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Ascariss
12-20-2004, 08:54 PM
<I>From Autonews.com<p>Ford Motor Co. will introduce a North American car smaller than the Focus in 2007 or 2008. Retiring executive Jim O'Connor confirmed Ford's plans for a new subcompact last week.</I><p>Makes sense, I could see this car doing much better in Canada than the US, and personally feel it should be sold here first to test the market. Once it is released, I say Ford needs to import the Mark 2 Euro Focus, facelfited version of course. Maybe the new focus will be able to finally compete against the mazda 3 and golf V when it comes.

CalinG7
12-21-2004, 01:52 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Ascariss</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Makes sense, I could see this car doing much better in Canada than the US, and personally feel it should be sold here first to test the market. Once it is released, I say Ford needs to import the Mark 2 Euro Focus, facelfited version of course. Maybe the new focus will be able to finally compete against the mazda 3 and golf V when it comes.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It'd be wierd to have this sub-Focus car here and for Ford to keep the old Focus in the lineup too. By then, the sub-Focus class will have grown a bit, in size, performance, and refinement, and it will compete too closely with our ancient Focus here in the US. Hopefully by them Ford do wake up and bring over the C!

Nuvolari
12-21-2004, 04:07 AM
Here in europe we have the 'KA', 'FIESTA' and 'FUSION', all of them placed below the Focus. KA and Fiesta are too small to be introduced to Canada or the US, but the Fusion could do well, i think:<br><IMG SRC="http://www.autoluttre.be/images/ford_fusion.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>Source: <A HREF="http://www.autoluttre.be" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoluttre.be</A><p>The Fusion gets a facelift in 2005, it will get a fresher lookand new engines.<p>In Argentina Ford has an anlog car, called 'EcoSport':<br><IMG SRC="http://www.autoinforme.com.br/foto_noticia/foto-noticia-id-g748.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>Source: <A HREF="http://www.autoinforme.com.br" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoinforme.com.br</A><p>The EcoSport is a more suv-like compact, but both cars are based on the platform of the european Fiesta and have a comparable size.<p>BTW: I think Ford made a mistake with just facelifting the old Focus for the U.S.. Although it was a very good car, the new Focus here in Europe gets very very good results in comparisons.<br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Nuvolari at 3:22 AM 12/21/2004</i>

Snake Vargas
12-21-2004, 07:47 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Nuvolari</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here in europe we have the 'KA', 'FIESTA' and 'FUSION', all of them placed below the Focus. KA and Fiesta are too small to be introduced to Canada or the US, but the Fusion could do well, i think:<p>...<p>BTW: I think Ford made a mistake with just facelifting the old Focus for the U.S.. Although it was a very good car, the new Focus here in Europe gets very very good results in comparisons.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The Fusion looks like a nice smallish and practical car. The Fiesta would be too small for the US, IMO, and the Ka is what I would say is too small for Australia, heck too small for anything! j/k I hear European cities can get crowded <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Anyhow, I think they should bring the new Focus to America, too. It has got some very good reviews, bringing the fight to the Golf V. Americans aren't stupid, I expect those that have a passing interest in cars will soon know that the Europeans have an all-new Focus that is much better.

Philsshon
12-21-2004, 08:12 AM
I love the ecosport, send it over now!

MrMGMan
12-21-2004, 03:53 PM
I thought the European Fusion was little more than a slightly jacked up and lightly restyled version of the Fiesta? I've always thought of it as being to the Fiesta range what the Streetwise is to the Rover 25.

zwei Biere bitte
12-21-2004, 07:39 PM
Any reason why Ford just can't import the Fiesta or something like that? <p>Anyway, if Ford does bring over a smaller car, I seriously doubt it will do well in the U.S unless it has a character like the Mini Cooper or possibly the smart fortwo.

Ascariss
12-22-2004, 05:41 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>zwei Biere bitte</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Any reason why Ford just can't import the Fiesta or something like that? <p>Anyway, if Ford does bring over a smaller car, I seriously doubt it will do well in the U.S unless it has a character like the Mini Cooper or possibly the smart fortwo. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Maybe its the next generation Fiesta based off the Mazda 2 platform. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

SV
12-22-2004, 09:52 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Nuvolari</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...Fiesta are too small to be introduced to Canada or the US,...<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>actually, i doubt the fiesta would be too small, it would be the size of a toyota echo or kia rio. and i thought the mazda2 was based off the current fiesta <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

Ascariss
12-23-2004, 01:05 AM
Mazda 2 is a new platform for ford motor co, it will have the new fiesta based off it I believe. Your right SV, the Fiesta would do just fine against the Nissan March (Micra) and the Echo hatch. I could see it do well in canada easily, its a ford and a domestic so it would cost less than the echo and march.

davidChief
12-23-2004, 02:19 AM
The Fusion is effectively a jacked up Fiesta estate. The Ecosport and Fusion have a LOT of similarities. Makes you wonder why Ford don't bring an AWD Fiesta-based model to Europe. The Ecosport is cheap so I'm sure it would sell well.<p>The Fusion has had some very poor reviews in the UK press but despite this it is selling well.<p>And I agree, NA should have got the new Focus rather than a rehashed Mk1. By all accounts the new car is a huge step forwards, especially on the quality front.

HondaTech
12-23-2004, 03:52 AM
I think the current platform used by the Fiesta and Mazda2 is developed by Ford. However, rumor has it that the next gen replacement for both cars will be Mazda engineered.

davidChief
12-23-2004, 05:09 AM
That's fine by me as long as Ford do the chassis.

bolita
12-23-2004, 12:59 PM
Both the Euro Fusion and EcoSport are basically the same car which are based on a reinforced Fiesta platform. The EcoSport is available with a 2.0L engine (Duratec) so if Ford is looking for small vehicles I feel that the Fiesta sedan (only available from the Brazilian plant at this time) and EcoSport in both 4x2 and 4x4 versions could be adapted for the US. The problem is that the Camacari plant in Brazil is maxed out as are suppliers and they can't produce more units than what they are for the Latin Market.<p>In any case both vehciles would need some work to meet US consumer standards for fit and finish IMO

Hornbag
12-25-2004, 09:51 PM
Can someone give me a link to the euro-sport web site, i want more pictures (fab car)! This car rox! And the Fusion, well if they brought that car over they would have to rename it, lol!

Gian86
12-26-2004, 04:34 AM
We used to have Ford Festiva long time ago which is use the same platform as Kia small car from overseas which i can't even remember what the name of Kia's car is but this car sells heaps well here from mid 1990's to 2001. Then we used to have Ka in 2000 which is bit poor in car sells then this year is Fiesta which sells more better than Ka. I'm very proud what Australian people doing with Fiesta more than Ka because i hate that car. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/pukeface.gif" BORDER="0">