View Full Version : 2006 CSS "Bang for the Buck" Performance Car of the Year

12-11-2006, 10:57 AM
As you have all been waiting patiently, here we go...<p>First, take a moment and familiarize with the nominees first.<p>Rules are simple:<p>1) Vote objectively.<br>2) Consider the importance of the vehicle to the industry and the manufacturers themselves.<p>How to:<p>Each vehicle on this list will receive a score on a scale between 1 to 5, with 5 being the best. Fraction of points are allowed but we ask you to keep them at half of a point.<p>Thank you and let us know if you have any questions. Voting will be open until December 27. Winners will be announced shortly thereafter.<p>Nominees:<p><B>2006 CSS "Bang for the Buck" Performance Car of the Year</B>:<p>Audi TT<br>BMW 3 Series Coupe<br>MazdaSpeed3<br>Mini Cooper S<br>Saturn Sky Redline<br>Volkswagen Eos<br>HSV E-Series<br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Superfresa at 9:46 PM 12/17/2006</i>

12-11-2006, 10:57 AM
<B>2006 CSS "Bang for the Buck" Performance Car of the Year</B>:<p><B>Audi TT</B><p><IMG SRC="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/A/audi/TT/03-large/06-tt-uk-f3q-s.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/A/audi/TT/03-large/06-tt-uk-i.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><B>BMW 3 Series Coupe</B><p><IMG SRC="http://magazine.avtoindex.com/images/bmw/2006/bmw_3-series_coupe_2.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://magazine.avtoindex.com/images/bmw/2006/bmw_3-series_coupe_3.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><B>MazdaSpeed3</B><p><IMG SRC="http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/roadtests/roadtest/07.mazdaspeed.3/07.mazda.mazdaspeed3.act.500.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/roadtests/roadtest/07.mazdaspeed.3/07.mazda.mazdaspeed3.int.500.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><B>Mini Cooper S</B><p><IMG SRC="http://www.uncrate.com/men/images/2006/08/2007-mini-cooper-s.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.uncrate.com/men/images/2006/08/2007-mini-cooper-s-4.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><B>Saturn Sky Redline</B><p><IMG SRC="http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/roadtests/firstdrive/2007/saturn.sky.red.line/07.saturn.sky.redline.act.1.500.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/roadtests/firstdrive/2007/saturn.sky.red.line/07.saturn.sky.redline.int.500.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><B>Volkswagen Eos</B><p><IMG SRC="http://www.dn.no/multimedia/archive/00082/LB-Volkswagen_Eos_82853g.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.dn.no/multimedia/archive/00082/LB-Volkswagen_Eos_82858g.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><B>HSV E-Series</B><p><IMG SRC="http://proxy.tcimages.net/DisplayImage.aspx?path=/CarContent/Polk/400/8zpgtsfd.jpg&S=IGF&T=281" BORDER="0"><IMG SRC="http://proxy.tcimages.net/DisplayImage.aspx?path=/CarContent/Polk/400/8zqgtsrd.jpg&S=IGF&T=281" BORDER="0"><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Superfresa at 9:54 PM 12/17/2006</i>

12-11-2006, 04:51 PM
<B>Audi TT- 5<br>BMW 3-Series Coupe- 4<br>MazdaSpeed 3- 4.5<br>MINI Cooper S- 4.5<br>Saturn Sky Redline- 4.5<br>Volkswagen Eos- 4<br>HSV E-Series- 4.8</B><br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by CaymanS at 10:05 PM 12/17/2006</i>

12-11-2006, 04:55 PM
Mazdaspeed 3 - <B>5</B><br>Saturn Sky Redline - <B>5</B><br>Mini Cooper S - <B>4</B><br>Audi TT - <B>3</B><br>Volkswagen Eos - <B>3</B><br>BMW 335i - <B>2.5</B><br>HSV E-Series - <B>4</B><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by DoMiNo at 12:59 AM 12/18/2006</i>

12-11-2006, 05:27 PM
<B>Audi TT - 3.5</B> It doesn't do it for me. It's got an interior unworthy of the Audi logo, and its old. And FWD biased.<br><B>BMW 3 Series Coupe - 3.5</B> The Normal 3er looks better.<br><B>MazdaSpeed3 - 4.5</B> Incredible Performance, great looking car. Dulled only by the fact that it looks like a stanmdard Mazda 3, except for the exhaust that is so dodgy, it makes the whole car look like a 1990 Civic with body kits and ugly under-car neons.<br><B>Mini Cooper S - 4</B> One of the best driver's car's on earth just got better. <br><B>Saturn Sky Redline - 4</B> Finally a car worthy of competing with the MX5 - But its lacking a tad...<br><B>Volkswagen Eos - 4</B> Good looking, great quality, but the Golf looks and feels better, plust this is FWD, and I dislike that Idea.<br><B>HSV E-Series - 5</B> Superb handling, looks great, Interior is bloody awesome, all the dynamics and credentials BMW can't compete with, but at a terribly affordable price.<p><i>Modified by Superfresa at 8:16 PM 12/11/2006</i><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Superfresa at 9:59 PM 12/17/2006</i>

against the wall
12-11-2006, 07:14 PM
Audi TT- <B>3.5</B> with only substantial hp for now at an audi pricetag, its not really bang for the buck.<br>BMW 3 series coupe-<B>4</B> i think the sedan looks better too<br>MazdaSpeed 3-<B>5</B> a 250 hp hot hatch for around 25k... ill take 2.<br>Mini Cooper S-<B>4.5</B> a little too retro for my taste<br>VW Eos-<B>3</B> pretty pricey for what you get<br>Saturn Sky Redline-<B>3.5</B> one of the best looking cars to come out of GM in recent years that sadly probably has the same quality issues as the Aura. I also heard the transmission is a bit shoddy.

12-11-2006, 07:22 PM
MazdaSpeed3: 5- Amazing value and performance<br>Eos: 4- Drools over looks. And engine<br>SKY Redline- 4.5 Looks amazing. One of THE best looking cars ever<br>Audi TT- 3.5- Looks great, But its not appealing to me<br>3-Series Coupe-3 Not sporty enough...Wheres my M3<br>Mini: 1.5- Looks exactly like the 2002 version... Yawn<br>HSV E-Series 5- Amazing Value, And performance.<p><i>Modified by someone at 7:25 AM 12/18/2006</i><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by FRDesign at 7:33 AM 12/18/2006</i>

12-11-2006, 07:32 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>FRDesign</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>3-Series Coupe-3 <B>Not sporty enough...</B><br></TD></TR></TABLE><br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0">

12-12-2006, 06:29 AM
Mazdaspeed3 - 5<br>BMW 3-Series Coupe - 4<br>Saturn Sky Redline - 2.5<br>MINI Cooper S - 2.5<br>Audi TT - 2<br>Volkswagen Eos - 0.5<p>First off, i would hardly call the Eos a great deal. Youre essentially paying 28-45k for a restyled Golf with a retractable hardtop..the 207CC does the same thing cheaply (despite this, its build quality & relative performance is good); so the Eos unquestionable gets half a point. The BMW 3-Series Coupe, both 328i & 335i, makes 2nd place. The 328i for its standard xDrive AWD system & the 335i for its 300hp turbo engine, both for under 45k is absolutely marvelous. The Sky Redline, at 29k, is a great, light-weight machine that can outrun a BMW Z4 3.0si in a slalom, great styling to boot (so great it became an Opel & a Daewoo shortly after). The MINI is an extremely great buy, for 22k you are able to feel as if you are driving an autocross machine everyday; the Audi TT, great styling, however its packaging isnt much of a deal for what VW is asking its buyers to pay for it. The Mazdaspeed3 is the clear winner. At under 3200lbs, $23,000 & its 263hp 2.3L, its practically a steal<p><B>Guys lets include in a brief explanation for our choices if we can</B><br> <br>

12-12-2006, 03:16 PM
Audi TT- 4.5<br>BMW 3 Series Coupe- 5<br>MazdaSpeed3- 5<br>Mini Cooper S- 4.5<br>Saturn Sky Redline- 5<br>Volkswagen Eos- 4.5<br>HSV E-series- 4<p><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by mercedes007 at 5:54 PM 12/19/2006</i>

12-13-2006, 02:09 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>FRDesign</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">3-Series Coupe-3 Not sporty enough...<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0"> Are you kidding me?

12-13-2006, 07:03 PM
Mazdaspeed 3:5-a sleeper with performance to boot with an attractive price tag<br>Audi TT:3.5-it lost some of the charm of the original<br>BMW 3er coupe:4<br>Mini Cooper S:4-a fine drivers car<br>Saturn Sky Redline:3.5-good looks, performance, some issues need work though<br>Volkswagen Eos:2-not quite a peformance car, and pricey

12-13-2006, 08:15 PM
Where's the HSV E-Series I nominated, knicks? :(

12-14-2006, 11:05 PM
Audi TT - 4 - A TT you won't be ashamed to drive...<br>BMW 3 Series Coupe - 5 - If only I could give it more than a 5.<br>MazdaSpeed3 - 3<br>Mini Cooper S - 4<br>Saturn Sky Redline - 2 - Nice Effort GM!<br>Volkswagen Eos - 3.5 - Why is this in the "Perfomance" category?

12-16-2006, 01:00 PM
<B><br>Audi TT - 4.5<br>BMW 3 Series Coupe - 3.5<br>MazdaSpeed3 - 3.5<br>Mini Cooper S - 4<br>Saturn Sky Redline - 5<br>Volkswagen Eos - 3.5<br></B>

12-16-2006, 04:10 PM
Audi TT - 4<br>BMW 3 Series Coupe - 5<br>MazdaSpeed3 - 4<br>Mini Cooper S - 5<br>Saturn Sky Redline - 3<br>Volkswagen Eos - 2

12-16-2006, 05:33 PM
MazdaSpeed3 - 5<br>Saturn Sky Redline - 4.5<br>BMW 3 Series Coupe - 4.5<br>Audi TT - 4<br>Volkswagen Eos - 3<br>Mini Cooper S - 2.5<p>

12-17-2006, 02:00 AM
Audi TT <B>5</B><br>BMW 3 Series Coupe <B>4.8</B><br>MazdaSpeed3 <B>4.0</B><br>Mini Cooper S <B>4.0</B><br>Saturn Sky Redline <B>4.0</B><br>Volkswagen Eos <B>5</B>

12-17-2006, 08:00 PM
Everyone, please modify your votes to include the HSV E-Series as we missed it when setting up the contest! Cheers!<p>- Super -

12-17-2006, 08:16 PM
Audi TT - 5 (good all-arounder, pretty)<br>BMW 3 Series Coupe -4 (also a good all-arounder, but ugly--yet not interesting [which is unusual for BMW] Bangle's most boring creation yet?)<br>MazdaSpeed3 -4 (Excellent value, predictable styling--just another Japanese car with almond shaped head/tail lights) <br>Mini Cooper S -3 (expensive)<br>Saturn Sky Redline -5 (perception breaker)<br>Volkswagen Eos -3 (Can anyone spot the odd one out in this group? should have its own category)<br>HSV E-Series 4 (Good, but downside is, it's little too tacky for my taste)<br>

against the wall
12-17-2006, 08:28 PM
i guess ill just put my e series vote here. but before i do does anyone know how much horsepower it has in relation to its price, but americanized?

12-17-2006, 08:42 PM
It's 307kW, which is 2 less than an Audi RS4 - So uhm... about 450bhp?<p>Price is compareable down here to a BMW 330 or a MB C Class. <p>Its a 6 Liter V8 RWD, 6 speed auto, With Magnetic Ride Control.

against the wall
12-17-2006, 08:56 PM
holy crap 450 hp at a 3 series price. if thats not bang for the buck....<p>ill give it a 4.5 because i think it needs bigger taillights and a new grille.

12-17-2006, 09:01 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>against the wall</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">holy crap 450 hp at a 3 series price. if thats not bang for the buck....<p>ill give it a 4.5 because i think it needs bigger taillights and a new grille.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>And it looks tacky and It could use some 21st Century Technology. Sounds fair <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

12-17-2006, 09:56 PM
I believe 307kW works out to be just north over 411 bhp. IIRC, it uses the same LS2 as it is in the 'Vette.<p>Pricing ranges from just under 62,890 AUD (49,189 USD) to 76,990 AUD (60,218 USD), nearly equivalent to the 323i - 325i in the local market <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

12-21-2006, 11:03 PM
In terms of bang-for-buck<p>Audi TT - 3points<br>BMW 3 Series Coupe - 4points<br>MazdaSpeed3 - 5points<br>Mini Cooper S - 2points<br>Saturn Sky Redline - 3points<br>Volkswagen Eos - 2points (performance?)<br>HSV E-Series - 5points

12-25-2006, 01:00 PM
Audi TT - 1 point / too expensive for a "bang for the buck" list and as expensive as it is, it better have a lot of bang<br>BMW 3 Series Coupe - 1 point as above<br>MazdaSpeed3 - 5 points lots of bang for the buck<br>Mini Cooper S - 2 points slightly pricey for the bang<br>Saturn Sky Redline - 5 points drop dead sexy gorgeous meets American muscle car DNA love it<br>Volkswagen Eos - 1 point too soft to have bang<br>HSV E-Series - 5 points dammit where is my Impala?

12-25-2006, 07:30 PM
My pick:<br>MazdaSpeed3/Mazda3 MPS - 5<br>Saturn Sky Redline -4.5<br>Audi TT - 4<br>HSV E-Series - 4<br>BMW 3 Series Coupe - 3.5<br>Volkswagen Eos - 3<br>Mini Cooper S - 2.5