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Gallo
04-27-2005, 09:40 PM
Hi, I found this info in a mexican website (automovilonline, the website for Automovil Panamericano, maybe the best mexican magazine in Mexico), it said that the Duesenberg could be re-born with a new luxury coupe, there is a sketch of how maybe could it be. <br>The article said that this model, called Duesenberg Torpedo Coupe, will go out to the market in 2007. The name belongs to the Duesenberg Custom Couch company, who have the trade mark of the name. The design go with Teague Design, leading by Jeff Teague, who was former designer for Volkswagen, Mitsubishi and Ford. The new model share platform with the Mercedes Benz CLS, with an experimental V12 from E.P. Industries<br>You could check this article and the sketch, one of the first ideas, in this link below.<br><A HREF="http://www.terra.com.mx/automovil/articulo/159521" TARGET="_blank">http://www.terra.com.mx/automovil/articulo/159521</A>/<p>PD. I don't know if this is the correct place to post it, if I'm wrong, please redirect the topic. Thanks.

Santeno
04-28-2005, 08:51 AM
I did a little research and came up with this:<p><A HREF="http://www.supercars.net/cars/2007@$Duesenberg@$Torpedo%20Coupex.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.supercars.net/cars/....html</A><p><IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/PicFetch?pic=2007_bugatti_torpedo_coupe-1.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.supercars.net/PicFetch?pic=2007_bugatti_torpedo_coupe-2.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> 2007 DUESENBERG TORPEDO COUPE<p>An attempt is underway to revive the Duesenberg brand, a name associated with the fastest American car in 1935, the legendary Model J. The new Duesy, which is slated to hit market in 2007, then debut at the Detroit Auto Show, is called the Torpedo Coupe and will be launched as a luxurious supercoupe. <p>The old Duesenberg trademark is owned by a company called Duesenberg Custom Coach. They are planning to employ a wealth of talent including Teague Design Inc. to style the car and E.P. Industries, Inc. to power it. <p>Teague Design is led by Jeff Teague who has designed for Volkswagen, Mitsubishi and Ford, but the Duesenberg would be his most outrageous model yet. His first sketches reveal a sleek, long coupe that lends lines from teardrop French designs from the thirties.<p>The new Torpedo Coupe will share its platform with the Mercedes CLS 500, and will be powered by an experimental E.P. Industries V12 that will focus on engine efficiency and reduction of moving parts.<p>A project like the Duesenberg Torpedo Coupe is an ambitious task, especially compared to Bugatti with their recent quad turbo Veyron troubles which have become a liability to investors. Money aside, the Torpedo Coupe and Veyron still look like some of the most stunning and powerful supercars to be released this decade.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Here's a bit more info:<p><A HREF="http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=105333" TARGET="_blank">http://www.edmunds.com/insidel...05333</A><p><A HREF="http://www.webwombat.com.au/motoring/news/news0003.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://www.webwombat.com.au/mo...3.htm</A><p>Since this is just rumors for now, I think we'll leave it in this section until something more concrete appears.

Verdegrrl
04-28-2005, 06:21 PM
Not the first attempt, no doubt not the last.<p> <A HREF="http://www.madle.org/edues.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://www.madle.org/edues.htm</A> <p> <A HREF="http://www.imperialclub.com/Yr/1966/Duesenberg/" TARGET="_blank">http://www.imperialclub.com/Yr/1966/Duesenberg/</A> <p>I think there was another attempt later, but couldn't find it in a quick search.

Roadster44
04-28-2005, 08:27 PM
lol I love the fancy 8track setup in pics.

DSC-OFF
12-28-2005, 02:42 PM
<IMG SRC="http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y296/ef0ne/Jesse/fn4.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><I>The iconic Duesenberg name, associated with the fastest car in the US in 1935, the Model J, could be revived. If it happens, it'll be in the shape of a luxury super-coupe, the Torpedo Coupe, in 2007 - - and with a radical engine technology.<p>Designed by Jeff Teague, it'll be a four-seater with a unique engine. According to one source, it uses a <B>CEM (Cylindrical Energy Module) engine</B>. <p>Wassat? It's "<B>an air-cooled, self lubricating, forced-air inducted (supercharged), 12-cylinder, double ended, ported, multi-fuelled, four-stroke engine</B>", and it's made by Eddie Paul Industries. Despite its 300bhp output, it's said to return <B>70 mpg </B>from a package weighing a mere 45Kg -- a power-to-weight ratio that's unparalleled. It's tiny too, at 18 inches in diameter and 24 inches long. There's more about it on the EPI site.<p>Other details on the car are sparse though, and you have to wonder if this will ever see the light of day. If it does, though, expect to see the US auto industry line up to kill it: Ford and GM don't want to see their established technology challenged, unless it's by their own R&D departments.</I><p>Fascinating design, thisll make quite an interesting sound. Few bits..self lubricating..how? emissions? torque? And, based on that photo above, it says that this will be a 4-seater, how? (i understand its too early to tell & its just a preliminary sketch from an outsource). Its an interesting concept, although for me to deem this to be acceptable, it has to be over the top like Duesies of the past, it hasnt quite reached that with this notion<p>PistonHeads<br> <br>

Soul Man
12-28-2005, 02:55 PM
i did soem research on this type of engine a few weeks ago, and it is really quite a cool little thing. the company that produces it has an animation and when you first see it it will really confuse you in how it produces an ability to spin a crankshaft, but once you view it a few more times you get at least most of it (theres stilla few questions i have of it though), it really is cool, and its size and weight savings are insane. i mean on paper 12 S/C cylinders making 300 hp sounds liek sh!t, but when you see its size and realize how little it weighs, its really insane, assuming this car does go into production, and duesenberg doesnt place everyavailable weight creating feature in it, this car could be a very quick (due to its potential and probable low weight) very well balanced (due to the engines small size and low weight it will be able to creat a nice weight distribution) and still should offer enough luxuries to make this a prime touring car. even if this doesnt go into production i would really like ot see a company use this CEM. hey mazda youve kept the wankel rotary alive, maybe you can bring a CEM to market as another form of lightweight highly revolutionary engine

DSC-OFF
12-28-2005, 03:58 PM
<IMG SRC="http://www.epindustries.com/artwork/images/cemcompanyltd/cempum2.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Is it anything like that? Id like the link to that animation please (or is it the same one in Jalopnik?). Low friction materials sound awesome, but couple that with high temperatures & ICEs and what do you get? Unless the engine is made of polytetrafluoroethylene resin..then id see where the self-lubricating claims come from. If you ask me..either the engine-theory wont see the light of day, or the whole entire car wont, weve heard about all these revivals in the past, how many of them really come to life? Much less with these intricacies. I guess well be hearing from Cord, Auburn & Auto Union soon..<br> <br>

StevenZoz
12-28-2005, 04:04 PM
It looks like the Maybach Excelero(?) concept

IcedG35
12-28-2005, 04:20 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>stevenzoz</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It looks like the Maybach Excelero(?) concept</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I was just thinking that too. I'd be surprised if Merc contributes to this considering it would be direct competition for the Excelero, assuming some form of that will be produced at some point. Maybe I missed it but anyone know who is funding this or any affiliations? Will this be part of DCX?

Soul Man
12-28-2005, 04:24 PM
<A HREF="http://www.epindustries.com/cemanim.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.epindustries.com/cemanim.html</A><br>theres the site of the manufacturer and that is specifically the animation. <p>i seriously dont see this car becoming a reality, ive heard to many things about the revival of duesenberg to many times, but this engine seems pretty cool and id liek to see it become a reality.<p>the site also makes it seem as though this engine has been used before and is a true reality, it just seems its not a mass produced reality<p>"Our CEM Company supplies laser-cooling pumps to major aerospace companies as well as products for other large corporations in the automotive, industrial, and environmental fields"-EP industries on there CEM engine<p>"The CEM's internal components can be machined from advanced thermoplastic-based resins with ultra-low friction characteristics." jesse here seems to be some explanation of the self lubrication of the CEM from the EP site. <p><i>Modified by Soul Man at 6:29 PM 12/28/2005</i><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Soul Man at 6:35 PM 12/28/2005</i>

Soul Man
12-28-2005, 04:31 PM
the other thing i find odd is the drawings of the potential new duesenberg. seeing that this car is supposedly usign the CEM which si extrmely compact this car does have a long bonnet

IcedG35
12-29-2005, 12:20 AM
probably just places the engine way behind the front axle for possible rear biased weight distribution in a front engine car....that or just for some old fashioned styling

KebabGud
12-30-2005, 12:58 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>IcedG35</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I was just thinking that too. I'd be surprised if Merc contributes to this considering it would be direct competition for the Excelero, assuming some form of that will be produced at some point. Maybe I missed it but anyone know who is funding this or any affiliations? Will this be part of DCX?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>well .. the Excelero is not going into production .. but you can still buy one..<br>(the price is just €5.010.000 befor any tax and stuff)<p>but looking at the design .. something tellsme that this car if made is more then just a lookalike.. <br>the Excelero might be a mule!

Soul Man
12-30-2005, 01:21 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>IcedG35</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">probably just places the engine way behind the front axle for possible rear biased weight distribution in a front engine car....that or just for some old fashioned styling </TD></TR></TABLE><br>id imagine more for old fashioned styling, because the engine is so compact the hood need not be that long to get the engine that far back in teh chassis.

IcedG35
12-30-2005, 03:44 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>KebabGud</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>well .. the Excelero is not going into production .. but you can still buy one..<br>(the price is just €5.010.000 befor any tax and stuff)<p>but looking at the design .. something tellsme that this car if made is more then just a lookalike.. <br>the Excelero might be a mule!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>haha that'd be a real twist....How many Exceleros are there for sale? Also, I didn't think Excelero woudl be produced but I'd imagine some form of it will be....<p>Random thought, but how sweet would it be to open your garage door adn have an Excelero sitting next to a Caddy 16? It'd be a very long garage, but soooo hot

KebabGud
12-31-2005, 09:09 AM
it is true .. you can buy a excelero for €5mill <br>but i dont think anyone have bought any yet :P<br>if you buy one .. it will be hand built , it will be like a second consept car .. <p>there custom cars there is no limit.. all built on demand.. <br>

IcedG35
01-02-2006, 01:07 PM
Leave it to Leno