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Ascariss
12-16-2004, 09:39 PM
old thread:<br><A HREF="http://carspyshots.proboards2.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=spy&num=1084393701&start=0" TARGET="_blank">http://carspyshots.proboards2....art=0</A><p>This looks like the GC. The size doesnt look much different, but maybe its just the camo playing with my eyes<br><IMG SRC="http://info.detnews.com/dn/pix/sneakpeek/cars/06wagoneer.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Jeep to launch luxury Grand Wagoneer<p>Chrysler plans to follow up the launch this fall of the redesigned Jeep Grand Cherokee with the introduction in mid-2005 of a more luxurious variant that may be called Grand Wagoneer.<p>Aimed at such premium sport utility vehicles as the Volkswagen Touareg, the upscale Jeep is expected to feature a longer wheelbase to accommodate a third row of seats -- a complaint among some buyers of the current Grand Cherokee, which does not have a third row. It likely will have a plusher cabin and will offer buyers a choice of V-8 engines, probably a 4.7-liter unit and the 5.7-liter Hemi.<br> <br>Sticker price will be close to $40,000.<br> -- Paul Lienert</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Source: detnews<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>MB-FAN</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i coudlnt find the original thread if there was but here are some new spy pictures<p><A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?n=178&sid=178&article=7349" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co...=7349</A><p>were not allowed to post tcc pictures right?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Continue the discussion here.

Chris_Doane
12-23-2004, 01:00 AM
New spy pics....finally we can see some of it.<br><A HREF="http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=29&article_id=9058&page_number=1" TARGET="_blank">http://www.caranddriver.com/ar...ber=1</A>

Ascariss
12-23-2004, 01:08 AM
extracted the pic:<p><A HREF="http://www.caranddriver.com/assets/image/1222200418263.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.caranddriver.com/as...3.jpg</A><p>it looks like a box and its not a good looking box. Reminds of a korean SUV I saw before. Hmm, Terracan is it? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/all_coholic.gif" BORDER="0">

jasmo
12-23-2004, 06:50 AM
I was expecting this to look like a stretched Grand Cherokee, but this is even worse in my opinion. I realize that there is still alot of camouflage on this thing, but the design elements that are in view, reveal a design that would have been cutting edge about twenty years ago. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0">

bolita
12-23-2004, 08:18 AM
Its looks as its even more angular than the Discovery however the overhangs look too long so it looks odd to me. I really dont like the truck/SUV styling direction for DCX and this preview ratifys my position <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Another thing I just noticed is that the rear door glass is transparent...Euro model or Gulf States???

syclone
12-23-2004, 08:43 AM
Wow, it really is going to be a complete box. Are they trying to steal sales from the H2? What is the point?

Roadster44
12-23-2004, 10:58 AM
reminds me of the G-Wagen.

bolita
12-23-2004, 11:35 AM
Even though I am not happy with what I've seen so far I'll let the jury out until I see the complete box... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/2cool.gif" BORDER="0">

jjazz0092002
12-23-2004, 11:41 AM
Hey Ya'll This is a photo chop of a jeep grand cherokee and i made it look like a commander by the looks of the spy shots. PS- i used paint.

jro4566
12-23-2004, 11:54 AM
I hope they fix the Boston Acoustics system this time. The one in the 300C is great, but the Grand Cherokee suffers from a smaller amplifier.

AXIS
12-23-2004, 12:32 PM
I really hope it turns out looking like the rescue concept from last year

VexedandGlorious
12-23-2004, 12:36 PM
some hummer beater its looks just like one from the side. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emdgust.gif" BORDER="0">

Charger
03-10-2005, 02:52 PM
I hope this is a chop because Im really dissapointed in the design. This is the real deal though, it matches the spy pics exactly. I was hoping for a Rescue look.I mean it looks ok but just a tad too old looking. Ill hold my judgement till I see more pics<br> <IMG SRC="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/skidsmadawg96/4afa6bd8.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br>source: Detroit Free Press

RGAddison
03-10-2005, 02:58 PM
what happened to the styling?, It just looks like a modern wagoneer, so sad , they think this will steal sales from the H2, I think not

Kakairo
03-10-2005, 03:03 PM
That front end can't be real. Jeep has been pushing the circular headlamp look lately, I can't imagine they would go back now. Hopefully the rest of it will look different as well.

Santeno
03-10-2005, 03:20 PM
That pic seems a bit crude, and that comment about jeep using the round headlamps is accurate, though they did surprise us with the headlight treatment on the new GC. Does this image remind anyone of a streched MB G-Class? I guess if it's accurate we now know what will happen to it when MB drops it. ;o)

Dodger
03-10-2005, 03:23 PM
It simply CANNOT look like this, it just CAN'T!

LoneWolf
03-10-2005, 03:25 PM
This reminds me of that photo of the Chinese/Asian-market Cherokee that's been floating around the Web for a while. Ugh!

Charger
03-10-2005, 03:57 PM
a while back I thought the spy pics looked like this<br> <IMG SRC="http://auta5p.car.cz/katalog/beijing_jeep/jeep2500_01.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br>source: autoa

SV
03-10-2005, 04:03 PM
wow. there have been a few disapointing designs i've seen, but this takes the cake (if it's real, which i hope it isn't). it just looks so...odd, the styling makes it look like all the weight is centered over the rear wheels. the headlights are just wierd too, they just don't work on this car. like santeno and kakairo mentioned, jeep has been putting circular headlamps on their SUVs lately, and IMO this would have looked tons better with them(although it wouldn't help the terrible proportions). hopefully this is just a photoshop.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by SV at 5:12 PM 3/10/2005</i>

Dan J.
03-10-2005, 04:06 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Charger</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I hope this is a chop because Im really dissapointed in the design. This is the real deal though, it matches the spy pics exactly. I was hoping for a Rescue look.I mean it looks ok but just a tad too old looking. Ill hold my judgement till I see more pics<br> <IMG SRC="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v645/skidsmadawg96/4afa6bd8.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br>source: Detroit Free Press</TD></TR></TABLE> The 1980's called they want their Grand Cherokee back. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0">

Charger
03-10-2005, 04:28 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>RepoMan</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> The 1980's called they want their Grand Cherokee back. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><br>If youre gunna make a joke about cars at least get them right. The Grand Cherokee was not produced in the 80's. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Superfresa
03-10-2005, 05:22 PM
For one part, I'm always enthusiastic about versatile, trully capable offroaders like this. However, as I am not all that familiar with the Comando, I have a few questions.<p>1. Could this hold relation to the Wrangles LWB that will be launched. Or even, could It be it?<br>2. Is this meant to be an extreme offroader (wrangler-Defender-Land Cruiser) or more like a capable SUV? (Discovery-Prado-Pajero-Grand Cherokee)?<p>I don't think its fair to judge its ugliness so early, because It is clear for me that It wont look that bad.

Charger
03-10-2005, 06:02 PM
Im sure it will look WAY better once we see good pics and new colors. This picture does this suv no justice.

1966_GTO_
03-10-2005, 06:25 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Charger</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im sure it will look WAY better once we see good pics and new colors. This picture does this suv no justice.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I would love to agree with you, but I am pretty sure this thing is just ugly. What were they thinking? The Grand Cherokee for '05 was a styling downgrade IMO and now they add this to the lineup... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0">

JBlair
03-10-2005, 07:35 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>1966_GTO_</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I would love to agree with you, but I am pretty sure this thing is just ugly. What were they thinking? The Grand Cherokee for '05 was a styling downgrade IMO and now they add this to the lineup... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Who knows if this is real? There is no verification yet from DCX, so wait and see and stop passing judgement based on a pic printed on dumpy newspaper.<p>EDIT: The door handles are different on this picture, and some of the other styling doesn't match up. Personally, it looks like someone chopped a liberty and some other things into this.

Dodger
03-10-2005, 09:19 PM
I'm pretty sure there is no way in hell that DCX would put out something that looked like this... I hope

Andre
03-11-2005, 01:02 AM
This is the real deal.... jeep does seem stuckin the psat for this design. Kinda sucks really<p>Hope it works well, and that's all you need from an offroader

Hornbag
03-11-2005, 03:35 AM
The only thing this Commands is a make ova!

Banker
03-11-2005, 05:35 AM
This is the ugliest SUV I have ever seen. Surely this can't be the real deal. Jeep must be trying to commit suicide.<p>I hope this is some kind of joke. Or maybe this is so we will all say that the current GC is good looking.<p>I think I am going to barf.

Charger
03-11-2005, 07:22 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Banker</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is the ugliest SUV I have ever seen. Surely this can't be the real deal. Jeep must be trying to commit suicide.<p>I hope this is some kind of joke. Or maybe this is so we will all say that the current GC is good looking.<p>I think I am going to barf.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Like I said before, wait till you see better pics. And the current GC is good looking. Once you see things up close and personal they look better.

AM2
03-11-2005, 07:52 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Charger</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Like I said before, wait till you see better pics. And the current GC is good looking. Once you see things up close and personal they look better.</TD></TR></TABLE><br><IMG SRC="http://img102.exs.cx/img102/7892/jeepcommanderspypic6rs.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>The current GC is good looking... but this is the Commander. And if this is the real thing, better pics won't make the design look any better...<br>Get a world class photographer to shoot the AMC Pacer and it still wouldn't look like a pretty car. <p>It looks like it was designed about the same time as the compact Cherokee of the 80's and 90's...<br><IMG SRC="http://images.automotive.com/review_images/97cherok_p.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>I hope this isn't the real Commander... <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by AM2 at 10:59 PM 3/11/2005</i>

Charger
03-11-2005, 07:57 AM
Actually I like it more now after seeing that blown up pic.

AXIS
03-11-2005, 11:28 AM
WHAT THE HELL IS THIS? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/angry.gif" BORDER="0"> I am disappointed, I loved the Rescue concept and had high hopes that JEEP's 7 seater would be a knockout just like it. This Commander is just downright FUGLY wake up JEEP It's 2005 leave the retro designs in the past where they belong <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/pukeface.gif" BORDER="0">

Banker
03-11-2005, 11:59 AM
If Jeep brings the awful design to market then Jeep and DCX will be the laughing stock of the SUV market. Hummer will just continue to steal more sales with the H2 and H3.<p>To think that GM has new full sized SUV's coming in a year.... they will absolutely kill this FUGLY vehicle.<p>No picture could make this look any worse or better.<p>Please let this be some kind of early April Fool's joke.

bolita
03-11-2005, 12:05 PM
If you ask me...thats simply a chop based on the XJ (80s) Cherokee streched and tweaked with .<p>I would guess that the chop was based on the Chinese (Beijing Jeep) Cherokee <p><IMG SRC="http://www.beijing-jeep.com/images/bj2003_001.jpg" BORDER="0"><br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0">

1966_GTO_
03-11-2005, 01:10 PM
That looks like a pretty pathetic attempt... I guess that's how the nose will look but it is just stuck on a mid 90's Cherokee. I am impatiently waiting for the official pics...

Philsshon
03-11-2005, 01:12 PM
no way yhe front is going to look like that, but i guess will found out at the NYAS

Bluesman
03-11-2005, 01:15 PM
Here's my take:<p>I see what looks like a solid front axle, and since they did away with that on the 05' JGC I say this one's a fake.....<p>I second that comment about it looking like a Chinese copy, my first thoughts exactly.

Andre
03-11-2005, 03:04 PM
<IMG SRC="http://img102.exs.cx/img102/7892/jeepcommanderspypic6rs.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Compared to<p><A HREF="http://www.caranddriver.com/assets/image/1222200418263.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.caranddriver.com/as...3.jpg</A><p>trust me folks, it's the real deal. Everything lines up perfectly from the spy shot to the magazine scan.<p>I know you're in denial, just get into the right mindset and realize the truth. Denial is just a river.<br>

turbonium959
03-11-2005, 03:37 PM
I think this is the real deal as well. I too saw this prototype picture before, and was pretty disappointed about it. Now that I saw this new picture, I think DCX is nuts! If they think this SUV will go up against Suburban(Yukon)/Excursion(Expedition), I do not think there is a chance for this truck to be successful.

Tidal
03-11-2005, 03:50 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Andre</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">trust me folks, it's the real deal. Everything lines up perfectly from the spy shot to the magazine scan.<p>I know you're in denial, just get into the right mindset and realize the truth. Denial is just a river.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yes, in Egypt. But:<p>1 - You can't see the headlights in the spy pic. All you can see are the blinkers, the Cherokee/Liberty had similar ones, but with a completely different face ( the round light thing ).<br>2 - The door sizes are different, and the rear window isn't divided in the sketch. In fact, i think the hole window line is wrong. <br>3 - After seeing that sketch, denial is a normal reaction, and if it ever becomes real, so will depression.<br>4 - The wheels look really small. They are the same on the spy pic, but still... that supports the Chinese theory.<br>5 - And finally, the 80's aren't cool yet when it comes to cars. Jeeps usually have a very modern look, this just looks outdated.<p>I really hope i'm right on this one. That sketch looks really bad.<br> <br>

JBlair
03-11-2005, 04:42 PM
The Freepress pic is fake. The detailing is not the same as the mule. The door handles are different than the ones on the mule, the wheels in the pic are directly from a mule, and the FP pic doesn't have the window divider in the rear door glass to allow the window to roll down all the way. Also, the side indicator is much larger than the one in the spy pic, and the whole size of the vehicle is inconsistent with the spy pics. My guess is that this is a chop using liberty and other Jeep parts. It ain't real folks...............

Charger
03-11-2005, 04:46 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Freepress pic is fake. The detailing is not the same as the mule. The door handles are different than the ones on the mule, the wheels in the pic are directly from a mule, and the FP pic doesn't have the window divider in the rear door glass to allow the window to roll down all the way. Also, the side indicator is much larger than the one in the spy pic, and the whole size of the vehicle is inconsistent with the spy pics. My guess is that this is a chop using liberty and other Jeep parts. It ain't real folks...............</TD></TR></TABLE><br>I hope you are right but camo cars can always be different than the real thing. Those things you mentioned dont necessarily need to be the same on both the camoed car and the real thing.

SV
03-11-2005, 05:19 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Charger</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Actually I like it more now after seeing that blown up pic.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>i agree, it's starting to look a little better. but still, i can't help but wonder how much better it would have looked like with circular rescue-style headlights.

Marlon_JBT
03-11-2005, 05:19 PM
LOL @ the pic... it's watermarked now. Don't blame the poor guy.<p>It's real folks.... no Photoshopping, no picking Jeeps for parts.... all real. Deny it all you want, this is what will be on the showroom floor, and people will buy it too.<p>Also, different trim levels can have different doorhandles, BTW...

against the wall
03-11-2005, 05:40 PM
wow i cant believe this<br>jeep was startin to get better but now this<p>this thing isnt gonna command anything

VexedandGlorious
03-11-2005, 05:41 PM
this pic has to be real, its on XKJEEPS.com,<br>they have a whole page on predicted freatures.<p>i really dont like it, what ever happend to jeep saying the next suvs will have twin round headlamps

JBlair
03-11-2005, 06:14 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Marlon_JBT</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LOL @ the pic... it's watermarked now. Don't blame the poor guy.<p>It's real folks.... no Photoshopping, no picking Jeeps for parts.... all real. Deny it all you want, this is what will be on the showroom floor, and people will buy it too.<p>Also, different trim levels can have different doorhandles, BTW...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>How do you know? Have you seen it?

creon448
03-11-2005, 10:04 PM
Calm down. You can't base your entire opinion on how this vehicle is designed on this rather small and low resolution picture. In less than two weeks time the Commander will be unveiled to the public. At least wait until then to make final judgements.

Bluesman
03-12-2005, 01:37 PM
Think about that for a minute, "it has to be real because I read about it on the internet"...............

VexedandGlorious
03-12-2005, 04:09 PM
pics will be up a day or two before, and dont ask how i know, they always are.<p>Bluesman i was making a point that the pics are everywhere, most likely in a mag too. there where some difficult to see picks about a year or 2 before the current GC cameout, every said they were fake but they were very acuate to what the real model looks like.

ToronadoGT
03-12-2005, 04:30 PM
My only comment is that the only thing that this Jeep will command is laughter from HUMMER owners. <p>P.S. Jeep, old AMC executives called. They want their Cherokee back.

Superfresa
03-12-2005, 07:08 PM
Hummer owners can't laugh at any other SUV on earth, unless were talking about an H1.

Bluesman
03-12-2005, 09:23 PM
I finally figured out what the Jeep 2500 means on the license plate. This is a 3/4 ton Jeep.....<p>Hmmmmmm.

Charger
03-13-2005, 07:31 AM
Heres some more pics. I really like this. That first pic was no good but these ones make it look awesome. <br> <IMG SRC="http://xkjeeps.com/photos/2006_commander_003.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://xkjeeps.com/photos/2006_commander_002.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://xkjeeps.com/photos/2006_commander_001.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br>source: xkjeeps

Charger
03-13-2005, 08:03 AM
I lightened up the pic and it really looks good. I can so see rappers and pro sports players buying these. It looks very G-class and Cherokee.<br><A HREF="http://www.imageshack.us" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img173.exs.cx/img173/443/2006commander005gw.jpg" BORDER="0"></A><br>source: xkjeeps

Superfresa
03-13-2005, 08:14 AM
Hmm looks a lot nicer, although I hope they give the interiour some more work, because it looks dated. But the car does look pretty good...

Krypton
03-13-2005, 08:35 AM
looks good but looks a bit like the new mahindra

Dodger
03-13-2005, 08:43 AM
These pics do make it look a lot better although I am not quite sold on the whole thing. I am not too sure how the boxy design will age and I am not too impressed with the interior. I think the front end could have been done in a different way too

against the wall
03-13-2005, 09:08 AM
i guess the car does look a little bit better but i still dont like it

Charger
03-13-2005, 09:31 AM
I lightened up the interior pic and it looks very nice.<br>It didnt look the best when it was darker<br><A HREF="http://www.imageshack.us" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img173.exs.cx/img173/2455/2006commander00131iw.jpg" BORDER="0"></A>

GerjurdKing
03-13-2005, 09:41 AM
This is an odd one. To me it looks more like an '86 Jeep rather than an '06. I guess its the boxy design and those awful front lights. I really don't mind that it is boxy because Im a huge G-wagen fan but those front lights just don't work.

1966_GTO_
03-13-2005, 10:33 AM
The interior is impressive. Looks luxurious and I'm sure it's roomy.

ToronadoGT
03-13-2005, 03:03 PM
Well, now that I've seen the Limited, I actually kind of like it. I think this would look good in the green color we've seen on the Rescue concept (which actually was a preview for the Wrangler, not this).<p>Just wondering, but, how many concepts have previewed a new Wranger? Let's see, we have Icon, Hurricane, Rescue...

JBlair
03-13-2005, 03:59 PM
Hey guess I was right; the Free Press picture was a chop............

Charger
03-13-2005, 04:01 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey guess I was right; the Free Press picture was a chop............</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Why do you say that?

JBlair
03-13-2005, 04:30 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Charger</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why do you say that?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The front is different. Look very carefully at the headlamps and turn signals.....................

against the wall
03-13-2005, 04:45 PM
nice find but now the problem is: which one is real

Charger
03-13-2005, 05:12 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The front is different. Look very carefully at the headlamps and turn signals.....................</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Im sure it was a clay model or something like that. It wasnt a chop

ResumeSpeed
03-13-2005, 05:43 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>carfan223</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nice find but now the problem is: which one is real</TD></TR></TABLE><br>There is absolutely NO QUESTION that the new shots of the black Commander are real, 100% authentic all the way.

VexedandGlorious
03-13-2005, 06:53 PM
i see i was right that there were picks on xk jeeps, its looks ok but i think jeep tried to be a little to boxy and aggressive.

Charger
03-13-2005, 06:55 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Graffititech</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i see i was right that there were picks on xk jeeps, its looks ok but i think jeep tried to be a little to boxy and aggressive.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>What do you mean YOU were right? I was shown these last week. I knew they were there and many others did too. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0">

VexedandGlorious
03-13-2005, 06:57 PM
i didnt mean in that way, calm down, iwasnt sure if there were pics there. something i said to myself at home.

JBlair
03-13-2005, 07:20 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Charger</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im sure it was a clay model or something like that. It wasnt a chop</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I believe, since the embargo is not up yet, that Free Press actually chopped one of the press pics to give a preview, but not the whole thing. DCX wouldn't let them show a clay model, especially with the real thing so close to being unveiled.

Charger
03-13-2005, 07:42 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I believe, since the embargo is not up yet, that Free Press actually chopped one of the press pics to give a preview, but not the whole thing. DCX wouldn't let them show a clay model, especially with the real thing so close to being unveiled.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It might have been chopped or it could have been a pre production Commander. DCX did the same with the Charger. When the Charger first came out it had a few minor changes. Anywho...<br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">"It is what other SUVs can only hope to be."<p>"This fall the all-new Jeep Commander will offer you more of everything that you've come to expect from a Jeep vehicle. The result of more than 60 years of building industry-leading 4x4s, the Commander is all Jeep brand, inside and out - a ruggedly styled SUV with a well-appointed interior which provides versatility and compliments an adventurous lifestyle."<p>"Commander is the first Jeep vehicle with three rows of seating. And stadium-style seating - second row seating is slightly higher than the front, and third-row slightly higher still - provides a better inside/outside view for passengers. An available large front-row power sunroof and CommandView dual skylights above the second row open Commander's cabin, treating driver and passenger to an "open-roof" sensation. Fold-flat seats and automatic folding head restraints create increased cargo storage."<p>"Commander, like all Jeep 4x4s, has the capability to confidently go where you want. It's equipped with the Electronic Stability Program (ESP) - which helps maintain the vehicle's stability regardless of raod surface or weather conditions - the available QuadraDrive II system and industry exclusive Electronic Limited Slip Differentials (ELSD), Commander power comes from a choice of three engines: 3.7-Liter V6, 4.7-Liter V8, and even the brawny 5.7-Liter HEMI V8."<p>"Commander is designed to provide the most civilized motoring experience even in the most brutal driving conditions on-road or off. Broad-shouldered seats with dual firmness foam provide form-fitting comfort. Available Yuma Limited leather trim with perforated insert and criss-cross centerstitch displays a look as classic as a leather bomber jacket. Backseat passengers can tune in to an entertainment center that features a single-disc DVD player at the rear of the center floor console, overhead-mounted video screen, wireless remote control and two sets of wireless headphones."<p>"The available satellite navigation system offers full-screen (5.8 inches) map color display that uses thin film transistor, Liquid Crystal Display for easy viewing suring daylight or at night. Interior conveniences and safety features include front windows with express up-and-down, and door modules that control window motion and sense for pinch conditions during closing procedures. And drivers are aided by Commander's Park Sense rear back-up system - it alerts the driver to obstacles located immediately behind the vehicle."<p>"Commander - an all together fresh expression of the essence of the Jeep brand. One look at it's all-new design and you're sure to say "Now that is a Jeep 4x4". It is what other SUVs can only hope to be."<p>-XKJeeps.com</TD></TR></TABLE>

Aston Martin
03-13-2005, 09:16 PM
I hate to be the one to go against the grain here, but i think that thing his hideous. It looks really narrow and tall. What on earth were they thinking with the headlights? As for the interior... the retro wheel is cool but that is about it. It seems like a high school student could have designed the flat boxy dash board. Jeep definately looked better with the sleek styling of the previous generation and the current Grand Cherokee wouldn't be half bad if the headlights didn't look like Mickey Mouse ears. I think Jeep has a lot of potential but they aren't living up to it. But i suppose we can be thankful they haven't made a cross-over yet. <p>This design reminds me of ----&gt; <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/images/smilies/sponge.gif" BORDER="0">

Pavilion
03-13-2005, 09:30 PM
My first car was a 94 Cherokee so the design i see here is dear to my heart, but i agree with those who say that the design is dated. The new jeeps such as the GC and Lib seem to have a common "DNA" that these pics lack.(IMO of course)

Bass-o-Matic
03-14-2005, 11:30 AM
This is a camouflaged Commander. Look at the front fender/ wheel opening. There's no overfender visible, as there is on the rear wheel opening. The front combination lamp is incompletely covered by what looks to be black vinyl (which could explain why the lamp shape doesn't seem to wrap around onto the fender as much as the earlier Freep photo did. Finally, a sign that this is not an official photo is the fact that the front tire (closest to the viewer is crudely trimmed (does not represent what it actually looks like) and there's no shadow. I think somebody shot a prototype that's not quite all there (at least, not visibly).<p>I will say that the interior is a final shot, including the seats (which will feature really clean stitchwork and a cool cross-stitch center seam).<p>When I first saw this shot, for what it's worth, I thought it looked like a Trooper II (Where's CarMattZu when you need an Isuzu reference?)... I don't think it's a chop of one, mind you, but it is interesting to note the tall,narrow looking greenhouse's similarity to an old Trooper II.

AXIS
03-14-2005, 02:18 PM
Kudos to Jeep for building the Maibatsu Monstrosity, anyone else notice the UNCANNY resemblence to the 1st gen Isuzu Trooper <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0"> <br><IMG SRC="http://www.hillsedge.com/images/vehicles/87%20Trooper%20Blue%204885_resized.JPG" BORDER="0">

Superfresa
03-14-2005, 03:23 PM
ermmm.... Oh yeah, It's got 4 wheels! Fraud!.... ermmm nope I didn't notice the resemblance.<p>Don't let Carmattzu see this.... lol!

CarMattZu777
03-14-2005, 05:45 PM
Fortunately, the Isuzu was much better looking :) :), and I guess that means it was 25 years ahead of its time!

Charger
03-14-2005, 05:47 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CarMattZu777</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Fortunately, the Isuzu was much better looking :) :), and I guess that means it was 25 years ahead of its time!</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Actually its not better looking.

nismospeed
03-14-2005, 06:29 PM
I think it's a giant step backwards for Jeep. I was the one who took some spy pics of this car over the summer, and while it looked substantial in person, it also looked more aggressive with the camo on. It just doesn't look tough enough; like it was designed by committee and they pulled and prodded at the design to appease management. It also strays from classic Jeep forms, which were just starting to gain momentum again. Dieter needs to re-evaluate how Jeep can better position the brands unique heritage in a way that is more in tune with the current market instead of 1986. I'll reserve final judgment until I see the final product in person, but for now this appears to be a big thumbs down.

Superfresa
03-14-2005, 06:53 PM
When the LR3's first pics came out, everyone hated the thing. Now most of us love the car. The same happened with many other cars, Mazda 6 being another example, although I'm unsure if in this forum, but it was a general thought. For this reason, my expectations on this car are quite high.

JagZ
03-15-2005, 10:54 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Superfresa</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When the LR3's first pics came out, everyone hated the thing.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Nope, that was not the case. Everyone like the LR3, they just were'nt sure about the rear. But yes some have grown to love the rear.<p>BTW, did anyone notice the stepped roof on this Jeep. Hmmmm<p><IMG SRC="http://xkjeeps.com/photos/2006_commander_003.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>But I think the main question is does this Jeep go off-road. That rear overhang is huge!<p><IMG SRC="http://info.detnews.com/dn/pix/sneakpeek/cars/06wagoneer.jpg" BORDER="0">

Charger
03-15-2005, 01:36 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JagZ</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nope, that was not the case. Everyone like the LR3, they just were'nt sure about the rear. But yes some have grown to love the rear.<p>BTW, did anyone notice the stepped roof on this Jeep. Hmmmm<p>But I think the main question is does this Jeep go off-road. That rear overhang is huge!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It has a stepped roof because the 2nd row is higher than the first and the 3rd row is higher than the 2nd. It has stadium seating

JagZ
03-15-2005, 03:11 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Charger</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>It has a stepped roof because the 2nd row is higher than the first and the 3rd row is higher than the 2nd. It has stadium seating</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Too similar to Land Rovers trademark stepped roof. The xterra did this also.<p>

Charger
03-15-2005, 03:13 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JagZ</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Too similar to Land Rovers trademark stepped roof. The xterra did this also.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Do they have stadium seating?

Dodger
03-15-2005, 03:15 PM
Yeah, but there really isn't much else they can do with the way they have the seats set up. A plain slanted roof would look funny

CarMattZu777
03-15-2005, 04:14 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Charger</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Actually its not better looking.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well the Jeep ppl sure liked it <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0">

SV
03-15-2005, 05:25 PM
the limited picture looks way better, i might actually grow to like it a little. the interior is OK too, but it looks like it might have hard plastics like in the new grand cherokee (of course i can't tell from the picture)

JagZ
03-15-2005, 05:38 PM
Actually you know what? I don't think those photos are legit! Something seems off with that exterior photo. The whole hood and lights, I don't see any clear corners and the rear fender with the bolts showing doesn't match the front. Hmmm?<p><IMG SRC="http://xkjeeps.com/photos/2006_commander_003.jpg" BORDER="0">

piokor
03-15-2005, 05:48 PM
<IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/pukeface.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>First the Grand Cherokee and now this. It seems as though Jeep is trying to make their vehicles look horrible on purpose...no one can call this car attractive. The last generation Grand Cherokee was wonderfully designed, but it's like they want to compete against Hummer and they took three steps backward. I just can't get over the fact that this car looks so akward in the front...

SV
03-15-2005, 06:23 PM
actually yeah i thought there was something wrong with it, but i could be scanned from a magazine or press release maybe

ResumeSpeed
03-15-2005, 07:01 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>SV</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> ...but i could be scanned from a magazine or press release maybe</TD></TR></TABLE><br>You are correct. Some touch-up had to be done but nothing that altered the overall appearance I was told.

bolita
03-16-2005, 07:27 AM
Well I guess we are a few days away from getting the actual pix.<p>I still have a very hard time believing that it will look like those pix.<p>Another comment, the interior pix on WKJeeps is the same as the Durango, correct?

JBlair
03-16-2005, 09:12 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bolita</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well I guess we are a few days away from getting the actual pix.<p>I still have a very hard time believing that it will look like those pix.<p>Another comment, the interior pix on WKJeeps is the same as the Durango, correct?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>No, the interior is 100% different than the durango as far as the design is concerned.

Charger
03-17-2005, 08:18 AM
Heres some new spy pics<br><A HREF="http://autoweek.com/images/news/101993" TARGET="_blank">http://autoweek.com/images/news/101993</A><br><A HREF="http://www.autoweek.com/files/weekart/2005/0321/jeepcommander_rear.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoweek.com/files/...r.jpg</A><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In a matter of days Jeep will unveil the 2006 Commander at the New York auto show, and were told the real deal will differ from recently published photographs, as well as those making the rounds on the web. As detailed in these spy shots, Commander is also quite different in design from its stablemate, the Grand Cherokee.<p>Commander is larger, with a more upright windshield and single-headlight setup, and an extended rear overhang for third-row seating. Commander does share the traditional Jeep seven-slot grille and the Cherokees powertrain lineup, including a standard V6 and two optional V8s. Commander goes on sale this fall.</TD></TR></TABLE>

JBlair
03-17-2005, 09:14 AM
The headlamps in that pic almost looks round!

Charger
03-17-2005, 09:40 AM
I hope they are round. But Ill have to wait and see.<br>From the spy pics it doesnt look like there is enough room for those lights that we saw earlier.

GerjurdKing
03-17-2005, 10:55 AM
The only thing that will save this for me is a different front end from what we've seen. Round lights can do that...let's hope.

ResumeSpeed
03-17-2005, 11:46 PM
It's more than obvious from the spy shots, especially the most recent, that the headlamps will not be "round" like what is on the Grand Cherokee and other Jeeps. The spy shots look the same as the pics of the black Commander that have been floating around the past week, headlamps contained in a square bezel.

Hornbag
03-18-2005, 04:36 AM
It could just be their descise tho...<p>Or they could be creating yet another Jeep identity...<p>Or they could be smoking somthing really strong...<br>

LEXUS FAN!
03-18-2005, 05:33 PM
new revealing spy shots that shows those pictures are very accurate<p><A HREF="http://www2.autospies.com/article/index.asp?articleId=4177" TARGET="_blank">http://www2.autospies.com/arti...=4177</A>

sc43018
03-19-2005, 12:46 PM
The article says that the platform for this jeep will also be for the next G-class??? ......the G-Class sharing its structure with jeep......i think i may go kill myself now......

creon448
03-19-2005, 02:05 PM
This platform is a stretched version of the Grand Cherokee.

LoneWolf
03-19-2005, 05:09 PM
The dealers thought it was a joke?! That says it all. <p>Ohhhhhhhh....my poor Jeep! C'mon, guys! Get with it!

VexedandGlorious
03-19-2005, 05:28 PM
the mclass shares a platform with the current GC, and it didnt come out bad,besides i dont think Benz would rely on an american made platform.

LEXUS FAN!
03-19-2005, 05:36 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>LoneWolf</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The dealers thought it was a joke?! That says it all. <p>Ohhhhhhhh....my poor Jeep! C'mon, guys! Get with it!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>they thought it was a joke that it shared a platform with the G-class???????

creon448
03-19-2005, 05:37 PM
no, the vehicle it self.

LEXUS FAN!
03-19-2005, 05:55 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>creon448</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no, the vehicle it self.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>haha...how stupid can they be?

Krypton
03-19-2005, 06:01 PM
They thought it was a joke because its so ugly, not that their stupid

LEXUS FAN!
03-19-2005, 06:21 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Krypton</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They thought it was a joke because its so ugly, not that their stupid</TD></TR></TABLE><p>oh i see...haha<p>well then they have reasonable reasons to laugh

Hornbag
03-19-2005, 09:17 PM
Those pictures do this car not justice at all. Actually, nothing does...<p>I still dont get the headlight thing tho...Jeep said this was to be a new trademark, didnt they?

JBlair
03-19-2005, 11:42 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ResumeSpeed</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's more than obvious from the spy shots, especially the most recent, that the headlamps will not be "round" like what is on the Grand Cherokee and other Jeeps. The spy shots look the same as the pics of the black Commander that have been floating around the past week, headlamps contained in a square bezel.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Jeep very recently (as in Wednesday or Thursday of last week) said publicly that the black photos that were floating around were very innacurate when it came to the design of the front and of the headlamps. Just check out AutoWeek (I believe that is where the article was).

Hornbag
03-19-2005, 11:48 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Jeep very recently (as in Wednesday or Thursday of last week) said publicly that the black photos that were floating around were very innacurate when it came to the design of the front and of the headlamps. Just check out AutoWeek (I believe that is where the article was). </TD></TR></TABLE><p>But remember, when the BMW 3 series photoes were leaked, Beemer denyed it and said they were very different...but look, they arnt! I supose they just dont wana rewin the suprise! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/pukeface.gif" BORDER="0">

JBlair
03-20-2005, 12:37 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hornbag</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">But remember, when the BMW 3 series photoes were leaked, Beemer denyed it and said they were very different...but look, they arnt! I supose they just dont wana rewin the suprise! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/pukeface.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>when exactly did BMW ever deny that those pictures were of the 3er. ( in fact most people believe that BMW 'leaked' them).

ResumeSpeed
03-20-2005, 04:47 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Jeep very recently (as in Wednesday or Thursday of last week) said publicly that the black photos that were floating around were very innacurate when it came to the design of the front and of the headlamps. Just check out AutoWeek (I believe that is where the article was). </TD></TR></TABLE><br>This is not true!! Jeep did NOT make any comment on the photos of the black Commander. This was something that Autoweek came up with and is totally without merit. The photos of the black Commander are real, and what you see Wednesday at the unveiling is not going to be any different other than they will show all of the different colors. The site that originally posted the black pics, XKJeeps.com added some updated versions of the same photos today that are of much higher quality.<br> <br>

Charger
03-20-2005, 04:55 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ResumeSpeed</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is not true!! Jeep did NOT make any comment on the photos of the black Commander. This was something that Autoweek came up with and is totally without merit. The photos of the black Commander are real, and what you see Wednesday at the unveiling is not going to be any different other than they will show all of the different colors. The site that originally posted the black pics, XKJeeps.com added some updated versions of the same photos today that are of much higher quality.<br> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yes, you are correct. They are the real pics. XKJeeps switched all the old pics and now have up more proportionate pictures, the other ones were messed up. The first time I posted the pics they were messed up, but if you go back to the first couple of pages you will notice that they are all changed to the new pics. Ill post them here so you dont have to look back.<br> <IMG SRC="http://xkjeeps.com/photos/2006_commander_002.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://xkjeeps.com/photos/2006_commander_004.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://xkjeeps.com/photos/2006_commander_001.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://xkjeeps.com/photos/2006_commander_003.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br>source: xkjeeps

Dodger
03-20-2005, 05:28 PM
Alright, I have to say that I am starting to like this. These new pics are much sharper and cleaner. When we get actual clear, ungrainy pics, I think more of you will like it. I think the black is kind of hiding the true characteristics

fockerRN
03-20-2005, 09:13 PM
I hope this monstrosity fails miserably for Jeep. I feel that this is a major letdown. The Cherokee, which this obviously tries to mimic, was a rugged and handsome truck. This Commander looks bloated and disproportiante. I mean, I'll have to make my final decision on Saturday at the NY Auto Show, but as far as these pictures go, wow, what a huge disappointment.

JBlair
03-20-2005, 10:45 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ResumeSpeed</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is not true!! Jeep did NOT make any comment on the photos of the black Commander. This was something that Autoweek came up with and is totally without merit. The photos of the black Commander are real, and what you see Wednesday at the unveiling is not going to be any different other than they will show all of the different colors. The site that originally posted the black pics, XKJeeps.com added some updated versions of the same photos today that are of much higher quality.<br> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I am only playing the devil's advocate here, but how do you know what Jeep did or did not say? Automotive news outlets do not make up information and then state that it came directly from the company (only an idiot would actually do that)

ResumeSpeed
03-20-2005, 11:24 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I am only playing the devil's advocate here, but how do you know what Jeep did or did not say? Automotive news outlets do not make up information and then state that it came directly from the company (only an idiot would actually do that)</TD></TR></TABLE><p>AutoWeek never stated that the information came from Jeep, in fact they never stated where it came from at all. The only place I have seen where it mentioned that the info "came from Jeep" was on on this thread.<p>Here is the Autoweek quote:<p>"In a matter of days Jeep will unveil the 2006 Commander at the New York auto show, and were told the real deal will differ from recently published photographs, as well as those making the rounds on the web." <p>Don't always believe everything you read. A major automotive site posted last spring or summer that the 2005 Grand Cherokee "was being delayed", that it would not arrive until calendar year 2005. Now this was even after Chrysler had already mentioned in a news release that the Jeep was destined for a fall 2004 intro. They never did correct the info, it is probably still there.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by ResumeSpeed at 11:55 PM 3/20/2005</i>

bolita
03-21-2005, 08:45 AM
I will be really surprised if the Commander ends up looking like those pix... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>In any case we are only 2 days away of finding out!

Charger
03-21-2005, 08:47 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bolita</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I will be really surprised if the Commander ends up looking like those pix... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>In any case we are only 2 days away of finding out!</TD></TR></TABLE><br>They will look like those pics because they are the real thing.

jasonm
03-21-2005, 09:06 AM
as certain as you seem to be that they are real, i pray they are not. these things often look better in person than in pics, but this i'm not sure if this thing is salvageable in its current form.

Aidan
03-21-2005, 11:42 AM
<A HREF="http://www.crosslander4x4.com/" TARGET="_blank">http://www.crosslander4x4.com/</A> <p>Separated at birth..............<br>

GerjurdKing
03-21-2005, 01:19 PM
Having gone back and looked at the photos of another Jeep Commander (concept from 1999) I ask why styling cues couldnt have been brought over from that. Though it looks like its similar in size to the GC, at this point any design is better than what is actually going to make it to market.

Charger
03-23-2005, 08:42 PM
Please continue discussion in the new cars section