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erzhik
03-31-2005, 06:09 PM
Saab has used a 9-5 platform and is now getting a completely new one. They will get a modified Epsilon platform which will be used by new generation of Opel Vectra. <p>Second generation of Epsilon platform will allow to use a all-wheel-drive transmition. Which means that 9-3 and 9-5 will soon get a full wheel drive system. Epsilon will also be used by a new crossover, which will rival the BMW X3. <br>Saab also cancelled the 9-6 project after GM cancelled their ZETTA platforms. 9-6 was supposed to be a bigger sedan than the 9-5. But now 9-6 project is not going to be launched. shame...

JBlair
03-31-2005, 09:10 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>somebody..lol</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Saab has used a 9-5 platform and is now getting a completely new one. They will get a modified Epsilon platform which will be used by new generation of Opel Vectra. <p>Second generation of Epsilon platform will allow to use a all-wheel-drive transmition. Which means that 9-3 and 9-5 will soon get a full wheel drive system. Epsilon will also be used by a new crossover, which will rival the BMW X3. <br>Saab also cancelled the 9-6 project after GM cancelled their ZETTA platforms. 9-6 was supposed to be a bigger sedan than the 9-5. But now 9-6 project is not going to be launched. shame...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Proof?

erzhik
03-31-2005, 09:19 PM
oh yeah, but in russian though.... found it on the top auto magazin in russia...

nismo
03-31-2005, 11:15 PM
The 9-6 is a SUV. 9-6x based on Subaru's B9 Tribeca... But the 9-5 itself was rumuored to be based on the Zeta but now it most likely going to be based on the revised Epsilon platform.

erzhik
04-01-2005, 07:26 AM
exactly.. but 9-6 is not going to make it into production because of Zetta platform canceletation

jro4566
04-01-2005, 05:33 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>somebody..lol</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">exactly.. but 9-6 is not going to make it into production because of Zetta platform canceletation</TD></TR></TABLE><p>9-6X won't be based on Zeta though...

nismo
04-01-2005, 06:29 PM
Exactly, the 9-6x/Subaru Tribeca SUVs have nothing what so ever to do with the Zeta platform.

mzoltarp
04-09-2005, 06:08 AM
Car and Driver reports that the 96X will be a Chevy Equinox clone and that Daewoo will produce it.

italo
04-09-2005, 08:27 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Proof?</TD></TR></TABLE><p><A HREF="http://www.autocarmagazine.com/News_Article.asp?ST=&NA_ID=214462&EL_ID" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autocarmagazine.com...EL_ID</A>=<p>Saab's future crystallises<br>8 April 2005<p>The future for Saab is looking considerably brighter. According to inside sources, the next 9-3 and 9-5 models  both due in 2008  could move exclusively to four-wheel drive, giving the brand a performance edge in the hard-fought premium car market.<p>Carl-Peter Forster, chairman of the Saab board and president of GM Europe, gave broad hints about the new plan. Front-drive is no longer a core Saab value, but agile, predictable handling definitely is.<p>The new Saabs will be based on GMs Epsilon 2 platform. Sources say the structure will be offered in two widths, the wider of which would underpin larger cars such as the next Saab 9-5.<p>There is some confusion over the form the new 9-5 will take, however. Forster has promised that Saab will build a global crossover vehicle, but sources say this could also replace the 9-5 estate.<p>Saabs plans for its own version of the Subaru Tribeca crossover vehicle look close to collapse, too. A concept version of the car scheduled for the New York Motor Show didnt appear. However, sources have confirmed to Autocar that a Saab rival to the Audi A3 is likely to be launched later in the decade.<br>

Cozz
04-09-2005, 02:16 PM
What is GM doing to Saab? Stop the madness! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/crying.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/crying.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/crying.gif" BORDER="0">

-Peter-
04-11-2005, 11:52 PM
GM is hoping that they can do same thing to a saab that Ford did with volvo. But it not gonna happen the way GM is doing it. They shouldn have done those subaru and chevrolet clones, that destroys the image of saab. <p>Ford was clever and started the new life of volvo with the biggest model, and made that good, and desirable car. then they create the whole line-up again. no badge-engineering. and those cars really looks like Volvos<p>but saab is always been smaller player than volvo. with new mediocre cars that doesnt have any Saabism in them, its quite difficult task for GM

Nick
04-12-2005, 01:01 AM
saab has never done good...they didnt do well by themselves and they aren't doing well now...

JBlair
04-12-2005, 03:33 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>-Peter-</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">GM is hoping that they can do same thing to a saab that Ford did with volvo. But it not gonna happen the way GM is doing it. They shouldn have done those subaru and chevrolet clones, that destroys the image of saab. <p>Ford was clever and started the new life of volvo with the biggest model, and made that good, and desirable car. then they create the whole line-up again. no badge-engineering. and those cars really looks like Volvos<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>First of all, most people who buy the Saabaru and the Baab (the 9-7x shares more with the Buick SUV), will not recognize the fact that they are essentially clones of the other vehicles. (that is, unless they're car freaks). Secondly, Ford kept its hands off Volvo, for the most part, and let them develop their own vehicles and did not meddle. <p>As for Saab, I could actually see myself buying a 9-2x in its current form, because I like the execution of the front and rear, and the overall vehicle fits well with Saab's values.

Santeno
04-13-2005, 08:04 AM
I agree with johnny on the 9-2, except in that the fit and finish and the interior are very unsaab like. Just close the hollow sounding doors to hear the windows rattle, and prepare your self for the full enjoyment of the Impreza interior, you just paid a nice premium for. GM has the right Idea with this car, but the execution has, let's say, compromised. I'm guessing that they won't be making the same mistake twice.

knicks125
04-13-2005, 08:09 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As for Saab, I could actually see myself buying a 9-2x in its current form, because I like the execution of the front and rear, and the overall vehicle fits well with Saab's values.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I agree, the 9-2x is an attractive vehicle...I would get one if I was in need of one...but sales are very low due to various reasons...

zwei Biere bitte
04-13-2005, 06:42 PM
I actually don't like it when I see a 9-2X (Which rarely occurs) I wish GM would just give Saab a platform, some money, and leave the rest to the engineers there, not rebadge vehicles that are very un Saab like. I would not imagine myself getting a 9-2X because all I would be doing is paying $3,000 premium for an Impreza with some styling differences. I honestly hope the 9-2X and 9-7X fail miserably so that GM can rethink their stragegy.

Roadster44
04-13-2005, 09:32 PM
I always thought that SAAB should be all-wheel drive and offer that serene and yet inspiring drive. Along with that there should be interesting to look at exteriors and pleasing to be interiors. But knowing GM they will probably make this car really conservative, give it floaty suspension, numb steering and it will drive like a Hyundai (boring)

knicks125
04-14-2005, 05:28 AM
There you go again with your nonsense and over-generalization, you haven't even driven one Hyundai and you already KNOW they are all boring, right?<p>Just to provide some perspective here and shed some light, yes, most mainstream sedans are what you called boring, they are designed that way, for families and safety. Every mainstream and entry level car companies has them. If you want more of a fun type cars, may I suggest you go try some coupes, for starters, both GM and Hyundai have them.<p>Remind me, weren't you the one that said in one thread you can't drive a Hyundai to a job interview because they won't hire you or give you equal opportunity <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><B>EDIT: My point being, even if I wasn't a Hyundai fan, I would point this out to you. Your statement shows you have little or no knowledge, wouldn't it be the same as if you said Ford was boring, Honda was boring...next time please be specific and back up your sayings with facts.</B><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by knicks125 at 9:16 AM 4/14/2005</i>

Roadster44
04-14-2005, 08:21 AM
lol Knicks...how predictable. Pardon me, but I like to torment people every now and then. But its okay I still love you. Which part of my comment wasn't true?

-Peter-
04-14-2005, 12:49 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">First of all, most people who buy the Saabaru and the Baab (the 9-7x shares more with the Buick SUV), will not recognize the fact that they are essentially clones of the other vehicles. (that is, unless they're car freaks). <br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yes, its maybe that way in US, but if 9-2 would be sold in Europe, Im sure every car-mag would be saying its not real Saab, They had a testdrive of "Saab" 9-2 in finnish magazine (although they dont sell it here) and the whole article was about the japanese feeling of that car <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> they said that the exterior was saabish, but not the feeling and sound of the car<p>And that is very important to a European car-buyer, and they really read car-mags before they go to buy car.

nismo
04-14-2005, 06:31 PM
the car mags in the US already say that. The 9-2s go for real cheap way below list price...<p>SAAB needs an overhaul. The only one I truly like is the 9-3.. and I actually like it alot. I want one for my grad gift... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">