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Naga Royal Guard
11-05-2004, 09:50 PM
From today's Automotive News:<p>FORD CONSIDERING SELLING NEW MUSTANG IN EUROPE; NEWEST VERSION PROVING POPULAR<p>The 2005 Mustang may be the one Ford Motor Co. North American vehicle that could generate some excitement for Ford's struggling European operations.<p>At least some Europeans are clamoring for the reborn sports car, which bears a close resemblance to the classic 1969-70 Mach I. The very first retail sale of a 2005 Mustang went to a German couple who bought the car in California and shipped it back to Germany, said Hau Thai-Tang, the Mustang's chief engineer.<p>Mustang team members met with Ford of Europe officials, Thai-Tang said, to see if there was a business case for the new Mustang to be sold there. With the rise of diesel engines, regulatory requirements and other factors, Ford officials decided they likely could not generate and sustain enough sales.<p>But during a panel discussion ahead of the opening of the Specialty Equipment Market Association (SEMA) show, Thai-Tang said he believes Ford officials should re-examine that decision.<p>"We just weren't able to convince them that there was a compelling market slot for the Mustang of any sustained volume," said Thai-Tang. "In hindsight, maybe it is something we should look at again." he said.<p>The new Mustang, with its muscular looks, powerful engines and affordable price, is shaping up to be the most popular version of the long-running pony car in decades. Ford expects to build about 160,000 Mustangs in 2005 and sell them all with a few or no incentives.<p>The car's performance, price and striking looks have attracted attention overseas.<p>"There is quite a bit of interest in Europe," said Thai-Tang. "I attended some shows in the United Kingdom. The only analogy I can give is it would be like us going to a Beatles-fest. All of these Brits showed up flying the confederate flag, wearing cowboy boots and had country music blasting. They were showing off their Mustangs."<p><B>So what do you think guys? Ford reads this forum, let them know if you guys would be interested in seeing the Mustang in Europe... </B><p>posted by Santeno<p><A HREF="http://carspyshots.proboards2.com/index.cgi?board=rumor&action=display&num=1099415237" TARGET="_blank">http://carspyshots.proboards2....15237</A><br>

zwei Biere bitte
12-20-2004, 05:57 PM
I think it would probably be a good thing to bring it over...<p>It would probably sell there as sort of a niche car first, and then once it had a reputation like in the next generation, Ford could import as a mainstream car.

Gian86
12-21-2004, 10:45 PM
That will be excellent idea for europeans, i hope this car will also have a chance to bring this car here and many asian countries as well.

davidChief
12-23-2004, 02:26 AM
I would buy one if it was sold alongside the Focus with a 3 year warranty. I think Ford would be quite suprised to see how popular something like this would be in the UK. Much more popular than dull coupes like the Probe and Cougar.

The Spy
12-29-2004, 10:30 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>zwei Biere bitte</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think it would probably be a good thing to bring it over...<p>It would probably sell there as sort of a niche car first, and then once it had a reputation like in the next generation, Ford could import as a mainstream car. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>In the mid-90s Ford already had an marketing-idea like that in Germany (maybe also in other European countries, but I don't know about that). It was called "Ford Unlimited" and was just an generic term for some US-imported vehicles or at least US-like vehicles. At that time the program (which was theoretically just a name for group of vehicles, to differentiate these models from the rest of the range) included the Windstar, Explorer, Probe the Maverick (the predecessor of the actual Ford Escape) and, if I remember correctly, the Escort Cabriolet was also included. At that time I thought something like that was a good idea, but "Ford Unlimited" surrvived only about 2 years.<p>But I think it would be a good idea to relaunch it and include the new Mustang.<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

Naga Royal Guard
12-29-2004, 10:33 AM
would the solid axle ride well on the harder streets

taskbearer
12-30-2004, 01:33 AM
Thats a good question to ask, this would be most noticable in the UK.<br>

Santeno
12-30-2004, 09:13 AM
I thought the new mustang had a suspension set-up like that on the Jaguar S-Type, lincoln LS and Ford Thunderbird that it is based on? I thought they had dropped the live rear axle.

Naga Royal Guard
12-30-2004, 10:03 AM
nope, its still live; for now

summersun54
01-05-2005, 05:25 AM
The stang is a nice car... but.... it would be too big,too expensive and way way to thirsty for European consuption.<br>The solid rear axle would be laughed at when you conisder that the focus has its fully independant rear end.<p>By the time european taxes and the price of petrol were taken into consideration Ford might manage a handfull of sales a year accross Europe

RikfromBelgium
01-05-2005, 06:01 AM
please keep it in the US, thank you

summersun54
01-07-2005, 04:16 AM
Actually Autocar in the UK, tested the new mustang and really liked it, so I was well wrong.. They found no problem with the live axle as the traction control took care of the car's behaviour on the road. They praised the handling and even complementary of the fit and finish.(usually the European motor press are not when it comes to US built cars) The car can be bought as a special import for about 25,000 in the uk for the 300bhp v8 model..<br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bowdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bowdown.gif" BORDER="0">

syclone
01-07-2005, 05:56 AM
I just can't see it selling well in the UK with the price of Petrol. I can see the appeal, though, for a certain crowd who will use it for weekend drives. No way could it become a primary driver as it often is in the states.

Top Secret
01-07-2005, 06:14 AM
If the Vauxhall Monaro sold well in the UK (I don't know the figures, did it?), there'd be no doubt the Mustang should get equal popularity and sales success.

summersun54
01-10-2005, 09:41 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>syclone</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just can't see it selling well in the UK with the price of Petrol. I can see the appeal, though, for a certain crowd who will use it for weekend drives. No way could it become a primary driver as it often is in the states.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Agreed. that drink problem would put paid to any volume sales. but Ford would know that ,it is a niche car in Europe...the price inclusive of VAT and other taxes & the emissions tax in the uk would limit its appeal to those who can afford it ..But it is a fantastic looking car..it looks like it should be driven hard(anyone fancy loosing their Drivers license in no time at all)

davidChief
01-10-2005, 03:37 PM
Evo magazine drove the new Mustang on British roads and reported that it dealt with them nicely. Although they did conclude that it failed to better the 350Z.

spwolf
01-10-2005, 05:58 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>summersun54</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Agreed. that drink problem would put paid to any volume sales. but Ford would know that ,it is a niche car in Europe...the price inclusive of VAT and other taxes & the emissions tax in the uk would limit its appeal to those who can afford it ..But it is a fantastic looking car..it looks like it should be driven hard(anyone fancy loosing their Drivers license in no time at all)</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Agreed - also, it would sell well in UK and other larger markets because tradtionally they are more accepting of different cars. Problem with Europe is that it is not an united market really, unlike USA.<p>Of course, it would never sell as well as in USA and as long as they know that it will be ok. And I dont really think European Ford lineup is that bad really, there is not that much wrong with the lineup itself, just that they dont get much development money.

syclone
01-13-2005, 07:23 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>davidChief</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Evo magazine drove the new Mustang on British roads and reported that it dealt with them nicely. Although they did conclude that it failed to better the 350Z.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>yes, but fortunately for the mustang, its styling is better than the bar of soap beat up with a scalpel hideous ugly mess that is the 350z.

summersun54
01-14-2005, 03:30 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>syclone</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>yes, but fortunately for the mustang, its styling is better than the bar of soap beat up with a scalpel hideous ugly mess that is the 350z.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>now that is fighting talk to alll those nissan fans out there...<br>but are ford not talking already of improving the ride of the mustang..the rumor is that the live axle might be ditched for an independant set up(but if the car sells well why bother..wait till sales start cooling of)

syclone
01-14-2005, 11:39 AM
True. Perhaps they planned it that way from the start. Sell it on the styling, and upgrade when the novelty wears off. Or it could just be IRS for the Cobra, like last time. Still, the live axle has its merits for those who do drag racing conversions. Hard to see the live axle disappearing all together. Maybe IRS could be an option, or even the live axle an option for those who swear by it.