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against the wall
05-23-2005, 12:24 PM
does anybody have any information on the new golf coming to us and when?

zwei Biere bitte
05-23-2005, 05:05 PM
This fall it should come over, just a little over its current price.

mzoltarp
05-25-2005, 04:55 PM
I predict abismal sales. It looks outdated. It will have the horrible 5 cylinder. The GTI will get the turbo and not the VR6. Very sad indeed. I'm a total VW fan.

Ascariss
05-25-2005, 05:47 PM
Fall huh, well the latest I heard was summer 06 but if fall is the case, should help the sales of course, but if it has a price increase of the same scale as the jetta had in canada, I am not sure it will fly off the shelves that quickly. <p>The car in person doesn't look all tha bad, inside it is fine. It doesn't look that tall in person when I first saw it in pictures. Uhm hopefully it will come in the fall, maybe it will force BMW to introduce the 1er to canada faster.

Christopher
05-26-2005, 10:41 PM
The new Golf is selling pretty well down here and the local car magazines love it especially the new GTi which received 4.5 out 5 stars and was labelled brilliant.<br>I wasn't a huge fan of previous Golfs but the new one's rather desirable. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/driver.gif" BORDER="0">

geary
05-26-2005, 11:50 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Christopher</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The new Golf is selling pretty well down here and the local car magazines love it especially the new GTi which received 4.5 out 5 stars and was labelled brilliant.<br>I wasn't a huge fan of previous Golfs but the new one's rather desirable. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/driver.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>They have loved it. I see about 20 or so a day. GTi is looking good for Car of the Year.

mzoltarp
05-29-2005, 06:56 AM
The fact that VW wasn't able to have the car production ready for the USA from day one is ludicrous. By the time it gets here it will have been on sale elsewhere for at least 2 years. This just screams loud and clear the VW is not interested in being a major force in the American market.

zwei Biere bitte
05-29-2005, 09:17 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mzoltarp</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The fact that VW wasn't able to have the car production ready for the USA from day one is ludicrous. By the time it gets here it will have been on sale elsewhere for at least 2 years. This just screams loud and clear the VW is not interested in being a major force in the American market.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>They had the resources, it's just that since the Golf sells in such low numbers here, there was no reason to rush.

mzoltarp
05-29-2005, 10:28 AM
I disagree! A GTi with VR6 and turbo options would have been a blessed event for the dealers. The dealers were HURTING for product ANY new product. VW messed up. Now when the GTi gets here it will be outdated. Maybe VW will give a depreciation rebate to sell them.

JBlair
05-29-2005, 10:35 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mzoltarp</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I disagree! A GTi with VR6 and turbo options would have been a blessed event for the dealers. The dealers were HURTING for product ANY new product. VW messed up. Now when the GTi gets here it will be outdated. Maybe VW will give a depreciation rebate to sell them.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>How do you figure? It will be newer than anything else in its' segment.

mzoltarp
05-31-2005, 06:22 AM
JBLAIR: Very simple! If you're a VW fanatic and you want a new GTi you've had to put up with the old outdated one for two years so when it finally does arrive, in your mind, you've been thinking about it for two years and it's old hat. You apparently think that American VW enthusiasts are blifully unaware that the new GTi is coming and they will be stunned when it arrives and will have no knowledge that it's going into its third year of production. VW screwed up on this one immensely. The GTi needed to hit the USA from the moment production started. They bungled the production roll out and the dismal sales of the all new Golf in the USA will scream it. For now, I will continue to autocross my Rabbit GTi.

MrMGMan
05-31-2005, 07:51 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mzoltarp</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The fact that VW wasn't able to have the car production ready for the USA from day one is ludicrous. By the time it gets here it will have been on sale elsewhere for at least 2 years. This just screams loud and clear the VW is not interested in being a major force in the American market.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Why should they be so concerned with the Golf being a major force in the US? They sell virtually every one they can build in Europe, where the Golf has traditionally been VW's best selling car, and the continent's best selling car full stop. They shift around 700,000 examples a year in Europe, sales figures they couldn't hope to replicate in the US, so why bother rushing the car out over there?<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mzoltarp</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">JBLAIR: Very simple! If you're a VW fanatic and you want a new GTi you've had to put up with the old outdated one for two years so when it finally does arrive, in your mind, you've been thinking about it for two years and it's old hat.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The new Golf GTi hasn't been on the market for anything like 2 years, in fact, deliveries in the UK only began in March, so if the US is getting it late this autumn, they're only 8 months behind the European roll-out for the GTi, not a full 2 years.

mzoltarp
06-01-2005, 05:32 AM
VW either has to decide that it will play in the US market or concede that it cannot and leave. Right now they are talking like they are players in the market but operating like they are planning to phase out. The overpirced and SLOW Passat W8. The New Beetle allowed to wither and die. The overpriced Phaeton. The overpriced Toaureg. The overpriced new Jetta. The overpriced new Passat. The horribly delayed GTi. The cancelled retro inspired minivan. What VW does or does not do in Europe is not even remotely a part of the equation. VW dealers have been screaming for new product for about 3 years. I know this personally. The fact that the new GTi could have been here from the moment the new Golf was introduced and they are still fumbling around for a build date for the USA has really angered dealers. The overpriced Jetta is a very slow mover from the lots. VW is playing its hand foolishly.

AM2
06-01-2005, 12:06 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mzoltarp</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I predict abismal sales. It looks outdated. It will have the horrible 5 cylinder. The GTI will get the turbo and not the VR6. Very sad indeed. I'm a total VW fan.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Is the underpowered 5-cylinder only for the North American market? ...or will europe and asia see this in a future VW model?<br>I believe in other countries, below the 200hp 2-liter FSI turbo is the 150hp 2-liter FSI.<p>Would have been better if it made at least an extra 15hp...

mzoltarp
06-02-2005, 05:37 AM
The GTi will likely be the turbo to placate the import tuner boys who love high strung kabang! turbos with NOS. Give me a VR6.

taskbearer
06-02-2005, 11:35 AM
VW quickly needs to identify what and where they want to be in the US market. In europe it seems they've got everything straight. The new passat is receiving rave reviews and its not as overpriced there as it is in the US. But what VW is doing in the US is half hearted. Why not just bring the 2.0 fsi in the jetta( This is the engine that would go into all jettas except for the US)...why? The engine produces no more HP than the FSi motor, but weighs the car down and is very lazy. not diesel like cause at least you can play with the torque in a diesel. They seem to be neglecting the american market.