View Full Version : Toyota to drop Echo and Restyle Scion xA

Naga Royal Guard
01-13-2005, 07:50 AM
<A HREF="http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0501/13/B02-58761.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://www.detnews.com/2005/au...1.htm</A><p>Thursday, January 13, 2005<p><br>Toyota to pull compact Echo from lineup in '06<p>The automaker plans to add 22 new products within the next 15 months.<p>By Christine Tierney / The Detroit News<p>Comment on this story<br>Send this story to a friend<br>Get Home Delivery <br> <p>Toyota Motor Co.p. will replace the unpopular Echo compact with two European-styled small cars to be launched in the United States in 2006 as part of an aggressive model rollout. <p>"Twenty-two new products are coming in the next 15 months," Jim Press, chief operating officer of Toyota Motor Sales, told analysts Wednesday. "One of the ways we're going to fuel ourselves in the market is through a product blitz." <p>Toyota's new or redesigned models will include fuel-efficient, gas-electric versions of the Toyota Highlander and premium Lexus RX sport utility vehicles, new Lexus IS and GS sport sedans, and a revamped Scion xA hatchback. <p>With the launch next month of a larger and more powerful Avalon flagship sedan, the Japanese automaker is bolstering the high end of the Toyota brand's car lineup. <p>Its mid-sized Camry was the best-selling car in the United States last year, and the smaller Corolla is successful. But Toyota had a weak entry-level contender in the Echo. Echo sales fell to below 4,000 in 2004 from a peak of 48,876 in 2000. <p>"People were disappointed in the Echo. They didn't like the look of the vehicle, inside and out," said Rebecca Lindland, an auto analyst at research and consulting firm Global Insight. <p>"A variety of people buy entry-level vehicles, and they're not always fresh out of college. That buyer wants to get as much car for their money as they possibly can," Lindland said. <p>Nissan Motor Co. and Honda Motor Co. also plan to bring new entry-level cars to the U.S. market. Nissan will launch one or possibly two subcompacts that share underpinnings with the Cube sold in Japan. Honda will introduce a subcompact smaller than the Civic in 2006. <p>Press did not identify the European-styled cars that will replace the Echo, but Toyota has developed several attractive cars in Europe to compete in the region's cutthroat small-car market. They include the Yaris, a rounded compact minivan. <p>The Echo faced stiff competition from Toyota's own youth-oriented Scion brand. Scion sold nearly 100,000 vehicles in 2004, the first year the brand became available nationwide, up ninefold from 2003 levels. <p>Next year, Scion will roll out a restyled xA hatchback, the least popular car in the lineup. <p>Speaking at an analysts' conference in Dearborn, Press forecast that Scion sales would rise to around 120,000 vehicles this year. Overall, Toyota expects Toyota-brand, Scion and Lexus sales to rise between 3 percent and 5 percent from last year's total of 2.1 million vehicles. <p>You can reach Christine Tierney at (313) 222-1463 or ctierney@detnews.com.<p>

01-13-2005, 08:38 AM
oh good they noticed...

01-13-2005, 02:33 PM
About time. I hate to say this but the Echo is one of the ugliest cars I have ever seen even though I love Toyota. <p>Toyota should make the Scion AX more Scion tC-ish.

01-13-2005, 05:01 PM
I like the xA as it is! I think its much too soon for a redesign.

01-13-2005, 05:27 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Naga Royal Guard</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><A HREF="http://www.detnews.com/2005/autosinsider/0501/13/B02-58761.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://www.detnews.com/2005/au...1.htm</A><p>Toyota's new or redesigned models will include fuel-efficient, gas-electric versions of the Toyota Highlander and premium Lexus RX sport utility vehicles, new Lexus IS and GS sport sedans, and a revamped Scion xA hatchback. <p><br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>how exciting

01-13-2005, 07:14 PM
they still sell the echo?

01-13-2005, 10:54 PM
Hopefully they bring the new Yaris to the US.

01-14-2005, 12:23 PM
I believe the Yaris is already sold in Canada.

01-14-2005, 04:17 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Verdegrrl</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I believe the Yaris is already sold in Canada.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Yeah-- the old one!

01-14-2005, 04:45 PM
go to the bottom to see a screencap of the lexus press conference where they showed a picture of the emblem GS450h.<p><A HREF="http://www.clublexus.com/forum...age=3" TARGET="_blank">http://www.clublexus.com/forum...age=3</A><p>

01-14-2005, 08:26 PM
The Toyota Echo, in Australia, is sold as a 3dr, 5dr hatch - a rebadged European Toyota Yaris and a 4dr sedan, which is the same Echo sedan sold in North America. We don't get the 2dr Echo sedan though.<p>Last year, Toyota sold 20,000 Echo's in Australia, but it was the 3dr, 5dr Echo hatch, that was the most popular. The sedan only made up 3,000 of the 20,000 Echo's sold.

01-14-2005, 08:44 PM
At this rate Toyota will have 75 models between 14 and 21k by 2010, based on three platforms.

Naga Royal Guard
01-14-2005, 11:48 PM
spread allover the world, not a bad idea :)

01-15-2005, 04:04 PM
If Toyota does not plan to replace the Echo with the new Vitz most likely the next Scion xA will be the Vitz. because there haven't been any news of a new JDM Toyota Ist (JDM Scion xA). In a way it makes sense but I thought Toyota would want to offer a sub-compact under the Toyota nameplate. Either way the new Vitz most likely is heading to the U.S. and soon.

01-15-2005, 05:44 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>syclone</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">they still sell the echo?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>basically they are still selling few hundred per month to old people, journalists did not get the memo it seems :-). Combined xA and xB took over Echo sales completly, I dont think you can easily get an Echo even if you wanted to since Scions started selling...<p>It appears to me that something like Vios will come as Echo replacement in the states, while new Yaris is going into Scion line (all hatchbacks to scion?)

01-15-2005, 11:08 PM
I think your right. they're probably going to bring the next vios for the Echo replacement and have the Vitz/Yaris for the next Scion xA. Thats a reasonable idea. Does anyone know when the Vios came out and when its going to be replaced?

01-16-2005, 04:41 AM
The new generation Toyota Vios was only recently introduced to Asia, less than 6 month's ago and is only sold as a 4dr sedan.<p>It was meant to be a built for China, but is now being built all over Asia.<p>The same idea has been mentioned in Australia before, as a replacement for the Echo 4dr sedan.

01-16-2005, 10:38 AM
Anyone heard anything about GX 450h?:<br><A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/index.asp?article=7951" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co...=7951</A><p>

Naga Royal Guard
01-16-2005, 11:36 AM
TCC is morons and confused the GS and GX

01-16-2005, 12:38 PM
So does this mean the new Peugot/Toyota is going to replace the xA?

01-16-2005, 01:21 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>chibi ichigo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Yeah-- the old one!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well they can always replace it with the new one, I won't complain. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">