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Ascariss
12-15-2011, 10:34 AM
http://www.worldcarfans.com/111121539040/buick-encore-teased-for-detroit-auto-show

Debut at Detroit.

swizzle
12-15-2011, 02:18 PM
GM recycled an old Renault name why? What's next a Chevy Gremlin?

DoMiNo
12-15-2011, 03:01 PM
Someone at GMI seems to think that this is a Gamma-based small CUV--and not Theta-II as would be expected--which makes no sense at all to me. I'd have predicted a Theta cousin to the SRX (possibly in anticipation of Saab's demise freeing up a lot of capacity). A Gamma-based vehicle seems a little small for Buick. Whatever it is, I hope it's not a Vue rebadge. It does share some cues with the ill-fated "Vueick (http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009/08/wild-ass-rumor-of-the-day-twitter-killed-the-buick-vue/)" (note the mirrors, and the front bumper molding), which gives me pause.

against the wall
12-15-2011, 08:53 PM
heres the Opel version from Burlapp
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-jvG1div5F_8/Tuo6McnFMhI/AAAAAAAAXxA/0qV4n3k1-ME/s400/1.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-V55CUM1ruWc/Tuo6MRGrKRI/AAAAAAAAXws/POLfSC_JGcI/s400/2.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-QdMLhQG6NTo/Tuo6MJ1ZjNI/AAAAAAAAXwk/biFTn73FGLk/s400/3.jpg

SV
12-15-2011, 08:56 PM
It does share some cues with the ill-fated "Vueick (http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2009/08/wild-ass-rumor-of-the-day-twitter-killed-the-buick-vue/)" (note the mirrors, and the front bumper molding), which gives me pause.

I noticed that too, and it worries me. It seems really unlikely that it would be the same car though; I would guess it's probably just a coincidence due to similar design cues.

pjl35
12-15-2011, 09:55 PM
I would guess it's probably just a coincidence due to similar design cues.

I'm sure it's entirely different. That was a few years ago now...and based on recent Buicks I have a very hard time believing that they would resurrect the Vue. I'm cringing while saying this, but I think the Burlapp shots are probably much more accurate than something Vue-like.

boston
12-15-2011, 10:56 PM
GM recycled an old Renault name why? What's next a Chevy Gremlin?

lol. next up, the Buick sports coupe. The Buick Fuego.

Tidal
12-15-2011, 11:05 PM
Just love the fact that Burlapp watermarked pics that have been clearly scanned from an Italian magazine. Shamelessness at its best.

I guess new Buick is the old Saturn is the American Opel. And in this case, with a strong Lancia vibe to the rear.

swizzle
12-16-2011, 02:06 AM
If that styling is accurate, that is one ugly vehicle.

CosworthKid
12-19-2011, 01:46 PM
Not sure about the styling either...but the Encore name seems fine to me

swizzle
12-19-2011, 02:22 PM
Not sure about the styling either...but the Encore name seems fine to me

The reason it's funny to an oldtimer like me is because Renault decided to save American Motors :rofl:, bought it and began building the renault 9 (I think it was) as the Renault Alliance and followed it with the ugly hatchaback 11 as the Encore. The quality was abysmal.

against the wall
12-27-2011, 08:34 PM
confirmation that its the same car as the Opel I posted earlier
http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/2013-buick-encore_100375091_m.jpg

pjl35
12-27-2011, 11:48 PM
confirmation that its the same car as the Opel I posted earlier
http://images.thecarconnection.com/med/2013-buick-encore_100375091_m.jpg

hmm. i'm unsure about this now that we see how small it actually is. seems like there was room for a CUV smaller than the Enclave but bigger that this.

ricerammer
12-27-2011, 11:59 PM
It looks like a Matrix. Pass.

swizzle
12-28-2011, 12:08 AM
Something tells me the Opel mini minvan--forget the name--would have been the better move. The styling of this is fussy and has Equinox cues. Not good.

mario_128
12-28-2011, 12:18 AM
Is this the antara replacement or smaller?

2o6
12-28-2011, 12:22 AM
I dunno. As a Chevrolet, it sounds like a great idea. As a US destined Buick? Not so sure.

Oz Astra
12-28-2011, 12:30 AM
Is this the antara replacement or smaller?

Smaller...

DATSUN
12-28-2011, 01:10 AM
Remember, all Buick dealers (like99%) are linked to a GMC that sells the Terrain. They're trying to keep the overlap down in the showrooms. This essentially replaces the Pontiac Vibe.

2o6
12-28-2011, 04:17 AM
Remember, all Buick dealers (like99%) are linked to a GMC that sells the Terrain. They're trying to keep the overlap down in the showrooms. This essentially replaces the Pontiac Vibe.

Then this should be a GMC or Chevy. As a Buick, it seems misplaced.

SV
12-28-2011, 04:28 AM
Something tells me the Opel mini minvan--forget the name--would have been the better move. The styling of this is fussy and has Equinox cues. Not good.

I love how we're all coming to these conclusions having seen only half the car.

Naga Royal Guard
12-28-2011, 05:10 AM
Now SV! That is a time honored tradition here at CSS dating back to 2004...

pjl35
12-28-2011, 05:23 AM
I love how we're all coming to these conclusions having seen only half the car.

We're not talking about looks...we're talking about size. No need to jump to any conclusions when we can now see how big this vehicle is actually going to be.

swizzle
12-28-2011, 02:11 PM
I love how we're all coming to these conclusions having seen only half the car.

When the half that is seen has issues....

Blackraven
01-04-2012, 07:33 AM
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2012/01/buick-encore-teaser-3.jpg

swizzle
01-04-2012, 02:22 PM
With 3/4 of it showing (and not wanting to hurt the delicate sensibilities of SV and Naga Royal Guard who are apparently incapable to deriving any sense of their opinions of the styling of anything other than the complete vehicle) the look is not improving one little bit. It looks confused and busy.

DoMiNo
01-04-2012, 03:07 PM
Very busy and with none of the near-premium feel I'd expect of a Buick, but then in expanding the range I suppose that's no surprise. I smell a very slow seller.

Ascariss
01-04-2012, 03:47 PM
How big is this? seems small like corsa sized, but not really sure, can't judge much at this point in time.

IcedG35
01-04-2012, 06:40 PM
this looks cheap to me. especially the rear, which from that angle, looks like a nissan. small wheels only make it worse. take away the xenon headlights, and i'd swear it was a suzuki or something.

boston
01-04-2012, 06:56 PM
this looks cheap to me. especially the rear, which from that angle, looks like a nissan. small wheels only make it worse. take away the xenon headlights, and i'd swear it was a suzuki or something.

Front door shut lines mimic the Chevrolet Sonic.

How big is this? seems small like corsa sized, but not really sure, can't judge much at this point in time.

Looks like the smallest Buick ever....

swizzle
01-05-2012, 02:17 AM
Supposedly it's Sonic based

chef211
01-05-2012, 03:01 AM
Supposedly it's Sonic based

Gamma II based supposedly.

Sonic is based on a entirely different platform.

mario_128
01-05-2012, 03:06 AM
This is the same size as the ecosport? Rip off for US seeing as in oz it will be a holden or opel

TdeV
01-05-2012, 03:17 AM
For some reason it reminds me of the VUE. I know it's not the same size, but style wise pretty similar.

chef211
01-05-2012, 03:20 AM
This is the same size as the ecosport? Rip off for US seeing as in oz it will be a holden or opel

I don't know, Encore = Juke i think

Ecosport is for upcoming countries and will NOT be sold in the US.

2o6
01-05-2012, 04:30 AM
Gamma II based supposedly.

Sonic is based on a entirely different platform.

No it's not. Sonic is Gamma II.


I don't know, Encore = Juke i think

Ecosport is for upcoming countries and will NOT be sold in the US.


Ecosport, Juke and Encore will all be the same size; B-segment SUV's. And I wouldn't write off the Ecosport just yet, the Escape is pretty big now, and the Juke sells well despite it's styling. I think a small Ecosport could work.

swizzle
01-05-2012, 02:38 PM
No it's not. Sonic is Gamma II....Ecosport, Juke and Encore will all be the same size; B-segment SUV's. And I wouldn't write off the Ecosport just yet, the Escape is pretty big now, and the Juke sells well despite it's styling. I think a small Ecosport could work.

I agree. It wouldn't have to sell a lot to be viable. If priced right, it would be a good first car, a "toad" (vehicles towed behind motorhomes), or a daily driver while your keep your Boss302 Laguna Seca for the weekends.

exl500
01-10-2012, 03:26 PM
http://www.autoblog.com/2012/01/10/2013-buick-encore-detroit-2012/

JBlair
01-10-2012, 10:51 PM
Ugh. So messy, and so wrong in so many different ways.

against the wall
01-10-2012, 10:54 PM
i think their first mistake was making it a buick lol

SV
01-10-2012, 11:57 PM
It makes sense as an Opel, but not as a Buick. Too small and likely too cheap. As for the styling, it's rather heavy-looking but I don't mind it.

exl500
01-11-2012, 01:00 AM
My guess is its main market is intended to be China, and to see what happens here in the U.S.

boston
04-03-2012, 06:31 PM
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pjl35
04-03-2012, 07:02 PM
i have a very strong feeling this will be a dud in the US

DATSUN
04-04-2012, 06:36 AM
i have a very strong feeling this will be a dud in the US

Agreed. It will be forgotten soon after release.

pjl35
03-22-2016, 09:15 PM
2017 facelift goes official:

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-WNATDFsCWHo/VvF_RwiWjaI/AAAAAAAAlbQ/gS7nqSq4poYn-Qg2APWQeHgNk7MZpu_Gg/s1600/buick-unveils-2017-encore-fl-6.jpg

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-EhwUwKeO8Q8/VvF_VlKQJCI/AAAAAAAAlbg/VP5-PINM4bUJMnYqn8c36yn2aRwrkNnqg/s800/buick-unveils-2017-encore-fl-4.jpg

http://www.carscoops.com/2016/03/buick-unveils-2017-encore-ahead-of-ny.html

Swallow Doretti
03-22-2016, 09:44 PM
i have a very strong feeling this will be a dud in the US

Heh...funny to see that prediction now, considering it's the second-best selling vehicle in the class, after the Soul.

paranoidgarliclover
03-23-2016, 07:17 AM
I really like what Buick is doing w/ its interiors nowadays. I just hope fit and finish are appropriate to the pricing....

pjl35
03-23-2016, 01:08 PM
Heh...funny to see that prediction now, considering it's the second-best selling vehicle in the class, after the Soul.

Haha I know, right? I had to laugh at that myself when that was one of the last things posted in this thread before my revival of it with the facelift.

Who has two thumbs and called it wrong? This guy.

pjl35
03-23-2016, 01:08 PM
I really like what OPEL is doing w/ its interiors nowadays. I just hope fit and finish are appropriate to the pricing....

Fixed. :)

mick78
03-23-2016, 01:49 PM
Fixed. :)

Indeed. And whilst Opel (Vauxhall, Buick) did receive some criticism for the button count on their center stacks (though personally I still find a physical button easier to operate for most functions), the build quality hasn't been in question for a while.

Having sat in the new Astra (with which this seems to share a lot of it#s interior, despite the platform is a different one), it doesn't set new standards in terms of materials (or visually your heart at fire, at least in the "all dark grey/black mid spec" version), but everything is screwed together well, and has nice tactile surfaces. Easily up with the best in this segment....

paranoidgarliclover
03-23-2016, 03:49 PM
Fixed. :)

Oh, whatever. ;)

I'm like every other potential U.S. customer that doesn't realize that every Buick's an Opel and that Buick sells more cars in China than it does in its home country. :(

Crash
03-23-2016, 05:51 PM
GM has another winner on their hands.

10 years ago I NEVER would have considered a GM product - now we own a Gen 1 Volt (awesome car!).

Further to this:
- Malibu (which looks quite nice in person)
- Camaro
- Vette
- Cruze (not an embarrassment anymore for GM!)
- Impala (yup - great car! A friend just bought one, and it's pretty nice)

On one nameplate - GM has done more than FCA has done across the board. I was a fan of Sergio when he came on board - not so much now....why do I mention this? Well, it's the NY Auto Show - what is FCA showing NEW??

swizzle
03-23-2016, 06:31 PM
GM and Ford are on game and Sergio is bumbling.

There is a reason GM ran like hell from its tie up with Fiat.

paranoidgarliclover
03-23-2016, 08:26 PM
GM has another winner on their hands.

10 years ago I NEVER would have considered a GM product

I'm also in the same boat. Growing up, I would've rather swallowed screws than buy a GM. Now, I'm looking forward to seeing the next-gen Regal (esp if it comes in a wagon!). Handsome and quiet interior and a soft ride w/ respectable handling sounds like a great combo to me.

While Cadillacs may handle better, I think I'd find a Buick more relaxing (and I don't know if I could deal w/ CUE). But I respect Cadillac for coming as far as it has, in terms of the products they're producing.

I just wish all mid-sized cars weren't so damn wide (I park in a very narrow spot at work).

swizzle
03-23-2016, 08:56 PM
Growing up I'd have never driven a Ford or a Hyundai either. I've owned both and have been extremely pleased at how much better the quality is over the VWAG products I used to think were so amazing.

I thought the Malibu was hideous in pictures. In person, it looks fantastic.

Even though I would not be caught dead owning a Camaro, GM has done both new Camaros exceedingly well.

A few years ago, I gave serious consideration to buying a Spark. Even though it was adapted for the USA and not designed with the USA in mind, it was a very pleasant surprise.

Last spring when I was in the market, I looked at a Colorado. It was much nicer than the Toyota Taco and with the new Taco out, I still feel the same about the Colorado. I didn't get a Colorado because they were selling so quickly that dealers only had top-of-the-line models on the lot and I didn't want to spend $38K. That said, the price wasn't ridiculous for just how good the Colorado was.