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Sakrileg
01-10-2011, 08:18 PM
2012 Toyota Prius v

http://i53.tinypic.com/nm1egn.jpg

http://i55.tinypic.com/m8fzir.jpg

http://i51.tinypic.com/23mmqt1.jpg

anonms
01-10-2011, 08:28 PM
It needs a third row seat option. I'm disappointed that it doesn't have such an option, actually. It looks kinda.... awkward at some points, as well.

That said, I find it slightly amusing that this and the C-Max Hybrid were introduced within a day of each other. I guess the hybrid MPV segment will actually have competitors now, eh?

cowboysnkisses
01-10-2011, 08:57 PM
It needs a third row seat option. I'm disappointed that it doesn't have such an option, actually. It looks kinda.... awkward at some points, as well.

That said, I find it slightly amusing that this and the C-Max Hybrid were introduced within a day of each other. I guess the hybrid MPV segment will actually have competitors now, eh?

the C-Max will easily eat its lunch. This is truly ugly.

anonms
01-10-2011, 09:04 PM
the C-Max will easily eat its lunch. This is truly ugly.

I'll wait until I see it in person. Most of the Toyotas that look atrocious in pictures look passable, if not reasonably decent, in person IMO (except the facelifted Corolla. I had a sneak preview when I was in Taiwan and goodness it's even more awkward than the pre-facelifted version).

I'm also pretty sure pricing will be a factor between the two.

haji
01-11-2011, 12:18 AM
real life pics from the show
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2012-toyota-prius-v-detroit-2011/
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2011/01/01-toyota-prius-v-live.jpg

MtViewGuy188
01-11-2011, 01:16 AM
It will be VERY interesting to compare the Prius v against the Ford C-Max Hybrid, which is coming in 2012 as a 2013 model.

Nice as the Prius v is, in my opinion I still think the styling still screams a tad too much "science experiment car" and "geek car" and it could lose sales to the C-Max Hybrid.

SV
01-11-2011, 02:24 AM
It looks like a regular Prius with cancer. Or an eating disorder. Or both.

C-Max hybrid, please.

DoMiNo
01-11-2011, 03:56 AM
Awkward and pointless. A larger Prius with no extra seats? Really??

joeyo
01-11-2011, 04:49 AM
Eh...seems pretty redundant. Are Prius owners really that into having 50% more cargo space? I'll take a C-Max Hybrid over this, ANY day.

ndjan
01-11-2011, 05:30 AM
Awkward and pointless. A larger Prius with no extra seats? Really??

It's for the adventerous tree-huggers who need room for another tent. Yeah, this isn't gonna sell.

anonms
01-11-2011, 06:12 AM
It's for the adventerous tree-huggers who need room for another tent. Yeah, this isn't gonna sell.

If Toyota wisens up and shoehorns in a third-row seat, I'm sure its chances of being successful on the market would increase by a LOT.

Reppu
01-11-2011, 09:56 AM
This car is a missed oportunity for Toyota. Not only it is ugly, it is also bad conceptually. Without a third seats row, and with such an average fuel consuption, it does not have a chance against the mid sized vans in Europe (i am talking about C-Max, Picasso, Scenic, Touran and the likes). All of them have diesel engines with the same or more power, and less fuel consumption.

To be a winner, this car would have to be much bigger, to be a competitor on the upper van category (S-Max, Espace, etc). It's mpg figures would then be competitive, and so far it would be alone on the hybrid market for that size.

mick78
01-11-2011, 11:27 AM
Third row seating is not an option, as the floor of the boot is very high thanks to the battery pack. It would need a Leaf or ampera like platform to btter distribute the battery pack. However, in it's current shape this car is redundant. Split rear seats? Not even soemthing like slideable individual seats or somethinng comarable? Seriously, Space and versatility wise, this will not compete with C-Max or Ppicasso or Touran, but rather Focus etsate, 308 SW or GOlf estate. Which offer in TDI etc. shape even better milleage and performance. And all of them look better.

Probably it might find customers in the US where those cars are not on offer (though I think you can have a Jetta estate TDI, right?), but in Europe this seems wrong in many ways.

swizzle
01-11-2011, 02:02 PM
I find its proportions better than the regular Prius, but still not exactly attractive. What was Toyota going after? This should have been more mini minivan. Third row seating in a vehicle this small would be suitable only for amputees so losing pretend seats is no big deal. I'm not seeing a sales success here.

mick78
01-11-2011, 03:21 PM
I find its proportions better than the regular Prius, but still not exactly attractive. What was Toyota going after? This should have been more mini minivan. Third row seating in a vehicle this small would be suitable only for amputees so losing pretend seats is no big deal. I'm not seeing a sales success here.



Although 3rd row seating seems alibi.in 99% of the vehicles in this segment, not offering it seems bit of a deal breaker , at least in Europe. It's not a coincidence that the 2nd gen. C-Max now offers the Grand model as well, even if it is tight.

Reppu
01-11-2011, 04:00 PM
Probably it might find customers in the US where those cars are not on offer [...], but in Europe this seems wrong in many ways.

This is exactly what i was trying to say. I totally agree. I belive it will be sold in very few numbers, and probably only just for it's hybrid-ness.

CosworthKid
01-11-2011, 07:13 PM
Wow, did not expect it to look this bad. Among the worst on show along with the 2 Hyundais

ndjan
01-12-2011, 07:00 AM
Third row seating is not an option, as the floor of the boot is very high thanks to the battery pack. It would need a Leaf or ampera like platform to btter distribute the battery pack. However, in it's current shape this car is redundant. Split rear seats? Not even soemthing like slideable individual seats or somethinng comarable? Seriously, Space and versatility wise, this will not compete with C-Max or Ppicasso or Touran, but rather Focus etsate, 308 SW or GOlf estate. Which offer in TDI etc. shape even better milleage and performance. And all of them look better.

Probably it might find customers in the US where those cars are not on offer (though I think you can have a Jetta estate TDI, right?), but in Europe this seems wrong in many ways.

They REALLY should have Lithiums for this car. Seeing that Toyota considers itself the pioneer of hybrid technology, I'm surprised. That would have solved the third row issue, the economy issue and the power issue. I wouldn't be surprised if the accelration on this thing will approach the low teens.

Sakrileg
02-08-2011, 08:43 AM
Will be called Prius + in Europe and will be sold with 7 seats.

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/3810/prius18687.jpg

The Prius+, also debuting at the 2011 Geneva Motor Show, is a further expansion of the
Prius family. The Prius+ is the first car to offer European customers the versatility of 7
seats combined with a full hybrid powertrain. As its name suggests, the Prius+ provides
a significant increase in space and passenger accommodation, while sacrificing none of
the traditional attributes found in the Prius DNA, such as the lowest fuel consumption
of any 7-seat MPV on the market.

Source: Toyota's press release

anonms
02-08-2011, 09:03 AM
The third row needs to be an option in the US.

Does this mean the Prius C will be the Prius - in Europe?

the1
02-08-2011, 09:40 AM
What do you mean? We get the 'normal' Prius as well.

CosworthKid
02-08-2011, 09:44 AM
It looks like a regular Prius with cancer. Or an eating disorder. Or both.

C-Max hybrid, please.

My feelings exactly

Sakrileg
02-08-2011, 10:23 AM
The third row needs to be an option in the US.

Does this mean the Prius C will be the Prius - in Europe?

I don't know if Prius C would make it here. We'll get the Yaris HSD though. They might not be really different cars from eachother.

ndjan
02-10-2011, 10:57 PM
I think the Prius+ is an LWB PriusV

Sakrileg
02-11-2011, 03:50 PM
I think the Prius+ is an LWB PriusV

I don't think it is LWB because Toyota's other 7 passenger MPV in Europe (Verso) is even shorter. I think it is same with V.

haji
03-09-2011, 04:08 AM
JDM Prius Space Concept
http://car.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20110309_432016.html
http://car.watch.impress.co.jp/img/car/docs/432/016/p09.jpg
http://car.watch.impress.co.jp/img/car/docs/432/016/p19.jpg
http://car.watch.impress.co.jp/img/car/docs/432/016/p21.jpg
http://car.watch.impress.co.jp/img/car/docs/432/016/p23.jpg
http://car.watch.impress.co.jp/img/car/docs/432/016/p30.jpg

pjl35
03-09-2011, 05:43 AM
Wait...why on Earth is it a concept when it looks like it's simply the Prius V or the Prius+ ?

anonms
03-09-2011, 05:51 AM
No clue, but Toyota really ought to have equipped the USDM Prius V with the lithium ion battery and third row seat.

CosworthKid
03-09-2011, 09:00 AM
JDM Prius Space Concept
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...because in Space no one can hear you snooze

haji
03-09-2011, 11:55 AM
Wait...why on Earth is it a concept when it looks like it's simply the Prius V or the Prius+ ?

seems to be that, when the product is shown to public long before the scheduled release date, it is customary for manufacturers to show it as a "concept".
I've seen similar cases with other cars before.

boston
03-09-2011, 06:39 PM
seems to be that, when the product is shown to public long before the scheduled release date, it is customary for manufacturers to show it as a "concept".
I've seen similar cases with other cars before.

Its certainly Honda's favorite way forward. Most recently with the Civic.

As for this Prius, it shows a total lack of imagination in comparison to the "normal" version.

haji
05-13-2011, 01:18 PM
JDM Prius alpha
http://car.watch.impress.co.jp/img/car/docs/445/518/07.jpg
http://car.watch.impress.co.jp/img/car/docs/445/518/14.jpg
http://car.watch.impress.co.jp/img/car/docs/445/518/24.jpg
http://car.watch.impress.co.jp/img/car/docs/445/518/15.jpg
http://car.watch.impress.co.jp/img/car/docs/445/518/16.jpg
http://car.watch.impress.co.jp/img/car/docs/445/518/03.jpg
http://toyota.jp/priusalpha/index.html

haji
05-13-2011, 02:14 PM
Styling Package
http://toyota.jp/priusalpha/dop/package/image/001_p_001/main01.jpg
http://toyota.jp/priusalpha/dop/package/image/001_p_001/main02.jpg
Modellista
http://toyota.jp/customize/priusalpha/modellista/image/main2.jpg
http://toyota.jp/customize/priusalpha/modellista/image/main3.jpg
http://toyota.jp/customize/priusalpha/modellista/image/main4.jpg
http://toyota.jp/customize/priusalpha/modellista/image/main5.jpg
http://toyota.jp/priusalpha/001_p_001/distribute/index.html

Welcab
http://toyota.jp/welcab/priusalpha/image/priusalpha_1.jpg
http://toyota.jp/welcab/priusalpha/index.html

Naga Royal Guard
05-29-2011, 04:41 PM
those styling packages just arent REI or Ron Jon enough for the target NA audiences

effew
05-29-2011, 10:04 PM
Needs a machine gun. Then it would be cool.

Naga Royal Guard
05-29-2011, 10:23 PM
the combustion gas from said machine gun is probably dirtier than what little registers from the prius' IC engine

CosworthKid
05-29-2011, 11:32 PM
The Modellista one ain't bad

the1
06-01-2011, 02:30 PM
It's ok. I get a Ford S-Max vibe looking at it.

haji
06-20-2011, 09:28 AM
more real life pics
http://car.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/impression/20110620_451574.html
http://car.watch.impress.co.jp/img/car/docs/451/574/p06.jpg

Ascariss
06-20-2011, 10:12 AM
I agree the modellista is not that bad, the white one is quite nice.

the painted A pillar in version A is fail, this is a bad idea. I do wonder how tight the 3rd row seats are, it is obvious they were added to better compete in europe, I doubt the 3rd row will be an option in the US. I don't think the average sized american would fit into the 3rd row :P

haji
06-20-2011, 10:16 AM
I agree the modellista is not that bad, the white one is quite nice.

the painted A pillar in version A is fail, this is a bad idea. I do wonder how tight the 3rd row seats are, it is obvious they were added to better compete in europe, I doubt the 3rd row will be an option in the US. I don't think the average sized american would fit into the 3rd row :P

yeah the third row must be tight, but it seems acceptable.
http://car.watch.impress.co.jp/img/car/docs/451/574/p36.jpg

anonms
06-21-2011, 01:32 AM
I'd imagine it'd be close to the Verso's in size, it's a similar platform.

MtViewGuy188
06-21-2011, 04:15 AM
I'd imagine it'd be close to the Verso's in size, it's a similar platform.

This is why I think the Prius V is built on the same platform used by the European-market Verso wagon. Indeed, the seating arrangements for the JDM/European version Prius v is pretty much the same as the Verso--five full-sized adults plus two smaller passengers in the third row.

caarmike
06-21-2011, 11:59 AM
Without the 3rd row I'm not sure what the point would be. It would be just like a regular Prius with a little more cargo room.

swizzle
06-21-2011, 02:58 PM
Instead of the falling roofline, they should have just made a station wagon. In the end I'm not sure what the purpose was in creating a bloated Prius.

anonms
06-21-2011, 07:22 PM
This is why I think the Prius V is built on the same platform used by the European-market Verso wagon. Indeed, the seating arrangements for the JDM/European version Prius v is pretty much the same as the Verso--five full-sized adults plus two smaller passengers in the third row.

It is the same platform, but I don't know about dimensions. The Verso uses the Corolla's platform, which the Prius and Prius a/v/+ share.

Voyager
07-18-2011, 01:31 AM
I'd imagine it'd be close to the Verso's in size, it's a similar platform.

I read somewhere the space is bigger than in Verso.

spwolf
07-22-2011, 02:27 AM
Without the 3rd row I'm not sure what the point would be. It would be just like a regular Prius with a little more cargo room.
pretty much like asking why people buy camry when you have corolla.... it has 60% more cargo space and also more space in the interior.

spwolf
07-22-2011, 02:30 AM
It is the same platform, but I don't know about dimensions. The Verso uses the Corolla's platform, which the Prius and Prius a/v/+ share.
20+ cars share MC platform... regular Prius and Verso and very similar, and this Prius v shares same wheelbase as new Verso.

Verso is available as both 5 and 7 seater in Europe, and most people get 5 seat version.

Blackraven
07-22-2011, 04:56 PM
20+ cars share MC platform... regular Prius and Verso and very similar, and this Prius v shares same wheelbase as new Verso.

Verso is available as both 5 and 7 seater in Europe, and most people get 5 seat version.

Same as Japan (both 5 seat and 7 seat versions are available). Only NA-bound models are 5-seat only.

haji
04-08-2013, 01:14 PM
2013 Daihatsu Mebius
http://car.watch.impress.co.jp/img/car/docs/594/965/m01.jpg
http://car.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20130408_594965.html

pjl35
11-19-2014, 06:51 PM
2015 Facelift:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-uWmGf818uW8/VGzG3QKHhoI/AAAAAAAAQp0/Gr5yxfYIMbE/s1600/2015-Toyota-Prius-v-0.jpg

http://www.carscoops.com/2014/11/2015-toyota-prius-v-updated-to-look.html

swizzle
11-20-2014, 02:16 AM
And they made ugly even uglier

mick78
11-20-2014, 09:12 AM
And they made ugly even uglier

Well said.

Just imagine that buying bankrupt Bertone would have cost Toyota probably less than they spend on Ketchup in their factory restaurants every day, but what effect that could have on the design (well, currently not existent) of their cars.....