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knicks125
10-24-2005, 12:33 PM
As NAIAS draws near, North America Car of the Year (COTY) & Truck of the Year (TOTY) will be annouced during the show, along with two runnerup in each category. The competitions for this year are defn. fierce, defn. will be a tight race:<p><B>Nominees for COTY</B>: Audi A3, A4/S4, BMW 3 Series, Buick Lucerne, Cadillac DTS, STS-V, Chevrolet HHR, Impala/Impala SS, Chrysler PT Curiser Dodge Charger (R/T, SRT-8), Ford Fusion, Honda Civic/Civic Si/Civic Hybrid, Hyundai Sonata, Azera, Accent, Infiniti M35/45, Kia Rio, Sedona, Lexus IS 250/350, Lincoln Zephyr, Mazda Miata MX-5, Mazda 5, Mazdaspeed6, Mercedes-Benz R-Class, Mercury Milan, Mitsubishi Eclipse, Lancer Evo IX, Pontiac Grand Prix GXP, Solstice, Torrent, Porsche Boxster/Boxster S, Saab 9-3 Sport Combi V-6 Turbo, Toyota Avalon, Volkswagen Jetta, Jetta GLi, Passat.<p><B>Nominess for TOTY</B>: Dodge Ram/Ram Mega Cab, Ford Explorer, Honda Ridgeline, Hummer H3, Jeep Commander, Kia Sportage, Lexus RX 400h, Mercedes M-Class, Mitsubushi Raider, Nissan Xterra, Range Rover Sport, Subaru B9 Tribeca, Suzuki Grand Vitara, Toyota RAV4 and Toyota Highlander Hybrid.<p>Various editorials and forums around have the Solstice, MX-5, Miata, Civic (Si), Sonata leading the way in the COTY pact; while the Ridgeline seems to be the clear leader in the TOTY category.<p>Which cars do you think will have a legit shot at winning each category, and runnerup? (<U><B>not which cars you want to win</B></U>) Keep in mind the selection comes from various categories, and not always just the numbers reflected on paper.<p>---------------------------------<p><B>'06 NAIAS Update</B>: Congratulations to the Honda Civic and the Honda Ridgeline, respectively winning the North America Car and Truck of the Year.<p><B>Press Release</B>: <A HREF="http://www.hondanews.com/CatID1000?mid=2006010837269&mime=asc" TARGET="_blank">http://www.hondanews.com/CatID...e=asc</A><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by knicks125 at 12:29 PM 1/8/2006</i>

FordRules
10-24-2005, 05:20 PM
My choices are:<p>COTY:Ford Fusion<br>TOTY:Explorer<br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Santeno at 11:31 AM 10/25/2005</i>

megadethmartyr
10-24-2005, 07:20 PM
COTY: Sonata (aside from the obvious bias)<br>Reason: The Sonata is the midsize that will make EVERY company rethink what they have been putting over on the American public. Huge safety equipment, passive and active. Not too mention the HIGHEST ALL AROUND crash testing, not just the front. Perfect mix of Accord (sporty) and Camary (refined). Not to mention is sets a precident on value. Add in the the huge price point and warranty, and the fact that the one's that can compete with it's price CAN'T compete with equipment or performance. It fits what COTY is based on: The most car for your money (value) that also exceeds expectations for that segment. <p>TOTY: Ram Mega Cab.<br>Reason: This thing is everything a truck is supposed to be. Big, powerful, and strikes fear in to the heart of every Ridgeline driver that sees only that grill in their rearview mirror. The Subaru is interesting, but the style counts it out. I would say the Xterra and Range Rover are the Mega Cab's only threats. Personally, I would love to see a test of 2 Mega Cabs hooked up end to end on a Ridgeline, then tear it in half.

SV
10-24-2005, 07:34 PM
COTY will probably end up being either the sonata or the fusion, with the winner most likely being the sonata. both cars are fairly close in overall well-roundedness IMO, but the sonata is a massive step forward for hyundai, while ford has been capable of producing world-class cars for decades; they just didn't take advantage of that very often.<p>TOTY i think will probably be the ridgeline, just because of being so "innovative." i personally don't think it's innovative; a car-based truck basing at $5-10k more than the competition is an idea anyone could have thought up (and by the way, i like honda and the ridgeline, i just think the ridgeline's "innovativeness" is somewhat overrated and the rather large price difference over the competition unjustified). i guess, however, the ridgeline is the most deserving; all the other nominees (apart from the ram) haven't brought much of anything new or revolutionary to their segments.

Nodnarb
10-24-2005, 07:43 PM
Honestly, I have to agree with what the editorials are saying. The Solstice, MX-5, or Sonata. I don't think the Sonata will ultimately win, since the Accord has added the safety features that put the Sonata ahead for this year. It is a significant vehicle for Hyundai and for the segment, but it is just didn't set the bar quite high enough given its competitors have been out for 3-4 years now. <p>And the Ridgeline, like it or loathe it, is the most significant and innovative truck this year. Period. Granted it cannot haul like a traditional full size can, but still gets their fuel economy, but it still it holds the most significance. I agree with what SV said about the innovativeness being somewhat overrated, but also as he said, all the other nominees just don't put much on the table. For me, the Ram is closest, but doesn't offer anything that hasn't been done. The cab just looks hugely awkward in person (to me anyway), but yet in terms of room inside, the current Ford Super Duties tie or beat it in every category except rear legroom, where it looses by about half an inch. Plus you can get an 8 foot bed on the Super Duty. Any other year, especially next year with the new Tundra and GM's, it would look rediculous, but this year is a rather disapointing bunch.

Excellerator
10-25-2005, 01:46 AM
COTY: I wouldn't mind the Fusion or Sonata winning it. Sonata due to large warranty, lots of safety features standard, value over most competitors and performance that meets or beats the class average. The Fusion due to AWD/hybrid availability, excellent looks (if it does count) and price.<p>TOTY: Ridgeline. I don't know anyone who actually uses all the towing capacity of a truck. Even my uncle used his 2000 Dodge Dakota Quad Cab to bring home a new refrigerator once. They've never towed anything with it, they rarely, if ever, use the 4X4 system, and all he does is drive to work and back while complaining about fuel economy. Ergo, it doesn't matter if the Ridgeline trails in towing; it fits the needs of the average driver. It's a truck in my opinion, and Honda deserves respect as well for their risk-taking. Some people are willing to pay more for something that fits their own lifestyle. If it doesn't fit yours, just say it, don't bash it.<br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Santeno at 11:33 AM 10/25/2005</i>

Hornbag
10-25-2005, 03:32 AM
COTY - Sonato for all the obvious reason, and lest face it, its a good car. I think the Fusion might be in, good reviews and its a turning point for Ford.<p>TOTY - M-Class!!! I love it! I just want it to win, its so good looking!

Nodnarb
10-25-2005, 08:25 AM
I actually don't think it is a huge oversight on Ford's part to make ABS and side airbags optional. Some people would rather have a lighter car and pump their brakes still. Most people will go for those two options, but at least they have the choice. It's not like because they're standard on the Sonata, they're free. One way or the other you're going to end up paying for them, so I applaud Ford for giving you the choice. But, I digress. Sorry for the threadjack.

olegk21
10-25-2005, 08:01 PM
car - avalon<p>truck - ridgeline, or rav4 (a little to early to tell)<p><br>avalon - toyota has turned a buick into a large sorts sedan leader putting competitors like the maxima to shame.<p>ridgeline - a light-duty truck with the quality and reputation of honda.<p>rav4 - seems like a wild concept putting a 270 hp v6 into a compact sport-ute. It may work, but I'd much rather see that engine in the camry/solara, or even the scion tc... lol

SV
10-25-2005, 08:08 PM
i forgot about the MX-5 and solstice. actually, it's just as likely those two will get COTY as the sonata and fusion, i think. all four are great cars <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

FordRules
10-25-2005, 08:56 PM
Well I like the look of the solstice, and the mech of the MX5.<br>And isnt the Avalon a 2005???<br>After Looking at the Trucks again I think it will be either the:<br>Grand Vitara,Rav4,<p>And the 2006 Ranger is Egible too.Its redesigned

megadethmartyr
10-25-2005, 10:25 PM
I doubt the Solstice or the Miata, simpy because they aren't real high volume cars. Motor Trend seems to have turned to daily drivers that offer more in one way or another. The Ridgeline is not a truck, by pure definition, it's not a truck, sorry for the rant, that thing bugs me, there's alot of TRUCKS or TRUCK BASED vehicles eligable, TOTY should go to a TRUCK.

knicks125
10-26-2005, 04:36 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>FordRules</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And the 2006 Ranger is Egible too.Its redesigned </TD></TR></TABLE><p>The very first post of the thread includes all nominees...sorry, '06 ranger didn't make the cut - perhaps it came too late in the year.

Superfresa
10-26-2005, 04:50 AM
To be honest the MX5 and the commandder should win, but you yanks are weirdos. You might pick a ford or something <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

DoMiNo
10-26-2005, 05:14 AM
Car- Sonata or Fusion, for sure. Not that I'm particularly enamored with either, but they're both (a) very mainstream, (b) significant models for their respective manufacturers, and (c) great all-around performers. I'd say the Sonata has an edge in standard equipment, power, and maybe even quality, but the Ford being the "hometown favorite," as well as a little bit of style in a relatively bland segment, gives it a few extra points. Now, if the Fusion had a little more oomph and an AWD option, it would be over. <p>That said, I really wish the MX-5 or Solstice would win, but let's face it, they're too impractical. I'd say A3, personally, if I were basing this contest on my own criteria. <p>Truck: Ridgeline, hands down. It's just such an innovative approach, and so much more reasonable than anything else on the list. I haven't seen a single bad review. It just... <I>makes more sense</I> than the other entries. <p>Although the H3, in my opinion, could be viable as well, since like the Fusion for Ford, it kind of represents GM stepping back, taking a look at its lineup and saying, "Hmm... how about we build a vehicle with personality and practicality without making it a gas-guzzling tank to take up 3 parking spaces." In my opinion, it marks a turning point for the Hummer brand and for Large SUVs in general.

FordRules
10-26-2005, 04:51 PM
Car and Driver rated the Fusion better than he Sonata.

Naga Royal Guard
10-26-2005, 05:10 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>olegk21</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>rav4 - seems like a wild concept putting a 270 hp v6 into a compact sport-ute. It may work, <b>but I'd much rather see that engine in the camry/solara, </b>or even the scion tc... lol</TD></TR></TABLE><p>should when its facelifted

StevenZoz
10-26-2005, 05:39 PM
Fusion<p>&<p>Rav4

knicks125
10-26-2005, 05:52 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>FordRules</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><U>Car and Driver</U> rated the Fusion better than he Sonata.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Thank you for the threadjacking <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> But, as long as you are putting this out for discussion, I'll be as objective as I can, and as professional as I can to Car & Driver:<p>Congrats to the Accord! The streak continues, Honda products once again take the top finisher in a Car & Driver comparision <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Congrats to the Fusion and the Sonata...the two newcomers tested being competitive to the benchmark: the Accord & the Camry...Overall, in one sentence: all four cars are very very good <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Criticisms: There are more subjective categories/criteria than objectives. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Exhibit #1: The Camry and the Fusion actually came close (or tied) to the Sonata and the Accord in the powertrain dept. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Exhibit #2: Gotta-have-it factor/fun to drive account for 1/5 of the total score <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>This is no knock to any vehicles tested; just something I thought C + D can improve upon.<p>I digress <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> Let's get back to NACTOY, NATOTY disussions <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by knicks125 at 9:14 PM 10/26/2005</i>

SV
10-26-2005, 06:11 PM
are you talking about the december issue? i haven't gotten it yet. what were the final rankings?<p>sorry to go off topic, i'm just wondering...

Krypton
10-26-2005, 06:14 PM
accord, fusion, sonata, camry in that order<br>And the xterra won the NATOTY for MT

knicks125
10-26-2005, 06:19 PM
Accord (1); Fusion (2); Sonata (3); Camry (4)<p>Categories:<p>Vehicle - Camry (84 Points); Accord + Sonata (82 Points); Fusion (78 Points)<br>Powertrain - Accord (47 Points); Fusion + Sonata (43 Points); Camry (42 Points)<br>Chassis - Accord (42 Points); Fusion (45 Points); Sonata (42 Points); Camry (40 Points)<br>Gotta-have-it factor/fun to drive - Accord (44 Points); Fusion (39 Points); Sonata (35 Points); Camry (33 Points)

FordRules
10-26-2005, 09:41 PM
Keep in mind that was C+D.Although the New 2006 Accord has a nice interior.C+D has a Honda Bias.

knicks125
10-27-2005, 04:38 AM
Honda Accord is a <I>damn</I> nice car so I would say C + D got it right. That said, I would agree with you, Fordrules, C + D does <U>seem</U> to show some bias toward Honda, as every comparison they are usually the winner - perhaps that's b/c the solid porfolio the automaker has... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/sheep.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><B>Alright let's get back on topic now</B> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by knicks125 at 9:01 AM 10/27/2005</i>

FordRules
11-01-2005, 06:18 PM
Few days ago i sat in both the fusion and sonata.<br>The sonata did have a safety recall on seat belts not working.But the Fusion dosnt have ABS(not stomach muscles) standard although than can be subjective.<br>The fusion is amazing exterior wise. Well the sonata is the second best exterior wise(I like the projector headlights).<p><br>Does the fusion have projectors??

StevenZoz
11-03-2005, 01:23 PM
we have a winner. the Motor Trend 2006 Sport Ute of the year is:<p><B>Nissan Xterra</B>

Nodnarb
11-03-2005, 02:32 PM
This is for the awards at NAIAS, not MT, or that was my understanding. The X-Terra winning was announced some time last week.

StevenZoz
11-03-2005, 02:38 PM
oo =X sorryy

Cozz
11-07-2005, 05:52 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Nodnarb</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is for the awards at NAIAS, not MT, or that was my understanding. The X-Terra winning was announced some time last week. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I don't know why the X-terra won. A bunch of cheap plastic, loose buttons, and almost no features.

knicks125
11-22-2005, 07:50 PM
<B>COTY</B><p>Premlinary vote - the list is now down to 14 (a very competitive list, I must say):<p><B>Remaining</B>: Audi A3, BMW 3 Series, Chevrolet HHR, Dodge Charger (R/T, SRT-8), Ford Fusion, Honda Civic/Civic Si/Civic Hybrid, Hyundai Sonata, Infiniti M35/45, Lexus IS 250/350, Mazda Miata MX-5, Mercedes-Benz R-Class, Pontiac Solstice, Toyota Avalon, Volkswagen Passat.<p><B>Those cut</B>: A4/S4, Buick Lucerne, Cadillac DTS, STS-V, Chevrolet Impala/Impala SS, Chrysler PT Curiser, Hyundai Azera, Accent, Kia Rio, Sedona, Lincoln Zephyr, Mazda 5, Mazdaspeed6, Mercury Milan, Mitsubishi Eclipse, Lancer Evo IX, Pontiac Grand Prix GXP, Torrent, Porsche Boxster/Boxster S, Saab 9-3 Sport Combi V-6 Turbo, Volkswagen Jetta, Jetta GLi.

knicks125
11-22-2005, 07:53 PM
<B>TOTY</B> - the list is now down to 14 vehicles:<p><B>Still there</B> - Dodge Ram/Ram Mega Cab, Ford Explorer, Honda Ridgeline, Hummer H3, Jeep Commander, Kia Sportage, Lexus RX 400h, Mercedes M-Class, Nissan Xterra, Range Rover Sport, Subaru B9 Tribeca, Suzuki Grand Vitara, Toyota RAV4 and Toyota Highlander Hybrid.<p><B>Off the list</B> - Mitsubushi Raider

FordRules
11-22-2005, 08:48 PM
The new explorer is cool!<br>I sat in one the other day.

Superfresa
11-23-2005, 05:56 PM
Go the RRSport!

megadethmartyr
11-23-2005, 08:37 PM
The Civic is the COTY, it's on motor trend's page. This is actually worse than the Prius. Sad day in the auto world.

knicks125
12-13-2005, 03:04 PM
Finalists:<p>NACOTY: Ford Fusion, Honda Civic and Pontiac Solstice<p>NATOTY: Ford Explorer, Honda Ridgeline and Nissan Xterra<p><A HREF="http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/051213/detu003.html?.v=32" TARGET="_blank">http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/05....v=32</A><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">In the last 12 years, domestic automakers have won the North American Car of the Year six times. Japanese automakers have won twice and European automakers have won four times.<p>In the last 12 years, domestic automakers have won North American Truck of the Year eight times. Japanese and European automakers have each won twice.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Sway to the domestics again this year? We'll find out soon...

FordRules
12-13-2005, 06:44 PM
My estimates for Fusion and Explorer are pretty good!

piokor
12-13-2005, 11:22 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>megadethmartyr</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Civic is the COTY, it's on motor trend's page. This is actually worse than the Prius. Sad day in the auto world.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>That's just the Motor Trend Car of the Year, not the North American Car of the Year. Also, why is the Prius winning bad? And why would the Civic winning be worse? From my point of the view, I can't see anything that would have been a better choice for the COTY last year when the Prius came out. It changed the public's view of hybrids for the better, which is a huge impact and has changed the entire industry. I don't even think Hyundai would even be developing a hybrid version of the Accent/Rio if it wasn't for the success of the Prius.<br>[Do you work for Hyundai or something? Just wondering because I don't understand how someone can be so passionate about Hyundais if they didn't work for them <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> ]<p>I believe that the Civic and the Ridgeline will win win the NA COTY and NA TOTY. The Civic is a great car, with the only minus being it's somewhat quirky styling. The Ridgeline on the other hand is one of the first trucks in a long time that's trying to reinvent what it means to be a truck.

knicks125
01-08-2006, 10:23 AM
<B>Honda Sweeps 'North American Car and Truck of the Year' Awards</B><br>2006 Honda Civic and 2006 Honda Ridgeline Take the Top Honors<p>Official Press Release - <A HREF="http://www.hondanews.com/CatID1000?mid=2006010837269&mime=asc" TARGET="_blank">http://www.hondanews.com/CatID...e=asc</A>

piokor
01-08-2006, 10:57 AM
Wow, I was right! Great job Honda!

JBlair
01-08-2006, 06:55 PM
No offense, but thats just plain crap. I can see the Civic winning, but the Ridgeline is full of half thought-out ideas and a crummy overall design. Once again, the badge on the vehicle has had more of an influence than the vehicle itself.

knicks125
01-09-2006, 06:54 AM
Personally I feel a better case might be made on the car side, since there wasn't much competition in the trucks category. Most people knew going in, there was a better than likely case the Ridgeline was going to take the honor home.