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knicks125
12-11-2006, 10:50 AM
As you have all been waiting patiently, here we go...<p>First, take a moment and familiarize with the nominees first.<p>Rules are simple:<p>1) Vote objectively.<br>2) Consider the importance of the vehicle to the industry and the manufacturers themselves.<p>How to:<p>Each vehicle on this list will receive a score on a scale between 1 to 5, with 5 being the best. Fraction of points are allowed but we ask you to keep them at half of a point.<p>Thank you and let us know if you have any questions. Voting will be open until December 27. Winners will be announced shortly thereafter.<p>Nominees:<p><B>2006 CSS Mid-to-Large Car of the Year</B>:<p>Holden VE Commodore Omega<br>Nissan Altima<br>Saturn Aura<br>Toyota Aurion<br>Toyota Camry

knicks125
12-11-2006, 10:51 AM
<B>2006 CSS Mid-to-Large Car of the Year</B>:<p><B>Holden VE Commodore Omega</B><p><IMG SRC="http://www.americancarfans.com/photos/3060721.001/1012.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.americancarfans.com/photos/3060721.001/1017.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><B>Nissan Altima</B><p><IMG SRC="http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/2006_new_york/0605_2007_nissan_altima_1_445.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.automobilemag.com/auto_shows/2006_new_york/0605_2007_nissan_altima_3_445.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><B>Saturn Aura</B><p><IMG SRC="http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/roadtests/roadtest/07.saturn.aura.xe/07.saturn.aura.f34.500.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/roadtests/roadtest/07.saturn.aura.xe/07.saturn.aura.int.500.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><B>Toyota Aurion</B><p><IMG SRC="http://aurion.toyota.com.au/TWR/content/static/23254.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://aurion.toyota.com.au/TWR/content/static/23382.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><B>Toyota Camry</B><p><IMG SRC="http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/roadtests/longterm/toyota.camry.le.v6/06.toyota.camry.f34.500.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//pictures/EI/2007/Toyota/2007.toyota.camry.20089171-E.jpg" BORDER="0">

Comrade
12-11-2006, 04:37 PM
VE Commodore Omega 4.5<br>Altima 3<br>Aura 4<br>Aurion 4<br>Camry 4

Nurburgring
12-11-2006, 04:40 PM
<B>Holden VE Commodore Omega- 4.5<br>Nissan Altima- 4<br>Saturn Aura- 3<br>Toyota Aurion- 4<br>Toyota Camry-4.5</B>

DoMiNo
12-11-2006, 05:14 PM
Holden VE Commodore - <B>5</B><br>Saturn Aura - <B>4.5</B><br>Toyota Camry - <B>4.5</B><br>Toyota Aurion - <B>3.5</B><br>Nissan Altima - <B>2.5</B>

Superfresa
12-11-2006, 05:41 PM
NOOO!!! Dont vote for the Commodore Omega! Vote for the Commodore SS or SSV, not the Omega because It's rubbish! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Anyway:<p><B>Holden VE Commodore </B>SV6/SS/SSV <B>4</B><br>(Commodore Omega/Berlina= 0.00001) - Fine, ignore me then.<br>It's an astonishing effort. A Great, RWD, excellent performing, greatly dynamic and immensely great handling car, let down only by a dud transmission and a silly rear seat.<br><B>Nissan Altima - 2.5</B> Nissan's. They're pretty nice. If failry bland...<br><B>Saturn Aura - 3</B> Well, judging by looks, It looks great.<br><B>Toyota Aurion - 3.5</B> Great vehicle. Dud rear end and dash board. AT-X is great value for money, Sportivos look nice, Presara is a pretty nice package. But FWD kills it, the rear is dreadful, the dashboard is a disappointment, and it's just massively outclassed by the VE.<br><B>Toyota Camry - 3</B> Noice. A Camry worth having again. Dash is disappointing, and the engine is a weak link. Styling is getting there.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Superfresa at 7:54 PM 12/11/2006</i>

FRDesign
12-11-2006, 07:46 PM
Altima- 4<br>Aura- 4.5<br>Aurion- 4<br>Camry- 2<br>Commodore- 5<br>

against the wall
12-11-2006, 07:56 PM
gee i wonder why you gave camry a 2... (cough bias cough)<p>as for me<p>Commodore-3 honestly cant wait for this to hit NA, but I hope its not the Omega, more want the SSV's or the E-series.<br>Altima- 3.5 nothing really new or breathtaking<br>Aurion-4.5 since i know nothing about this car ill just give it the same grade as the camry.<br>Camry-4.5 best selling car just got a whole lot better<br>Aura-3 good styling marred by bad quality<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by against the wall at 3:07 PM 12/13/2006</i>

Nurburgring
12-11-2006, 08:31 PM
I don't understand people who's rating of the Aurion and the Camry differs by that much. What's the difference?

against the wall
12-11-2006, 08:36 PM
yeah the interiors are extremely similar to one another (same basic design priniciples present in each) and the window lines and side profiles seem very similar to me.

Nurburgring
12-11-2006, 08:41 PM
Just a reminder: My 0.5 difference between the Aurion and the Camry was decided upon its significance to the market it's targeted at. The Camry covered most of the fields here in North America and it's a very important and one of the best-selling cars here albeit its bland styling. The Aurion on the other hand, it seems to be the runner-up in the race and more prominent and RWD <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> vehicles like the Holden Commodore seem to be considered more important in the land of Down Under than the Aurion in terms of sale and general reception. Correct me if I was wrong.

FRDesign
12-11-2006, 08:42 PM
Yeah, How come the Escalade and Avalanche are together, Which have totally different interiors, yet the Aurion and Camry are almost identicle.

against the wall
12-11-2006, 08:58 PM
wait, does australia get the camry too, or is the aurion OZ's camry?

Nurburgring
12-11-2006, 09:12 PM
I believe the Aurion is OZ's Camry.<p>Edit- Both the Camry and the Aurion is offered. Strange. It's up on the Toyota Austrailia site.

DSC-OFF
12-12-2006, 05:47 AM
Toyota Camry - 5<br>Nissan Altima - 4<br>Holden Commodore Omega - 4<br>Saturn Aura - 2<br>Toyota Aurion - 1.5<p>As great as the new Altima & Commodores are, im looking at it at the industrys point of view; the Camry is a very integral part of the market, & how much better it got for 2007, despite not being an all new car at all, and its features & quality is astounding. Im not getting a warm & fuzzy feeling for the Aurion and the Saturn Aura, however important it is for Saturns 180, just isnt doing much for me. The 2007 Toyota Camry gets my vote<p><b>Guys lets include in a brief explanation for our choices if we can</b><br> <br>

Comrade
12-12-2006, 09:18 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>DSC-OFF</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Toyota Camry - 5<br>Toyota Aurion - 1.5<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Can you explain why the big discrepancy between two cars that are almost identical? Is is because of the importance in the market or something I completely missed?<p>Being nearly the same, I argued that the Aurion is better looking but not much. Stylewise, they're like 'meh' and err... better flowing 'meh'.

acura.007
12-12-2006, 03:07 PM
Holden VE Commodore Omega- 3.5<br>Nissan Altima- 4.5<br>Saturn Aura- 4<br>Toyota Aurion- 4<br>Toyota Camry- 5<br>

Superfresa
12-12-2006, 10:42 PM
Quick explanation:<p>The Camry sells in Australia ONLY with the 4 cylinder FWD layout.<p>The Aurion get's the 3.5 Liter Bent 6, through a 6 speed auto and to the Front wheels.<p>That's a significant difference, at least here. <p><br>Aurion is trying to break Holden/Ford's Large car dominance in the market, since no product has ever been able to come close. <p>Toyota argues the Camry is mid sized, and the Aurion is large <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1zhelp.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Superfresa at 12:56 AM 12/13/2006</i>

DSC-OFF
12-13-2006, 10:15 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Comrade</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Can you explain why the big discrepancy between two cars that are almost identical? Is is because of the importance in the market or something I completely missed?<p>Being nearly the same, I argued that the Aurion is better looking but not much. Stylewise, they're like 'meh' and err... better flowing 'meh'.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>My picks for these kinds of awards are rarely about styling (in this years case, the Dodge Nitro is the only one that i considered for its horrific design). And yes, there is a market difference between the Aurion & the Camry..id elaborate but it looks like SuperFresa already has ^^^ thanks chap. One thing id like to add to his reply however..the Camry is a volume leader compared to the Aurion

Nick
12-13-2006, 11:20 AM
Holden VE Commodore Omega - 5<br>Nissan Altima - 2.5<br>Saturn Aura - 3<br>Toyota Aurion - 4<br>Toyota Camry - 3.5

Gian86
12-14-2006, 02:11 AM
My pick:<p>Holden VE Commodore Omega - 4.5<br>The VE Commodore looks great for australian made car but Omega is the basic model of VE range which has been missing some good features.<p>Toyota Aurion - 4<br>Love the looks on the inside more than the Camry.<p>Toyota Camry - 3.5<br>Love the exterior looks but not some on the inside<p>Saturn Aura - 3<br>Looks nice on the outside which gives Opel Vectra go old. <p>Nissan Altima - 2.5<br>The exterior and interior looks good but not very exciting than my last 4 cars.

FRDesign
12-14-2006, 06:46 PM
I like the Aurion much better than the Camry.

piokor
12-14-2006, 10:59 PM
Holden VE Commodore Omega - 4 - Wow GM, wow. Makes a great base for future NA product.<br>Nissan Altima - 2.5 - Seems to be a toned down version of the exact same car...<br>Saturn Aura - 2.5 - Everytime I see one of these on the street, it draws my attention...its probably doing a lot for Saturn.<br>Toyota Aurion - 4.5 - Only reason I gave it a lower score than the Camry is because it doesn't look as sharp.<br>Toyota Camry - 5 - A car that will continue to be on top in the US.

Dahlis
12-16-2006, 11:54 AM
First of all, who came up with these candidates? Not one European car?!<p>Holden VE Commodore Omega - 3<br>Nissan Altima - 1<br>Saturn Aura - 1<br>Toyota Aurion - 1<br>Toyota Camry - 1

orangeeagle13
12-16-2006, 12:44 PM
<B><br>Holden VE Commodore Omega - 4<br>Nissan Altima - 3<br>Saturn Aura - 3.5<br>Toyota Aurion - 3.5<br>Toyota Camry - 4<br></B>

knicks125
12-16-2006, 02:26 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Dahlis</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">First of all, who came up with these candidates? Not one European car?!<p>Holden VE Commodore Omega - 3<br>Nissan Altima - 1<br>Saturn Aura - 1<br>Toyota Aurion - 1<br>Toyota Camry - 1</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Hold your jets there <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> That "who" you referred to would be the members of this forum. The rules were simple, all members nominated vehicles they felt qualified for the voting selection. We took those nominations and determined their eligibility, and in most cases, they would have to be new vehicles, sold in the current year, facelifts generally did not count towards the final list (which is what you see here).<p>I apologize on behalf of the forum that non-European vehicles do not meet with your standards. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/sheep.gif" BORDER="0">

the1
12-16-2006, 04:04 PM
Holden VE Commodore Omega - 3<br>Nissan Altima - 3<br>Saturn Aura - 2<br>Toyota Aurion - 3<br>Toyota Camry - 4

Player4
12-16-2006, 05:35 PM
Holden VE Commodore Omega - 3<br>Nissan Altima - 5<br>Saturn Aura - 4.5<br>Toyota Aurion - 3<br>Toyota Camry - 3

Swallow Doretti
12-19-2006, 02:41 PM
Holden VE Commodore Omega: 5<br>Nissan Altima: 5<br>Saturn Aura: 3.5<br>Toyota Aurion: 1<br>Toyota Camry: 3

Hornbag
12-21-2006, 10:57 PM
Holden VE Commodore Omega - 3points<br>Nissan Altima - 4points<br>Saturn Aura - 2points<br>Toyota Aurion - 3points<br>Toyota Camry - 2.5points

mzoltarp
12-25-2006, 01:03 PM
Holden VE Commodore Omega - 5 points the Holdens are a massive home run<br>Nissan Altima - 2 points only slightly less of a yawn than a Camry<br>Saturn Aura - 4 points good turn around vehicle for Saturn<br>Toyota Aurion - 1 point yawn<br>Toyota Camry - 1 point yawn

Hornbag
12-25-2006, 04:08 PM
Hold on a minute, I gave the Commodore 3 points because it said "Commodore Omega" but is it supposed to be based on the whole range because if so my vote goes to 4.5 points. Just everyone is voting on the Commodore on a whole and not just the Omega varient?