:49 PM
No, these are older ones, and are incorrect.<p>the blue one is the one that's hit the jackpot!

brownjigga
05-02-2005, 02:16 PM
besides this pix, is there any other news of the new M3 four door?<p><IMG SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/spyphotos/6050228.001/6050228.001.1L.jpg" BORDER="0">

DeadFresh
05-02-2005, 02:47 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>omar</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No, these are older ones, and are incorrect.<p>the blue one is the one that's hit the jackpot!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Scott26 stated that the most recent picture was the 4 series. However, he did not state how much the 3 coupe will share with the 4. Are we to expect the 3 series coupe front end to look similar to the 4 series or the e90?

Vector
05-02-2005, 03:49 PM
Is it me or is this 3 vs. 4 thing getting confusing? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1zhelp.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Now, if my brain serves, the 3er will be offered in sedan, touring and *soft top* cabriolet variants. The 4er will be a *hard top* cabriolet (possibly with alternative engine?) with slightly different styling. <p>Is this what you guys are hearing too? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

T.B.
05-03-2005, 04:57 AM
According to scott26 the 3er will be offered in sedan, touring and coupe form. But no more as soft top 3er cabrio!!!<p>Cabrio version will be labeled as 4er, featuring alluminium folding hard top. <p>Only the rear will differ 4er from the 3er coupe.

the cheddar
05-03-2005, 11:13 AM
I read it as: Sedan, wagon, coupe and soft-top 3-series. But a hard-convertible with different styling will be labled 4-series.<p>I hope BMW marketing is getting this because I'm confused too!

Ascariss
05-03-2005, 11:57 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Tine</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">According to scott26 the 3er will be offered in sedan, touring and coupe form. But no more as soft top 3er cabrio!!!<p>Cabrio version will be labeled as 4er, featuring alluminium folding hard top. <p>Only the rear will differ 4er from the 3er coupe.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>3er gets soft top, that's why its testing.

RikfromBelgium
05-03-2005, 12:17 PM
so it's: 3 series sedan, coupe, cabrio ( canvas ) and estate<p>and<p>4 series CC

IcedG35
05-03-2005, 12:49 PM
the 4 series is uplevel from the 3 series...more of a CLK competitor from what i understand

protocatcher
05-03-2005, 12:52 PM
I heard from a BMW dealer (cant garantee its right) that there will be a canvas cabrio with the smaller engines, and a folding hardtop on the bigger engines .<br>But it could also mean , just as Rik mentioned , 3 cabrio (canvas) and 4 CC (folding hardtop)

T.B.
05-03-2005, 02:11 PM
Yes, BMW was testing both cabrio variants: soft top and hard top - to evaluate (dis)advantages of both solutions. Since hard top solution had showed good results (not much weight gain; still 50/50 weight distribution; no performance lacks; good aerodynamics), BMW opted for hard top variant - which would be labeled as 4er. <p>No 3er soft top cabrio, though. <p>2er will take a role of a cheaper soft top entry model cabrio - the role once 3er cabrio had.

Uberwagon
05-03-2005, 02:44 PM
Wow, I'm so confused. I could've sworn I read there was going to be a soft-top 3er and restyled uplevel cc 4er. <p>Either way, I like those chops. With a 335 motor, it should be fine upmarket rival for the CLK.

shonguiz
05-04-2005, 10:35 AM
No 3er soft top, only 4 with hard top.

Santeno
05-11-2005, 01:36 PM
new pics of the prototype caught on the road, this time with less camo:<p><A HREF="http://www.rtl.de/galerie/auto/bmw_3er_coupe_erlkoenig_galerie/ri_bmw_3er_cc_erlkoenig.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.rtl.de/galerie/auto...g.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.rtl.de/galerie/auto/bmw_3er_coupe_erlkoenig_galerie/ri_bmw_3er_cc_erlkoenig_1.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.rtl.de/galerie/auto...1.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.rtl.de/galerie/auto/bmw_3er_coupe_erlkoenig_galerie/ri_bmw_3er_cc_erlkoenig_2.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.rtl.de/galerie/auto...2.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.rtl.de/galerie/auto/bmw_3er_coupe_erlkoenig_galerie/ri_bmw_3er_cc_erlkoenig_7.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.rtl.de/galerie/auto...7.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.rtl.de/galerie/auto/bmw_3er_coupe_erlkoenig_galerie/ri_bmw_3er_cc_erlkoenig_3.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.rtl.de/galerie/auto...3.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.rtl.de/galerie/auto/bmw_3er_coupe_erlkoenig_galerie/ri_bmw_3er_cc_erlkoenig_8.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.rtl.de/galerie/auto...8.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.rtl.de/galerie/auto/bmw_3er_coupe_erlkoenig_galerie/ri_bmw_3er_cc_erlkoenig_4.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.rtl.de/galerie/auto...4.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.rtl.de/galerie/auto/bmw_3er_coupe_erlkoenig_galerie/ri_bmw_3er_cc_erlkoenig_5.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.rtl.de/galerie/auto...5.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.rtl.de/galerie/auto/bmw_3er_coupe_erlkoenig_galerie/ri_bmw_3er_cc_erlkoenig_6.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.rtl.de/galerie/auto...6.jpg</A><br>

Uberwagon
05-11-2005, 01:56 PM
Twin exhaust? Hmm. That's unusual and unnecessary for a longitudinally mounted inline-6 (exhaust manifold comes out to one side). Perhaps this could be a V8 test mule for the M3? Or could BMW be doing this on the coupe for "styling" reasons? And what is with that "flare" line above the rear wheel? I don't think that's shown up in any other spyshots yet, has it? Many questions...

~*~STORM~*~
05-11-2005, 09:58 PM
Maybe its the 330i as the same engine in the 6 series has twin exausts <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><A HREF="http://www.germancarfans.com/news.cfm/newsid/2040702.008/pageview/photo/photo/Mini2/page/1/bmw/1.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.germancarfans.com/n....html</A><p>I am sure the M3/4 will definately have quad pipes.

Uberwagon
05-12-2005, 09:53 AM
Interesting. That's a very good point. We don't get the 630 on our side. Thanks Storm. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Somehow I still don't think this matches the beauty and singularity of the G35 coupe. We'll have to wait for unadorned shots, for sure, but the basic shape does not seem to reveal anything approaching that car's lines.

nuvo
06-01-2005, 03:53 AM
<IMG SRC="http://www.motor16.es/imagenes/1129_lu_01_01.gif" BORDER="0"> <br><IMG SRC="http://www.motor16.es/imagenes/1129_lu_01_02.gif" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.motor16.es/imagenes/1129_lu_01_03.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Source: Spanish magazine Motor16<p>It what issued yesterday, what a scoop for such a boring mag.<p>You may not see it quite clear in the picture posted, but in the back side you can read 320Cd, so its seems that it will not be named series 4. <p>The article also says that the drop top version surely will keep its soft top too, and that it will arrive in 2007.

Top Secret
06-01-2005, 04:00 AM
Well, that looks crappy. While I'm not really doubting if its real or not, I just think that looks shocking. Does it really need a boot like that?

Kemble
06-01-2005, 04:01 AM
I dunno...it looks really bad to me. It looks fat, heavy, and kinda like they were trying too hard. Maybe I'll like it in person but those first two pictures killed it for me. kind of a letdown. any "sport" that the 3 coupe had in the last generation is gone.

Cozz
06-01-2005, 04:14 AM
The side profile looks good. It's a mimic of the old one. But yes, it looks "fat" because of the higher belt line. Maybe it needs it for side impact.

RikfromBelgium
06-01-2005, 04:46 AM
I'm not convinved they're real. Especially the first picture makes me doubt.

Speedstick
06-01-2005, 04:46 AM
It doesn't have a unique face like the last one. :(

geary
06-01-2005, 04:48 AM
<IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/pukeface.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>That, is what I knew would happen. I was excited, but I knew the design would be too 'slinky'. I hate to say it, but really I'm very disapointed.<p>The sedan looked okay mildly Banglised, but the boot, as Top Secret, is plain obsene.<p>... and Chris Bangle, I thought you were begining to get into the good books after the 1 series. Shame on you.

CARSRTHEWORLD
06-01-2005, 05:10 AM
they are fake i think. In the first photo, look in the second window on our side to the window on the other side, im pretty sure u can see a line, the one that goes on the pasenger window in the back, that adds that little window at the end, basicly, im saying its probs a not very good chop<p>(hopefully at least!!)

mzoltarp
06-01-2005, 05:15 AM
I suspect they are real. I also think the current 3 series sedan underwhelms. It's not unpleasant, but it's not exciting either. The more I see the 5 series, the more it looks wicked and fast (except for the horrid trunk).

skoochythatone
06-01-2005, 05:23 AM
The thing that bothers me design wise are the lines, the belt line, the line under the C-pillar and the trunk line. Right behind the C-pillar, where all the "lines" come together, it looks really fat. <br><A HREF="http://img150.echo.cx/my.php?image=bmw3series9az.gif" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img150.echo.cx/img150/7412/bmw3series9az.th.gif" BORDER="0"></A><br>I really do like the front, but its not as exciting as many people wouldve wanted it to be. And lets not even mention the rear lights...

assembler
06-01-2005, 05:35 AM
i think it is fake coz for one of them, the rear light is colored differently from the other ones. anyway if its real, i expected it to look abit more different from the sedan :/

Regazzoni
06-01-2005, 05:39 AM
I'm pretty sure they are fake, at least the first two.<br>At time of 3er sedan official presentation a lot of cars (tens) were placed in the same location for a photografic service. It is the science museums of Bilbao (or something like that, I don't remember exaclty).<br>A huge loto of picture were published, many in high resolution.<p>So it highly improbable BMW chises the same place for two premiere of similar models.<br>And also, the pictures of Bilbao were perfect (abundant and hi-res) for a photoshop.<br>

Tidal
06-01-2005, 05:44 AM
I find it hard to believe that they wouldn't differentiate the coupe and the sedan more. They have done in the last two generations, making them wider and lower, and changing the proportions of the car ( longer hood, for example ). On these photos even the bumpers are exactly the same... And the spy pics seemed to show the coupe having a different front.

DeadFresh
06-01-2005, 06:15 AM
<IMG SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/photos/3041026.001/1092.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br><IMG SRC="http://www.motor16.es/imagenes/1129_lu_01_01.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><IMG SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/photos/3041026.001/1073.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br><IMG SRC="http://www.motor16.es/imagenes/1129_lu_01_02.gif" BORDER="0">

bm88
06-01-2005, 06:26 AM
Good chops!<p>I honestly did think they were chops, as the lighting is really pathetic to say it was a first official image.<p>Thanks for proving it!

nuvo
06-01-2005, 07:06 AM
Sorry guys, Motor 16 showed it on the cover of the magazine claiming exclusivty, they looked so real that they get to fool me.<p>So never trust Motor 16 again.<p>By the way the location is Valencia.<p>Thank Regazzoni and DeadFresh for showing us the truth.

Regazzoni
06-01-2005, 07:49 AM
I apologise with every person in Valencia, Bilbao and in whole Spain.<br>I'd just seen a TV-special on Valencia a few weeks ago but ... my memory had just left for a vacation.

mc_blue
06-01-2005, 07:58 AM
I knew that couldn't be it - the chops are good, very good but thanks it isn't the real thing. This die hard BMW fan sighed relief just now!

Ascariss
06-01-2005, 08:32 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>nuvo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You may not see it quite clear in the picture posted, but in the back side you can read 320Cd, so its seems that it will not be named series 4. <p>The article also says that the drop top version surely will keep its soft top too, and that it will arrive in 2007.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The 3er was to be named 4er (along the lines of 6er using even numbers for coupes/or 2 doored vehicles) in the start but was changed back to 3er , I am sure this is discussed in this thread someplace. the 4er is the CC.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Ascariss at 3:05 PM 6/1/2005</i>

Regazzoni
06-01-2005, 08:47 AM
<br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Ascariss</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The 3er was to be named 3er in the start but was changed back to 3er ....</TD></TR></TABLE> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0"> <br><IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> Is it ment to mean something? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

AM2K
06-01-2005, 09:11 AM
I think (and i do stress the word think) that what ascariss meant was that this upcoming coupe was meant to be called the 4-series. But now it will be called the 3-series as it always has been.<p>But there will be a special CC version with folding metal top etc, which will be called 4-series.<p>If im wrong, then somebody correct me!

Regazzoni
06-01-2005, 09:17 AM
I was supposing this...<br>...but I was curious on how Ascariss would have answered.<p>Just joking <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0">

tbensous
06-10-2005, 12:47 PM
I tried to do a photoshop of a black sedan... I think it gives a good idea of what the coupe might look like...<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0"> <p> <IMG SRC="http://forum.e46fanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=130137&stc=1" BORDER="0">

tbensous
06-10-2005, 03:18 PM
Here is my last version...<p>- Removed B-Pilar (from the sedan to make the door more coupe-ish)<br>- Lower roof line<br>- Slightly longer door<br>- And fixed the badge <p><br> <IMG SRC="http://forum.e46fanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=130271&stc=1" BORDER="0">

Cozz
06-10-2005, 03:33 PM
Not bad at all.<p>Though I do think the rear glass will be lower at the rear tip. Maybe something sharper at the kink.

LEXUS FAN!
06-10-2005, 07:29 PM
that's an awesome chop...didn't you also change the rear taillights???<p>could we see the original?

tbensous
06-11-2005, 10:23 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>LEXUS FAN!</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that's an awesome chop...didn't you also change the rear taillights???<p>could we see the original?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yes. I modified them. I added the clear turn signals and made the lights thiner than on the sedan .<p>Here is the original photo from nathan@e90post<p> <IMG SRC="http://forum.e46fanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=130342&stc=1" BORDER="0">

brownjigga
06-11-2005, 12:03 PM
really great job tbensous, that is a great chop, but wont it be a quad exaust?

Top Secret
06-11-2005, 12:33 PM
Why would it be a quad exhaust?

tbensous
06-11-2005, 12:52 PM
<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Top Secret</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why would it be a quad exhaust?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Only the M version will have quad exaust I guess...

tbensous
06-12-2005, 05:36 AM
improved version... I removed the B pillar completelty...<p> <IMG SRC="http://forum.e46fanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=130407&stc=1" BORDER="0">

Santeno
06-12-2005, 07:49 AM
Thanks for the images Thiery, very well made. However, lets please keep the personal chops in the chops section. thanks.

AM2K
08-09-2005, 12:10 PM
Some recent pics of the E90 testing:<p><A HREF="http://www.bmwe21.net/temp/spy/spy8.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bmwe21.net/temp/spy/spy8.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://www.bmwe21.net/temp/spy/spy9.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bmwe21.net/temp/spy/spy9.jpg</A><p>Source: Jeroen @ <A HREF="http://www.bmwe21.net" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bmwe21.net</A><br>

RikfromBelgium
08-09-2005, 12:34 PM
I want to see mooooooore <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/crying.gif" BORDER="0">

synthesis
08-09-2005, 02:44 PM
c'mon bmw... you're killin me. the camo on those most recent spy shots is exactly the same (or even more extensive) than the camo on the cars photographed in january. <p>camo usually decreases as a car nears unveiling... why oh why can't bmw give us something.

tobajara
08-18-2005, 10:49 AM
<A HREF="http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=29&article_id=9902" TARGET="_blank">http://www.caranddriver.com/ar...=9902</A>

DoMiNo
08-18-2005, 11:09 AM
God, Lehmann. Awful.

Charger
08-18-2005, 11:11 AM
<br><A HREF="http://youthmag.de/host/erlkoenig/img/2005/bmw3ercoupe01.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://youthmag.de/host/erlkoe...1.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://youthmag.de/host/erlkoenig/img/2005/bmw3ercoupe02.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://youthmag.de/host/erlkoe...2.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://youthmag.de/host/erlkoenig/img/2005/bmw3ercoupe03.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://youthmag.de/host/erlkoe...3.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://youthmag.de/host/erlkoenig/img/2005/bmw3ercoupe04.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://youthmag.de/host/erlkoe...4.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://youthmag.de/host/erlkoenig/img/2005/bmw3ercoupe05.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://youthmag.de/host/erlkoe...5.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://youthmag.de/host/erlkoenig/img/2005/bmw3ercoupe06.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://youthmag.de/host/erlkoe...6.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://youthmag.de/host/erlkoenig/img/2005/bmw3ercoupe07.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://youthmag.de/host/erlkoe...7.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://youthmag.de/host/erlkoenig/img/2005/bmw3ercoupe08.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://youthmag.de/host/erlkoe...8.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://youthmag.de/host/erlkoenig/img/2005/bmw3ercoupe09.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://youthmag.de/host/erlkoe...9.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://youthmag.de/host/erlkoenig/img/2005/bmw3ercoupe10.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://youthmag.de/host/erlkoe...0.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://youthmag.de/host/erlkoenig/img/2005/bmw3ercoupe11.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://youthmag.de/host/erlkoe...1.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://youthmag.de/host/erlkoenig/img/2005/bmw3ercoupe12.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://youthmag.de/host/erlkoe...2.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://youthmag.de/host/erlkoenig/img/2005/bmw3ercoupe13.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://youthmag.de/host/erlkoe...3.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://youthmag.de/host/erlkoenig/img/2005/bmw3ercoupe14.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://youthmag.de/host/erlkoe...4.jpg</A><p> <IMG SRC="http://media.autobild.de/bild/E/a152ac5ce2fe29976001be6a4f2a9dce_1.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://media.autobild.de/bild/8/119ceba1853776dc0fceb5885d23a4e8_1.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br>source: autobild

LEXUS FAN!
08-18-2005, 01:13 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>tbensous</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">improved version... I removed the B pillar completelty...<p> <IMG SRC="http://forum.e46fanatics.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=130407&stc=1" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>good job, but on the other side of the car that pillar needs to be removed<p>...<p>nice new spy pics

StevenZoz
09-07-2005, 03:09 PM
<A HREF="http://www.caranddriver.com/assets/image/2005/811200511128.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.caranddriver.com/as...8.jpg</A><p>BMW is preparing a number of new 3 Series variants for launch within the next two years.<p>This latest shot is a computer enhanced image of the 3-series coupe, which used an actual prototype photo wearing only tape on its front-end as a foundation for what you see here. The new front-end of the coupe is distinctly different from the sedan.<p>Power for the coupe comes from the same two six-cylinder engines that are offered in the sedan. The performance oriented M3 will get an eight-cylinder engine delivering around 400 horsepower, versus the outgoing models six-cylinder rated at 333 horsepower.<p>The 3-series coupe is scheduled for launch sometime in 2006, with the convertible and the M3 following in 2007.<br>

against the wall
09-07-2005, 03:12 PM
jeez i guess bad lehmann chops run in the family.

Rossell
09-08-2005, 01:52 AM
That C&D pic looks like a 5-Series. Check the rear end.

TycoonGTR
09-08-2005, 02:22 AM
One of the best 3er chops i've seen so far... Great work, tbensous ! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0">

klier
09-08-2005, 07:40 AM
Very nice, although you forgot to do the othe side of the car....I can still see the rear passanger door and B pillar <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0">

DeadFresh
10-05-2005, 11:54 AM
Video of e92 at "The Ring" <A HREF="http://media.autobild.de/video/F/b878fd5f6240576e10aa0fea1e1e437f-1.avi" TARGET="_blank">http://media.autobild.de/video...1.avi</A> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/driver.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>335=Dual Exhaust= <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0">

drugmirko
10-13-2005, 02:00 AM
here.... shot yesterday, by mistervegas, member of my local forum: <p><A HREF="http://www.mobisux.com/album/data/500/13363PICT1065-med.JPG" TARGET="_blank">http://www.mobisux.com/album/d...d.JPG</A><p>full size(well, bit bigger):<p><A HREF="http://www.mobisux.com/album/data/500/13363PICT1065.JPG" TARGET="_blank">http://www.mobisux.com/album/d...5.JPG</A>

mc_blue
10-13-2005, 02:31 AM
I like the proportions, this is shaping up to be a real looker IMO.

knicks125
10-14-2005, 09:06 PM
According to this article, BMW will no longer offer coupe and convertible as separate versions; instead, a coupe-cabriolet version will replace them next fall:<p><A HREF="http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=107580" TARGET="_blank">http://www.edmunds.com/insidel...07580</A><p>No more separate coupe and convertible...

Ascariss
10-14-2005, 09:13 PM
Actually if you go back in this thread, BMW was still deciding whether it would have both the coupe and cabrio and also a CC car. In the end I guess the regular 3er coupe is coming, and a 4 series which is the CC.

T.B.
10-15-2005, 10:39 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Ascariss</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Actually if you go back in this thread, BMW was still deciding whether it would have both the coupe and cabrio and also a CC car. In the end I guess the regular 3er coupe is coming, and a 4 series which is the CC.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>There will be E92 coupe and E93 cabrio with metal folding roof (aka coupe-cabrio), both labeled as 3-series. <p>Initial plan was to introduce 4-series label for E92 and E93, then only E93 was to be named 4er, and now 4er name is axed. Final decision was made upon marketing reasons.<p>Scott26 said BMW may introduce yet unknown model under 4er name in the future.

AM2K
10-15-2005, 11:29 AM
So the canvas roof variant is gone then? I think a metal roof is still pretty good, and BMW will probably come up with some weight saving techniques to ensure it isnt overweight and performs well.

T.B.
10-15-2005, 11:54 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>AM2K</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So the canvas roof variant is gone then? I think a metal roof is still pretty good, and BMW will probably come up with some weight saving techniques to ensure it isnt overweight and performs well.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Correct, canvas top is gone in 3-series. Metal one is claim to be of aluminim, with unique folding mechanism - result of that is significant weight saving, and preservation of notorious 50:50 wegiht distribution.<p>3er CC will also be more pricey than current 3er cabrio. Therefore BMW will introduce cheaper 2er cabrio with canvas roof a year later (in 2007).<p>Scott should confirm that ...<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Tine at 10:27 PM 10/15/2005</i>

shonguiz
10-15-2005, 01:40 PM
Is cancellation of 4 series name definitiv ?

LEXUS FAN!
10-15-2005, 01:50 PM
i'm confused...<p>is it hard top convertible then???<p>or it a regular looking coupe, but the top comes off manually to become a convertible?....like the ford thunderbird

SHEPO
10-15-2005, 02:04 PM
come on BMW just reveal the new 3er coupe/convertibles so the confusion ends <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/crying.gif" BORDER="0">

T.B.
10-15-2005, 02:17 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>LEXUS FAN!</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i'm confused...<p>is it hard top convertible then???<p>or it a regular looking coupe, but the top comes off manually to become a convertible?....like the ford thunderbird</TD></TR></TABLE><p>yes, you seem very confused indeed. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>3er CC will be a 3er cabrio with automatic metal folding roof. Do you understand now? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Btw, CC (coupe-cabrio) label is widely used in Europe for cabrios with metal folding roof. <p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>shonguiz</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Is cancellation of 4 series name definitiv ?<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yes. E92 and E93 (coupe and CC) will be badged as 3er. It has something to do with marketing reasons (too strong 3-series name/brand cachet, marketing costs, etc). In simple words: BMW could go with 4er, but they realised it would be safer, simplier and cheaper to stick to 3er label.<p>But scott26 said that BMW will save the 4er label for yet unknown future model - not necessary based on 3er platform.<p>3er Coupe press launch is scheduled for December 2005, and 3er CC ~ 6 months later (~ May 2006).<br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Tine at 11:23 PM 10/15/2005</i>

LEXUS FAN!
10-18-2005, 02:03 PM
haha...thanks<p>so it is a hardtop convertible

Omar
10-18-2005, 02:15 PM
December 2005? That soon???<p>Yippee!

nuvo
10-19-2005, 01:29 AM
I still hope they don not go for a 3 series CC. I belive cabriolet drivers want our cars look like cabrios. People who likes the Renaults or Peugeots or those driving BMW cabrios with wind protection devices sure have made the wrong decision when buying.

BMW_Dude
10-19-2005, 03:17 AM
I think we will have to wait and see what it looks like!<p>I sure BMW would mess a CC up, remember MB had good looking CC!

StevenZoz
10-21-2005, 04:30 PM
<A HREF="http://autospies.com/images/uploads/large/3-series-cab-4.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://autospies.com/images/up...4.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://autospies.com/images/uploads/large/3-series-cab-3.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://autospies.com/images/up...3.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://autospies.com/images/uploads/large/3-series-cab-2.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://autospies.com/images/up...2.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://autospies.com/images/uploads/large/3-series-cab-1.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://autospies.com/images/up...1.jpg</A>

scorpio14
10-21-2005, 05:04 PM
the car looks weird in those pics... dont look very 3series-ish<p>I lile the pics from mobisux.com

RikfromBelgium
10-22-2005, 04:13 AM
jeezes, how old are those<br>and that's their "you saw it here first " <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0">

AM2K
10-22-2005, 08:20 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><U><B>Lid is lifted on BMW's fold winner</B></U> <p>For the first time ever, BMW's exciting new 3-Series Coup Cabriolet has been caught topless! Our spies spotted the newcomer testing in Germany with its clever folding metal roof fully lowered.<p>Look carefully at our exclusive pictures in this week's Auto Express and you'll see that the Bavarian manufacturer's famous grille is visible through the fake mesh covering on the heavily disguised car. <p>And while plastic panels hide the rest of the exterior, the flush-fitting design of the retracted hood can easily be seen. Comprising three separate panels, the roof lowers at the touch of a button and is hidden in the boot area. <p>The retractable hood is also expected to offer a sunroof facility - similar to the set-up on the MINI Convertible - for when owners don't want the full top-down experience. This involves the front part of the hard-top sliding back over the second panel to create a large open-ing above occupants in the front seats. <p>Refinement is key in this sector, so expect the 3-Series Coup Cabriolet to be whisper-quiet with the roof in the fully raised position. The compact hood mechanism shouldn't impair boot space, with a decent load area available even when the top is stowed. <p>The machine may appear to have B-pillars, but these are only strips of plastic forming part of the car's disguise. And don't be fooled by the indicator repeaters mounted on the door mirrors, either - conventional side lights are positioned on the front wings in the usual place.<p>A broad range of engines from the BMW stable will ensure the 3-Series CC is a match for key rivals such as Audi's A4 Cabriolet and the new Volvo C70. The line-up will start with 2.0-litre petrol and diesel units. A variety of six-cylinder motors will also be available, while a V8-powered M3 version - designed to match the 344bhp Audi S4 Cabriolet - is likely to be added to the range at a later date.<p>When the new convertible arrives in showrooms here in 2007, it's expected to retain the 3-Series name, and will share the same sharp styling as the latest saloon and Touring estate models. Despite the fact the car will be the first BMW to be equipped with a folding metal hard-top, company bosses are unlikely to opt for a fresh title. Meanwhile, a two-door Coup version of the 3-Series is expected to be launched some time late next year. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Source: Auto Express<p><br>Anybody managed to see these pics yet? They sound very interesting...

DC-GT
10-22-2005, 01:21 PM
<A HREF="http://www.mobisux.com/album/data/500/13363PICT1065.JPG" TARGET="_blank">http://www.mobisux.com/album/d...5.JPG</A><p>Look's like a 100% coupe to me. Deffo nt a convertable.

autodanse
10-22-2005, 01:23 PM
wow! finally a real world shot not on the ring! excellent

scorpio14
10-22-2005, 05:32 PM
That looks great...

synthesis
10-22-2005, 11:20 PM
Testing the 3 against the C-Class I understand, but why also compare to the S?

autodanse
10-22-2005, 11:23 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>synthesis</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Testing the 3 against the C-Class I understand, but why also compare to the S?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>technicians gotta drive in style

T.B.
10-23-2005, 11:55 AM
On that last photo of only taped 3er coupe a rear licence plate is placed in a boot lid, not in a rear bumper - like Scott26 indicated 3er coupe would wear a rear licence plate.<p>So, Scott? What happened? A re-styling in last minute, or something else?

husseindesign
10-23-2005, 12:46 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>synthesis</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Testing the 3 against the C-Class I understand, but why also compare to the S?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Maybe the S was just parking there <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

T.B.
10-23-2005, 12:53 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>husseindesign</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Maybe the S was just parking there <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Or BMW is testing the S to compare it to 7er ... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cool.gif" BORDER="0">

scott26
10-23-2005, 03:18 PM
When the product plan originated BMW 3er Sedan and Touring and 4er Coupe and Cabrio . The designers then set about differing these models like the C-Klasse coupe if you like is the CLK - That idea intrigued the BMW board of management because A- it was different than the original platform vehicle and B - because the E63 6er Coupe and cabrio were waiting in the wings.<p> The idea was spawn to create something individual than the platform that originated the 3er Sedan and Touring.<br>Hence why BMW decided to go forth with the 4er plan unfortunately marketing determined that this might not work but the consensus within <br>BMW favoured the plan to introduce the coupe as the BMW 4er . The plan was put to a vote but the results although extremely close decided to go with resorting the name back to the 3er Coupe.<p>I think the idea would have worked if they continued to use the 4er . <p>Now the name has changed but the design ideas live on the new 3er Coupe is seen as individual fromn the 3er sedan and Touring .<br>Why ? Because it is from the beginning of idea grabbing to be individual in design - (Even the wheel designs differ greatly taking cue from the 6er with elipsoid designs) , performance , and especially dynamics the car has been developed to be more focused as a performance car than the 3er sedan.<p>With the Cabrio you will have the benefit of a open top cabrio and the enclosure of a coupe - The best of both worlds.<p>And then you are going to have the 335i BMW's first step in turbocharged petrol engines for a long while. The Coupe will be the first car to have the turbocharged 3.0 under it's hood and then the engine will roll out to the rest of the 3er models before being placed under other BMW products.<p>If you saw the Autozeitung magazine pictures this is what the Coupe and Cabrio will look like. Sleeker and more individual design than the 3er Sedan.<p>Also remember with the upcoming E87 based Coupe and Cabrio the positioning of the new 3er Coupe and cabrio will be more clearer.<br>Like the upcoming X5 will make the X3 positioning more clearer.<p>And then this magnificent car will then form the basis of the next M3 - Which is said to be using the benchmark of the Porsche 997. <br>Which the E92 will be closer to than before - The M3 development team also are trying out the AM V8 as the 380 BHP car will no doubt be competition for the E92 - The engineers especially like the sound of the AM V8 and are working to emulate such a roar for the next M3.<br>A whole department are working on the sound.<p>The next M3 will expect to be fractionally more expensive than todays car however the payoff will be more power , noise, technology and of course Carbon fibre components such as the roof to offset the increase.<br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by scott26 at 3:25 PM 10/23/2005</i>

Omar
10-23-2005, 04:12 PM
hey scott, these were posted earlier... how accurate are these? (BTW, they're from autobild, not autozeitung)<p><A HREF="http://media.autobild.de/bild/E/a152ac5ce2fe29976001be6a4f2a9dce_1.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://media.autobild.de/bild/...1.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://media.autobild.de/bild/8/119ceba1853776dc0fceb5885d23a4e8_1.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://media.autobild.de/bild/...1.jpg</A>

T.B.
10-24-2005, 04:25 AM
Scott, how accurate is this chop?<p><A HREF="http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/5427/353a96bad87ip.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/5427/353a96bad87ip.th.jpg" BORDER="0"></A> (click on pic for larger image)<br>

Omar
10-24-2005, 04:27 AM
which magazine is it from?

tobajara
10-24-2005, 06:26 AM
<A HREF="http://www.autotitre.com/forum/up/353a96bad8.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autotitre.com/forum/up/353a96bad8.jpg</A>

dillinja
10-24-2005, 07:17 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>scott26</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>If you saw the Autozeitung magazine pictures this is what the Coupe and Cabrio will look like. Sleeker and more individual design than the 3er Sedan.<br>]</TD></TR></TABLE><p>somebody find us those autozeitung pics please!!!

T.B.
10-24-2005, 07:36 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>dillinja</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>somebody find us those autozeitung pics please!!!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Scans from AutoZeitung:<p><A HREF="http://img286.imageshack.us/img286/7092/3coupe6ei.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img286.imageshack.us/img286/7092/3coupe6ei.th.jpg" BORDER="0"></A><p><A HREF="http://img286.imageshack.us/img286/4766/sid11ff.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img286.imageshack.us/img286/4766/sid11ff.th.jpg" BORDER="0"></A><A HREF="http://img286.imageshack.us/img286/7713/sid24oo.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img286.imageshack.us/img286/7713/sid24oo.th.jpg" BORDER="0"></A><p>And here are the latest Huckfeldt's (AutoBild) impressions of 3er Cabrio:<p><A HREF="http://media.autobild.de/bild/4/8c3c75299236101652d9e77b7e9e0e84_1.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://media.autobild.de/bild/...1.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://media.autobild.de/bild/7/675d988c9a17a7f17de688899d81c977_1.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://media.autobild.de/bild/...1.jpg</A><p><br> ... his "prehistoric" (inaccurate) impressions of 3er coupe:<p><A HREF="http://media.autobild.de/bild/7/675d988c9a17a7f17de688899d81c977_1.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://media.autobild.de/bild/...1.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://media.autobild.de/bild/D/8eae29be4dbbef44209511a153b9725d_1.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://media.autobild.de/bild/...1.jpg</A><p>... and his latest impressions of M3 coupe (the ones omar just posted):<p><A HREF="http://media.autobild.de/bild/E/a152ac5ce2fe29976001be6a4f2a9dce_1.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://media.autobild.de/bild/...1.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://media.autobild.de/bild/8/119ceba1853776dc0fceb5885d23a4e8_1.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://media.autobild.de/bild/...1.jpg</A><p><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Tine at 8:17 PM 10/24/2005</i>

CosworthKid
10-24-2005, 08:07 AM
So the AutoBild chops where spot on all these months ago!It really does seem that BMW was planning to release it as a 4er before they changed their mind cause this looks very different from the 3-sof series which is kinda anorthodox for a 3er convertible. I dont know if i like it or not yet and im sure a lot of ppl wont.

Smart22186
10-24-2005, 11:36 AM
I recon that bmw just said they were gonna call it the 4-series so that magazines and ppl didnt do chops of the current 3, cause that would be pretty spot on, so they called it the 4 so ppl think it will be different from the 3 (new headlights and tail lights) until they just a few weeks from launch and then say "oooops forget to say its not the 4 by the way we changed our minds think we will just stick with 3, sorry! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/moon_1_D.gif" BORDER="0"> " and behind our backs they were like <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/banana.gif" BORDER="0"> all along!

dodgenitro
10-27-2005, 04:58 PM
Maybe A 7 Series Smaller Car. Or A Smaller 6 Series. Or A Redesign Of The BMW. 3 Series Coupe/Convertible Like The BMW. 3 Series Sedan 4DR.

StevenZoz
10-27-2005, 05:47 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>dodgenitro</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Maybe A 7 Series Smaller Car. Or A Smaller 6 Series. Or A Redesign Of The BMW. 3 Series Coupe/Convertible Like The BMW. 3 Series Sedan 4DR.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>please stop posting unrelated info..u've done this in so many threads today and half of it doesn't make sense... like this 1.

The Ultimate Car Guy
10-27-2005, 10:21 PM
Thnx for the pic Tine! thats a really good one.<p>Did anyone notice that the rear tailights have both Celis-LED and LED bulbs? just like the facelifted 7 Series.<p>And where does the number-plate fall? in the boot (as in the photos) or the bumper (as mentioned by scott26)?<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by The Ultimate Car Guy at 10:26 PM 10/27/2005</i>

striki
11-05-2005, 11:00 AM
<A HREF="http://img167.imageshack.us/my.php?image=m33nd.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/7948/m33nd.th.jpg" BORDER="0"></A><p><br>I like this one too.

tek2k
11-06-2005, 08:01 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>scorpio14</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the car looks weird in those pics... dont look very 3series-ish<p>I lile the pics from mobisux.com</TD></TR></TABLE><br>looks like a 3 hardtop convertible

lawandorder360
11-23-2005, 06:54 PM
Just wondering guys...a member of my family is considering either buying the current 3 series convertible or the new model. when will it be released?

AM2K
11-24-2005, 01:20 PM
another new spy pic:<p><A HREF="http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/7924/e929sz.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/7924/e929sz.jpg</A><p>Source: Autocar

Charger
11-24-2005, 02:35 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>spikes111</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Source <A HREF="http://www.e90post.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.e90post.com</A> <p><A HREF="http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8134" TARGET="_blank">http://www.e90post.com/forums/...=8134</A></TD></TR></TABLE>

diablo
11-25-2005, 01:37 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Charger</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Source <A HREF="http://www.e90post.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.e90post.com</A><p><A HREF="http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8134" TARGET="_blank">http://www.e90post.com/forums/...=8134</A><br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Very nice. Very soon we will see just some tape on the car.

striki
11-27-2005, 04:56 PM
What engines will be equiping the new coupe? Is the 35d in this list?

AM2K
11-29-2005, 11:42 AM
Some of the best pictures yet of the folding metal roof on the new 3-series Cabrio:<p><A HREF="http://www.mph-online.com/web/spyphotos/0025" TARGET="_blank">http://www.mph-online.com/web/spyphotos/0025</A><br>

IcedG35
11-29-2005, 12:49 PM
that really does look a lot liek a real coupe but i think it will look very bland with the top down judging by those pics

StevenZoz
11-29-2005, 01:39 PM
it looks like the top is in 3 pieces like the volvo

knihc2008
11-29-2005, 03:09 PM
the back view's got a really nice stance. please don't let the covered parts be ugly.

sc43018
11-30-2005, 02:49 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>lawandorder360</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just wondering guys...a member of my family is considering either buying the current 3 series convertible or the new model. when will it be released?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>personally, i would wait, even if it takes more than a year... especially if this person wants the convertible. The next 3er, as seen above, will have a hard top convertible, and be everything from the old 3er but better. I think the best way to decide if the wait is worth is to test drive a new 3er sedan vs. an old 3er sedan, and use that to judge the differences in driving. But as far as the convertible goes, the old 3er would have to be a million times better than the new 3er (sedan) for me to buy one now, go ahead and wait <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0">

T.B.
12-10-2005, 07:35 AM
We are heading towards the end of December.<p>So, Scott, any news about E92 3er coupe press release?<br>A friend of mine - a journalist - claims PR is due next week (week #50). True?<p><br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>My friend journalist</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>"To all intent and purpose: The new BMW 3-series Coupe."<p>"Artists take their inspiration to canvas, ours take theirs to the road." <p>"Where dynamism and efficiency can now be used in the same sentence."<p>"Perfomance without penalty."<p>"3.0-liter, six-cylinder, direct injection, turbo charging, 330hp."</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Scott, does that sound familiar or not?<p><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Tine at 11:49 PM 12/10/2005</i>

LEXUS FAN!
12-13-2005, 05:23 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>tobajara</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><A HREF="http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=29&article_id=9902" TARGET="_blank">http://www.caranddriver.com/ar...=9902</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p>here is the actual spy shot w/ tape, so you get a better idea<p><A HREF="http://www.mph-online.com/web/spyphotos/005" TARGET="_blank">http://www.mph-online.com/web/spyphotos/005</A>

carjunkie
12-13-2005, 08:14 PM
Wow, that coupe is coming out to real nice. I hope they don't screw up the taillights.

spikes111
12-17-2005, 11:57 AM
New magazine photo, looks like the real thing finally!? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><A HREF="http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32&page=7&pp=22" TARGET="_blank">http://www.e90post.com/forums/...pp=22</A><p>Scroll down for magazine scan of the picture (white e92 coupe)

Kemble
12-17-2005, 01:39 PM
my guess is that that is still just a chop. The "character' line is much shallower on that chop than the real life body panels appear. The front/rear lights also look a tad off. Obviously it looks official since we've basically seen the entire car stripped of disguise(minus lights/grill).

T.B.
12-18-2005, 07:06 AM
It's a chop. The front (bumper, headlights, grill) and side skirt show evident E90 elements.

tobajara
01-02-2006, 05:50 AM
<A HREF="http://www.germancarfans.com/spyphotos.cfm/spyphotoid/6060102.001" TARGET="_blank">http://www.germancarfans.com/s...2.001</A>

bm88
01-03-2006, 01:38 PM
A source has told me that the E92 is now undergoing the FEP (or Final Engineering Pilot, Final Ecauation Pilot and Final Evaluation Production) stages.<p>I have been informed this involes minimal disguise and more public locations.<br> <br>Guys, its coming soon, very soon.<br>

T.B.
01-03-2006, 01:47 PM
Of course it does. <p>It's coming with a desert storm. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

shonguiz
01-04-2006, 05:40 AM
When Detroit show open doors ?

Omar
01-04-2006, 06:16 AM
According to cardesignnews, the public are allowed in from 14th Janaury till 22nd; the media from 8th January till 10th, so the 8th is when you should start seeing pics.

RikfromBelgium
01-04-2006, 06:29 AM
could it be tomorrow? Because normally the launch stuff on either tuesday or thursday. <br>that is, if the car will be at detroit. <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by RikfromBelgium at 2:34 PM 1/4/2006</i>

Omar
01-04-2006, 08:32 AM
Naah, no way it'll be at Detroit. Let's hope it's at Geneva, because Paris is just too long for me to wait!

V10
01-04-2006, 08:35 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Tine</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Of course it does. <p>It's coming with a desert storm. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I make a bet on January 17th.

bm88
01-04-2006, 08:55 AM
Thats what I've heard too.

T.B.
01-04-2006, 09:09 AM
Imagination is working hard! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/aliensmiley.gif" BORDER="0">

RikfromBelgium
01-04-2006, 09:14 AM
what date it may come, today is too late<br>I want it yesterday <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

ndjan
01-04-2006, 09:56 AM
Is it just me, or is it taking an unusually long time to bring these out?

mattthebad
01-04-2006, 01:39 PM
The 2 door 1er takes even longer. This is something I really do not understand, as I'd think that a vast majority would prefer a 2door 1er over the 4 door variant. Either BMW doesn't need another 100.000 cars to be sold or has not the capacities able to build them at the moment and therefore delays those cars.

spikes111
01-09-2006, 07:37 AM
I keep reading / hearing that we'll hear something this week/early next week. But then again I've heard plenty of things about this car that haven't come true yet :) C'mon BMW give us some info already.

V10
01-10-2006, 01:59 AM
Why would they allow a press release this week... it would fall between the hundred other press releases related to the Detroit, LA and Brussels motorshows. Except for BMW fanatics, few people would put attention to it.

Ascariss
01-10-2006, 09:42 AM
Didn't bmw do the same thing last year with the sedan, info was released in late january?

T.B.
01-10-2006, 10:45 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Ascariss</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Didn't bmw do the same thing last year with the sedan, info was released in late january?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The first press release about E90 3er Sedan was released on 10/26/2004. In-detail release was indeed released on 1/18/2005 - during the NAIAS 2005.<p>The problem I have with January 17 date is that BMW Sauber F1 car will be launched on the same date.<p>But it could be Jan 17 is the start of the press kit distribution to media, with embargo ending few days later.<p>Time will tell.<p> <p>

kuules
01-13-2006, 06:05 AM
<A HREF="http://www.germancarfans.com/spyphotos/6060113.001/6060113.001.Mini2L.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.germancarfans.com/s...L.jpg</A>

T.B.
01-13-2006, 10:59 AM
Another PSed spy pic by Lehmann.

SHEPO
01-13-2006, 01:06 PM
a pretty bad one too <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0">

CosworthKid
01-13-2006, 04:17 PM
Side is accurate??This looks bloody disgusting and way out of proportion..it screams Free Willy! Extremely bad chop, not even the Chinese would make such a beast.

viper_rcr
01-14-2006, 12:45 PM
the pic is real with a chopped front. the side really does look like that. the car looks like sh** overlal<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by knicks125 at 2:53 PM 1/14/2006</i>

IcedG35
01-14-2006, 03:58 PM
I think, and more so I hope, you're very wrong. First off, I dont think the inside bottom corner of the headlights is accurate. Also, that rear bumper bulge seems a little too risky for what is supposed to be the most conservative model. I really hope this isn't it. The side of the car looks so long and flat.

T.B.
01-14-2006, 04:33 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>IcedG35</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think, and more so I hope, you're very wrong. First off, I dont think the inside bottom corner of the headlights is accurate. Also, that rear bumper bulge seems a little too risky for what is supposed to be the most conservative model. I really hope this isn't it. The side of the car looks so long and flat.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It's your choice to believe me or not, but the car is real in detail (exept that orange tape and missnig rim logos).<p>What first what bothered me were way too chunky bars in the front air intake and creases on the front bumper. After comparing the pics focusing on details I realised I was misled. <br>It's a shooting angle, lighting and unbalaced focus that are tricky - producing a bit strange appearence of Coupe and its details. <p>The headlights are accurate - even the inside bottom corner.<br>The rear looks "heavy" & "flat" due to strange shooting angle & lighting, so the creases, bulges ind curves are not clearly seen - making the panels looking fat&flat. <p>Yes it looks long from this angle - especially due to short rearlight wraparound. It's the intention to appear long & sleek.<p>Rear bumper bulge is there. You can also clearly see it here:<br><A HREF="http://www.germancarfans.com/spyphotos.cfm/spyphotoid/6060102.001/pageview/photo/photo/Mini2/page/1/bmw/1.html " TARGET="_blank">http://www.germancarfans.com/s...html </A><p>When you'll see the press pics, you'll realize the design & proportions are much more balanced.<p>Yes, the car looks longish & sleek. Maybe a bit too much - I especially have problems with smallish headlights and longish rearlights. Yes, they do look sleek, but ... <br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Tine at 12:46 AM 1/15/2006</i>

donnaleeao
01-16-2006, 05:06 AM
So is tomorrow the big day ? (17th)

T.B.
01-16-2006, 06:38 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>donnaleeao</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So is tomorrow the big day ? (17th)</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It is. For BMW Sauber F1 Team. And allegadly for E92 development team. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Tine at 6:43 PM 1/16/2006</i>

bm88
01-16-2006, 09:40 AM
My latest information suggests January 27th. <p>Tomorrow is supposed to be the final R&D meeting, then the marketing department get to work.

RikfromBelgium
01-16-2006, 09:50 AM
on a friday <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0">

Ascariss
01-16-2006, 10:31 AM
Don't worry it will come, and sadly like with the sedan, I am not expecting many differences from huckfeldt's impression. Still it will be nice to see the official pictures, but somehow this car isn't really doing it for me yet.

klier
01-16-2006, 02:17 PM
Everyone is an Insider nowadays, it's becoming really silly.

bm88
01-16-2006, 03:16 PM
I don't reckon to have personal insider knowledge, I just post what I find on other forums here for you all to look at, and hopefully enjoy.

carjunkie
01-19-2006, 11:24 AM
I don't know if this is photo chopped or what, but it looks pretty good from the front<p><A HREF="http://info.detnews.com/autosinsider/sneakpeek/index.cfm" TARGET="_blank">http://info.detnews.com/autosi...x.cfm</A>

CosworthKid
01-19-2006, 01:51 PM
Mate that was posted days ago and was the center of discussion in this forum since. I personally dissagree with you, i completely dislike the front, it looks too small and simple.

sc43018
01-19-2006, 03:48 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CosworthKid</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Mate that was posted days ago and was the center of discussion in this forum since. I personally dissagree with you, i completely dislike the front, it looks too small and simple.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>but.... simple may be exactly what B(angle)MW needs, they havent had an instant classic like so many other car brands seem to put out lately, a simple yet advanced 3er may be the way to go

CosworthKid
01-19-2006, 09:37 PM
When i meant simple, i did not mean i wanted something extravagent instead. For example i love the 3-series headlamps,i think they look purposeful, sporty, aggresive AND simple. But these ones just look too small,rushed and far too ordinary. I would much rather it had the normal 3-series ones or an even more aggresive set since this is the Coupe and its supposed to look sportier. Also i do not agree with your comment about BMW not producing any instant classics like other makes have. I think the 6 and X5 are just that, and dont be surprised if ppl start looking back at the 5 and think "boy, that was a great looking car". <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0">

Mil
01-21-2006, 01:08 PM
i dont know if this has been posted before (too many pages)<br>here it is<p><A HREF="http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/2921/sp32200601152034117ar.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img61.imageshack.us/img...r.jpg</A><p>It might be a chop dont know...<p>SOURCE: AUTOSPIES<p><i>Edit: Keep any Autospies pics as links only please - AM2K</i><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by AM2K at 11:41 PM 1/21/2006</i>

the cheddar
01-21-2006, 02:09 PM
It's a chop. Check out the bolt pattern on the wheels -- Those are the previous-gen 5-series 17" wheels blown up to look like 22's. They're way too big. Autospies is notorious for posting this crap and calling it an "exclusive spyshot"... Regardless, I think this IS what it'll look like (minus the ginormous chopped wheels) when it arrives.

spikes111
01-24-2006, 02:02 PM
Here are some pics I haven't seen here yet (I think). <p><A HREF="http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?p=147409#post147409" TARGET="_blank">http://www.e90post.com/forums/...47409</A><p>Shape looks much better here than the last posted pics. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

SHEPO
01-24-2006, 02:12 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>SLR</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont know if this has been posted before (too many pages)<br>here it is<p><A HREF="http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/2921/sp32200601152034117ar.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img61.imageshack.us/img...r.jpg</A><p>It might be a chop dont know...<p>SOURCE: AUTOSPIES<p><i>Edit: Keep any Autospies pics as links only please - AM2K</i><p><br><i>Modified by AM2K at 11:41 PM 1/21/2006</i></TD></TR></TABLE><p>ok...don't get info from there cuz their stuff is complete bullsh!t. it's just a chop based off the 6-series with rly large wheels.

Kemble
01-24-2006, 03:37 PM
actually i think he's refering to the pictures pulled from Motor Trend.<br>this post....looks good.<br><A HREF="http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpost.php?p=147409&postcount=233" TARGET="_blank">http://www.e90post.com/forums/...t=233</A>

the cheddar
01-24-2006, 04:59 PM
Hmmm, I'm not digging this. That trunk looks too long and the greenhouse looks like it was cut and pasted from the current coupe. To me, this doesn't seem to have the integrated elegant look of the G35, which kind of set the new benchmark for coupe styling. I'm not trying to dis on BMW (that's been done ad nauseum and I drive an E46 myself) but this doesn't get me excited at all. <p>Perhaps a drive will change that but I don't know if I could own something that doesn't fire me up. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsad.gif" BORDER="0">

spikes111
02-01-2006, 10:09 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Kemble</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">actually i think he's refering to the pictures pulled from Motor Trend.<br>this post....looks good.<br><A HREF="http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpost.php?p=147409&postcount=233" TARGET="_blank">http://www.e90post.com/forums/...t=233</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Agreed. Cars look different in motion too, the E92 spyvideo from a while back looked pretty darn good to me.

DoMiNo
02-01-2006, 12:33 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>the cheddar</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hmmm, I'm not digging this. That trunk looks too long and the greenhouse looks like it was cut and pasted from the current coupe. To me, this doesn't seem to have the integrated elegant look of the G35, which kind of set the new benchmark for coupe styling. I'm not trying to dis on BMW (that's been done ad nauseum and I drive an E46 myself) but this doesn't get me excited at all. <p>Perhaps a drive will change that but I don't know if I could own something that doesn't fire me up. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsad.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Wow, my sentiments exactly. This doesn't live up the the timeless shape of the previous-gen 3er coupe, which I regard as one of the best looking vehicles on the road. You hit the nail on the head saying that the trunk looks too long, and in my opinion the greenhouse looks too... tall? I don't know what it is, exactly, but the top of the car just doesn't seem to mesh too well with the bottom. Overall I'm more impressed with the sedan than the coupe, so far.

jumpingmatt
02-02-2006, 09:30 AM
Just speculation here, but do you think the odd proportions have something to do with the forthcoming hard-top convertible? You know how those always have slightly odd proportions and relationships between the greenhouse and body - esp trunk length? Well if they wanted to keep the coupe and convert looking similar, perhaps those design difficulties have translated over to the coupe as well?<p>That would be unfortunate, and I bet they would have avoided it, but it's still interesting - most of the shots of the hard top convert we have seen so far make it out to be a close match to the coupe, with little obvious tradeoffs from the top design, but maybe that is the intangible thing we are all noticing on the coupe but overlooking on the convert...?<p>That said, one thing even light camo and odd or blacked-out wheels can easily do in a spy shot is completely distort the stance of the car. That and the tendency of the shots to be while cornering on race tracks when the body is at an odd angle...I am probably just holding out hope my instincts on this one are wrong...<br>

spikes111
02-05-2006, 05:03 PM
Attention: disregard anything Tine may have posted in this thread regarding the upcoming 335 engine. Everything he's said about knowing if the engine is turbo or NA is discredited - <p>This is Tine (including a friend) coming clean about playing a joke on everyone - <A HREF="http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12341" TARGET="_blank">http://www.e90post.com/forums/...12341</A><p><br>This kind of lying about information is exactly the type of stuff carspyshots doesn't need. People come here for credible info and you have people like this out there tricking people for their own personal joke. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0">

DSC-OFF
02-06-2006, 12:16 PM
<IMG SRC="http://media.autobild.de/bild/6/73d604397c912d930a837d28c67ec396_1.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://media.autobild.de/bild/4/ef13712ba9aa50b3756d399ce72dea64_1.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://media.autobild.de/bild/9/c639dc68146e2a6526f00a407148fc09_1.jpg" BORDER="0"><br> <br> <br>Definitely a CC<p><A HREF="http://www.autobild.de" TARGET="_blank">AutoBild</A><br> <br>

CosworthKid
02-06-2006, 01:48 PM
<A HREF="http://www.autobild.de/erlkoenige/neuheiten/artikel.php?artikel_id=10709" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autobild.de/erlkoen...10709</A><p><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by AM2K at 10:28 PM 2/6/2006</i>

conan
02-06-2006, 08:01 PM
Is has a B-pillar..?

carjunkie
02-06-2006, 08:21 PM
^ lol, thats pretty funny

LEXUS FAN!
02-06-2006, 08:53 PM
is that a chop w/ the top down?

enit
02-07-2006, 04:55 AM
<br><IMG SRC="http://www.bm3w.co.uk/ug/data/500/DSC00043.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Source: Autocar<p><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by enit at 3:19 PM 2/7/2006</i>

RikfromBelgium
02-07-2006, 05:26 AM
ok, that looks amazing <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0">

Comrade
02-07-2006, 06:58 AM
I'm reading 335i? I thought there wasn't goona be a 335i.<br>Regarding the b-pillar, I think they tried to hide the fact that it's a folding roof by making it look like a coupe with a b-pillar. Maybe, maybe not...

Zadjali
02-07-2006, 08:40 AM
"BMW's TURBO 3-series coupe" <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/eek2.gif" BORDER="0">

Ascariss
02-07-2006, 11:09 AM
perhaps there is a 335 after all? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> It looks good, now waiting for the front pics lol. Rear is tied nicely together.

dillinja
02-07-2006, 11:28 AM
the pic looks great.<br>but it is obviously a chop.<br>a 2-door car with an "i" instead of "ci" ?<p>i don't think so. <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by MOORHOUSE at 6:34 PM 2/7/2006</i>

xl5
02-07-2006, 12:01 PM
I understand that BMW is dropping the "Ci" and simply using "i". See the 630/650.

carjunkie
02-07-2006, 12:05 PM
How the hell is huckfeldt so bang on all the time? does he steal the clay models or something?

knihc2008
02-07-2006, 12:19 PM
that model looks pretty final. when does this car debut? rear looks good in a bland, not-screwed-up-in-any-bangle-butt fashion, which is good.

enit
02-07-2006, 12:25 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>carjunkie</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How the hell is huckfeldt so bang on all the time? does he steal the clay models or something?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Or maybe he is just there. At presentation. Invited. In Munich, Ingolstad, Stuttgart, Wolfsburg, etc. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>

SHEPO
02-07-2006, 01:41 PM
absolutely gorgeous <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0"> the rear looks kinda like the 850, which is a good thing. looks like BMW is going back to its traditional styling...yipee <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/tuut.gif" BORDER="0">

BMW MFreak
02-07-2006, 03:04 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>enit</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Or maybe he is just there. At presentation. Invited. In Munich, Ingolstad, Stuttgart, Wolfsburg, etc. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>That's not that far away from reality. In fact they are not invited but they are given some early sketches on which the shops are based. A designer at BMW told me. It's for teasing the people, so that they are excited about the new car.

enit
02-07-2006, 03:18 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>BMW MFreak</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>That's not that far away from reality. In fact they are not invited but they are given some early sketches on which the shops are based. A designer at BMW told me. It's for teasing the people, so that they are excited about the new car.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>But sometimes Huckfeldt's impressions are just dead on - in detail. <br>That can't be based on early sketches. It's much more. More like a clay model - or official pics of clay model or even pre-production pilot.<p>Is Huckfeldt even an existing person, or German carmakers just send PSed pics to Autobild? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

lsleelee
02-07-2006, 03:20 PM
My understanding of the 'hoax' thing was not that there wasn't going to be a 335i, but just that those guys didn't actually know anything about it.

scorpio14
02-07-2006, 04:41 PM
That looks sweet... with the Lexus IS only comin in a hard-top convert. now with no coupe model... id take this any day... <p>Gotta c official pics though...

Gian86
02-07-2006, 09:48 PM
Woah, i like this because of rear end lamp design and side styling. I hope the front end would be better than the last 3-series coupe/convertible.

CosworthKid
02-08-2006, 02:13 PM
Someone said that the last pic was obviously a chop? Well i saw that image in the actual magazine and it looked real to me, like 100%.Im sure this is the real thing. I think it looks good, but i still think i preffer the early AutoBild chops with the slightly different 3-series body, that looked mighty aggressive. This looks very close to the last AutoBild chops which is still good but..the rear lights remind me too much of the facelifted 7-series..and relating a 7 with a coupe 3 is just too weird for me. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

enit
02-08-2006, 08:41 PM
<IMG SRC="http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/6761/e92p13cd.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>More to come ...

against the wall
02-08-2006, 08:57 PM
source....

DoMiNo
02-08-2006, 08:57 PM
*GASP!* Could it be? Finally??

SV
02-08-2006, 09:10 PM
it may be a small picture, but that really looks like a chop to me, there's just not enough "depth" to it, i guess you could say...

enit
02-08-2006, 09:21 PM
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JBlair
02-08-2006, 09:22 PM
That would be a chop.............

Comrade
02-08-2006, 09:25 PM
jeez.. why is everybody so eager to start a New Cars thread even tho the manufacturer hasn't made a press release?