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Tomm14
11-01-2011, 01:49 PM
Hi,


About one day earlier than scheduled, first official pics of the replacement of the current 207 have "leaked" :D
They are visible on german site http://www.autozeitung.de ;)

chef211
11-01-2011, 01:56 PM
Screams Citroen C4 to me. I think it tried to be a zombie for halloween and tried to scare us.

drugmirko
11-01-2011, 02:28 PM
sad... and I fail to se C4 in it... even C3, which would fit better due to size/platform?
there are few interesting angles and detailes on 3drs version, but all in all, another generic blob from Peugeot's new design direction... :(.
I do hope that with time, this "new" direction eventually will develop in to something nice. right now it just fat and "protozoic".

but for the benefit of a doubt I'll add this... it all might be just my negative first impression and it might look quite ok in person! it definitely looks much better build than current one and even this fact alone will leave better impression when seen alive...

CosworthKid
11-01-2011, 02:34 PM
Screams Citroen C4 to me. I think it tried to be a zombie for halloween and tried to scare us.

I don't see the C4 resemblance at all personally. In fact i hate the new C4 while i really like the 208. Its definitely nicer than the new Yaris and the Clio, and i like how the interior is at least trying to be different. The only bit i am not totally sold on is the lower grill but its not bad enough for me to spoil the entire design

mick78
11-01-2011, 02:35 PM
Apparently the pre release was ont intentional - it has disappeared form their website :devil1:

However, havong seen th epics before, it looks interesting - not beautiful - but IMO with little visual French DNA (let alone Peugeot DNA). I will not mmiss the gapping mouth, but this has zero link to any otehr Peugeot.
The interior, though classy, is a bit on the "try-hard-Honda-Civic" side...

Tomm14
11-01-2011, 02:46 PM
Apparently the pre release was ont intentional - it has disappeared form their website :devil1:

However, havong seen th epics before, it looks interesting - not beautiful - but IMO with little visual French DNA (let alone Peugeot DNA). I will not mmiss the gapping mouth, but this has zero link to any otehr Peugeot.
The interior, though classy, is a bit on the "try-hard-Honda-Civic" side...



But it's too late, many other websites already published the pictures and can be easily found on Google ;)

mick78
11-01-2011, 02:48 PM
But it's too late, many other websites already published the pictures and can be easily found on Google ;)

Sure.. But I guess tehy wanted to avoid legal action by Peugeot, as they are a proper car magazine and most liekely received the pics offcially instead of finding them on the web....

mick78
11-01-2011, 02:57 PM
http://www.autoweek.nl/autonieuws/17875/peugeot-208-aflossing

Pics in better quality...

http://media.autoweek.nl/m/m1eyxr1bp9qd.jpg
http://media.autoweek.nl/m/m1eyxr1bkkq8.jpg
http://media.autoweek.nl/m/m1eyxr6bd5qj.jpg
http://media.autoweek.nl/m/m1eyxr1bg7qa.jpg

Tidal
11-01-2011, 03:52 PM
The outside could have done with some editing. Losing the chrome window line strip on the 3 door, that little chrome line in the fog lights, the indentation on the headlights. It would look plainer, but i think it would still be interesting and would probably age better.

The interior is a huge surprise though, and i really like it, even if this is probably a top of the line version.

So, i guess i like it. It could be better, but it isn't in any way bad, doesn't look as bloated as the 207 ( it's 7 cm shorter, 100kg lighter ) and the engines should be interesting.

On a side note, can we please abstain from putting exclamation marks on thread titles? I thought that other thread had used them all up anyway, but i guess not.

DoMiNo
11-01-2011, 04:04 PM
The outside could have done with some editing. Losing the chrome window line strip on the 3 door, that little chrome line in the fog lights, the indentation on the headlights. It would look plainer, but i think it would still be interesting and would probably age better.


That's my issue with this car, as well. There just seem to be too many superfluous details that add nothing substantive to the design and seem instead intended merely to distract; the illusion of interesting design, quirkiness for quirkiness' sake. On the one hand I want to say to get rid of those things, but on the other hand I realize, as you said, that without them this would be even more boring. All that said, I'm not entirely sure of precisely which models can be considered competitors, so it's hard to say where this falls in the pack stylistically, for me. What I can say is that its likely chief competitor (at least in its domestic market), the Citroen C3, is not any better looking. So there's that, at least.

Tidal
11-01-2011, 04:11 PM
Main competitors would be the Clio, Fiesta, Corsa and Polo. Those ( together with the 20x ) are traditionally the best selling cars in this segment. The C3, Punto, i20, Rio, Mazda2, Ibiza, Fabia, Swift and Yaris are also competitors. Not exactly a style-heavy field.

DoMiNo
11-01-2011, 04:40 PM
Oh, I was under the impression the 20x was smaller than cars like the Ibiza, Fiesta, Fabia, etc.

2o6
11-01-2011, 04:41 PM
It's like a French Yaris....

Tidal
11-01-2011, 04:45 PM
Oh, I was under the impression the 20x was smaller than cars like the Ibiza, Fiesta, Fabia, etc.

Nope. 207 was actually one of the largest cars in it's class. This one is slightly smaller, just under 4m.

Rob
11-01-2011, 06:09 PM
A bit fussy for my taste really, but I much prefer the proportions of this than the 207.

DrPetrus
11-01-2011, 07:10 PM
I could be wrong but it seems like you look at the instrument cluster above the steering wheel rather than through it. I've wanted to do this for years. At 6'2/185 cm the steering wheel always comes uncomfortably high when adjusted for the instrument cluster. And I always have to adjust the seat to the lowest possible position.

As for the design, I find it to be a rather uninteresting blob of a car that they tried to make relevant by adding "interesting" bits and pieces. Of course it's a matter of personal taste but I would rather have an interesting basic design without the flares, but that's just not PSA nowadays.

CosworthKid
11-01-2011, 07:19 PM
It's like a French Yaris....

Yup! It really does look like that

SV
11-01-2011, 08:02 PM
It's a big improvement over the 207, I think. My only real issues with the design are the 5-door's less interesting sides, and the pointlessly fussy A-pillar base. The gauges inside are strangely far back too, but that may make them easier to see.

the future
11-01-2011, 08:58 PM
SEXY!!!!!!

It evokes the 206 (that itself evoked the 205) which is a VERY good thing. It's one of thoes cars that strike me right at the first pictures I see. And look at that interior! It's like Audi, just less traditional. When and where can I buy this?

mick78
11-01-2011, 09:47 PM
It's like a French Yaris....

Really that is what it seems like. A Yaris with more chi chi. But a Yaris.

I could be wrong but it seems like you look at the instrument cluster above the steering wheel rather than through it. I've wanted to do this for years. At 6'2/185 cm the steering wheel always comes uncomfortably high when adjusted for the instrument cluster. And I always have to adjust the seat to the lowest possible position.

That was their intention, according to the later disappeared Autozeitung article. To look at the instruments more like you would look at a HUD, so your eyes have to change focus less. Kind of waht TOyota tried with the first gen Yaris instruments, which brings us back to French Yaris.

However, given that the smaller brothers 107 and Aygo were codeveloped, probably this could bring some explaination....

Given that the 206 is still in production, it will be interesting to see how many generations of small Peugeots will be produced parallel ;-)

CosworthKid
11-01-2011, 10:45 PM
Main competitors would be the Clio, Fiesta, Corsa and Polo. Those ( together with the 20x ) are traditionally the best selling cars in this segment. The C3, Punto, i20, Rio, Mazda2, Ibiza, Fabia, Swift and Yaris are also competitors. Not exactly a style-heavy field.

I beg to differ, there is plenty of style in the supermini segment

swizzle
11-02-2011, 01:19 AM
I beg to differ, there is plenty of style in the supermini segment

Indeed. The segment is hardly dull. The Fiesta and Accent are quite fetching in person to name two and the Sonic looks pretty cool too.

DoMiNo
11-02-2011, 03:30 AM
Ibiza kills this segment.

2o6
11-02-2011, 04:09 AM
Indeed. The segment is hardly dull. The Fiesta and Accent are quite fetching in person to name two and the Sonic looks pretty cool too.

I disagree, the Accent looks like crap.

drugmirko
11-02-2011, 09:06 AM
well... how ever you turn it, liking its looks or not, this might be a hell of a car!
build quality improvement is obvious even on these first photos. I bet that goes for materials used in the interior too. if they use them on current C4, C4 and DS series, I don't see the reason why they wouldn't use them on a their best selling model... and with first technical data emerging, I have to say that it sounds good!
car lost 7cm in length and 1cm in height towards it's predecessor and still gained 2cm of knee length on rear bench and 15l in boot space... but what is far more important, it lost considerable amount of weight! across the range it is a 110-175 kg lighter than 207! if you ask me, that is STAGGERING amount of weight on such a small car! the lightest version weighs only 975kg (which is the weight of my 25cm shorter C2)!!!
it will get new and small engines, starting with 1.0l and 1.2l three cylinder engines (68hp and 82hp, emissions 99 and 104 grams). diesel versions never exceed 99 grams and e-HDI scored 87g/km.
there is a rumour of 200hp GTi version...

that LCD screen on central console is a touch screen and (what I find much more interesting and "applaudable" ) it's steering wheel is unusually small for today's cars... its diameter is only 345mm! which sounds rather direct to me!


so... good news! I still don't like how it looks and I probably never will. I believe it will be the same as with current C4... I hated it ultimately when it pictures surfaced, but now, seeing it every day on the streets, I kind of got used to it. I still don't find it "beautiful" and I never will, but initial "repulsion" was slowly replaced with its unusual and strong character. I bet it will be the same with this "chubby" :P ...cause if we look at the design only, there are duller cars than it (Ibiza, Corsa, Yaris...), there are happier cars than it (C3), there are more dynamic cars than it (Fiesta) and there are more elegant cars than it (Polo)... but character is one thing we can't deny this new 208... ;)

and if it will ride like its new weight and steering wheel diameter suggests, being "not beautiful" is the least of its problems :)

mick78
11-02-2011, 09:23 AM
I'm sur eit is a good car, and really making a replacement smaller is a good idea in a amrekt segment where cars have grown up to 25cm in legth in the last geenration. Especially, if it is said to still offer morespace inside (okay, the 207 wasn't the most spacious in it's segment because of the rounded design), slightly more boot space and most important, a weight saving of 10-15%!!

However, the whole car lacks to me the elgance of the Peugeots of the 90ies, or - even really not being my cup of coffee, but it worked sales wise - the quirky character of later Peugeots. This could be everything, and the undeniable Yaris influence everybody sees makes me think, that after the Camryesque 508, Peugeot might want to become teh Japanese European? The interior surely also looks more like some Honda or sthg. than the elegnat high quality inetrior of the 308 or 207, but also 508.

TTo me this car just lacks something that says Peugeot. Stcik whatever badge on it, it would work. And after the nice small grille on the SR1 concept the mouth sha basically reached old gapping mouth size again....

swizzle
11-02-2011, 01:14 PM
I disagree, the Accent looks like crap.

Then again you haven't been knows exactly as one who likes Hyundais so your comment is at least in keeping with your stance.

chef211
11-02-2011, 01:18 PM
sad... and I fail to se C4 in it... even C3, which would fit better due to size/platform?
there are few interesting angles and detailes on 3drs version, but all in all, another generic blob from Peugeot's new design direction... :(.
I do hope that with time, this "new" direction eventually will develop in to something nice. right now it just fat and "protozoic".

but for the benefit of a doubt I'll add this... it all might be just my negative first impression and it might look quite ok in person! it definitely looks much better build than current one and even this fact alone will leave better impression when seen alive...

I don't see the C4 resemblance at all personally. In fact i hate the new C4 while i really like the 208. Its definitely nicer than the new Yaris and the Clio, and i like how the interior is at least trying to be different. The only bit i am not totally sold on is the lower grill but its not bad enough for me to spoil the entire design

You got to look closely at the side view.

Hint: look at curve below the window line.

chef211
11-02-2011, 01:22 PM
Promo Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGVJtZowSbw&list=PL54CF8437B5A01431&feature=plpp_play_all

drugmirko
11-02-2011, 02:23 PM
You got to look closely at the side view.

Hint: look at curve below the window line.

heh... still no... not in that curve/fold (current fashion, even Focus and i30 has something like it), and not in a general shape:


http://auto.blog.rs/gallery/108/peugeot%20208%20302111.jpg
http://media.autoweek.nl/m/m1fygidb65qa_800.jpg
http://auto.blog.rs/gallery/108/peugeot%20208%2030211111.jpg

Tomm14
11-02-2011, 02:39 PM
SEXY!!!!!!

It evokes the 206 (that itself evoked the 205) which is a VERY good thing. It's one of thoes cars that strike me right at the first pictures I see. And look at that interior! It's like Audi, just less traditional. When and where can I buy this?


At your Peugeot dealers in Switzerland by march/april 2012(more news coming at 2012 Geneva Motorshow) ;)

http://www.netcarshow.com/peugeot/2013-208/

ajprice
11-02-2011, 05:31 PM
When they do the 3dr GTi version, they should black out the chrome and put the GTi badge on that bit of trim on the rear pillar... keeping it old skool :cool:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_4WDpsfty9mg/ShJRurBX5BI/AAAAAAAAAQ0/aUF1dbWXtzw/s320/peugeot_205_1-6_gti_emblem.jpg

But they probably won't do that :)

chef211
11-02-2011, 08:43 PM
heh... still no... not in that curve/fold (current fashion, even Focus and i30 has something like it), and not in a general shape:


http://auto.blog.rs/gallery/108/peugeot%20208%20302111.jpg
http://media.autoweek.nl/m/m1fygidb65qa_800.jpg
http://auto.blog.rs/gallery/108/peugeot%20208%2030211111.jpg

It is on the 5 door, the bottom piece is it.

It's flipped.

MBsam
11-02-2011, 09:01 PM
The side sculpting on the 3-door reminds me a lot of the Kia Rio 5-door.

I love this car for some reason though. It's like it's consciously slightly contrived but it's done with a high quality look. I stop short of calling this "busy." I find the detailing delightful and that interior looks very well done. It's nice to see what looks like a well resolved touchscreen placement.

2o6
11-02-2011, 09:59 PM
Then again you haven't been knows exactly as one who likes Hyundais so your comment is at least in keeping with your stance.

I think the Elantra looks good, but the rest of the lineup is odd looking and strange.




The Accent looks like crap, especially the hatchback.

drugmirko
11-03-2011, 10:31 AM
It is on the 5 door, the bottom piece is it.

It's flipped.
I'm not trying to make fun out of you or something, but I still can't see it :( :

http://auto.blog.rs/gallery/108/peugeot%20208%2030211.jpg
http://media.autoweek.nl/m/m1ayqcobp9v6_800.jpg

mick78
11-03-2011, 11:13 AM
Neither can I. Those 2 cars share IMO not more visual similarities than any other cars in those segments. Some general details popular in modern design, but not that similar. And again, form that angle, the 208 has a lot of Yaris, whilst the C4 has a bit of bulky boxyness, together with the straight 3rd side window looks a bit back heavy as the 5 door Fiat Stilo did...

SV
11-03-2011, 02:38 PM
Then again you haven't been knows exactly as one who likes Hyundais so your comment is at least in keeping with your stance.

I wouldn't go as far as 2o6 but I think the Accent looks very much like a Chinese Fiesta knockoff. The similarities between the two are about as great as can be without violating copyright law.

Back to the 208, though; I'm liking it alot. I'm most impressed that it's so much lighter than the 207, which was a real porker for its class, yet the 208 looks more solid and expensive.

kallepetri
11-03-2011, 07:48 PM
5HB: Dampers on the sides the same kind as the dampers on sides of opel

chef211
11-03-2011, 10:42 PM
I'm not trying to make fun out of you or something, but I still can't see it :( :

http://auto.blog.rs/gallery/108/peugeot%20208%2030211.jpg
http://media.autoweek.nl/m/m1ayqcobp9v6_800.jpg

Look at the little crease between the doors.

2o6
11-03-2011, 11:30 PM
That is a very tiny crease; something that won't even be remotely similar between the two cars in real life. Heck, you could say the fact that they both have four wheels makes them extremely similar!

ROBonCARS
03-14-2012, 01:36 PM
Well here it is, the first 3 Peugeot 208 road tests by Autocar, Autoexpress and Top Gear. I think overall these aren't bad reviews and can't wait to get my hands on one in May!

http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/...chback/261801/ (http://www.autocar.co.uk/CarReviews/FirstDrives/Peugeot-208-1.6-e-HDi-115-3dr-Hatchback/261801/)

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/firstdrives/280138/peugeot_208_ehdi.html

http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/peugeot-208-first-drive-2012-03-14

omoderncultureo
03-16-2012, 04:23 PM
2012 Peugeot 208 New Photo Gallery

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7199/6841183746_e6e5d6b35c_z.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7058/6841269988_c116eb5e21_z.jpg

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7064/6987374647_f8f155dc25_z.jpg


More Photos (http://www.flickr.com/photos/upcomingvehiclesx/sets/72157629171428014/)

SV
03-18-2012, 12:42 AM
Peugeot did a really good job with this car. Some of the details seem almost willfully quirky, but the overall effect is convincingly upscale.

ROBonCARS
06-20-2012, 08:40 AM
I attended the 208 UK launch on Monday at MediaCity (Manchester), I drove the 1.2 3-cyl 82bhp VTi and a 1.6 120 bhp - I was pleasantly surprised having read mixed reactions in various mags.


The ride in true French tradition is ultra smooth and well damped to a point, only really rutted roads upset it slightly but no more than a Fiesta/Polo. The handling is fairly tight with decent turn-in, steering feel is missing the last 15% of feel but again its not atall bad.



In terms of styling, its a very neat design in the metal and is nice that its small and more athletic than before (not difficult really). It's very wheel sensitive but on the 15"/16" rims it looked very nice indeed.


Interior space is very impressive, its very roomy in the back and the boot is a good size. The design is very modern but build quality is mainly very good but slightly lacking in some areas that you will come into contact with on a daily basis. The small steering wheel / dial combo actually was the biggest surprise. I am 5'11 and could sit comfortably without any obstruction of the dials- it really does feel different an sporty in this area.


Of the two engines I tried the 3 cylinder 1.2 was most impressive, it sounded great, had plenty of punch - I seriously question the 14.4 secs to 60mph! The 1.6 120bhp unit was a let down - not especially quick and sounded course/strained.


The full lowdown on both will be on RMOC (www.RobMcSorleyonCARS.com (http://www.RobMcSorleyonCARS.com)) very soon

haji
09-03-2012, 09:42 AM
200hp, 1160kgs.
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ROBonCARS
09-03-2012, 10:25 AM
Finally! A Pug GTi with an engine worthy of the name....last week I drove the RCZ with this engine and that was pretty swift..this should fly...although 7 seconds isnt as quick as I would have thought...:)