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anonms
04-20-2005, 08:40 PM
Does anyone know much about the CR-V fires?<p>My mom's CR-V just got its first oil change and I am very paranoid.

knicks125
04-21-2005, 05:18 AM
This might be of help:<p><A HREF="http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/crv_fires.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.consumeraffairs.com....html</A><p>And yes, I would be concerned too...

anonms
04-21-2005, 06:27 PM
What I'm nore concerned is that if the fire does occur, will the damage be covered by the warranty? If it renders the CR-V useless, will Honda give us a new, free, replacement CR-V? And if they do (which I doubt they would do), could we opt to get, like, a check for the same amount of money that we had paid to buy the CR-V (cuz really, who'd want to risk having another potential bonfire-on-wheels?)?

Cozz
04-21-2005, 08:50 PM
No need to be concerned. That problem was taken cared of along time ago.

anonms
04-23-2005, 12:00 AM
Really, now. Are you sure?<p>Cuz if my mom's CR-V ignites suddenly, I'll e-scream at you with an all-caps post. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Cozz
04-23-2005, 05:20 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>iHug Trees</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Really, now. Are you sure?<p>Cuz if my mom's CR-V ignites suddenly, I'll e-scream at you with an all-caps post. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>There was a recall on it along with a service cange over. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/images/smilies/sponge.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>It seems most of the issue was how to install the new oil filter. If it was installed incorrectly, it would leak oil onto the exhuast that's right underneath the filter thus causing a fire.

anonms
04-23-2005, 09:29 PM
There was a recall? I don't recall there being any recalls on CR-Vs....

Cozz
04-23-2005, 10:37 PM
Found this...<p>NHTSA Action Number : EA03018 NHTSA Recall Campaign Number : 03V423000 <br>Make : HONDA Model: CR-V <br>Manufacturer : AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO. Year : 2002 <br>Component : ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:IGNITION:SWITCH <br>Date Investigation Opened : September 9, 2003 <br>Date Investigation Closed : November 13, 2003 <br>Summary: <br> ALL BUT ONE ODI COMPLAINT AND ALL ODI CRASHES ARE DUPLICATIVE OF HONDA REPORTS. ALL 7 CRASHES WERE ROLL-AWAY CRASHES THAT OCCURRED WHEN THE INTERLOCK SYSTEM MALFUNCTIONED AND THE VEHICLES WERE PARKED UNSECURED (NOT IN PARK, BRAKE NOT ENGAGED). THE 3 NOTED INJURIES WERE RELATIVELY MINOR. THE WARRANTY CLAIMS SHOWN UNDER "OTHER" WERE CONFIRMED BY HONDA AS INTERLOCK SYSTEM FAILURES. IN THE SUBJECT VEHICLE IGNITION-PARK INTERLOCK SYSTEM, AN ELECTRICALLY DRIVEN SOLENOID OPERATES A BLOCKING LEVER TO PREVENT IGNITION KEY REMOVAL WHEN THE SHIFT LEVER IS NOT IN THE PARK POSITION. ACCORDING TO HONDA, AN IGNITION SWITCH MANUFACTURING OPERATION COULD OCCASIONALLY PRODUCE METAL DEBRIS. IN SOME CASES THE DEBRIS COULD FALL INTO THE AREA BETWEEN THE INTERLOCK LEVER AND THE BODY OF THE IGNITION SWITCH WHERE RELATIVE MOVEMENT OCCURS. DEBRIS TRAPPED IN THIS AREA CAN INCREASE FRICTION BETWEEN THE LEVER AND THE SWITCH BODY. IF THE DEBRIS IS OF SUFFICIENT SIZE, IT MAY SLOW THE RESPONSE OF THE LEVEL WHEN THE SOLENOID IS ENERGIZED. IN THIS SITUATION, IF THE TRANSMISSION IS NOT IN PARK AND THE IGNITION KEY IS ROTATED IN A CERTAIN MANNER THE INTERLOCK SYSTEM MAY FAIL TO PREVENT KEY REMOVAL, AS REQUIRED UNDER FMVSS 114. HONDA IMPLEMENTED MANUFACTURING CHANGES IN MARCH 2002 TO PREVENT DEBRIS FROM ENTERING THE IGNITION SWITCH ASSEMBLY. HONDA ALSO CHANGED END-OF-LINE INSPECTION PROCEDURES TO IMPROVE DETECTION OF DEBRIS. THE PRESENCE OF DEBRIS IN THE IGNITION SWITCH IS OTHERWISE UNAPPARENT TO THE OPERATOR OF THE VEHICLE. UNDER SAFETY RECALL 03V-422, HONDA WILL RECALL VEHICLES MANUFACTURED PRIOR TO MARCH 2002 TO TEST THE INTERLOCK SYSTEM FOR THE PRESENCE OF DEBRIS. VEHICLES THAT FAIL THE TEST WILL RECEIVE NEW IGNITION SWITCH ASSEMBLIES. <p><br>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------<p><br>NHTSA Action Number : EA04027 NHTSA Recall Campaign Number : N/A <br>Make : HONDA Model: CR-V <br>Manufacturer : AMERICAN HONDA MOTOR CO. Year : 2003 <br>Component : ENGINE AND ENGINE COOLING <br>Date Investigation Opened : September 9, 2004 <br>Date Investigation Closed : January 19, 2005 <br>Summary: <br> IN DOCUMENTS PROVIDED DURING EA04-027, <b>HONDA IDENTIFIED A MECHANISM WHICH CAUSES THE RUBBER SEAL (GASKET) OF THE ORIGINAL EQUIPMENT (OE) OIL FILTER TO ADHERE TO THE ENGINE BLOCK OF THE SUBJECT VEHICLES. IF AN ADHERED SEAL REMAINS WHEN THE OE FILTER IS REMOVED AND A NEW FILTER IS INSTALLED, A "DOUBLE GASKET" CONDITION RESULTS. A SUBSEQUENT RUPTURE OF THE EXTRANEOUS SEAL CAN RESULT IN OIL CONTACTING NEARBY EXHAUST SYSTEM SURFACES AND A FIRE MAY OCCUR. </b>THROUGHOUT ITS DISCUSSIONS WITH ODI, HONDA HAS MAINTAINED THAT IT IS THE SERVICING TECHNICIAN’S RESPONSIBILITY TO INSPECT FOR AND REMOVE THE SEAL PRIOR TO INSTALLING A NEW FILTER. ODI’S ANALYSIS FOUND THAT SEAL ADHESION, IN CONJUNCTION WITH TECHNICIAN ERROR AND EXHAUST COMPONENT LOCATION, RESULTED IN A HIGH RATE OF SUBJECT VEHICLE OIL FILTER FIRES COMPARED TO EARLIER MODELS AND PEERS. VEHICLES THAT HAVE NOT HAD THE OE FILTER DISTURBED ARE NOT AT RISK. SERVICE REPLACEMENT FILTER SEALS, WHICH ARE MANUFACTURED BY A DIFFERENT SUPPLIER, DO NOT EXHIBIT THE SEAL ADHESION CONDITION. THEREFORE, IF THE INITIAL OIL CHANGE IS DONE PROPERLY, THE ELEVATED FIRE RISK IS ELIMINATED FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE VEHICLE’S LIFE. BASED ON AVERAGE MILEAGE ACCUMULATION AND OIL SERVICE INTERVAL, ODI ESTIMATES THAT MORE THAN TWO THIRDS OF THE SUBJECT VEHICLES HAVE RECEIVED THEIR INITIAL OIL CHANGE AND ARE NO LONGER AT AN ELEVATED RISK. HONDA CHANGED THE DESIGN OF THE FILTER SEAL TO PREVENT THE ADHESION CONDITION AND INTRODUCED THE NEW SEAL AT BOTH CR-V ASSEMBLY PLANTS IN DECEMBER 2004. IN A DECEMBER 8, 2004 LETTER TO ODI, HONDA COMMITTED TO SEND A NOTIFICATION TO SUBJECT VEHICLE OWNERS ADVISING OF THE FIRE RISK IF AN OIL CHANGE IS IMPROPERLY PERFORMED. THE LETTER DISCUSSES MEASURES CONSUMERS CAN TAKE TO ENSURE THE FIRST OIL CHANGE IS DONE PROPERLY. LETTER MAILINGS COMMENCED ON DECEMBER 10, 2004. OWNERS WHO HAVE RECENTLY HAD THEIR FIRST OIL CHANGE PERFORMED AND ARE UNSURE IF IT WAS DONE CORRECTLY CAN HAVE IT INSPECTED BY A HONDA DEALER AT NO CHARGE; IF AN IMPROPER FILTER INSTALLATION IS DETECTED, A FREE REMEDY WILL BE PROVIDED BY THE DEALER. UNSOLD SUBJECT VEHICLES IN DEALER STOCK (~20,000 UNITS) WILL HAVE THE OE FILTER REPLACED WITH A SERVICE COMPONENT PRIOR TO RETAIL. THE INJURY NOTED ABOVE OCCURRED WHEN A CONSUMER SLIPPED ON OIL THAT LEAKED FROM THEIR VEHICLE. RECENT REPORT TRENDS INDICATE THAT HONDA’S EFFORTS TO IMPROVE OIL FILTER SERVICE PROFICIENCY AT THEIR DEALERSHIPS HAVE BEEN EFFECTIVE. SEE THE EA04-027 SUMMARY REPORT FOR FURTHER DETAILS ON THIS INVESTIGATION. <p><br>Looks like an NHTSA recall wasn't givan on the oil thing but I heard Honda did their own recall on it. They had to check other CRV's to make sure there wasn't a double gasket. I don't remember the source.<br>

anonms
04-23-2005, 11:52 PM
So a 2005 model probably won't be affected, right?

Cozz
04-24-2005, 05:55 AM
NO! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0">

anonms
04-24-2005, 01:57 PM
YOu don't have to be so mean! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/crying.gif" BORDER="0">

Cozz
04-24-2005, 02:20 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>iHug Trees</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">YOu don't have to be so mean! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/crying.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0">