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MontrealMustang
03-01-2005, 05:31 AM
As most of you know from previous posts, I'm no fan of modern technology for modern technology's sake. What's bugging me at the moment is how rim/wheels are growing in size, seemingly for no reason. 22 inch wheels? What's next 35 inches with a painted on rubber rim?<p>What I'm trying to say is that it's becoming ridiculous.<p>Heck, it's not even modern to have those size rims. the 1909 Ford Model T had 30 inch rims. Likewise, super high tech Formula 1 race cars have 15" rims. So the size of the wheel isn't THAT essential to good handling. Does it help? Of course, but it's one component of many.<p>Most older cars could probably do with 17" inchers. The oldest ones receiving the most gain from the taller rims due to having crappy suspensions. But the newer the car, the less this gain would be perceptible due to the car's lighter weight and better suspension. On a 1990 mustang like my car, they wouldn't add up to as much. You'd need to change the shocks and the struts and the springs and the bushings and more to see any major improvements. Of course, if you change all of that... you don't really need the 17 inchers anymore. Kind of a Catch 22 situation.<p>The big breakthrough in tire technology has nothing to do with size and everything to do with grip. Tires today offer incredible traction compared to yesteryear's rubber. <p>But anyway... my point, question, whatever... was "Where will this end?" and "Is this in any way useful for cars or just a way to sell more expensive tires?"<p>Whatcha all think?<br>

knicks125
03-01-2005, 07:09 AM
as long as the stars (mostly in the hip-hop community) continue to sport their 24s spinners, rims are going to get bigger and bigger.<p>so nothing is too big, to answer your question <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>j/k...but there are limits, unless they invent some other types of cars in the future years.

Reppu
03-01-2005, 07:22 AM
It's all aesthetics. In most cars you can pay for having bigger wheels (you see, you must PAY for them, they are treated like luxury equipment), even when they claim that the standard wheels can make it for having the best handling.

Santeno
03-01-2005, 08:33 AM
I like bigger wheels, but not giant over sized ones. IMO, most people who use that type of wheel/tire combination have zero need for them, seeing that they add nothing to the vehicle's performance and in some cases (as with SUV's) actually take away from the vehicle's performance.

Nick
03-01-2005, 11:50 AM
I don't mind them, but most people dont realize that when they get huge wheels, they should also upgrade their brakes...

Krypton
03-01-2005, 12:06 PM
I usually like big rims but when you get to 30's in a seden and the car looks like a monster truck then its too much, although it would be interesting to see 30's on a hummer <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0">

Santeno
03-01-2005, 12:54 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Krypton</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it would be interesting to see 30's on a hummer <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><br>If 20's are dubs, what do you call 30's? Trips?

RS
03-01-2005, 03:12 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Nick</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't mind them, but most people dont realize that when they get huge wheels, they should also upgrade their brakes...</TD></TR></TABLE><br>and upgrade speedometers so they don't get wrong information on what speed they're going. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Bigger rims and flatter tires lead to compromise in ride quality. I think there is an ideal rim size that fits in proportion to the size, shape or type of the vehicle...

Nick
03-01-2005, 03:38 PM
if you change the wheels yourself you obviously have to worry about wheel size/speedometer ratios...but if a company does it for you they usually change that for you I believe...but as a person who has done it himself I had to worry about it for a little while, then I got the hypertech programmer and one of its features adjusted the speedo accordingly..

anonms
03-01-2005, 04:42 PM
I hate big wheels. Stock, alloy wheels are fine for me. I trust that the manufacturer sells rims that are at optimal sizes for the vehicle and see no point in getting larger wheels.

MontrealMustang
03-01-2005, 05:10 PM
Personally, 18" is about the biggest I'd go. Beyond that it's disproportionate to the size of the vehicle and would ruin handling because of too little sidewall absorbing shocks.

Santeno
03-02-2005, 08:26 AM
What I find funny is that until very recently, while everyone was going crazy with ever growing wheel dimensions, one brand kept using average sized wheels with quite meaty tires. yes, that was BMW. I don't recall very many complainst about their performance with those tires. of course, now they to have increase the size of their wheels, but it begs the question, was the change necessary or did they just bow to sytlistic consumer demand?

Nick
03-03-2005, 12:50 AM
well, for a while now bimmers have had most of their rims (especially their BBS) in the 17-18 range...give or take an inch maybe...but if they are getting bigger it is just because of demand and nothing more really...

Top Secret
03-03-2005, 01:39 AM
It really depends on the car. The biggest I would go on a car would probably be 20" inch rims. But the most acceptable would be 18-19" inches.

Hornbag
03-04-2005, 12:48 AM
Im gona stick with 19 inch. We need not go any further, otherwise its just like painting a strip of rubber on the wheel. But i would prefer 17-18 inchers.

Nick
03-04-2005, 01:46 AM
you barely even see 19"'s anyways...for a car, 18 is good...nothing more is needed...if it seems a bigger rim is in need, then it is not the rim that needs to be changed, but the ride height...put a sport suspension on it which would drop it an inch or so and you're set...

AM2
03-04-2005, 03:26 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>MontrealMustang</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As most of you know from previous posts, I'm no fan of modern technology for modern technology's sake. What's bugging me at the moment is how rim/wheels are growing in size, seemingly for no reason. 22 inch wheels? What's next 35 inches with a painted on rubber rim?<p></TD></TR></TABLE><br>scared of big wheels, eh?<br>How big is too big? it depends on the car.<p>18 inch wheels look perfect for a large car like the a Chrysler 300C or a Jaguar XJ8, but super low profile tires with 18 in wheels would look overboard in a Compact car like a Corolla.<p>The right sizes for me depends on the car size....<br>Large sedan =18 in wheels<p>mid-size sedan = 17 in wheels<p>compact sedan/hatch = 16 in wheel<p>sub compact sedan/hatch = 15in wheels<p>*for sports models, add 1inch on lower profile tires.<p>At least in the near future we won't see 35in wheels for a car because that is even larger than the diameter of a large car's tires...<p><br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by AM2 at 6:39 PM 3/4/2005</i>

Nick
03-04-2005, 03:11 PM
last night I saw a 300c with 22'''s I believe...it actually filled out the wheel well quite nicely...but it was still a little overboard...

Santeno
03-04-2005, 03:15 PM
I say we all get wagon-wheels and put them on cars. if they don't fit inside the wheel well, then let them hang on the outside. big giant chromed wagon wheels.

Nick
03-04-2005, 04:13 PM
why can I see rappers actually sporting those?

Hornbag
03-04-2005, 04:15 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Nick</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you barely even see 19"'s anyways...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I dont know if that was directed at me, but if it was i have seen heaps, they r on the new FPV GT-P and many new HSV models...<p>If it wasnt...... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0">

Nick
03-04-2005, 04:32 PM
really? maybe it's moreso in other countries but I know in America you (or at;east I) don't see too many 19" rims...they tend to go 17" 18" 20" 22" 24" 26" etc...

Hornbag
03-04-2005, 05:29 PM
For real.<p>Fast Fords and Holdens have 17-18-19 inch, im not sure if HSV has a 20 inch, but i havnt seen one.<p>I have never seen a car with rim sizes over 19 inch...but i live in a hole of a town, and i only ever see big wheels when i go to the coast.

Top Secret
03-05-2005, 02:57 AM
The biggest wheels I have seen on a car was actually today when I saw a Porsche Cayenne Turbo with 22" inch Gemballa wheels.

Nick
03-05-2005, 04:32 AM
there is an H2 around town with 26's...they are huge, and they even say 26 on the hub...

mzoltarp
03-06-2005, 06:29 AM
I want to put 22 inch rims on a 2006 Kia Rio then lower it 3 inches, put a huge wing on back, a loud exhaust, and a 10,000 watt stereo. That would be the bomb ride, right?? hehe

AM2
03-06-2005, 09:06 AM
<IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0"> Thats funny.... 22in wheels and tires as thin as a fan belt....<p>Hmmm... if I had a stock 2006 Rio with 175/65R14 tires(23in diameter), i'd put 16in alloys with 205/45R16(est23.26in) tires. Guess that would look big enough.<p>

BMW rulez
03-06-2005, 04:31 PM
hmm I'd like a black hummer H2 with 24" spinners <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/eek2.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I started liking huge rims after watching 'pimp my ride' and 'unique whips' on tv.

Superfresa
03-08-2005, 03:19 PM
What count's IMO isn't really rim size, but the profile. However, the bigger the whole thing is, the better. So as long as there is a good profile size, rims will never be too big.

Nick
03-08-2005, 08:02 PM
Width is the most important part for a wheel...wider is better, the lower profile of the tire also makes a difference, unless of course you are drag racing...

fubar
03-10-2005, 10:56 AM
Personally, I'd only go +1 over the highest that the maunfacture offers. If the BMW 7-series offers 20's, I'll go 21. No more, since I would like to maintain the drive dynamics of the original car.

knicks125
03-10-2005, 10:59 AM
I agree...that's a good assessment <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Superfresa
03-10-2005, 02:24 PM
I'll just go standard<br>

BMW rulez
03-11-2005, 04:33 PM
<IMG SRC="http://ultaudio.com/images/uploads/9/1819-large_bmw760b.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Here's a 760Li with 22"

Flagship
03-11-2005, 05:50 PM
That's nothing look at this...<br><A HREF="http://img110.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img110&image=4582sq.png" TARGET="_blank">http://img110.exs.cx/my.php?lo...q.png</A>

BMW rulez
03-11-2005, 07:04 PM
<IMG SRC="http://img110.exs.cx/img110/4452/4582sq.png" BORDER="0"> <p><br>HOLY SH*T!!!!!!!! So damn HUGE!!!<p>Anyone have any idea as to how big it is???????

Nick
03-11-2005, 07:48 PM
40" ...says it on the window...

Hornbag
03-11-2005, 08:58 PM
OMG!

VexedandGlorious
03-12-2005, 10:27 AM
loook how thin that tire is, big wheels on the wrong car to me make them seem......naked,<br>i could go 18-22. big rims best stay on concept cars.

Krypton
03-12-2005, 11:09 AM
Those 40;s are chopped, i saw this pic somewhere else with the original, They were like 25-30's in the original one. Now onyl if i could remmember where i saw this

Hornbag
03-13-2005, 04:10 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>BMW rulzz</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><IMG SRC="http://ultaudio.com/images/uploads/9/1819-large_bmw760b.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Here's a 760Li with 22"</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Now that is HOT! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0">

Top Secret
03-13-2005, 04:44 AM
My opinion is that big rims are for show-offs. As in big rims I think 19"+, unless they are standard on a car. You don't need big rims, actually, they would certainly be worse off for your car. Just look at racecars; in particular the cars from the Japanese Time Attack vehicles - the standard rims are only 17".

Dal
03-13-2005, 07:26 AM
if ur sayin big rims are for show offs, what is the reason people put aftermarket rims on their car in the first place??

Top Secret
03-13-2005, 11:35 PM
Because they want a degree of individuality to go with their car.

Hornbag
03-14-2005, 06:03 AM
I'd prefer my car to be fully stock, nothing but Ford accessories, nothing but a FULL Ford.

Dal
03-21-2005, 05:32 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Top Secret</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Because they want a degree of individuality to go with their car.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>surely then people with huge wheels are also adding a "degree of individuality" <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0">

Top Secret
03-21-2005, 05:38 PM
Yes, you could say that. I just think they are also show-offs.