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Fcuke
03-28-2005, 11:57 AM
The Show will be from 13 September till 25 September<p>Here's a list of the cars that are to be shown. Many rumours, but also many confirmed.<br>2006 Alfa-Romeo Spider<br>2006 Alfa Romeo 159 - <i> Confirmed </i><br>2007 Alfa Romeo Brera Spider - <i> Confirmed </i><br>2006 Audi S6/RS6<br>2006 Audi A4/S4 Cabrio<br>2006 Audi RS4 Avant<br>2007 Audi Q7 - <i> Confirmed </i><br>0000 Audi Q5 Concept<p>0000 BMW RFK<br>2006 BMW M6 Cabrio<br>2006 BMW M5 Touring<br>2007 BMW X5<br>2006 BMW M3<br>2006 BMW 3-series M-sport<br>0000 BMW X3 Hybrid<br>2006 BMW Z4 Coup<br>2006 BMW Z4 M<br>2005 BMW 130i<br>2005 BMW 1-series M-sport<br>0000 BMW 7-series H<p>0000 Citroen C-SportLounge Concept - <i> Confirmed </i><p>2006 Daimler Super Eight - <i> COnfirmed </i><p>2006 Fiat Grande Punto - <i> Confirmed </i><br>2006 FIAT Punto<br>0000 Fisker Tramonto - <i> Confirmed </i><br>2007 Ford D-Max (SAV)<br>0000 Ford LPV Concept (Galaxy)<br>2007 Ford Focus CC<p>2006 Geely CD<br>2006 Geely Mei Ren Bao<br>2006 Geely ??? x 3<p>2006 Honda Civic Hatchback<br>2006 Hyundai Getz/Click - <i>Confirmed</i><br>2006/7 Hyundai Santa-Fe<br>2006/7 Hyundai Entourage<p>2006 Jaguar XK - <i> Confirmed </i><br>2007 Jeep Patriot Prototype - <i> Confirmed </i><br>2007 Jeep Compass Rallye Prototype - <i> Confirmed </i><br>2006 Jeep Commander - <i> Confirmed </i><p>2006 Kia Magnetis - <i> Confirmed </i><p>2006 Lamborghini Gallardo Cabrio(Spyder) - <i> Comfirmed </i><br>2006/7 Lamborghini Gallardo Facelift<br>2006/7 Lamborghini Murcielago Facelift<br>2007 Land Rover Freelander<p>2005 MB S-Class - <i> Confirmed </i><br>2006/7 MB S600/S63<br>2006/7 MB R63 AMG<br>2006/7 MB ML63 AMG - <i> Confirmed </i><p>0000 Mitsubishi Compact Hatchback Concept - <i> Confirmed </i><br>2006 Maserati Quattroporte Executive GT - <i> Confirmed </i><br>2006 Maserati Quattroporte Sport GT - <i> Confirmed </i><p>2007 Nissan NOTE - <i> Confirmed </i><br>2006 Nissan Micra C+C - <i> Confirmed </i><br>2006 Nissan Micra 160SR - <i> Confirmed </i><p>2006 Porsche Cayman S - <i> Confirmed </i><br>0000 Porsche Panamera Concept - <i> Confirmed </i><br>2006 Peugot 407 Coup - <i> Confirmed </i><p>0000 Renault Egeus Concept - <i> Confirmed </i><br>0000 Renault Clio Renaultsport Concept - <i> Confirmed </i><p>2006 koda Octavia RS - <i> Confirmed </i><br>2006 Subaru Impreza WRC - <i> Confirmed </i><br>2006 Suzuki Grand Vitara - <i> COnfirmed </i><br>2006 Ssangyong Kyron - <i> COnfirmed </i><p>2006 VW Golf Cabrio<br>2006 VW Golf R32 - <i> COnfirmed </i><br>2006 Volvo V30<br>2006 Volvo C70 - <i> Confirmed </i><br>2007 Vauxhall Astra TwinTop - <i> Confirmed </i><br>2006 Vauxhall Vectra VXR - <i> Confirmed </i><p><br>Number of Cars: <b>71</b><p>Number of confirmations: <b>35</b><p>Rumour percentage: 51%<p>Please post links to sources, so they can be confirmed. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Fcuke at 11:49 AM 8/18/2005</i>

iakovos
03-28-2005, 02:24 PM
Dates are from 13 Sep - 25 Sep..<p>Some world Premieres include<p>FIAT Punto <br>Alfa-Romeo Spider (Brera based)

bm88
03-29-2005, 06:00 AM
<b>2006 S Class!</b>

Dan J.
03-30-2005, 10:50 AM
Wonder where the 06 civic sedan will debut, Frankfort or Tokyo?

Adrokvs
03-30-2005, 12:43 PM
Ford D-Max (SAV)<br>Ford LPV Concept (Galaxy)<br>Ford Focus CC

The Water Is Poison
03-30-2005, 04:53 PM
Audi Q7?

Fcuke
04-02-2005, 03:37 AM
The Porsche Cayman?

Top Secret
04-02-2005, 05:14 AM
The Cayman is expected to make it's world debut at Frankfurt, and also the concept version of the Panamera. <p>BMW will probably show either a concept, or final version of it's RFK, along with the M6 Cabrio and M5 Touring.<p>

pcread
04-02-2005, 07:00 AM
2006 Jaguar XK

Fcuke
04-02-2005, 07:08 AM
Thanks. do you have any souces fro this?

bm88
04-03-2005, 02:26 PM
Theres also still that rumour that BMW is gonna make a concept of an MPV. <p>This could well be at Frankfurt...

Fcuke
04-03-2005, 02:28 PM
That is the RFK <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Maybe the X6/X4 will be there?

LEXUS FAN!
04-16-2005, 11:18 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Fcuke</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That is the RFK <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Maybe the X6/X4 will be there?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I highly doubt it because there has not been much news or spy shots on it.

Nurburgring
04-22-2005, 03:19 PM
production ver. of euro-civic will be debuting there.

bm88
05-06-2005, 10:55 AM
Not really major news...but a 1/18 scale replica of the Rolls Royce Phantom is expected to be available at Frankfurt.

against the wall
05-06-2005, 01:42 PM
is the g-class debuting here also?<br>and maybe a production caliber

bm88
05-07-2005, 03:31 AM
I think the new G is going to get a US launch.<p>Something interesting...<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>scott26 @ GCF</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A preview of the new small car is expected to be seen in September at the IAA Frankfurt. This will show the intention of the expansion of the Rolls-Royce marque. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>scott26 is a highly respected BMW source, so this could be interesting!

T.B.
05-07-2005, 03:47 AM
RR could show a concept car of a smaller-than-Phantom sedan - a new generation Silver Shadow.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>scott26</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Rolls-Royce is an icon and it is not a volume car. Because we are only selling small quantities, people deem the company to be unsuccessful. When production begins on additional models including a smaller Silver Shadow type car - a smaller Rolls-Royce is to sit below the Phantom - RR sales will expand. <B>A a preview of the new small car is expected to be seen in September at the IAA Frankfurt. </B>This will show the intention of the expansion of the Rolls-Royce marque. <br></TD></TR></TABLE><p><A HREF="http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=14750&page=2" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carspyshots.net/zer...age=2</A><p>BMW is to show <B>3er touring </B>as well at IAA 2005. We can also witness the debut of <B>540i / 550i and 640i / 650i</B>. And appearence of <B>Z4 M</B> is not far away ...<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Tine at 1:03 PM 5/7/2005</i>

nismo
05-07-2005, 05:55 PM
2006 SAAB 9-5 facelift<br>2006 Kia Optima/Magentis (?)

OA4E
05-13-2005, 06:43 AM
Oh my god, I think it will be a long tour - A4 Cabrio - Q7 - Gallardo Spider - Veyron - Cayman - S-Class <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0"> Ok, Audi, Volkswagen and Lamborghini will have the same hall.

erzhik
05-20-2005, 11:51 AM
Q7 <br>Caymann<br>VW cabrio<br>VW R32<br>S6<br>Honda Civic<br>maybe new X5?<br>M3<br>

AU297
05-27-2005, 05:02 PM
So I just got word from my source that Audi will be showing the following:<br>Production<br>-Q7 <br>-B7 A4/S4 Cabriolet <br>-RS4 Avant<br>Concept<br>-Hmmm let's just say it'll be exciting!!! and the production version will be 2007 MY. (Hint... I own the Mk1 version of it!)<br> <IMG SRC="http://images6.fotki.com/v161/photos/2/229737/2053856/DSC00015-vi.jpg" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by AU297 at 1:43 AM 5/28/2005</i>

LEXUS FAN!
05-27-2005, 07:14 PM
Don't forget the....<p>Audi TT

AU297
05-27-2005, 09:22 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>LEXUS FAN!</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't forget the....<p>Audi TT</TD></TR></TABLE><p>yah think <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

LEXUS FAN!
05-27-2005, 09:37 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>AU297</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>yah think <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>what's the sarcasm for? :)

AU297
05-27-2005, 10:40 PM
Did you read my post?

LEXUS FAN!
05-28-2005, 07:21 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>AU297</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Did you read my post?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>yah...you didn't say anything about TT<p>unless by MK1 is another model name for TT???

AU297
05-29-2005, 08:36 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>LEXUS FAN!</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>yah...you didn't say anything about TT<p>unless by MK1 is another model name for TT???</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Clueless... MK1 = 1st version... plus the picture I posted was a Audi TT <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0">

Cozz
06-03-2005, 07:04 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>AU297</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Clueless... MK1 = 1st version... plus the picture I posted was a Audi TT <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Clueless? How about people that buy the damn over priced Beetle doesn't even know what MK1 is.

Naga Royal Guard
06-03-2005, 07:17 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>LEXUS FAN!</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yah...you didn't say anything about TT<p>unless by MK1 is another model name for TT???</TD></TR></TABLE><p>good god do you have to take every thing so literally

AU297
06-06-2005, 12:40 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Cozz</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Clueless? How about people that buy the damn over priced Beetle doesn't even know what MK1 is.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>If you think simply because the TT is on the same platform as a Beetle it's the same car... you too are clueless!!! You obviously don't know anything about the differences from the two cars. Just because they share platforms doesn't make them the same car. Heck do you know how many cars share platforms? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0">

knicks125
06-06-2005, 04:43 PM
Don't mean to intrude in the debate, but I am not too big on the TT, as I am never too thrilled when my friend takes me to places with his TT; on the other hand, I am surprisingly happy the the Crossfire...<p>Alright...back to the debate...sorry for the interruption <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by knicks125 at 7:50 PM 6/6/2005</i>

Cozz
06-06-2005, 06:12 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>AU297</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>If you think simply because the TT is on the same platform as a Beetle it's the same car... you too are clueless!!! You obviously don't know anything about the differences from the two cars. Just because they share platforms doesn't make them the same car. Heck do you know how many cars share platforms? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Don't change the subject. And it is the same car. It shares all of the same components behind the dash, hood and door panels. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/embeer.gif" BORDER="0">

Naga Royal Guard
06-06-2005, 06:25 PM
and they both look awful while looking totally different - so they must be the same!

RikfromBelgium
07-14-2005, 05:15 AM
Audi TT is a beatiful car, although I have to say your post was a bit confusing.

carspynut
07-15-2005, 01:43 AM
I'll throw my $0.02 in and say the TT is attractive but really long in the tooth. The interior was a great design, and the exterior is quite unique and minimalistic (except for that wing that was necessary to avoid accidents). But a replacement is needed, STAT! And they should look for the Nuvolari concept and, moreso, the RSR(?) for inspiration beacuse while it was attractive and influential for its time, it's time for a change.<p>Also, learn from the RS4 and give this and all fture Audi cars a rear-wheel bias Quattro.<p>Will the S63 and S600 also beintroduced, or is MB going to do the usual delay in order to keep the S interesting?

iamalittlepepper
07-17-2005, 09:32 PM
Volvo V30?

RikfromBelgium
07-23-2005, 12:52 PM
According to AMS the BMW Z4 coup will be there

RikfromBelgium
07-25-2005, 02:10 AM
forgot, and some sort of hybrid -hydrogen version of the X3 ( and naturally the 7 series )

Miyka'el
07-28-2005, 04:10 PM
The home market, Korean-built Hyundai Santa Fe (CM) will go on sale this October. A Frankfurt introduction seems highly likely, though the Entourage minivan may win this one... perhaps both will show. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Mike

knicks125
07-30-2005, 12:49 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Miykael</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The home market, Korean-built Hyundai Santa Fe (CM) will go on sale this October. A Frankfurt introduction seems highly likely, though the Entourage minivan may win this one... perhaps both will show. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Mike</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I have a feeling one will be shown in Frankfurt, and the other one in Paris <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Miyka'el
07-30-2005, 08:35 PM
Yep, and the US-built SaFe in Detroit... not that it will be much different or anything.<p><I>Fcuke</I>, you can add the Hyundai Getz/Click to that list of yours -- Hyundai has given confirmation on that vehicle.<p>Source: <A HREF="http://worldwide.hyundai-motor.com/common/html/about/news_event/press_read_2005_17.html" TARGET="_blank">http://worldwide.hyundai-motor....html</A><p>Mike

iamalittlepepper
08-01-2005, 02:39 AM
Well in that case, they need a reengineering to stuff the transfer box further behind the engine and let the engine move a bit more towards teh backline. I have to say this "flexible" component scheme better give Audi some better dynamics and weight distribution soon.. horsepower war + quattro can't go on forever.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>carspynut</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'll throw my $0.02 in and say the TT is attractive but really long in the tooth. The interior was a great design, and the exterior is quite unique and minimalistic (except for that wing that was necessary to avoid accidents). But a replacement is needed, STAT! And they should look for the Nuvolari concept and, moreso, the RSR(?) for inspiration beacuse while it was attractive and influential for its time, it's time for a change.<p>Also, learn from the RS4 and give this and all fture Audi cars a rear-wheel bias Quattro.<p>Will the S63 and S600 also beintroduced, or is MB going to do the usual delay in order to keep the S interesting?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Fcuke
08-01-2005, 04:47 PM
Thanks guys. First post edited.<p>Rik: Did you mean a hybrid of the 7-series as well, or just the new one?<p>Please post links of confirmations from the Car-companies, so that we won't be dissapointed when we get there. :D

knicks125
08-01-2005, 07:10 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Fcuke</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks guys. First post edited.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Not a big deal but just wanted to point out the Hyundai Santa Fe & Entourage both will be MY 06/07. 2006 most likely for its home market and 07 MY elsewhere <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

iamalittlepepper
08-02-2005, 01:42 AM
Hi Fcuke<p>You might want to remove the C30.. I just double checked Volvo's website as you requested and their date is 1st of October which is after the Frankfurt show.. <p><A HREF="http://www.volvocars.com/_Tier2/NewsEvents/News" TARGET="_blank">http://www.volvocars.com/_Tier2/NewsEvents/News</A>/

milu
08-02-2005, 09:46 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>iamalittlepepper</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hi Fcuke<p>You might want to remove the C30.. I just double checked Volvo's website as you requested and their date is 1st of October which is after the Frankfurt show.. <p><A HREF="http://www.volvocars.com/_Tier2/NewsEvents/News" TARGET="_blank">http://www.volvocars.com/_Tier2/NewsEvents/News</A>/</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The date says January 10th. Check the third entry.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Santeno at 1:31 PM 8/2/2005</i>

Santeno
08-02-2005, 02:15 PM
It seems Geely (yes from china) will be making an appearance at the show with no less than 5 models. Check out this article and make sure to follow the link at the end of it for more pics:<p><A HREF="http://www.autowonder.com/?p=47" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autowonder.com/?p=47</A>

Miyka'el
08-02-2005, 03:47 PM
Yep...<p>Korean market: 2001-05 Santa Fe = SM, 2006 Santa Fe = CM, 2006/7 "Entourage"<p>Other markets: 2001-06 Santa Fe = SM, 2007 Santa Fe = CM, 2007 Entourage<p>Mike

Fcuke
08-04-2005, 06:25 PM
Thanks for editing and thanks for that Chineese car :P<p>Do you ahve the names for the 3 others?

iamalittlepepper
08-05-2005, 10:18 AM
from here <A HREF="http://auto.sina.com.cn/news/2005-07-28/1135130715.shtml" TARGET="_blank">http://auto.sina.com.cn/news/2...shtml</A><p>HQ、CD、CK、FC and 海域303H (Ocean 303H)Marindo<p>HQ is called 豪情203A (passionate 203A)<br>CD Means Chinese Dragon<br>CK Means Freedom (after the first chinese space vehicle)<p><br>FC and Marindo are mid class.. apparently CK is the top of the class for what it is worth.. CK looks like a rip of the M35<p>Who the heck came up with names like this?!<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Santeno</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It seems Geely (yes from china) will be making an appearance at the show with no less than 5 models. Check out this article and make sure to follow the link at the end of it for more pics:<p><A HREF="http://www.autowonder.com/?p=47" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autowonder.com/?p=47</A></TD></TR></TABLE>

Monkey
08-08-2005, 11:39 AM
Not to be giving redundant info, but it was said that DCX will show the Jeep concepts at this show.

RikfromBelgium
08-08-2005, 11:40 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Fcuke</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks guys. First post edited.<p>Rik: Did you mean a hybrid of the 7-series as well, or just the new one?<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p> some kind of hybrid of the X3 and a hydrogen version of the 7 series. Like the 745h that has been shown on several shows.

Miyka'el
08-09-2005, 11:18 PM
<B>Mitsubishi</B> will release its <B>Concept-Sportback</B>.<br>Confirmation: <A HREF="http://car-reviews.automobile.com/news/mitsubishi-to-debut-compact-hatchback-concept-at-frankfurt-auto-show/1319/" TARGET="_blank">http://car-reviews.automobile....1319/</A><p>Mike

Miyka'el
08-09-2005, 11:21 PM
<B>Citroen SportLounge</B> concept: <A HREF="http://www.gizmag.com/go/4401/" TARGET="_blank">http://www.gizmag.com/go/4401/</A><p>Mike

Miyka'el
08-09-2005, 11:26 PM
<B>Peugeot 407 Coupe</B>: <A HREF="http://carsguide.news.com.au/news/story_page/0,8269,16148650%255E21822,00.html?from=rhn" TARGET="_blank">http://carsguide.news.com.au/n...m=rhn</A><p>Mike

Miyka'el
08-09-2005, 11:30 PM
Pre-production prototypes of the <B>'07 Jeep Patriot</B> and <B>'07 Jeep Compass</B> SUVs. <A HREF="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000101&sid=afM_Tx18wKCQ&refer=japan" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/...japan</A><p>Mike

Miyka'el
08-09-2005, 11:39 PM
Two new versions of the <B>Maserati Quattroporte</B>: <I>Executive GT</I> & <I>Sport GT</I> : <A HREF="http://carpoint.ninemsn.com.au/portal/alias__carpointau/tabID__6491/ArticleID__7501/DesktopDefault.aspx" TARGET="_blank">http://carpoint.ninemsn.com.au....aspx</A><p>Mike

Miyka'el
08-09-2005, 11:42 PM
<B>Vauxhall Astra TwinTop</B>: <A HREF="http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/58861/astra_finally_opened_for_business.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/n....html</A><p>Mike

Miyka'el
08-09-2005, 11:47 PM
<B>koda Octavia RS</B>: <A HREF="http://www.autospectator.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1649" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autospectator.com/m...=1649</A><p>Mike

Miyka'el
08-09-2005, 11:51 PM
<B>2007 Volvo C70</B>: <A HREF="http://www.autospectator.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1630" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autospectator.com/m...=1630</A><p>Mike

Miyka'el
08-09-2005, 11:58 PM
<B>Fiat Grande Punto</B> (not to be confused with the regular Punto): <A HREF="http://www.wheels24.co.za/Wheels24/News/0,,1369-1372_1745114,00.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.wheels24.co.za/Whee....html</A><p>Mike

Miyka'el
08-10-2005, 12:01 AM
<B>2006 Alfa Romeo 159</B>: <A HREF="http://www.autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=102780" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoweek.com/articl...2780 </A><p>Mike

Miyka'el
08-10-2005, 12:05 AM
<B>Lamborghini Gallardo Roadster</B> (possibly called "<B>Spyder</B>"): <A HREF="http://www.autospectator.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1599" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autospectator.com/m...=1599</A><p>Mike<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Miyka'el at 12:15 AM 8/10/2005</i>

Miyka'el
08-10-2005, 12:08 AM
Rumor - <B>Audi Q5 </B>concept: <A HREF="http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=106540" TARGET="_blank">http://www.edmunds.com/insidel...06540</A><p>Mike

Miyka'el
08-10-2005, 12:11 AM
<B>Jaguar XJR</B>: <A HREF="http://www.detnews.com/2005/insiders/0507/12/C01-244532.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://www.detnews.com/2005/in...2.htm</A><p>Mike

Ascariss
08-10-2005, 12:36 AM
Should be a good show this year.

RikfromBelgium
08-10-2005, 05:38 AM
great show indeed, I'll take lots of pictures <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

Miyka'el
08-10-2005, 10:20 PM
<B>2006</B> <B>Kia Magentis/Optima</B>: <A HREF="http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=16273&page=1" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carspyshots.net/zer...age=1</A> - originally from <I>Autoindex.org</I><p><B>Renault Egeus</B> concept: <A HREF="http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/59034/renault_takes_aim_at_rav4_with_new_suv.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/n....html</A><p>Mike<br>

Miyka'el
08-10-2005, 10:29 PM
The Jeep pre-production/concept units will be the <B>Patriot</B> and the <B>Compass Rallye</B>, not the Patriot Prototype and Patriot Compass. <A HREF="http://www.carpages.co.uk/chrysler_jeep/chrysler-jeep-compass-rallye-10-08-05.asp?switched=on&echo=1023327100" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carpages.co.uk/chry...27100</A><p>Mike<p><IMG SRC="http://www.carpages.co.uk/chrysler_jeep/chrysler_jeep_images/chrysler_jeep_patriot_10_08_05.JPG" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.carpages.co.uk/chrysler_jeep/chrysler_jeep_images/chrysler_jeep_compass_rallye_10_08_05.JPG" BORDER="0">

bolita
08-11-2005, 11:35 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>milu</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>The date says January 10th. Check the third entry.<p><br><i>Modified by Santeno at 1:31 PM 8/2/2005</i></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Depends when in 2006 Volvo plans to launch the C30...If its 1st quarter I would bet money that it will show @ Frankfurt..if later maybe Detroit or who know even Tokyo?? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cool.gif" BORDER="0">

Audi_FSI
08-11-2005, 01:36 PM
I would have gone but i dont have enough time........ <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsad.gif" BORDER="0">

DSC-OFF
08-11-2005, 08:48 PM
<IMG SRC="http://www.channel4.com/4car/media/news/02-medium/espada-sketch.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Lamborghini has released pictures of a new concept car revisiting the Espada (1968-78): a front-engined 2+2 GT which could compete against the likes of the Aston DB9 and Maserati 5000GT. It could be fitted with either the <b>Gallardo's 5.0-litre V10 or the Murcielago's 6.2 V12</b>, and could go into production late 2007: it is said to be entirely production-feasible, and not too far off getting the go-ahead as Audi seeks to widen the Lamborghini product range and achieve Ferrari-rivalling sales volumes. <p><b>Built on a version of the next-generation VW Group 'D4' platform - to be used for the next-generation Audi A8, Volkswagen Phaeton and related models, Bentley Arnage and even a rumoured 'entry-level' Bugatti</b> (less powerful than the Veyron) - the new Espada will have a practical hatchback-type boot and <b>could also have RX-8-style 'suicide' doors</b> for easier access to the rear seats. However, although it is referred to internally as the 'Espada', it is likely to take a new name if - when - it goes into production. Sources suggest 'Lagartijo", after a famous matador. <p>This concept car could make its debut at the Frankfurt Motor Show next month, though Lamborghini may not wish it to detract attention from the launch of the Gallardo Spyder and Roadster (the latter the production version of the no-compromises Concept S seen in Geneva) and special edition Gallardo Piton coupe models. <b>The facelifted Murcielago will probably not, however, be seen until next year, when four-wheel drive versions with the uprated 6.5 V12 will be revealed, and perhaps even the long-rumoured diesel models with the VW TDI V10</b>. <b>Lamborghini is also said to be working on a modern-day LM 002 off-roader, and prototypes have been built of 'LM 00X' high-spec Reef Runner, Road Runner and Race Runner derivatives featuring a pair of scissor-opening doors. There are also reports that the so-called 'baby Lambo' project is well underway, with a coupe using an Audi V8 scheduled for launch in 2008[</b>.<br>

against the wall
08-11-2005, 09:26 PM
what is the le mans gonna be on then.<p>jesse what is the source for the article.

DSC-OFF
08-11-2005, 09:34 PM
Sorry forgot to post source, got it from 4CAR

DSC-OFF
08-11-2005, 09:39 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bonzos montreaux</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what is the le mans gonna be on then.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The Audi LeMans? probably either the same platform or its own

Miyka'el
08-11-2005, 10:21 PM
<B>2006 Subaru Impreza WRC</B>: <A HREF="http://www.crash.net/uk/en/news_view.asp?cid=4&nid=116682" TARGET="_blank">http://www.crash.net/uk/en/new...16682</A>.<p>Mike

against the wall
08-11-2005, 10:22 PM
man this show is gonna be awesome. wish i could go.

Miyka'el
08-11-2005, 10:25 PM
<B>2006 Suzuki Grand Vitara</B>: <A HREF="http://www.askaprice.com/new_car_news.asp?news=New%20Grand%20Vitara&item=6694" TARGET="_blank">http://www.askaprice.com/new_c...=6694</A>.<p>Mike

Miyka'el
08-11-2005, 10:30 PM
0000 <B>Renault Clio Renaultsport Concept</B>: <A HREF="http://www.wheels24.co.za/Wheels24/Frankfurt_Motor_Show/0,,1369-1856_1751766,00.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.wheels24.co.za/Whee....html</A>.<p>Mike

against the wall
08-11-2005, 10:31 PM
ughh the list just doesnt stop. please save some for ny.

Miyka'el
08-11-2005, 10:35 PM
<B>2006 Ssangyong Kyron</B>: <A HREF="http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2005/08/08/139736.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.theautochannel.com/....html</A>.<p>Mike

Miyka'el
08-11-2005, 10:36 PM
"It's not my fault: I only read it!"<p>Mike

Miyka'el
08-11-2005, 10:38 PM
<B>2006 Vauxhall Vectra VXR</B>: <A HREF="http://www.carpages.co.uk/vauxhall/vauxhall-vectra-vxr-08-08-05.asp?switched=on&echo=1023389404" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carpages.co.uk/vaux...89404</A>.<p>Mike

Miyka'el
08-11-2005, 10:42 PM
The "Fisker Roadster" will be called the <B>Tramonto</B>: <A HREF="http://motoring.iafrica.com/newsbriefs/469892.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://motoring.iafrica.com/newsbriefs/469892.htm</A>.<p>Mike

against the wall
08-11-2005, 10:46 PM
this is just too much. is this like europes biggest major auto show?

Miyka'el
08-11-2005, 10:49 PM
<B>2006 Jeep Commander</B> (European debut): <A HREF="http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=106645" TARGET="_blank">http://www.edmunds.com/insidel...06645</A>.<p>Mike

Miyka'el
08-11-2005, 10:51 PM
It must be! Good grief! It keeps going, and going... fatigue is setting in.... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1zhelp.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Mike

Miyka'el
08-11-2005, 10:53 PM
<I>Rumor</I>- <B>2007 Land Rover Freelander</B>: <A HREF="http://carpoint.ninemsn.com.au/portal/alias__carpointau/tabID__6491/ArticleID__7465/DesktopDefault.aspx" TARGET="_blank">http://carpoint.ninemsn.com.au....aspx</A>.<p>Mike

against the wall
08-11-2005, 10:53 PM
right now im gonna search through this thread and count the amount of debuts.<p>ok i cant count them, its to scattered. can someone make a list?

Miyka'el
08-11-2005, 11:00 PM
Apparently, the "Jaguar XJR" will be called the <B>Daimler Super Eight</B>... which sounds to me like "Germany's largest motel chain," or something.... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> Source: <A HREF="http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=106635" TARGET="_blank">http://www.edmunds.com/insidel...06635</A>.<p>Mike

against the wall
08-12-2005, 08:18 AM
damn, over 60 debuts at 1 show. jesse u forgot about some of the bmw concepts (rfk and another 1).

AM2K
08-12-2005, 08:23 AM
Its extremely unlikely that Land Rover Freelander will be showing. The car is still in early stages of testing, and will not be out till late 06/07 me thinks..<p>It would be nice if they did another surprise concept though!

DSC-OFF
08-12-2005, 08:26 AM
And RFK stands for?

RikfromBelgium
08-12-2005, 08:32 AM
MPV or raum funktioneles konzept

Fcuke
08-12-2005, 12:44 PM
Thanks alot Mike! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"><p>I've made a new list now, that is more friendly to have a look at! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"><p>What about the jaguar XJR? Will it Be call Daimler Super Eight R?<p>And what sort of engine will the BMW 7H have? 760H?<p>And will be BMW H2R be shown?<p>Take a look at the first page for the list! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Also post confirmating links to those not confirmated <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

Miyka'el
08-12-2005, 01:26 PM
"<I>Thanks alot Mike!</I>" <p>Not a problem -- it's my pleasure.<p>"<I>I've made a new list now, that is more friendly to have a look at!</I>"<p>It's awesome! Excellent job. <p>"<I>What about the jaguar XJR? Will it Be call Daimler Super Eight R?</I>"<p>Yes, "<B>Jaguar XJR" = Daimler Super Eight</B>, so we can now sink the Jag under the Daimler as one vehicle... and a <I>Confirmed</I> one at that.<p>"<I>And what sort of engine will the BMW 7H have? 760H?</I>"<p>The <B>BMW 760h</B> is a petrol- and <B>hydrogen</B>-powered hybrid rather than the petrol- and battery-powered hybrids now available. This is a mechanical preview of sorts for a 2009MY production version.<p>"<I>And will be BMW H2R be shown?</I>"<p>I believe the H2R debuted at the Paris Auto Show last year - I could be wrong. Not sure if it will be shown this year.... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Mike<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Miyka'el at 1:31 PM 8/12/2005</i>

against the wall
08-12-2005, 01:35 PM
fcuke i thought both porsches the s-class and the r32 were also confirmed.

Fcuke
08-12-2005, 04:31 PM
<I>"fcuke i thought both porsches the s-class and the r32 were also confirmed."</I> <br>I can't fin any links on that. If you'd find them, I'd appreciate it. Haven't got the time to google them down atm.<p><I>"Yes, "Jaguar XJR" = Daimler Super Eight, so we can now sink the Jag under the Daimler as one vehicle... and a Confirmed one at that."</I> <p>I thought that the Jaguar XJ was to be the Daimler Super Eight.. And does that make the Jaguar XJR, Daimelr Super Eight R, or will both XJ and XJR be gone, and the new model, Super Eight be made? I might just be abit confused.. hehe <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"><p><br>Edit: <p>Cery exciting about that 760H to <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> Do you think it will be added to the BMW production range, or won't they be allowed as the concern on the last one?<p>EDIT again:<p>As for the Civic. What model? Isn't the civic already out?

DSC-OFF
08-12-2005, 05:14 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Fcuke</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><I>I thought that the Jaguar XJ was to be the Daimler Super Eight.. And does that make the Jaguar XJR, Daimelr Super Eight R, or will both XJ and XJR be gone, and the new model, Super Eight be made? I might just be abit confused.. hehe <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yeah you sound very confused..the Jaguar XJ & the Daimler Super Eight might be the same exact car, but they are on separate marques. Jaguars only debut at Frankfurt might only be the new XK, and Daimler will introduce the Super Eight. There will be no "Super Eight R"<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Cery exciting about that 760H to <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> Do you think it will be added to the BMW production range, or won't they be allowed as the concern on the last one?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Everyone has to stop already about the 760h, i made it up lol, it was the first thing that came into my mind. most likely itll be a 750h<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As for the Civic. What model? Isn't the civic already out?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The Civic Euro Hatchback<p><A HREF="http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=16076" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=16076</A>

Miyka'el
08-12-2005, 10:48 PM
LOL! Whether you made it up or not, it's legit: <br><A HREF="http://www.autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=101053" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoweek.com/articl...01053</A><p>"<I>Whenand ifthe hydrogen age takes hold, BMW seems prepared on the consumer side with its gas/hydrogen 760h, the companys sixth-generation hydrogen car since 1979. Officials say that car will be ready for public sale probably as a 2008 model. And its H2R could, we think, follow quickly behind, setting speed records into the hydrogen-powered future</I>."<p><A HREF="http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.wawawoum.com/magazine/2005_01/bmw/h2r_2004/&prev=/search%3Fq%3DBMW%2B760h%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG" TARGET="_blank">http://translate.google.com/tr...a%3DG</A><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Mike

Miyka'el
08-12-2005, 11:06 PM
"...i thought both porsches the s-class and the r32 were also confirmed."<p>All <I>Confirmed</I>:<p><B>2006 Porsche Cayman S</B>: <A HREF="http://www.autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=102908" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoweek.com/articl...02908</A> <p><B>0000 Porsche Panamera Concept</B>: <A HREF="http://carpoint.ninemsn.com.au/portal/alias__carpointau/tabID__6491/ArticleID__7463/DesktopDefault.aspx" TARGET="_blank">http://carpoint.ninemsn.com.au....aspx</A><p><B>2007 Mercedes-Benz S-Class</B>: <A HREF="http://www.ameinfo.com/65660.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.ameinfo.com/65660.html</A><p><B>2006 Volkswagen Golf R32</B>: <U>http://www.newcarnet.co.uk/Volkswagen_preview.html?id=4844</U><p>Mike

Miyka'el
08-12-2005, 11:14 PM
<B>2007 Nissan NOTE<p>2006 Nissan Micra C+C<p>2006 Nissan Micra 160SR</B><p>Source: <A HREF="http://www.carpages.co.uk/nissan/nissan-note-12-08-05.asp?switched=on&echo=1023444762" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carpages.co.uk/niss...44762</A><p>Mike

Miyka'el
08-12-2005, 11:21 PM
The <B>2007 Audi Q7</B> is <I>Confirmed</I>: <p><A HREF="http://motoring.iafrica.com/newsbriefs/468771.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://motoring.iafrica.com/newsbriefs/468771.htm</A>; <p><A HREF="http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=102910" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=102910</A>.<p>Mike

DSC-OFF
08-12-2005, 11:22 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Miykael</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">LOL! Whether you made it up or not, it's legit: <br><A HREF="http://www.autoweek.com/article.cms?articleId=101053" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoweek.com/articl...01053</A><p>"<I>Whenand ifthe hydrogen age takes hold, BMW seems prepared on the consumer side with its gas/hydrogen 760h, the companys sixth-generation hydrogen car since 1979. Officials say that car will be ready for public sale probably as a 2008 model. And its H2R could, we think, follow quickly behind, setting speed records into the hydrogen-powered future</I>."<p><A HREF="http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://www.wawawoum.com/magazine/2005_01/bmw/h2r_2004/&prev=/search%3Fq%3DBMW%2B760h%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG" TARGET="_blank">http://translate.google.com/tr...a%3DG</A><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Mike</TD></TR></TABLE><p>holy sh**..

scorpio14
08-12-2005, 11:59 PM
I cant believe there are no Toyotas or Lexus... that suxs<br>

RikfromBelgium
08-13-2005, 02:36 AM
I also thought MB will show a lightweight SL concept.

Miyka'el
08-13-2005, 10:36 AM
Who knows... maybe they'll unveil the '07 Camry and '06 RAV4? An FTSX follow-up would be nice....<p>Mike

against the wall
08-13-2005, 12:26 PM
the camry and rav4 will probably be at detroit or tokyo. im guessing a tokyo intro for the camry and a detroit intro for the rav4 cuz the rav4 is slated to be released in february.

DSC-OFF
08-13-2005, 07:01 PM
I dont know about the Rav-4 but the Camry will definitely get a North American debut, why debut America's best selling car in Japan?<p>Maybe the IS460 will be introed here? maybe not

Miyka'el
08-13-2005, 10:06 PM
"...<I>cuz the rav4 is slated to be released in february</I>."<p>Well, it's true that the Toyota RAV4 V6 will be out in February, but remember that the new RAV4 4-cylinder will be available for sale in NA by December (so basically, I <I>really</I> feel that Tokyo is the most likely). As for the '07 Camry, a US-debut totally makes sense (though <I>Edmunds.com</I> is saying Tokyo). Those weren't calculated predictions -- just some random, unfounded junk to argue over. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Mike<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Miyka'el at 10:18 PM 8/13/2005</i>

Fcuke
08-15-2005, 04:00 AM
Updated again.<p>Thanks for getting me straight about the XJ :P<p>Really looking forward to this show. All the BMW.<p>Do you know which styling manufacturers will show in Frankfurt? Like AC Schnitzer, Alpina, Hamann, Kleemann, Carlsson etc?

bolita
08-15-2005, 12:47 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jesse</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Alfa Romeo 159<p>Volvo V30 will definitely not be in Frankfurt, if you go to Volvos site it says theyre gonna be introing it on 10.1 (although they might surprise every1 & debut it at Frankfurt anyway, happened before)</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I believe that the 1/10/05 means that the news was posted on the 10th of January as the model, called C30 on the site, will hit showrooms during 2006... I still believe that it may be shown as a concept depending on when the SOP will be...

The Artist
08-15-2005, 01:26 PM
Bugatti will not be there.. i talked to them 2 days ago...

DSC-OFF
08-16-2005, 01:38 PM
<i>An AMG version of the R-Class luxury people carrier will be on the Mercedes' stand at next month's Frankfurt Motor Show. It's likely to be powered by 550bhp version of supercharged 5.0-litre V8 from M-Class off-roader.</i><p>Source: <A HREF="http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/59042/amg_rclass.html" TARGET="_blank">AutoExpress</A>

Fcuke
08-16-2005, 03:45 PM
equals R32 AMG?

SELLER
08-16-2005, 07:41 PM
Gallardo coupe Refresh is a 2007 model, I doubt it will be shown this year.

Miyka'el
08-17-2005, 09:12 PM
<B>2006/07 Mercedes-Benz ML63 AMG</B>: <A HREF="http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=106894" TARGET="_blank">http://www.edmunds.com/insidel...06894</A>.<p>Mike

Miyka'el
08-17-2005, 09:16 PM
<B>2007 Alfa Romeo Brera Spider</B>: <A HREF="http://www.indiacar.net/news/n12438.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://www.indiacar.net/news/n12438.htm</A>.<p>Mike

Miyka'el
08-17-2005, 09:19 PM
<B>2006 Jaguar XK</B> sports coupe: <A HREF="http://www.vogue.co.uk/vogue_daily/story/story.asp?stid=28304&date=&sid=" TARGET="_blank">http://www.vogue.co.uk/vogue_d...&sid=</A>.<p>Mike

Fcuke
08-18-2005, 11:50 AM
Updated list again. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Looking forward to see what cars that really are at the show! :D

LEXUS FAN!
08-18-2005, 05:27 PM
BMW 760h...sounds familiar...<p>they couldn't have thought of something better

Adrokvs
08-19-2005, 07:56 AM
Ford D-Max no, only in Geneva 2006.

Reppu
08-22-2005, 03:08 AM
Here is the list according to km77<p><A HREF="http://www.km77.com/reportajes/salones/francfort2005/t01.asp" TARGET="_blank">http://www.km77.com/reportajes...1.asp</A>

mattthebad
08-22-2005, 03:37 AM
Auto-Motor-und-Sport, german car mag no.1 writes, that Bugatti is a "no show".<br>The car will be presented to customers at Molsheim/France on Sept.3rd.<p>Matt

Miyka'el
08-22-2005, 10:07 PM
<B>BMW Z4 Coupe</B> & <B>BMW X3 Hybrid</B>: <A HREF="http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=106960" TARGET="_blank">http://www.edmunds.com/insidel...06960</A>.<p>Mike

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08-23-2005, 09:38 AM
Alfa Romeo 159<br>Alfa Romeo Brera Cabriolet ??<br>Alfa Romeo Spider<br>Audi A4/S4 Cabrio<br>Audi Concept<br>Audi Q5 Concept<br>Audi Q7<br>Audi RS4 Avant ??<br>Audi S6/RS6 ??<br>Audi TT ??<br>Bentley Drophead Coupe<br>BMW 130i<br>BMW 1-Series M-Sport<br>BMW 3-Series M-Sport<br>BMW 760h<br>BMW Concept<br>BMW M3 ??<br>BMW M5 Touring ??<br>BMW M6 Cabrio ??<br>BMW M Roadster ??<br>BMW Raum Funktioneles Konzept Concept<br>BMW X3 Hybrid Hydrogen<br>BMW X5 ??<br>BMW Z4 Coupe<br>Bugatti 16.4 Veyron ??<br>Cadillac STS-V<br>Cadillac XLR-V<br>Chevrolet Aveo<br>Chrysler PT Cruiser<br>Citroen C3<br>Citroen Sport Lounge<br>Daimler Super Eight<br>Dodge Caliber ??<br>Dodge Nitro Concept<br>Ferrari FXX<br>Fiat Panda SUV Concept ??<br>Fiat Grand Punto<br>Fiat Punto<br>Fisker Tramonto<br>Fenomenon Stratos Roadster<br>Ford D-Max<br>Ford E-Max ??<br>Ford Fiesta<br>Ford Focus CC<br>Ford Focus ST<br>Ford Fusion<br>Ford Galaxy<br>Geely Chinese Dragon<br>Geely Freedom<br>Geely HQ<br>Geely Marindo<br>Geely Mei Ren Bao<br>Honda Civic Hatchback<br>Hyundai Click/Getz<br>Hyundai Entourage ?? (its either this or the Santa Fe CM)<br>Hyundai Santa Fe CM ??<br>Jaguar XK8<br>Jeep Commander<br>Jeep Compass Rallye Concept<br>Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT-8<br>Jeep Patriot Concept<br>Kia Magentis/Optima<br>Lambo Espada Concept ??<br>Lambo Gallardo Refresh ??<br>Lambo Gallardo SE<br>Lambo Gallardo Spider<br>Lambo Murcielago Refresh ??<br>LR Defender Limited<br>LR Freelander ??<br>Maser Quattroporte Sport & Executive GT<br>Mazda 5<br>Mercedes ML63 AMG<br>Mercedes R63 AMG<br>Mercedes S-Klasse 500 (63 AMG ??, 600 ??)<br>Mitsubishi Concept Sportback Concept<br>Nissan Micra 160SR<br>Nissan Micra CC<br>Nissan Note<br>Peugeot 207 Concept ??<br>Peugeot 307<br>Peugeot 407 Coupe<br>Porsche 911 Carrera 4S<br>Porsche Cayman S<br>Porsche Panamera Concept<br>Renault Clio RS Concept ??<br>Renault Egeus Concept<br>Renault Kangoo<br>Renault Megane ??<br>Renaultsport Clio Concept<br>Saab 9-5 ??<br>SEAT Altea FR Concept<br>SEAT Altea TFSI<br>Skoda Octavia vRS Saloon & Estate<br>Smart ForFour Bellybutton Concept<br>Ssangyong Kyron<br>Subbie Forester<br>Subbie WRX Spec-C<br>Subbie WRX WR Limited<br>Suzuki Escudo/Vitara/Grand Vitara<br>Suzuki Swift Sport<br>Toyota Yaris<br>V-hall Astra Twin-top<br>V-hall Signum<br>V-hall Vectra<br>V-hall Vectra VXR<br>Volkswagen Bora<br>Volkswagen Golf Cabrio ??<br>Volkswagen Golf GT<br>Volkswagen Golf R32<br>Volkswagen New Beetle<br>Volkswagen Passat<br>Volkswagen Phaeton Executive<br>Volkswagen Touareg Executive<br>Volkswagen Touran<br>Volvo C70 CC<p>Volvo V30 will definitely not be in Frankfurt, if you go to Volvos site it says theyre gonna be introing it on 10.1 (although they might surprise every1 & debut it at Frankfurt anyway, happened before)<br>

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08-23-2005, 02:11 PM
Smart ForFour Bellybutton<p><IMG SRC="http://www.d.lycos.de/startseite/auto/newlook/images/verylarge/15066_1123668961853.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.d.lycos.de/startseite/auto/newlook/images/verylarge/15066_1123668986660.jpg" BORDER="0">

Miyka'el
08-24-2005, 10:56 PM
<B>2006 Ford Fiesta</B>: <A HREF="http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/59360/return_of_the_xr2.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/n....html</A>.<p>Mike

FordRules
08-24-2005, 11:53 PM
whats with the smiling people in the samrt lol there making me laugh

Miyka'el
08-25-2005, 09:38 PM
Wh-... what...? Why are they laughing at me? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsad.gif" BORDER="0"> [Checks fly.]<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> Mike

Miyka'el
08-25-2005, 09:43 PM
Apparently, Toyota does have a little something up its sleeves:<p><A HREF="http://today.reuters.com/business/newsArticle.aspx?type=ousiv&storyID=2005-08-25T124928Z_01_L25707697_RTRIDST_0_BUSINESSPRO-AUTOS-TOYOTA-FRANCE-DC.XML" TARGET="_blank">http://today.reuters.com/busin...C.XML</A><p>Interesting, says I.... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Mike

Miyka'el
08-26-2005, 10:19 PM
Fcuke,<p>You can take the <B>Hyundai Entourage</B> off of the list: plans to build the vehicle were officially axed Friday, with the announcement coming today. The two brands (Kia and Hyundai) want to further differentiate themselves from one another, and releasing similar minivans based on the same platform just wasn't the way to do it. The company will instead focus on its SUV and sport wagon line-up. No word yet on when the Santa Fe (CM) will first debut.<p>Mike<br>____________<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Miyka'el at 9:13 PM 8/29/2005</i>

Miyka'el
08-27-2005, 04:43 PM
<B>Peugeot 907 GT</B> coupe: <A HREF="http://www.gizmag.com/go/4498/" TARGET="_blank">http://www.gizmag.com/go/4498/</A><p>Mike

Miyka'el
08-27-2005, 04:45 PM
0000 <B>Fenomenon Stratos Roadster</B> concept: <A HREF="http://car-reviews.automobile.com/news/boutique-carmaker-fenomenon-chops-stratos-roof-for-frankfurt-show/1399/" TARGET="_blank">http://car-reviews.automobile....1399/</A><p>Mike

Miyka'el
08-27-2005, 04:59 PM
The VW "Golf Cabrio" will be called the <B>Eos</B>: <A HREF="http://www.germancarfans.com/news.cfm/NewsID/2050826.005/volkswagen/1.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.germancarfans.com/n....html</A>.<p>Mike

Miyka'el
08-27-2005, 11:42 PM
<B>2006 Maybach 57 Spezial</B>: <A HREF="http://www.autospies.com/article/index.asp?articleId=5215" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autospies.com/artic...=5215</A>. Usually not the most reliable source, but I'm sure they got this one right. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Mike

against the wall
08-28-2005, 11:27 PM
smart for4 bellybutton? wtf? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0">. heh i would laugh too if i was sittin in a car named bellybutton.

scorpio14
08-28-2005, 11:43 PM
You can add the Toyota RAV4 in the list... thats been confirmed

knicks125
08-29-2005, 05:31 AM
While at it, Toyota Endo (Concept) is also going to be there...

mattthebad
08-29-2005, 12:36 PM
another one. I received an Opel newsletter that said, that a secret suv concept would be on display, so it's safe to say, that V-Hall SUV will be unveiled I guess.<p>Please add<p>Btw this seems to become quite an interesting fair.

LEXUS FAN!
08-29-2005, 01:00 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>scorpio14</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can add the Toyota RAV4 in the list... thats been confirmed </TD></TR></TABLE><p>also the Toyota Yaris<p><A HREF="http://pressroom.toyota.com/photo_library/display_release.html?id=20050829" TARGET="_blank">http://pressroom.toyota.com/ph...50829</A>

Miyka'el
08-29-2005, 03:03 PM
Yeah, and while you're adding <I>those</I> Toyotas, you might as well put the... <br><B>Toyota Hilux</B>, <br>two new diesel-powered models of the <B>Toyota Corolla Versa</B>, <br>refreshed <B>Lexus SC430</B>, <br><B>Lexus GS450h</B>, <br><B>Lexus IS</B>, <br>and <B>Lexus LF-A concept</B> on the list: <p><A HREF="http://www.auto123.com/en/info/news/news,view.spy?artid=47700&pg=1" TARGET="_blank">http://www.auto123.com/en/info...&pg=1</A>; <br><A HREF="http://www.carpages.co.uk/lexus/lexus-is-29-08-05.asp?switched=on&echo=292471693" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carpages.co.uk/lexu...71693</A>; <br><A HREF="http://motoring.iafrica.com/newsbriefs/477178.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://motoring.iafrica.com/newsbriefs/477178.htm</A>.<p>Mike<br>___________<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Miyka'el at 3:16 PM 8/29/2005</i>

Miyka'el
08-29-2005, 03:06 PM
A revised <B>2006 Saab 9-5 sedan</B> and <B>SportCombi</B>: <A HREF="http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=103086" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=103086</A>.<p>Mike

Miyka'el
08-29-2005, 09:08 PM
<B>2007 Cadillac BLS</B>: <A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/Industry/Daily_Edition/Daily_Edition_Aug_30_2005.S173.A9170.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co....html</A>.<p>Mike

Miyka'el
08-31-2005, 02:45 PM
<B>Ford Iosis</B> concept: <A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/blog/" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.com/blog/</A>.<p>Mike

Miyka'el
09-01-2005, 08:27 AM
<B>Mazda Sassou concept</B>: <A HREF="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_frankfurt/sassou/pages/01.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoweek.com/files/...1.htm</A>.<p>Mike

Miyka'el
09-01-2005, 08:29 AM
<B>Land Rover Defender Limited</B>: <A HREF="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_frankfurt/defender/pages/01.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoweek.com/files/...1.htm</A>.<p>Mike

Miyka'el
09-01-2005, 08:31 AM
<B>Opel Vectra</B>: <A HREF="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_frankfurt/vectra/pages/01.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoweek.com/files/...1.htm</A>.<br><B>Opel OPC Vectra</B>: <A HREF="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_frankfurt/opc_vectra/pages/01.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoweek.com/files/...1.htm</A>.<p>Mike

Miyka'el
09-01-2005, 08:33 AM
<B>2006/07 Volkswagen Passat Variant</B>: <A HREF="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_frankfurt/passat/pages/01.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoweek.com/files/...1.htm</A>.<p>Mike

Miyka'el
09-01-2005, 08:35 AM
<B>2006/07 BMW 3-series Touring</B>: <A HREF="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_frankfurt/bmw3/pages/01.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoweek.com/files/...1.htm</A>.<p>Mike

KebabGud
09-01-2005, 04:16 PM
rumor has it that the LF-A is not the only Lexus Sportscar there ..<br>(if it true.. yay .. if its not .. BOO!!)

knicks125
09-02-2005, 09:20 AM
<B>Hyundai Accent SR</B><p><A HREF="http://www.autoweek.nl/newsdisp.php?cache=no&ID=3958" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoweek.nl/newsdis...=3958</A><p>Is that the Rally version?<p>Can someone please translate? Thanks! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>----------------------------------------------------------------------<p>Also, SEAT will be unveiling the prototype of the <B>future Altea FR</B><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by knicks125 at 12:27 PM 9/2/2005</i>

Miyka'el
09-02-2005, 02:46 PM
"<I>Is that the Rally version?</I>"<p>Well, it seems to be a rally-<I>inspired</I> concept, but I'd expect the production 3-door to look <I>very</I> similar to this.<p>Mike

AM2K
09-05-2005, 01:53 PM
In the current issue of Top Gear Magazine, I was reading an article about Frankfurt. The quote was :<p><I>"If you have yet to visit our redesigned website, go there now and then go back again on the 12th. All the new cars <B>- <U>including the new, new Mini</U> -</B> will be there to see the moment they are unveiled."</I><p><br>Anybody heard anything else about the mini being unveiled at Franfurt?

T.B.
09-05-2005, 02:36 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>AM2K</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Anybody heard anything else about the mini being unveiled at Franfurt?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>There <B>WILL BE </B> a new MINI preview at IAA - as a Concept car.<br>There will be an official announcement made at BMW & MINI press conferences on 12. Sept. in BMW pavillion at IAA. <br>BMW Group is going to present a lot of debuts and previews there, including Z4 Coupe preview, X3 hybrid preview, M5 Touring, M6 Cabrio, M3 preview, new MINI preview, RR Cabriolet preview.<p>IAA 2005 will definitely bring a lot of new BMW Group's products, which will put MB (with new S-class, ML AMG and R AMG) and Audi (with Q7) in the shade. Unless MB and Audi haven't disclosed all their cards yet ...

AM2K
09-05-2005, 02:55 PM
No RFK (people carrier) Concept from BMW yet?

T.B.
09-05-2005, 03:34 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>AM2K</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No RFK (people carrier) Concept from BMW yet?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Not yet. Z4 Coupe and M3 got the priority over RFK. <br>It's logical, since RFK will debute in 2008, and the other two cars erlier - in 2006.

shonguiz
09-06-2005, 12:01 PM
X3 Hybrid ?? I thought they weren't considering hybrid motorisation ??

Miyka'el
09-06-2005, 09:09 PM
"<I>X3 Hybrid ??</I>"<p>Yep, check this out: <A HREF="http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=106960" TARGET="_blank">http://www.edmunds.com/insidel...06960</A>.<p>Mike

Miyka'el
09-07-2005, 08:42 AM
<B>Mini Countryman</B> concept: <A HREF="http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=103139" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoweek.com/news.cms?newsId=103139</A>.<p>Mike

Miyka'el
09-07-2005, 10:11 PM
<B>2007 Audi A4 Cabriolet</B> -- <I>confirmed</I>: <A HREF="http://autoweb.drive.com.au/cms/A_105121/newsarticle.html" TARGET="_blank">http://autoweb.drive.com.au/cm....html</A>.<p>Mike<br>____________<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Miyka'el at 10:23 PM 9/7/2005</i>

Miyka'el
09-07-2005, 10:16 PM
<B>Daihatsu D-Compact</B> concept: <A HREF="http://www.carkeys.co.uk/news/2005/september/07/6863.asp" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carkeys.co.uk/news/...3.asp</A>.<p>Mike

Miyka'el
09-07-2005, 10:19 PM
<B>Ford Galaxy</B>: <A HREF="http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/59862/new_mondeo_wings_in.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/n....html</A>.<p>Mike

Miyka'el
09-07-2005, 10:22 PM
<B>2006 Honda Accord</B> (i.e., Acura TSX for the USDM): <A HREF="http://www.wheels24.co.za/Wheels24/News/0,,1369-1372_1766534,00.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.wheels24.co.za/Whee....html</A>.<p>Mike

RikfromBelgium
09-10-2005, 04:25 AM
I was thinking, we're expecting an M3 concept at IAA. But is there any news on it being the coup? The normal, altough a little dissapointing, thing would be a 4-door saloon M3. It would be strange to present a coup-concept since there hasn't been any official news on it yet. Do you guys know something? thx

Miyka'el
09-10-2005, 07:23 AM
There's nothing official yet - I personally very much doubt that the coupe will show. <br>Anyway, I did a quick search and this is what I found: <A HREF="http://www.wheels24.co.za/Wheels24/News/0,,1369-1372_1758289,00.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.wheels24.co.za/Whee....html</A>.<p>Mike

StevenZoz
09-10-2005, 10:27 PM
hmm... i'm really interested to see if the freelander [LR2] is going to be there. and also the new mini seems very interesting.

Kubas CZ
09-11-2005, 08:17 AM
2006/07 Hyundai Santa Fe (CM) will be show in Franfurkt? If it is thru Ill go there to see CM.

Miyka'el
09-11-2005, 10:30 PM
Whle I really hope it does, part of me really doubts that it will.<br>I keep ya posted on what I find out.<p>Mike

Verdegrrl
09-12-2005, 01:52 PM
"The V8 is a close relative of the equally large power plant that drives the currently most dynamic Audi, the RS 4.<p>...The engine excels not only with its dominant power output (257 kW/350 bhp) at 6,800 rpm and a maximum torque of 440 Nm at 3,500 rpm. The resultant driving performance is excellent, even in the face of tough competition. <p>...In just 7.4 seconds the new Audi Q7 4.2 quattro sprints from zero to 100 km/h and accelerates superbly up to a top speed of 248 km/h. Fuel consumption: only 13.8 litres of premium plus fuel per 100 kilometres (overall / provisional figure)...<p>...Both (3.0 TDI and V8) engines are combined as standard with a 6-speed tiptronic. This transmission allows the engines' power potential to be converted into a masterly synthesis of dynamism...<p>...Like the RS 4 most recently, the Q7 is equipped with the latest-generation quattro drive technology. Here the torque split between front and rear axle is 40 : 60. This provides the basis for even more agility - most notably when steering into bends - with practically no perceivable torque steer....<p>...Large vehicles are not infrequently used to tow trailers - with a trailer weight of up to 3,500 kg the Q7 is clearly destined to be used this way. With this is mind, another function is an indispensable safety feature - the trailer stabilisation system. Often at cruising speed, and even when driving straight ahead, minor lateral movements build up, causing the trailer to sway dangerously as a result. The ESP trailer stabilisation function identifies this situation and effectively stabilises the outfit by means of automatic brake intervention. <p>....A new generation of the radar-assisted distance control system, adaptive cruise control plus, is being introduced in the new Audi Q7. As an extension of conventional adaptive cruise control, the system now controls distance and speed from 0 to 200 km/h. It is therefore able to brake the vehicle to a standstill behind the vehicle ahead. <p>....The collision warning system is being introduced for the first time on the Q7. It uses the sensors of the adaptive cruise control function and has a range of up to 180 metres. If there is the risk of a collision with the car in front, the system alerts the driver in two stages: first a warning tone is issued, with an optical signal appearing on the instrument panel at the same time. If the driver does not react, the system triggers a clearly noticeable warning jolt, produced by a fast build-up of pressure in the brake system. The purpose of the jolt is to draw the driver's attention immediately to what is happening on the road in front of the vehicle. <p>...Incorporating radar sensors, Audi side assist monitors the area next to and behind the vehicle to warn the driver - additionally to the image in the rear-view mirror - of any approaching vehicles. The driver is alerted by a warning light on the outside mirror, followed by an additional acoustic signal should he/she nevertheless switch on the direction indicator. <p>...The open sky system, available as an option, gives all occupants a feeling of generous spaciousness and ensures an excellent supply of fresh air, along with a high level of versatility. The large panorama glass sunroof extends in three segments, reaching virtually from the front roof edge to the third seat row. The front segment of the 1.6 square metre open sky system can be raised and moved to the rear electrically. The rear segment is designed as a tilting roof. "<p>All the gory details and pics in this link: <A HREF="http://www.audiworld.com/news/05/frankfurt/q7/content.shtml" TARGET="_blank">http://www.audiworld.com/news/...shtml</A>

Comrade
09-12-2005, 03:43 PM
loads of Audi pics:<br><A HREF="http://www.fourtitude.com/gallery/gallery2.php?mode=album&album=/Events/Frankfurt%20IAA/2005/Audi%20Show%20Photos" TARGET="_blank">http://www.fourtitude.com/gall...hotos</A>

schmoehe
09-13-2005, 06:24 AM
this year Rinspeed/CBF is going to present a 997 bodykit, INDY.<p><IMG SRC="http://www.cbf-studio.com/Bilder/indy1.gif" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.cbf-studio.com/Bilder/indy2.gif" BORDER="0"><IMG SRC="http://www.cbf-studio.com/Bilder/indy3.gif" BORDER="0"><IMG SRC="http://www.cbf-studio.com/Bilder/indy4.gif" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.cbf-studio.com/Bilder/indy5.gif" BORDER="0"><p>check the pics on <A HREF="http://www.cbf-studio.com/home/gallery/gallery.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.cbf-studio.com/home....html</A><p>source: cbf-studio<p><br>i think its an alternative to the orig. gt3!... what do you think?<br>

RikfromBelgium
09-13-2005, 08:10 AM
looks like a lot of the expected BMW's aren't going to be showed <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/crying.gif" BORDER="0">

martinbo
09-13-2005, 08:17 AM
... and no Panamera concept either! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/crying.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/crying.gif" BORDER="0">

Reppu
09-13-2005, 08:19 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>RikfromBelgium</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">looks like a lot of the expected BMW's aren't going to be showed <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/crying.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Too many premieres, it was too good to be true.

RikfromBelgium
09-13-2005, 08:23 AM
Just the Z4 coup is just too little. I at least expected the M5 touring.<p>Don't get me wrong, I'll be like a child in a toy-store <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/images/smilies/sponge.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/images/smilies/sponge.gif" BORDER="0"> overthere, but I'm a bit dissapointed.

Ascariss
09-13-2005, 08:29 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>martinbo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">... and no Panamera concept either! </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Hmm, perhaps tomorrow, unless the debut is for press only and not for public show, like some debuts in the past. <p>press conference times for the 12 and 13th.<br><A HREF="http://www.iaa.de/2005/www/PDF/presse_e.pdf" TARGET="_blank">http://www.iaa.de/2005/www/PDF/presse_e.pdf</A><p>porsche was in the morning today, so hmm, odd.

RikfromBelgium
09-13-2005, 08:30 AM
Ascariss, do you know something about more BMW-news, perhaps tomorrow for this show? Or is this all we're gonna get.<br>thx

StevenZoz
09-13-2005, 02:31 PM
how long do u think it will take the mini to get to production?

against the wall
09-13-2005, 03:10 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>stevenzoz</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how long do u think it will take the mini to get to production?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>probably a year or 2. thats IMO. im pissed. half the expected models never showed. didnt we expect over 60 premieres?

scorpio14
09-13-2005, 04:54 PM
<A HREF="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_frankfurt" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoweek.com/files/...kfurt</A>/<p>Source: Autoweek

against the wall
09-13-2005, 05:27 PM
ok i just counted. aw has 40 on the site but some of the models confirmed are not there.

scorpio14
09-13-2005, 05:34 PM
Maybe they havent got around to all of um yet... guess gotta wait abit... or check other sites

Gian86
09-13-2005, 06:19 PM
I saw this article from italiaspeed.com, it says that Lancia will make a huge surprise at next year's Geneva motor show. They talk to them during press at Frankfurt motor show.

against the wall
09-13-2005, 06:43 PM
anybody know any good english sites that i can find pictures of cars at frankfurt besides the american magazines?

pcread
09-13-2005, 11:50 PM
<A HREF="http://www.channel4.com/4car/news/news-archive.jsp?type=New%20Models" TARGET="_blank">http://www.channel4.com/4car/n...odels</A>

Gian86
09-14-2005, 12:20 AM
I don't know, there's worldcarfans.com (it might be american), but there's frankfurt page on MSN uk:<p><A HREF="http://frankfurt.cars.msn.co.uk" TARGET="_blank">http://frankfurt.cars.msn.co.uk</A>/<p>Videos included but only one at this stage. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emdgust.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>

CWW
09-14-2005, 04:01 AM
Mercedes S Class and S Class AMG:<p><A HREF="http://www.cwwcardesign.com/mercedes_s-class.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.cwwcardesign.com/mercedes_s-class.html</A><p>General Mecedes News from the IAA: (Viano X-clusive, S Class, SLR, R Class AMG)<p><A HREF="http://www.cwwcardesign.com/Mercedes_At_IAA_2005.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.cwwcardesign.com/Me....html</A><p>Links contain many wallpapers, too.

CWW
09-14-2005, 09:03 AM
CLK DTM AMG Cabriolet <p>High technology derived from motorsport, the handling dynamism of the racetrack, a sensational visual appearance and the utmost exclusivity  the new Mercedes-Benz CLK DTM AMG Cabriolet is guaranteed to make the hearts of true car lovers beat faster. A limited edition of 100, the CLK DTM AMG Cabriolet is capable of a fulminating performance with its 428-kW/582-hp AMG 5.5-litre, supercharged V8, a newly developed AMG sports suspension, optional sports tyres and aerodynamics refined in the wind tunnel: this high-performance AMG sports car accelerates to 100 km/h in just 4.0 seconds and has a maximum speed of 300 km/h (electronically limited). This makes the new high-performance AMG Cabriolet the worlds fastest open-top four-seater.<br>The great demand for the CLK DTM AMG Coup, which was likewise a limited edition of 100 and rapidly sold out, provided the initial impetus for the development of the powerful high-performance AMG Cabriolet. It was also modelled on the most successful car in the German Touring Car Masters  the racing version of the Mercedes-Benz CLK with which Bernd Schneider was able to win the DTM championship in the 2003 season. The equipment of the CLK DTM AMG Cabriolet also takes its lead from the racetrack: AMG sports bucket seats with leather/Alcantara upholstery guarantee optimal lateral support, while the buckskin-covered, oval AMG racing steering wheel and the AMG instrument cluster with its 360 km/h speedometer scale lend an unmistakable motorsport touch to the interior.<p>The exterior design of the new CLK DTM AMG already suggests outstanding performance at the level of thoroughbred sports cars, and demonstrates the transfer of top-class technology from the world of motor racing: a deep-drawn front apron with large air inlets, prominently flared wheel arches, 19 and 20-inch AMG light-alloy wheels and the diffuser-look rear end with its aerofoil are reminiscent of the successful CLK racing tourers from the DTM. Numerous body components are made from particularly strong and lightweight carbon fibre reinforced plastic (CRP), for example the bonnet, doors, front wings, flared rear wheel arches and aerofoil.<p>Performance at the level of a super sports car<p>The Cabriolet is powered by the supercharged AMG eight-cylinder engine, which is familiar from other AMG cars but has been specifically reengineered with modifications to the crankcase, pistons, valve gear, cooling, intake manifold, supercharger and exhaust system. The AMG V8 engine generates a maximum output of 428 kW/582 hp at 6100 rpm from a displacement of 5439 cubic centimetres, while the maximum torque of 800 Newton metres is available at 3500 rpm.<p>Instant response to movements of the accelerator, a powerful surge of torque, exhilarating liveliness and an unmistakable V8 sound are the particular strengths of this ultra-powerful, supercharged AMG 5.5-litre V8 unit, which gives the new CLK DTM AMG Cabriolet the sort of performance levels found in super sports cars. the 100 km/h mark is reached from standstill in just 4.0 seconds, and the top speed is 300 km/h (electronically limited)  no other open-top four-seater in regular production can match these figures. A racing touch is also provided by the AMG SPEEDSHIFT five-speed automatic transmission: the five gears are changed by briefly pulling the shift paddles on the steering wheel, with extremely short shift times guaranteeing a particularly sporty and direct driving experience.<p>Newly developed torsion suspension, limited-slip differential<p>The suspension is fully the equal of the high-performance engine. In line with usual motor racing practice, a height-adjustable torsion suspension system is used. The rear axle has been redesigned with completely new spring links and wheel carriers, as well as reinforced drive shafts. The usual rubber elements are replaced by uni-ball joints on both axles to produce outstandingly precise handling. A multi-disc limited slip differential on the rear axle ensures optimal traction, while acceleration skid control (ASR) and the Electronic Stability Program ESP have been adapted to suit the increased performance potential. <p>Optional Dunlop sports tyres for particularly good grip<p>Outstanding road contact is provided by the optional sports tyres by the DTM motorsport partner Dunlop; these size 225/35 R 19 (front) and 285/30 R 20 (rear). These tyres have particularly good grip and are fitted to multi-piece 9 x 19 and 10 x 20-inch AMG twin-spoke light-alloy wheels. These elegant spokes are not only an eye-catching feature, but also ensure effective ventilation of the brakes. Superb deceleration is provided by the newly developed AMG high-performance composite braking system with six-piston fixed callipers at the front and four-piston fixed callipers at the rear.<p>Functional racing atmosphere in the interior<p>The interior of the CLK DTM AMG is characterised by a functional motor racing atmosphere, with a judicious touch of the exclusivity expected of a genuine AMG high-performance car. AMG sports bucket seats of ultra-light CRP with leather/ Alcantara upholstery provide the occupants with outstanding lateral support, while the AMG sports steering wheel with its oval rim is covered in high-grip buckskin and gives the driver an excellent feel for the vehicle. Like the instrument cluster, the door linings and other interior components are of lightweight CRP. The silver-coloured shift gate, starter button and four rocker switches are eye-catching features on the redesigned centre console.<p>Despite a performance potential worthy of the racetrack, the CLK DTM AMG has all the virtues typical of any Mercedes model: everyday suitability, durability, safety, quality and standards of service to satisfy even the most demanding requirements. The fast AMG Coup is hand-assembled in close cooperation between Mercedes-AMG GmbH and H.W.A. GmbH. The latter is one of the most successful touring car racing teams, and is also responsible for assembly and operation of the current C-Class DTM cars. The first of the limited-edition CLK DTM AMG Cabriolets will be delivered to customers during the first half of 2006. Mercedes-AMG GmbH is responsible for marketing, sales and service.<p>Source: DC

CosworthKid
09-14-2005, 12:34 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bonzos montreaux</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok i just counted. aw has 40 on the site but some of the models confirmed are not there.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I was counting on the Focus CC to make an appearence <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emdgust.gif" BORDER="0">

CWW
09-15-2005, 02:18 AM
Mercedes CLK DTM Cabriolet: Full article with wallpapers:<p><A HREF="http://www.cwwcardesign.com/Mercedes_At_IAA_2005.html#clk" TARGET="_blank">http://www.cwwcardesign.com/Me...l#clk</A>

martinbo
09-15-2005, 02:49 AM
Look, I can appreciate Mercedes' penchant for crossover concepts of late but this, surely has to be the most pointless car I've ever seen them make. <p>1. Why showcase the 5.5 litre supercharged again - why not a higher state of tune 63 AMG engine as per the latest CLK DTM demonstrator?<p>2. DTM meets boulevard cruiser... does the world <i>really</i> need such a thing. In my admittedly cynical opinion, the two concepts are nigh mutually exclusive and the result shows in this utterly confused looking "cabrio".<p>3. ML63 AMG and now this... was that the best that Benz could do for Frankfurt this year with AMG? Evidently, yes... <p>4. Limited production, granted, but still this contributes further to the most contrived Mercedes Benz model range ever. And that's what's hurting the image of Mercedes Benz the most. Normal people just can't keep up any more.

Reppu
09-15-2005, 03:41 AM
Next station: SLR AMG<p>How many of these freak AMG models do they expect to sell? They will not stop until they have two or three AMGs per model throughout their entire range.

Omar
09-15-2005, 02:41 PM
I was so looking forward to seeing BMW's RFK. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsad.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>As Homer Simpson once said, DAMN YOU MAGIC BEANS

against the wall
09-15-2005, 05:58 PM
anybody here go and wants to share their pics if they took em or if anybody is makin the trip?

Bass-o-Matic
09-16-2005, 05:43 AM
I know the site I'm going to mention here is a controversial one (lord knows, I can't stand the smarminess, not to mention the liberties taken on it) but,...<p>autospies.com actually has a very comprehensive photolog from Frankfurt<p>

RikfromBelgium
09-16-2005, 07:52 AM
I don't care if they had the actual cars, they can go **** themselves

Santeno
09-16-2005, 03:05 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CarpFan</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know the site I'm going to mention here is a controversial one (lord knows, I can't stand the smarminess, not to mention the liberties taken on it) but,...<p>autospies.com actually has a very comprehensive photolog from Frankfurt</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Funny you should say that. Actually their picture library of major shows is the only thing that site has going for them. So the lesson is look at the pretty pictures, just don't read anything, you might cause permanent brain damage - just ask Naga... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

Comrade
09-16-2005, 04:33 PM
I take that lesson... pics only.<br>I also hate that website, but that's the only place I saw a picture of the Q7's 3rd row seats and an additional cupholder for the front row, which is available when you lift the passenger's armrest (page 114). some of us were wondering why there was only one cupholder for this type of vehicle but it's 2. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emcocktl.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emcocktl.gif" BORDER="0">

Bass-o-Matic
09-24-2005, 06:22 AM
Rik,...<br>Dude,...<br>That had me rolling on the floor...<br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>

saabhuy
09-27-2005, 11:15 AM
All my pics of frankfurt are on-line at:<br><A HREF="http://racingphoto.skynetblogs.be" TARGET="_blank">http://racingphoto.skynetblogs.be</A>/

BMW_Dude
10-18-2005, 07:53 AM
All my Frankfurt pictures can be seen here:<br><A HREF="http://will507.myphotoalbum.com/slideshow.php?set_albumName=album01" TARGET="_blank">http://will507.myphotoalbum.co...bum01</A><p>Be warned, there are a lot of BMW pictures!