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syclone
01-03-2005, 09:39 AM
Number of Months I have been Living in Central London: 3<br>Number of Cityrover seen: 1<br>Number of Streetwise seen: 1<p>Other Cities Visited: Berlin, Amsterdam, Rome, Florence<br>Number of Cityrover seen: 0<br>Number of Streetwise seen: 1 (on the motorway)<p>Total Cityrover and Streetwise seen in European cities in 3+ months: 3<p>And the moral of the story is... I'm not really sure, that's why I made this post, to open it up to discussion. Rover is in deep trouble. I know that both of these vehicles are simple rebadges, so they didn't cost too much to develop. Still, with the amount of superminis on the roads here, I'd think that at least some people would buy these cars no matter how bad they are. Why do they seem to be avoided like the plague?<p>Is Rover's image really that shot? Even if the RD60 is great, can they actually make a comeback at this point?

pcread
01-03-2005, 09:46 AM
Can't say as I've seen one either. <p>Bt as to the RD60. if it is as good as it could/must be, then the brand can be saved. Look at where Skoda's name was before VW took it over.

taskbearer
01-03-2005, 05:24 PM
Skaodas case was very different, VW pumped alot of cash into the brand and replicated their german quality control in the czech factory. The brand also benefited from VWs extensive platform sharing and enigne portfolio.<p>Rover on the other hand has no such comforts. Their engine lineup is outdated and is just barely holding on. The company they're goimg into partnership with is infantile in the world automotive industry. Finally they get the much needed cash, they would have to work their asses out to clear up their fallen reputation. <p>The funny thing is the city rover made the tata indica more popular in india driving the car up the sales chart while its impact on rover was a negative one.

AM2
01-04-2005, 04:43 AM
CityRover... <br>There are just many better economy cars out there.... The new Kia Picanto beat it in a recent Autocar test.... so Rover is far behind with this dated Tata based CityRover.

Giannis
01-04-2005, 10:01 AM
there are plenty of 'em here in greece

syclone
01-04-2005, 05:21 PM
you guys get a lot of rovers in genral though, or just the cityrover?<p>edit - this could be a stretch, but is it perhaps cheaper in greece, because it doesn't need to be shipped as far?

Giannis
01-05-2005, 02:03 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>syclone</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you guys get a lot of rovers in genral though, or just the cityrover?<p>edit - this could be a stretch, but is it perhaps cheaper in greece, because it doesn't need to be shipped as far?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>1). Listen, all the cars that are ordered from Greece come by see either at the port of Pireus (the biggest of the city and close to our capital city) or at the port of Patra (the second/third one -i don't know-), where i live. Most brands use the first one, such as Volvo, Audi (i think), Opel, etc. Only BMW and Mercedes us Patra to bring the cars here.<p>2). There are no stretches here in greece.<p>3). Nothing is cheap here in comparison to other countries. here the 33.7% of what you pay for your car goes to the state(right word?). For example: the 318i here costs 35800euros while in Germany costs around 25500.<p>4.) i saw some 75s some 45s but there are many Streetwises/streetrovers here, as well as lot of advertisment. -but not as much as bmws/mbs<p>5.) i bought a car 2.5 months ago (2005 Volvo S60 <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> ) and it was shipped to pireus from Ge(h)nt somewhere around Belgium and then by trucks came in my city. i had to wait 3 months to get it... but i really liked it<p>if there were not these taxes i would have go for a 320Ci <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bowdown.gif" BORDER="0"> or a 316 individual <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bowdown.gif" BORDER="0"> . but life if hard and difficult to predict...<p>edit: if you didn't know it, diesel cars are banned from the 2 biggest cities of Greece and Thessaloniki for many many years. only taxes are allowed <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0">