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Tidal
11-04-2011, 06:01 PM
Yin and Yang. Opel Astra OPC (http://www.netcarshow.com/opel/2013-astra_opc/) and...

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/6121/chevroletcobaltoficial1.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/153/chevroletcobaltoficial1.jpg/)

The 2012 Chevrolet Cobalt.

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/5048/chevroletcobaltoficial2.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/407/chevroletcobaltoficial2.jpg/)

( Probably ) Based on the Chevrolet Agile (http://www.netcarshow.com/chevrolet/2010-agile/), the Cobalt is 447cm long and has a huge 563l trunk.

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/6121/chevroletcobaltoficial1.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/254/chevroletcobaltoficial1.jpg/)

This is the Brasilian model, although other emerging markets may follow ( i'm pretty sure i saw spy pics of a similar car in China. Maybe a Lova replacement? )

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/1182/chevroletcobaltoficial8.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/833/chevroletcobaltoficial8.jpg/)

The 2012 Cobalt ( seen here contemplating suicide ) gets released in Brasil today, priced between 16 and 20k Euro with a 1.4L flexfuel petrol and a manual trans. Other options will be available in the future.

http://www.noticiasautomotivas.com.br/novo-chevrolet-cobalt-2012-primeiras-imagens-e-detalhes-oficiais/

SV
11-04-2011, 06:29 PM
Yuck. What an unattractive car.

Superamerica
11-04-2011, 07:33 PM
I'll be in Sao Paulo, Brazil, on December 20, so I may be able to see it in person. But again, not really looking forward to it. Also, the Brazilian market is flooded with cars in this segment, like the Volkswagen Voyage, Fiat Siena, Ford Fiesta sedan, and dozens of other nameplates.
However, given the price segment and the fact Brazil's automotive market is the 4th largest in the world, the Cobalt will likely fly off the dealer lots.

swizzle
11-04-2011, 11:51 PM
OK so two dumb questions: (1) why was the Cobalt worked over with an ugly stick and (2) why not just make the Cruze instead?

2o6
11-05-2011, 01:17 AM
This is a Cobalt in name only. It's an Aveo/Lova/Sail underneath. The Cruze is a much more expensive car at a higher price point.

pjl35
11-05-2011, 02:26 AM
This is a Cobalt in name only. It's an Aveo/Lova/Sail underneath. The Cruze is a much more expensive car at a higher price point.

larger as well.

haji
11-05-2011, 03:44 AM
my grandpa's 12 year old daihatsu mira looks much modern than this.

swizzle
11-05-2011, 05:29 AM
This is a Cobalt in name only. It's an Aveo/Lova/Sail underneath. The Cruze is a much more expensive car at a higher price point.

I thought they shipped the tooling to South America. This car is ghastly

DoMiNo
11-05-2011, 06:53 AM
I wish I'd never laid eyes on this.

caarmike
11-06-2011, 12:13 AM
I wish I'd never laid eyes on this.

Unfortunately, once viewed, this car cannot be unseen.

My question is why don't they just give Brazil the old Aveo (or the new one for that matter) instead of coming up with a totally new car?

CosworthKid
11-06-2011, 02:22 AM
Ugly for sure...its a shame some makers still associate "cheap" with "horrible design"

2o6
11-06-2011, 03:26 AM
It looks like a little no-nothing sedan for developing markets, to me. Nothing to write home about.

mick78
11-06-2011, 10:33 AM
It looks like a little no-nothing sedan for developing markets, to me. Nothing to write home about.
Agreed on that. Wohever, I keep losing tracks of teh sheer number of diffferent platforms, generations and general cars GM is producing in the "Polo/Fiesta" market around teh globe. WOuldn't, instead of making like at least 10 various derivatives of at least 3 geenratiions of COrsas, AVeos etc. (and all sold under teh Chevrolet badge, e.g COrsa, COrsa CLassic,PRisma, CelLeta, Sail, Sonic...), it make finacially more snese to devlop one proper "World" car in this sgement with the result that dveloping markets might get a nicer looking car as well?

swizzle
11-06-2011, 02:02 PM
Agreed on that. Wohever, I keep losing tracks of teh sheer number of diffferent platforms, generations and general cars GM is producing in the "Polo/Fiesta" market around teh globe. WOuldn't, instead of making like at least 10 various derivatives of at least 3 geenratiions of COrsas, AVeos etc. (and all sold under teh Chevrolet badge, e.g COrsa, COrsa CLassic,PRisma, CelLeta, Sail, Sonic...), it make finacially more snese to devlop one proper "World" car in this sgement with the result that dveloping markets might get a nicer looking car as well?

Why not just use the Spark, Sonic, and Cruze GM?

DATSUN
11-07-2011, 06:55 AM
The 2012 Cobalt ( seen here contemplating suicide ) gets released in Brasil today, priced between 16 and 20k Euro with a 1.4L flexfuel petrol and a manual trans. Other options will be available in the future.


LMAO :lol: And I wouldn't blame it. I was startled for a second after I clicked the link. That front end is atrocious.

2o6
11-07-2011, 07:12 AM
Why not just use the Spark, Sonic, and Cruze GM?

Like I just said....theyre far too expensive. You just can't magically make a Cruze be only $9000.

mHawk
11-07-2011, 12:28 PM
It does look very odd from every angle and the interior is low-rent, but its a budget priced car so you can't expect that much from it.

swizzle
11-08-2011, 01:51 AM
Like I just said....theyre far too expensive. You just can't magically make a Cruze be only $9000.

But the Spark and Sonic could

2o6
11-08-2011, 02:07 AM
But the Spark and Sonic could

No, you can't. Both are too sophisticated (especially the Sonic) for this price point.


The Chevrolet Sail starts at 9K USD, direct currency exchange, no VAT's or any other considerations for that.



The Chevrolet Cruze is more than double the price of a basic Chevrolet Celta (jn Brazil, where this car will be popular).

mick78
11-08-2011, 05:44 AM
Well, most articles claim this car will cost around 14 - 17k Euro, so actually not that cheap (by European standard), although I have no clue what Brasilian taxation is like and what that kind of money can get you there otherwise. But I still think a decontented SOnic or even COrsa could be made at that price point without the need for ugliness.......

DoMiNo
11-08-2011, 05:48 AM
I'm sure GM never thought of that.

2o6
11-08-2011, 05:54 AM
Well, most articles claim this car will cost around 14 - 17k Euro, so actually not that cheap (by European standard), although I have no clue what Brasilian taxation is like and what that kind of money can get you there otherwise. But I still think a decontented SOnic or even COrsa could be made at that price point without the need for ugliness.......

No, it can't.



A Brazillian Chevrolet Celta (most basic model they sell) when currency conversion is direct would be 16K USD; or 12K EUR.


By contrast; a basic Chevrolet Cruze would be 40K USD....or 29K EUR.

sn1572
08-17-2012, 02:22 AM
According to Autoblog Espana, the Cobalt will be sold in some European countries starting January, packed with a 1,4l 97 PS gasoline engine and a 5-speed manual transmission. Chevrolet will exhibit the model in the Moscow auto salon. It'll be a cheaper option to the Aveo sedan.

http://es.autoblog.com/2012/08/16/el-chevrolet-cobalt-llegara-a-europa-en-enero/

sn1572
08-20-2012, 03:45 AM
Official: Chevrolet Cobalt to be sold in Eastern Europe and Russia

Chevrolet's effort to offer a direct rival to the Dacia Logan and a more affordable option to the Aveo Sedan.

1.5i 16V 105 PS (103,5 hp)
5-speed manual or 6-speed automatic

ESC standard only in those countries where it's mandatory.

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/4821/7985631rucobalt123001.jpg
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/5710/798x5632rucobalt123001.jpg
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/114/798x563cobalt02.jpg

http://es.autoblog.com/2012/08/19/oficial-nuevo-chevrolet-cobalt-europeo/


Nothing like exporting our fashion trends to other markets... :lol:

StevenZoz
08-20-2012, 03:54 AM
holy huge trunk batman

2o6
08-20-2012, 04:06 AM
6AT is kinda advanced for this car.

sn1572
08-20-2012, 04:11 AM
holy huge trunk batman
The trunk is really HUGE for its size. Might be its best selling arguement.

563 litres (19.9 cubic feet).