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Skyliner35128
12-27-2004, 10:51 PM
just wonderin wha u gyz think <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/driver.gif" BORDER="0">

knicks125
12-28-2004, 07:27 AM
Not a big fan of minivans, but from the list, I like the Quest the best.

Santeno
12-28-2004, 09:08 AM
DCX for Me. No other brand has the sheer variety of models and corresponding options. They have a long history of innovation., Plus I love the fully retractable seats all over the rear.<p><b>BTW, you forgot to include Minivans from GM, Mazda, VW, Ford & Kia.</b>

jro4566
12-28-2004, 09:44 AM
From that list, and from the segment, I'd take an Odyssey. Class-leading fuel economy, class-leading power, class-leading interior room yet smaller than some minivans, safety features on par with the Sienna and Quest (so yes, class-leading). Plus, it doesn't look ugly...just bland.

BMW rulez
12-28-2004, 03:20 PM
Not really a fan of minivans but Nissan Quest for me.

Player4
12-28-2004, 03:47 PM
Odyssey hands down, its just the best period. Im surprised no one has voted for the Toyota Sienna.

RENCO
12-28-2004, 07:16 PM
Sienna, ugly but only one with awd.

Top Secret
12-28-2004, 09:14 PM
I reckon the American version of the Odyssey is horrible; I'd much rather prefer the JDM and Pacific version of the Odyssey:<p><IMG SRC="http://www.prelude-fan.de/pics/odyjp_g2_12.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br><IMG SRC="http://www.prelude-fan.de/pics/odyjp_g2_11.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p>And amazingly, it has the roofline height of just a normal car, but it has the same headroom as the previous one! Awesome or what?!

jro4566
12-28-2004, 10:15 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Top Secret</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I reckon the American version of the Odyssey is horrible; I'd much rather prefer the JDM and Pacific version of the Odyssey:<p><IMG SRC="http://www.prelude-fan.de/pics/odyjp_g2_12.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br><IMG SRC="http://www.prelude-fan.de/pics/odyjp_g2_11.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p>And amazingly, it has the roofline height of just a normal car, but it has the same headroom as the previous one! Awesome or what?!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yes, but that is still too small for the American minivan segment...that's why the original U.S. Odyssey didn't sell well here.

Top Secret
12-29-2004, 12:11 AM
Don't be serious? How big do Americans want their cars? I mean, it has seven seats, how much do you really need?

JBlair
12-29-2004, 02:23 AM
Uhm, well, there's seven seats crammed into too small of a box (witness that odyssey), and then there's seven seats put in a box that is actually a bit larger than it needs to be (US odyssey)

Santeno
12-29-2004, 08:58 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Top Secret</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't be serious? How big do Americans want their cars? I mean, it has seven seats, how much do you really need?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Don't forget that space is a relative thing. American as a whole don't have the same space and expense restrictions as in most industrialized nations. As J Blair pointed out, there is a difference between having a bunch of seats and having usable space. Since americans are able to afford (both monetarily and in road space) the extra usable space, they have a tendency to choose that. BTW, this trend is not limited to minivans. It's pretty much true of almost every car segment.

jro4566
12-29-2004, 04:47 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Top Secret</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't be serious? How big do Americans want their cars? I mean, it has seven seats, how much do you really need?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The other guys are right. While the Pacific Odyssey is nice, there isn't much room to stretch out, and since Americans love to take roadtrips all over the country you'll have a lot of complaining passengers who want to take a rest stop to strectch every hour. The U.S. Odyssey is exactly opposite with more storage space and more hiproom, shoulder room, legroom, and headroom.

Hornbag
12-29-2004, 05:57 PM
Mazda 5, just cos it has the looks baby!

Verdegrrl
12-30-2004, 05:42 PM
The Nissan Quest or the smaller luxurious Renault Avantime<p> <IMG SRC="http://didboss.free.fr/Renault/Avantime/original/avantime9.jpg" BORDER="0"><p> <IMG SRC="http://didboss.free.fr/Renault/Avantime/original/renault29g.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p>Or maybe the sporty shift-it-yourself VW Sharan<p> <IMG SRC="http://www.abt-sportsline.de/images/flash/tuning/vw/sharan.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p>or for everyday manouverability, the Mazda MPV<p> <IMG SRC="http://www.mazdacar.ru/Autosalon/2004/01_tokyo/tokyo04.jpg" BORDER="0">

jro4566
12-30-2004, 06:19 PM
I thought this you're supposed to choose from this list given?

Verdegrrl
12-30-2004, 11:21 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jro4566</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I thought this you're supposed to choose from this list given?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Bah! Rules are made to be broken! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I think we North Americans get some of the more boring and least sporty vans. Not sure I could live with the domestic offerings - except maybe the Mazda - with some suspension mods.<p>How about the sexy little Seat Altea? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Too tall to be a hatch, too small to be a real van. Just my speed!<p> <p> <IMG SRC="http://www.arpem.com/coches/coches/seat/z_gif_mini/seat_altea.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p>

Santeno
12-31-2004, 08:43 AM
The altea and the avantime are not minivans. They are at best tall hatch backs (a big, tall, luxurious, funky-styled hatchback in the case of the avantime).

Verdegrrl
12-31-2004, 11:33 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Santeno</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The altea and the avantime are not minivans. They are at best tall hatch backs (a big, tall, luxurious, funky-styled hatchback in the case of the avantime).</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well I would use them like a minivan, hauling people and large goods, and not a hatch (which means sporty driving to me).<p>What defines the difference between minvan and tall hatch? Size? Dorkiness? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> The layout is the same in pretty much all. Just like crossovers in the SUV world, I think of the Avantime and Altea as walking in both worlds. IMHO that would make minivan ownership a tad less painful <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

whipster
12-31-2004, 11:35 AM
altea, but from the list - mazda 5

LoneWolf
12-31-2004, 07:42 PM
While I'm certainly not a huge fan of minivans, the upcoming Pontiac Montana SV6 has got to be the best-looking minivan on the (U.S.) market.

VarianceJ30
12-31-2004, 08:54 PM
IMO, the Nissan Quest is America's first minivan that doesn't look totally bland and boring. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

Ranger19984x4
01-01-2005, 08:33 AM
If any of you remember in 1995, Ford had a van concept called the "SHOstar" - it was basically a Windstar with some Taurus SHO in it. It had a wild lime green paint scheme, the 3.0 Yamaha engine found in the Taurus SHO and a stick!!!!

knicks125
01-01-2005, 09:10 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Infiniti Z350</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">IMO, the Nissan Quest is America's first minivan that doesn't look totally bland and boring. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p><br>Agreed, I voted for the quest when this poll first started <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

SV
01-01-2005, 09:33 AM
in the american market, the sienna's my favorite, tied with the odyssey. you can't go wrong with either. in the european market, my favorite goes to the renault espace. i like the looks, nice interior, and it can come with the same 3.5-liter V6 in the nissan altima <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icon11.gif" BORDER="0">

Verdegrrl
01-01-2005, 04:32 PM
Here is some minivan research I did for a friend, using the edmunds TCO (True Cost to Own) data:<p>A Mazda MPV will cost around $0.53 per mile and $39,400 over 5 years (fuel, insurance, maintenance, depreciation, etc). The advantage is that it is small and compact enough to enjoy using it every day. Handling is good for a van, and power has been increased consistantly over several years, to address complaints about not enough power. However, it is limited to 5 passengers, despite more luggage capacity.<p>A Toyota Sienna will cost $0.52 and $38,900 over the same period. Solid resale, but surprisingly expensive to own.<p>The Honda Odyssey costs $36,700 over 5 years, and $0.49 per mile. Beware of ongoing recalls with the V6 engine an automatic transmission. Honda has recalled over 4.5 million cars thus far, with that drivetrain (Honda and Acura vehicles).<p>While the Nissan Quest (the new swoopy one) would cost $40,800 and $0.54 per mile. Sales have been slow, and so dealers are dealing.<p>A 220hp 2003 (last year offered) VW Eurovan MV Weekender (MV very desirable - comes with pop top, fold up table, and power cooler under one of the seats, but is not really a camper) will cost $38,000 and $0.51 for 5 years. Probably the most roomy of all the vans.<p>________________________<p>Contrast this with recent model German luxury cars:<p>A 2001 BMW 530 costs $0.59 per mile with a total of $44,175<p>A 2001 2.7t Audi A6 costs $0.56 per mile and a total of $41,661 over 5 years.<p>A Mercedes E320 will cost $0.56 per mile, and $41,700 for 5 years.<p>A Volvo S80 2.9 would cost $0.45 cents per mile, with an overall cost of $33,700. <p>________________________________<p>And regular new (2004 data, as not enough '05 data) mid-sized sedans:<p>The Mazda 6 hatch sedan will cost $0.50 per mile, and a total outlay of $37,700.<p>The bland and boring Toyota Camry V6 costs $36,700 to own over 5 years (before adding leather and goodies), and $0.49 per mile to operate. <p>The equally snoozy basic V6 EX Honda Accord will set you back $34,700, and cost $0.46 per mile over 5 years. Same trans problems may arise as in the van - buy stick only.<p>A 2004 VW GLX (leather, climate control, Monsoon stereo, seat heaters, etc) V6 Passat with FWD and automatic (it bridges the gap between the BMW/Audi/Mercedes luxury cars, and the ordinary cars like the Camry and Accord) will cost $40,900 for 5 years, and $0.55 per mile.<p>_______________________<p>In any case, it's interesting to see that the standards of reliability (Honda and Toyota), aren't appreciably cheaper to operate over 5 years, than some of the more interesting competition. What they bring to the table is predicability (for the most part). <p>

Hornbag
01-01-2005, 06:18 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Verdegrrl</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The bland and boring Toyota Camry</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I agree with you there dude. Interesting specs you have there, do they still sell the Mazda MPV? It would be getting old now wouldnt it? I havnt seen one in ages her in Australia.

Verdegrrl
01-02-2005, 01:03 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hornbag_1</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I agree with you there dude. Interesting specs you have there, do they still sell the Mazda MPV? It would be getting old now wouldnt it? I havnt seen one in ages her in Australia.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>North America gets the FWD MPV. Are you perhaps thinking of the old RWD or AWD MPV? That has a small but loyal following here too.<p>As for Toyotas, I'm not sure why, but the drivers seem to have the poorest driving habits. Driving slowly for no reason, changing lanes with no blinkers, hesitant manouvers, etc. Obviously that isn't the case for everyone, but we find it holds true for the majority. Hubby and I say that all Toyota drivers are part of the ADL - Anti-Destination-League <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"><p>The funny thing is that I've owned several Toyotas in the past, but can't imagine owning any of the current offerings <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emdgust.gif" BORDER="0">

LEXUS FAN!
01-05-2005, 10:05 PM
sienna is best in everything...i don't like the design of the new oddyssey, it has too much kia sedona

Naga Royal Guard
01-06-2005, 09:33 PM
TVR Tuscan ..... is a minivan?

Santeno
01-07-2005, 09:50 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Naga Royal Guard</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">TVR Tuscan ..... is a minivan?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>BLASPHEMER!!!<p>How there you! Bad Naga, Bad Naga...

Naga Royal Guard
01-07-2005, 09:54 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Santeno</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BLASPHEMER!!!<p>How there you! Bad Naga, Bad Naga...</TD></TR></TABLE><p><br>it wasnt me, i can care less about TVR <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0">

Krypton
01-07-2005, 02:33 PM
can the administartors see who added a chioce

taskbearer
01-08-2005, 03:07 AM
How come there's no Renault Espace, The Rangerover of minivans.<br> <IMG SRC="http://www.eesti-renault.ee/gfx/galerii/espace4.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://www.eesti-renault.ee/gfx/galerii/espace5.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://www.eesti-renault.ee/gfx/galerii/espace3.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br><IMG SRC="http://www.cardesignnews.com/autoshows/2002/geneva/preview/renault-espace/images/renault-espace236.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br>source: renault website<p>This one gets my vote.

Top Secret
01-08-2005, 05:44 AM
Maybe because they are just talking about the American market, where the Espace isn't sold?

taskbearer
01-09-2005, 01:09 AM
Then maybe someone should open a poll for the european minivans.