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Charger
12-06-2005, 03:37 PM
**pics removed**<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Charger at 8:24 AM 12/7/2005</i>

Ascariss
12-06-2005, 04:01 PM
Personally I love it.<p>It does seem to be a full scale clay model of the car, notice the 2 different styles, although subtle, they are different. This is what modern retro should look like, just like the new stang, not what dodge is doing with the challenger.<p>Something tells me GM won't be happy this leaked, and surely this will hit the presses no doubt.

62Lincoln
12-06-2005, 04:06 PM
Looks good. If this is on the Solstice chassis, what size might it be?<p>Shouldn't this be in the concept section?

CarMattZu777
12-06-2005, 04:39 PM
ahhh Gm took them off.

FordRules
12-06-2005, 05:37 PM
It looks like a Caddy in the front kinda.

against the wall
12-06-2005, 06:00 PM
i dont care what people think it looks like, it looks sexy. period.

ndjan
12-06-2005, 09:44 PM
Oh God, I'm not a Chevy fan, but I think that's totally hot. <br>I'm was also not a fan of the nu-retro phase cars went through, but this 70's musclecar resurgence is a true blessing.

Pavilion
12-06-2005, 11:31 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen, I introduce you to my next car.<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/driver.gif" BORDER="0">

knihc2008
12-07-2005, 12:32 AM
i, a rabid hater of american retro cars, am in love with this car. thanks for making a believer out of me, chevy. *salutes*

mzoltarp
12-07-2005, 06:19 AM
You know Ford has to be planning a revised Mustang for the Camaro/Challenger fight. This looks like a lot of fun on the way

mzoltarp
12-07-2005, 06:26 AM
They need to get it to market at the right price point and without diluting the styling. IF they can do that, they will have a winner on their hands.

Nine Ball
12-07-2005, 06:50 AM
If any moderators read this thread, please delete the images. GM was very pissed off that these leaked out, and may threaten legal action to any site that is hosting them. We had them on our site for an hour and were contacted to remove them.<p>Thanks,<br>Tony @ LS1TECH.com

62Lincoln
12-07-2005, 06:52 AM
I think there's more to this than two different noses. This appears to be a traditional styling buck done in clay. It is common to have different styles on each side of the clay model, with the styles carried over to each half of the front and rear. That might be what is going on here. Note the roof, top of the windshield, and top of the rear window. It's a shame that we don't have a shot of the other side. It would be interesting to see the subtle differences being contemplated.

Supremus
12-07-2005, 07:00 AM
Also, note that some people at the GM boards claim this is a pre-2002 interation, and that the concept to be shown at NAIAS 2006 will be different from this.

Ascariss
12-07-2005, 11:24 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Nine Ball</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If any moderators read this thread, please delete the images. GM was very pissed off that these leaked out, and may threaten legal action to any site that is hosting them. We had them on our site for an hour and were contacted to remove them.<p>Thanks,<br>Tony @ LS1TECH.com</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Sadly we were not hosting them unlike you, someone hosted them up onto imageshack, and none had a <A HREF="http://www.carspyshots.net" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carspyshots.net</A> url on them.

knihc2008
12-07-2005, 02:26 PM
taking bets on how long this will take to be an autospies exclusive.

galv
12-07-2005, 05:25 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Ascariss</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just like the new stang, not what dodge is doing with the challenger.<p>Something tells me GM won't be happy this leaked, and surely this will hit the presses no doubt.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>i personally think the mustang was too retro....i cant see the picture here but can i expect the picture to show up in o iunno......motor trend?

mzoltarp
12-08-2005, 06:15 AM
The Mustang desperately needed to go retro to recaptuure the spirit of the line. The Fox based Mustangs diluted the image tremendously because none really looked like mustangs. Now that Ford has reestablished the Mustang's heriitage and now that its selling like hotcakes, the will be able to begin evolving it. I think Dodge and Chevy wil trade on retro to reestablish their pony cars too.

ndjan
12-08-2005, 02:21 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knihc2008</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">taking bets on how long this will take to be an autospies exclusive.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>HAHA <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0">

against the wall
12-09-2005, 08:27 AM
some gm guy on c+g said its ok to repost them. they are on c and g in a camaro thread.

Andre
12-09-2005, 09:56 AM
link to that thread on CG, we were informed GM Legal is threatening any site which posts them.

against the wall
12-09-2005, 11:56 AM
<A HREF="http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3778" TARGET="_blank">http://www.cheersandgears.com/...=3778</A>

galv
12-09-2005, 03:00 PM
now that ive seen it:<p>1)this car isnt too retro<br>2)i hope the interior isnt too retro (i doubt it will)<br>3)on the clay model i prefer the right side with its circular fog lights (looks more camaro-ish)

Santeno
12-09-2005, 04:11 PM
I like the overall design (It emulates my favorite camaro design ever). However, I can't say I'm all that impressed about GM following Ford's cue and going back to the late 60's to find a design worthy of using.

Gian86
12-09-2005, 10:09 PM
This concept will be based on zeta (starting with Holden VE Commodore next year) which is the next gen camaro, pontiac gto and buick convertible will be based on. I love the look on that concept, it would look like dodge challenger concept next year and both will look retro.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Gian86 at 3:20 PM 12/10/2005</i>

galv
12-10-2005, 11:54 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Andre</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">link to that thread on CG, we were informed GM Legal is threatening any site which posts them.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>the pictures have been taken down from CG

caarmike
12-11-2005, 07:49 AM
It looks like we're not going to see the photos again. I don't have them but, I've seen them. For those who missed them here's a brief description:<br><li>It has a unified grille and headight setup recalling the original 67-69 design. The grille is thin, low-slung- and sloped back with a Chevy emblem in a bar going through the middle.<br><li>The beltline is direct from the 67-69 Camaro, it slopes down a little through the doors, and then there is a pronounced kick-up right behind the b-pillar.<br><li>There are a lot of moldings and accent lines and an airscoop (or at least a fake one) on the side of the car.<br><li>The roofline is much flatter than the original Camaro. The roofline continues uninterrupted several inches past the b-pillar, before sloping down towards the trunk. This car is a pure notchback, not a fastback or hatchback.<br><li>The rear is very Corvette-like with four rounded-rectangle tailghts mounted very high up. However the bumper bulges out much more than on a Corvette.<br><li> All in all its strongly resembles these renderings at Popular Hot Rodding: <A HREF="http://www.popularhotrodding.com/features/0409phr_camaro" TARGET="_blank">http://www.popularhotrodding.com/features/0409phr_camaro</A><br>The big differnece is the roofline slope.

ROCKETMAN
12-17-2005, 01:29 PM
uuuum, i know where i can get these pics. Do ppl wanna see them? And if so, where should i post them?

Ascariss
12-17-2005, 01:50 PM
No, no posting of any links.

knihc2008
12-17-2005, 06:52 PM
can i draw what i remember of the photos? :D

ROCKETMAN
12-17-2005, 11:50 PM
how come this one site still has them on their forums?

ROCKETMAN
12-18-2005, 09:43 PM
ok, how about if i link another forum?

knicks125
12-19-2005, 07:49 AM
Given the actual concept will unveil in just a few weeks, I'd say hold off until then...

ROCKETMAN
12-19-2005, 11:27 AM
Jugo je najaci!

Vltava
01-03-2006, 08:35 PM
Didn't see that anyone has posted this so...<p><A HREF="http://automobilemag.com/auto_shows/naias_2006/0601_chevrolet_camaro_concept" TARGET="_blank">http://automobilemag.com/auto_...ncept</A>/<p>I will say it looks better than the Challenger. The real test for any Camaro, though, is usually how it looks up on blocks in front of your trailer.

Gian86
01-03-2006, 08:51 PM
I did seen it before before 2005 ends, it looks bit fake but it suppost to be real. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

knicks125
01-03-2006, 09:00 PM
In the first image, looks like someone cut it in half and tried to put it back together - emphasis on the word tried <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

protocatcher
01-04-2006, 02:57 AM
@ knicks125: There are 2 different stylings on the first pic, carmakers often do that to compare different looks on the car . <br>Easier and cheaper then to do 2 cars .

Charger
01-07-2006, 08:59 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>TitanSteel</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Look what just rolled in from the Motor City. Said to be at the Detroit Auto Show:<p><A HREF="http://automobilemag.com/auto_shows/naias_2006/0601_chevrolet_camaro_concept" TARGET="_blank">http://automobilemag.com/auto_...ncept</A>/</TD></TR></TABLE>

knicks125
01-07-2006, 09:14 AM
^^^^<p>[<I>four posts up</I>]<p>EDIT: <A HREF="http://www.lsj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060107/NEWS01/601070334/1001/opinion" TARGET="_blank">http://www.lsj.com/apps/pbcs.d...inion</A><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by knicks125 at 11:29 AM 1/7/2006</i>

Charger
01-07-2006, 11:57 AM
Here it is. The front is ok, the side view is good, the back is crap. Ill take a Challenger any day.<br><A HREF="http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?section_id=15&article_id=3124" TARGET="_blank">http://www.roadandtrack.com/ar...=3124</A>

knihc2008
01-07-2006, 12:29 PM
wow, this car is beautiful. powerful stance, modern, nice and tight. i'd take this over a challenger any day.

knicks125
01-07-2006, 12:39 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knihc2008</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow, this car is beautiful. powerful stance, modern, nice and tight. i'd take this over a challenger any day.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Agreed with you on all counts, and I never thought I would say this but this is one magnificent beast <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

Pavilion
01-07-2006, 12:40 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knihc2008</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow, this car is beautiful. powerful stance, modern, nice and tight. i'd take this over a challenger any day.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>This car is looks amazing. I cant see how this car would not be a styling hit.<br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/driver.gif" BORDER="0"> :

Krypton
01-07-2006, 01:26 PM
I agree with knich2008, this has a nice retro modern fusion while the challanger is just a copy of the original

taskbearer
01-07-2006, 02:48 PM
GM torunced Chrysler design prowess. This is far more imaginatve than the challenger. Between the Mustang, the Challenger, and this. The Camaro is king. <p>The best part is that its far more compact than the overweight challenger. <p>Kudos GM!

caarmike
01-07-2006, 03:54 PM
I'm surprised at how much it looks like the leaked photo from a few weeks ago. But in real life (and in red) it looks a whole lot better. It's modern and brutal and on initial impression I like it better than both Challenger and Mustang.

piokor
01-07-2006, 08:06 PM
If anyone hasn't seen it yet, Auto Blog has the pictures from R&T (which doesn't seem to work anymore):<p><A HREF="http://www.autoblog.com/2006/01/07/road-and-tracks-video-of-the-new-chevy-camaro" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoblog.com/2006/0...amaro</A>/

Gian86
01-07-2006, 08:28 PM
That car is hot. Well done GM for making one of american legends to return. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

against the wall
01-07-2006, 08:31 PM
damn, i wish i was on to see the rest of the images. from that one image, it looks awesome. i bet automobile mag feels stupid puttin the inaccurate clay pics in their mag.

knihc2008
01-07-2006, 08:44 PM
compared to that picture and the video R&T had on, that picture is doing the car NO justice. i don't know how many of you saw the video but it looked really good on there.

Hornbag
01-07-2006, 09:27 PM
From that one picture it looks really great. Makes the Mustang look old and slightly too retro...

against the wall
01-07-2006, 09:31 PM
imagine the high performance production models of this, and the challenger, versus the gt500. what a battle that would be.

nismo
01-08-2006, 12:55 AM
Wow, well done Chevy. Its not too retro like the Charger, I'd say it right there with the Mustang styling wise.

gt1750
01-09-2006, 02:19 AM
I love it although there are too many retro designs these days (at least this one is not exactly retro)! Now I'm just waiting for Alfa Romeo going retro and bringing back 1300 GTA/ 1750 GTV :)

62Lincoln
01-09-2006, 07:14 AM
The only negative is why is GM expending so much effort on this product, which is aimed at a niche market, when they continue to allow the products aimed at the big segments to languish in mediocrity? Wouldn't it be cool as crap to see this design language applied to Chevy's sedans and crossovers?

spikes111
01-09-2006, 08:44 AM
Not bad, but in terms of cool muscle cars coming out I'd have to give the nod to the Challenger.

knicks125
01-09-2006, 08:52 AM
Exterior looks great, interior so-so...<p>Press Release: <A HREF="http://media.gm.com/us/gm/en/news/events/autoshows/06naias/concepts/06_NAIAS_Chevy_Concept.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://media.gm.com/us/gm/en/n...t.htm</A><p>From Autoweek: <A HREF="http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2006_detroit/chevy/camaro/pages/01.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoweek.com/files/...1.htm</A><p>Show pics from TCL just released: <A HREF="http://forums.thecarlounge.net/zerothread?id=2381619" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.thecarlounge.net...81619</A><p><IMG SRC="http://us.tnpv.net/2006/WKA200601/WKA2006010934640_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://us.tnpv.net/2006/WKA200601/WKA2006010934678_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://us.tnpv.net/2006/WKA200601/WKA2006010934454_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://us.tnpv.net/2006/WKA200601/WKA2006010934465_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://us.tnpv.net/2006/WKA200601/WKA2006010934444_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://us.tnpv.net/2006/WKA200601/WKA2006010934475_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://us.tnpv.net/2006/WKA200601/WKA2006010934487_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://us.tnpv.net/2006/WKA200601/WKA2006010934498_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://us.tnpv.net/2006/WKA200601/WKA2006010934520_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://us.tnpv.net/2006/WKA200601/WKA2006010934509_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Sketches:<p><IMG SRC="http://us.tnpv.net/2006/WKA200601/WKA2006010934689_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://us.tnpv.net/2006/WKA200601/WKA2006010934708_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://us.tnpv.net/2006/WKA200601/WKA2006010934700_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>More:<p><IMG SRC="http://us.tnpv.net/2006/WKA200601/WKA2006010942496_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://us.tnpv.net/2006/WKA200601/WKA2006010942505_pv.jpg" BORDER="0"><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by knicks125 at 1:03 PM 1/9/2006</i>

Monkey
01-09-2006, 09:40 AM
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knihc2008
01-09-2006, 10:52 AM
wait i thought the car was red.

knicks125
01-09-2006, 11:04 AM
Magic trick <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>No but seriously, I believe there are at least two of these...one was the exclusive video from R&T, and this one from the show.

knihc2008
01-09-2006, 11:21 AM
or maybe one went to the la auto show...<p>...hmm. time to go back to the la auto show.

CalinG7
01-09-2006, 02:13 PM
Please, please, please build it. I'll buy two. Hands down, the best-looking of the muscle cars. Better proportions than the Mustang, and not a hulking behemoth, overy-retro like the Challenger.

AM2
01-09-2006, 02:28 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CalinG7</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hands down, the best-looking of the muscle cars. Better proportions than the Mustang, and not a hulking behemoth, overy-retro like the Challenger. </TD></TR></TABLE><br>If they build it, it would probably have a longer nose and tail (legal/federalized bumpers etc) and most likely smaller 17 inch and 18 inch wheels... <br>I do hope they retain the concept car's low sporty look.<br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by AM2 at 5:47 AM 1/10/2006</i>

Gian86
01-09-2006, 05:53 PM
Very nice return with it's retro look. This will be very hard call what my favourite one of 2 american muscle car comebacks at naias. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

mzoltarp
01-10-2006, 06:35 AM
Now that the concept is public, the real question is whether GM has the capacity to deliver it to market without watering down the styling. The Mustang reamined reasonably true to its concept version. If GM can do the same with the Camaro itt will be a massive hit.

knicks125
01-10-2006, 08:29 AM
knihc2008, how's this? I believe this is at the LA autoshow, not certain though:<p><IMG SRC="http://www.autoblog.com/media/2006/01/LACamaro01-450.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Photo courtesy of Autoblog

megadethmartyr
01-10-2006, 10:25 AM
I thin I dig the Challenger more. It just looks like it's ready for production and DCX does a good job of taking concept and making it to production. This Camaro doesn't have a chance to look like this. Why you ask? Because it will go through the GM parts bin. GM will water it down and ruin a great concept because of the penny pinchers. Like the Solstice, looking forward to see how many different GM products make it into a Camaro, but strictly to laugh.

knihc2008
01-10-2006, 11:49 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">knihc2008, how's this? I believe this is at the LA autoshow, not certain though:<p><IMG SRC="http://www.autoblog.com/media/2006/01/LACamaro01-450.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Photo courtesy of Autoblog</TD></TR></TABLE><p>it looks drop dead goregous in red, thanks a lot knicks! that is the LA auto show.. i recognize the bathroom signs in the background :P

drugmirko
01-10-2006, 01:06 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Charger</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Here it is. The front is ok, the side view is good, the back is crap. Ill take a Challenger any day</TD></TR></TABLE><p>nope! not me! not even i a wildest dream! this one is simply great! and it has a manual gearbox too.... <IMG SRC="http://www.vidiauto.com/autoforum/images/smiles/smile20.gif" BORDER="0"><IMG SRC="http://www.vidiauto.com/autoforum/images/smiles/smile20.gif" BORDER="0"><IMG SRC="http://www.vidiauto.com/autoforum/images/smiles/smile20.gif" BORDER="0">! <p>it has one right? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0">

knihc2008
01-10-2006, 09:19 PM
quick question: why does no one call foul and go "wah wah chevrolet copied bmw's angel's eyes" but i GUARANTEE that if some (edit: ANY) japanese car company did that y'all would be on top of it in a flash.

JBlair
01-11-2006, 01:09 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knihc2008</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">quick question: why does no one call foul and go "wah wah chevrolet copied bmw's angel's eyes" but i GUARANTEE that if some (edit: ANY) japanese car company did that y'all would be on top of it in a flash.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I don't see angel eyes in any of the pics, all I see is light reflecting off the metal round reflector casing. Maybe if you had some pics actually showing them in action...................

knihc2008
01-11-2006, 01:16 AM
here you go kiddies.<p> <IMG SRC="http://www.gerbonium.com/various/5thgen/front1.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://www.gerbonium.com/various/5thgen/frontlow.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://www.gerbonium.com/various/5thgen/headlight.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p>source: <A HREF="http://web.camaross.com/forums/showthread.php?t=421554" TARGET="_blank">http://web.camaross.com/forums...21554</A><p>which, btw, has a lot more HOTT pics of the car in red.

JBlair
01-11-2006, 01:23 AM
my guess why nobody commented on them: I bet people didn't notice them, or know thats what they actually were. One thing that would have kept me from saying anything is that I can almost guaranee you the production version won't have them. Those are usually the bits made especially for the auto show.

mzoltarp
01-11-2006, 07:11 AM
WOW!!

velsatis
01-11-2006, 09:56 AM
Am I the only one thinking that it looks too much like the Challenger????and at lunched almost at the same time???? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/sheep.gif" BORDER="0">

Charger
01-11-2006, 09:59 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>velsatis</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Am I the only one thinking that it looks too much like the Challenger????and at lunched almost at the same time???? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/sheep.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Challenger? I thought it looked like the Mustang

velsatis
01-11-2006, 10:08 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Charger</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Challenger? I thought it looked like the Mustang</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Concept wize and timming I meant <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0">

DoMiNo
01-11-2006, 11:37 AM
Badass! Too bad I didn't see this at the LA show... must have debuted after.

against the wall
01-11-2006, 02:10 PM
do automakers usually make more than one of the same concept?

mzoltarp
01-11-2006, 04:06 PM
if they are serious about it yes

erzhik
01-11-2006, 04:11 PM
angel eyes? whats up with that?

mzoltarp
01-12-2006, 06:30 AM
Angel or devil depends on the position of the accelerator.

SV
01-12-2006, 10:06 PM
this really is one awesome-looking car. for one thing, i prefer it over the challenger because it isn't a rehash of the original, although it's obvious that it's a camaro. i'm not sure if i like it better than the mustang though, i'd say they're about equal (using the mustang concept as a comparison to be fair).

mzoltarp
01-13-2006, 07:36 AM
I may have to have a Camaro to go along with my Mustang.

thegreep
01-13-2006, 10:17 AM
SV, so what you are saying is that it's ok for ford to rehash the original but not dodge? I tend to think more along the lines of this, we have spent the last 30 years with cars that are crappy, square, round, no style bastardizations of what cars could be and have been. I applaud chrysler for not screwing this one up, and I applaud GM for keeping the heritage whlie trying something new. Here's the key, if either of them doesn't build something close to what they are showing here they are doing themselves a great disservice (which we are coming to expect from GM). Here's the kicker. . .Ford got there first for no reason other than they took a chance. I would be extatic having any of the big 3's pony cars in my garage, they are all well thought out machines, but I am generally a mopar guy and will be looking for the Challenger

goldwave84
01-14-2006, 10:28 PM
Ive been a fan of american muscle cars for a while now. With the mustang, some of its exteriors just do not match. It has a huge front bumper, which totally throws everything retro out of the window. Still, its a great car. Now, the camero and the challenger is joining in the retro muscle car game. The camero looks great, but its just a concept. I doubt a lot of the interior would be in the final street ready car. Honestly, It looks like a new design car, boxy design car. Some may like it, some may not. I'd take the challenger , It looks retro, and I like that. If I wanted a modern car, ide just go for a Japanese make or something on those lines. If I wanted class and luxury, I would grab a BMW. If I wanted a muscle car? Hmm.....The americans are known for that, and from the way I look at it, the Challenger is the best bet. I don't think Muscle cars were made to look good and stylish, they were made for power.

AM2
01-15-2006, 12:45 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>thegreep</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">SV, so what you are saying is that it's ok for ford to rehash the original but not dodge? </TD></TR></TABLE><br>From a far, the Challenger concept looks like an actual 1972 Dodge Challenger that could have been customized by Chip Foose.<p>To me the new Mustang is more of a mix.

knicks125
01-19-2006, 06:35 PM
Not anything surprising but GM all but confirmed the Camaro for production at the Automotive News World Congress:<p><A HREF="http://autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060119/SUB/60119012/1011&refsect=&lt;pbs:categoryid" TARGET="_blank">http://autonews.com/apps/pbcs....oryid</A> section&gt;<p>But how long?

Gian86
01-19-2006, 07:26 PM
I knew this will happen. What i saw at carscoop website, it says that 6 models including camaro will be built under holden's zeta platform in US.<p>Here's 5 other models will be built on zeta in America (hopely for now) .<p><B>*Buick Velite convertible<br> *Buick flagship sedan<br> *Pontiac Grand Prix<br> *Redesigned Pontiac GTO<br> *Chevrolet Impala</B><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

mzoltarp
01-21-2006, 07:19 AM
I predict that the Zeta--delayed for the gargantuan SUVs--will actually sell in massive amounts assuming GM can inject some of the Camaro's styling intensity. The Impala went from ugly to acceptable. Now lets pull forward some early 60's Impala cues and modernize them. GM could be on a roll.

SV
01-21-2006, 10:44 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>thegreep</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">SV, so what you are saying is that it's ok for ford to rehash the original but not dodge?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>i never said i didn't like the challenger...i'll admit that the new mustang doesn't have much new about its design, but it's my favorite "modern muscle car" styling-wise, apart from maybe the new camaro. the challenger, new or old, is a great-looking car as well, but judging from the concept, so far, there is absolutely nothing "new" about this car, apart from the wider track and thicker pillars. the same admittedly could be said of the mustang, but i prefer the mustang's styling anyway (and that's just personal taste)

hippoSV
02-17-2006, 02:03 PM
the new camaro;while not the best design ever;<br>is quite a good move for GM.not overly retro,it creates a fine balance between classic looks and a <br>tough,modern stance.much better than carbon copies such as the challenger,mustang and even the gorgeous lambo miura(but a complete copy of the 60's design icon!).<br>compared to disappointing recent GM designs,this is a minor TRIUMPH!!!

DSC-OFF
03-01-2006, 01:47 PM
Giant ice sculpture of the Camaro Concept @ the Canadian Auto Show<p><IMG SRC="http://www.auto123.com/ArtImages/56945/Ice_Camaro_02.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><A HREF="http://www.auto123.com/en/info/news/news,view.spy?artid=56945&pg=1" TARGET="_blank">More Photos</A><p><A HREF="http://www.auto123.com/en/info/news/news,view.spy?artid=56945&pg=1" TARGET="_blank">Auto123</A><br> <br>

fippsey
03-02-2006, 03:15 PM
if they make this it better come to england n it is 1 sexy car lol <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0">

spikes111
05-01-2006, 07:41 AM
<B>Look at this crap, dealers taking deposits on a concept!? Scum.<p><A HREF="http://www.camaro5.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.camaro5.com</A></B><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by spikes111 at 4:00 PM 5/2/2006</i>

Nurburgring
05-01-2006, 02:08 PM
That is so stupid!!Hahahaha. But Im telling you, the Camaro s one of the sexiest concepts (hopefully production) out there!

mzoltarp
05-01-2006, 02:38 PM
It's simple. The Camaro is coming and if you want one of the first ones badly enough, putting down a hefty deposit is one sure way to be the first on the block. It's called capitalism. And Chevy will no doubt keep the V8 Camaro in short supply, like Ford does with the Mustang, to keep transaction price at or near list and to keep from having to offer rebates.

megadethmartyr
05-07-2006, 06:41 PM
I'm anxious to see how it turns out. Here's hoping it avoid the GM parts bin.

Naga Royal Guard
05-07-2006, 07:16 PM
they can take as much as they want out the GM Powertrain parts bin

Nurburgring
05-07-2006, 08:14 PM
Im telling the truth. This is officially my favourite-concept all-time. Im proud a Korean designed this. :)

nismo
05-07-2006, 11:28 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>MAZDA5GT</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im telling the truth. This is officially my favourite-concept all-time. Im proud a Korean designed this. :)</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Didn't know that.. I think a Chinese person designed the current Mustang if I'm not mistaken.<p>I wonder what engines GM will put in the production version. I'm guessing the Corvette's V8(LS6?) and a pushrod V6 for the base model. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

iamalittlepepper
05-08-2006, 12:21 PM
Ethnic chinese but Vietnamese by origin.. he is now the head of the neutered SVT.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>nismo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Didn't know that.. I think a Chinese person designed the current Mustang if I'm not mistaken.<p>I wonder what engines GM will put in the production version. I'm guessing the Corvette's V8(LS6?) and a pushrod V6 for the base model. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE>

spikes111
05-08-2006, 12:26 PM
Here's some sketches of what the Camaro Convertible might look like.<p><A HREF="http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17" TARGET="_blank">http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17</A><p>Imagine a Z06 engine in that thing <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0">

SHEPO
05-10-2006, 12:20 PM
Now THAT would be HOT!!!!!<p>BUILD IT GM!!!!!

Nurburgring
05-10-2006, 04:50 PM
It would be stupid if GM doesnt build the Camaro after the already sky rocketting feedback and popularity.

spikes111
05-16-2006, 06:24 AM
<A HREF="http://www.camaro5.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.camaro5.com</A> has a video up of the Camaro in motion and the designers of the car (including the Korean designer MAZDA5GT <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> )<p>Listen to that LS2 V8 burble from the exhaust.... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bowdown.gif" BORDER="0">

brownieholic
05-16-2006, 11:13 AM
I am definately going to buy one of these when it comes out but only if it looks close to the concept.

VexedandGlorious
05-17-2006, 04:41 AM
trust me after all of this hype, they will have to.<br>its the first gen corvette all over again.

DSC-OFF
05-17-2006, 08:35 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Product chief Robert Lutz thinks <B>General Motors can sell more than 100,000 units </B>of the Chevrolet Camaro -- and says that's the number required for GM to build a production version of the concept unveiled at the Detroit auto show.<p>GM is doing "intense work" on engineering for a production version and analyzing the business case, Lutz, GM's vice chairman and global vice president of product development, said in an interview with Automotive News. <p>He added: <B>"Is it an approved program? No."</B><p>In January, Lutz said he expected a decision on building the sporty coupe within six months. GM executives have strongly hinted they will build the Camaro.<p>Lutz says GM wouldn't consider building the car unless it could sell more than 100,000 a year. He says the Camaro, a car he describes as "a little bit off to the side" of mainstream segments, would draw new customers and promote GM's product quality.<p>The Camaro would be aimed at the Ford Mustang, which sold 160,975 units in the United States last year. In the peak years of muscle-car coupes, the Camaro sold 200,000-plus units.<p>The Camaro would be part of GM's coming lineup of midpriced to premium-priced cars on a new rear-drive architecture developed by Holden. North American production of those vehicles is expected in 2008 or 2009.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I suppose they can sell 100k units in the first year or so. But like most cars of this character, sales will die along with the novelty<p><A HREF="http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060515/FREE/60515002/1041" TARGET="_blank">AutoWeek</A><br> <br>

DSC-OFF
05-17-2006, 06:59 PM
<IMG SRC="http://www.tuninghits.de/diskussion/firebird/images/logo.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>C-U-Fs interpretation of what the 2010 Pontiac Zeta could look like (and though it depicts a golden eagle on the bonnet, i resufe to use the "Firebird" designation since Lutz did release intel on all future RWD GM products and it does not include a Pontiac Zeta). Its pure speculation, yet in the realm of reality since GM does like badge engineering; could be something though..<p><A HREF="http://www.c-u-f.de/" TARGET="_blank">ChromUndFlammen</A><br> <br>

brownieholic
05-17-2006, 11:59 PM
Knowing GM, I could see a firebird version soon after the Camaro.

nismo
05-18-2006, 04:26 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>DSC-OFF</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><IMG SRC="http://www.tuninghits.de/diskussion/firebird/images/logo.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>C-U-Fs interpretation of what the 2010 Pontiac Zeta could look like (and though it depicts a golden eagle on the bonnet, i resufe to use the "Firebird" designation since Lutz did release intel on all future RWD GM products and it does not include a Pontiac Zeta). Its pure speculation, yet in the realm of reality since GM does like badge engineering; could be something though..<p><A HREF="http://www.c-u-f.de/" TARGET="_blank">ChromUndFlammen</A><br> <br> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I think GM said the Soltice has taken the Firebirds spot as Pontiac's main sports car. If Pontiac gets a Zeta, it will be a Grand Prix/G8 aimed at Dodge's Charger. <p>They'd bring another GTO before doing another Firebird and it sure as hell wouldn't look that close to the Camaro. That wouldn't be a good idea...

mzoltarp
05-19-2006, 06:18 AM
My money is on a GTO not a firebird or trans am.

megadethmartyr
05-22-2006, 05:09 PM
God this car looks so sweet. I am still sure gm's (I will use big letter's when they stop losing $10.6 billion a year) penny pinchers will ruin this car. They always do.

mzoltarp
05-26-2006, 06:17 AM
if GM wrks as hard on the rear drive models for the usa as they did on the gm900 suvs then we have nothing to worry about.

spikes111
05-31-2006, 06:04 PM
Get a load of this car! New Camaro will be featured in next year's Transformers movie (as Bumblebee)<p><br><A HREF="http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26" TARGET="_blank">http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26</A><p>

against the wall
05-31-2006, 06:35 PM
OH MY GOD<br>when it goes on sale, if i get it, it will 150% be in that color <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0">

JBlair
05-31-2006, 07:22 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>megadethmartyr</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">God this car looks so sweet. I am still sure gm's (I will use big letter's when they stop losing $10.6 billion a year) penny pinchers will ruin this car. They always do.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Oh come on. Fact is, if GM wants to produce this car as is, they'll do it. Just look at what they did with the Solstice.

nismo
06-01-2006, 11:35 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>spikes111</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Get a load of this car! New Camaro will be featured in next year's Transformers movie (as Bumblebee)<p><br><A HREF="http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26" TARGET="_blank">http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p>wow, they just ruined the movie for me. I really like the new Camaro but the beetle will always be Bumblebee. Damn remakes... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0">

against the wall
06-01-2006, 05:00 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>nismo</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>wow, they just ruined the movie for me. I really like the new Camaro but the beetle will always be Bumblebee. Damn remakes... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>its all about the marketing...<br>btw in july motortrend theres an article on a camaro vert and they say it will probably come out some months after the coupe debuts in <B>2006</B>. typo? <br>

StuckInNYForever
06-01-2006, 06:33 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>against the wall</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>its all about the marketing...<br>btw in july motortrend theres an article on a camaro vert and they say it will probably come out some months after the coupe debuts in <B>2006</B>. typo? <br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>The typo is much bigger - I never knew GM finally approved the Camaro for production!!! Do you think Motortrend let the cat out of the bag?

spikes111
06-01-2006, 07:49 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>StuckInNYForever</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The typo is much bigger - I never knew GM finally approved the Camaro for production!!! Do you think Motortrend let the cat out of the bag?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Here's the Motortrend article saying that the coupe will be produced this year and that the Camaro has been approved.<p><A HREF="http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?p=113#post113" TARGET="_blank">http://www.camaro5.com/forums/...st113</A><p><br>I dunno... motortrend getting the scroop on this news?? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

mzoltarp
06-02-2006, 04:07 PM
December 2006 would allow them to call it a 2008. I suspect it's a huge typo but if it is correct then maybe GM isn't as screwed in the head as they have appeared to be. Let's hope for sooner rather than later.

DSC-OFF
06-05-2006, 06:31 PM
<IMG SRC="http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c306/ef0ne2/9f94999b.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><A HREF="http://www.motortrend.com" TARGET="_blank">MT</A><br> <br>

spikes111
06-07-2006, 08:55 AM
Homemade video of the concept car at some Atlanta event revving its engine. The sound is to die for!<p>Source:<br><A HREF="http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30" TARGET="_blank">http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30</A> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0">

62Lincoln
06-07-2006, 10:32 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>StuckInNYForever</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>The typo is much bigger - I never knew GM finally approved the Camaro for production!!! Do you think Motortrend let the cat out of the bag?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Nope. MotorTrend is the <B>last</B> source to look to for reliable information. Lutz was quoted just a week or two ago as saying that he expected approval, but that they were still deciding on a production platform, etc. Built this year? Notgonnahappen.com. <p>Most realistic estimates are 2008-9 timeframe. That makes sense, given where GM are at in the product development process.

spikes111
06-14-2006, 03:24 PM
<A HREF="http://www.camaro5.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.camaro5.com</A> has a 3 minute video of the Camaro cruising around. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

mzoltarp
06-16-2006, 11:02 AM
Great video. All I want now is for Chevy to throw on some non-show-car wheels and tires and do some wicked burnouts. Also some video of the Camaro passing a current Mustang would be great sabre rattling.

spikes111
06-26-2006, 08:30 AM
These are supposed actual leaked blueprints of the new Camaro from <A HREF="http://www.camaro5.com" TARGET="_blank">camaro5.com</A>. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><A HREF="http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38" TARGET="_blank">http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38</A><br>

JBlair
06-27-2006, 09:49 PM
Those could be anything. For all we know, those are just the CAD drawings from the concept.

spikes111
06-27-2006, 11:10 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Those could be anything. For all we know, those are just the CAD drawings from the concept.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Thats true.

mzoltarp
06-28-2006, 04:32 AM
Doesn't require a crystal ball to know the Camaro is a go. It's easily producible off of an existing platform. It will generate high profit and high visibility for GM. My guess is the even if they are CAD drawings from the concept they are also production ready.

Gian86
06-28-2006, 09:51 PM
That's mad!!! Hope this movie turns good as the original animation.

spikes111
07-04-2006, 07:31 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mzoltarp</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Doesn't require a crystal ball to know the Camaro is a go. It's easily producible off of an existing platform. It will generate high profit and high visibility for GM. My guess is the even if they are CAD drawings from the concept they are also production ready.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It's most certainly a "go" now that the Dodge Challenger has been given green light.

spikes111
07-04-2006, 07:33 AM
Nice Camaro SS photo impression from <A HREF="http://www.camaro5.com" TARGET="_blank">Camaro5.com</A><p><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.camaro5.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=75&stc=1&d=1151936765" BORDER="0">

AXLE
07-05-2006, 10:37 AM
wow, that is a cool render!

against the wall
07-05-2006, 10:45 AM
screw it. i dont want the camaro anymore.<p><br>i want the ss.

mzoltarp
07-05-2006, 06:07 PM
LOL kinda like buying a Mustang GT or now the GT500 instead of the garden variety Mustang.

spikes111
07-10-2006, 07:43 AM
Jay Leno giving the new Camaro some nice publicity on his show - <A HREF="http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49" TARGET="_blank">http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49</A>

spikes111
07-17-2006, 08:13 AM
Another convertible concept shot from <A HREF="http://www.camaro5.com" TARGET="_blank">camaro5.com</A><p><A HREF="http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45" TARGET="_blank">http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45</A>

mzoltarp
07-17-2006, 02:58 PM
Can we all say HUGE seller?

syclone
07-25-2006, 06:28 PM
not so sure - i definitely don't care one bit for it - i think its big ugly and stupid just like the last gen one no matter how much the handling improves this time around. my guess is one of two things will happen - 1, initial sales will be strong due mainly to nostalgia and hype, then, no one will care, or 2, gm will manage to find a way to screw it up somehow ssr style.

Naga Royal Guard
07-25-2006, 07:42 PM
if the mustang is doing well, there isnt much reason this shouldnt

mzoltarp
07-26-2006, 10:44 AM
(A response to no one in particular nor in specific) The Camaro is not for everyone nor is it intended to be. Bottom line is that SUV haters and other political axe grinders will despise muscle cars as well and will chant the line "it's wasting gas, it's bloated, it's this, it's that" but we live in a free society where no one has the right to dictate to others what they should and should not do despite that fact that some people THINK they are the moral compass for others. You know the type. They drive the posted 65mph in the fast lane because that is the law. The Camaro, like the Mustang, is politically incorrect for not being a wheezy hybrid, but so what? It will sell like crazy. There are many people out there who want an exciting, invigorating car and they do not want to spend a fortune. Did I mention it will sell like crazy? GM won't botch the Camaro because it will be a high profit car as well as a halo along with the Corvette for more mundane Chevys. It will sell delightfully well both initially and over time if Chevy does special editions (can we get a Yenko please?). People who find the Camaro "immoral" or whatever have plenty of vehicles to choose from to fill their hearts with the knowledge that they are superior to the bottom feeders driving Camaros and Mustangs and they will get their doors blown off as a Camaro SS pulls right on the freeway and punches it to pass. I'm a bottom feeder. I'm proud of it. Gimme my V8. I have gas to waste and laws to break. Smile...life's easier that way.

DoMiNo
07-26-2006, 07:18 PM
Hallelujah. mzoltarp for president!

Velocitas
07-26-2006, 10:12 PM
Given that the previous generation f-body and C5 Corvette can see 30mpg in steady highway cruising, I strongly doubt that this new Camaro will be a "gas-guzzler". <p>Truthfully, there are people who hate cars and hate the image of powerful cars. It's an aesthetic with them, not a practical matter. Screw 'em! :-D<br>

mzoltarp
07-27-2006, 12:16 PM
Did you mean anathema?

Velocitas
07-27-2006, 08:11 PM
<br>No, I meant aesthetic. :) The anti-car crowd has this image of little high tech, socially responsible bubbles they'd like to see us all drive -- all of America in a Prius is their fantasy. No matter how efficient a Camaro might be, they're opposed to the aggressive and "irresponsible" appeal of the car, since it doesn't fit their sense of aesthetics. Much the same way their Prius doesn't fit mine. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>

mzoltarp
07-28-2006, 06:51 AM
Cool. The anti-car crowd hate life anyway. They are kind of the glass half empty kind of people.

spikes111
07-31-2006, 12:53 PM
<A HREF="http://www.camaro5.com" TARGET="_blank">camaro5.com</A> has an entry that speculates if the LS9 engine (think blue-devil corvette <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0"> ) might even make it into the top-end Camaro

MotownMan
08-06-2006, 02:54 AM
<B>It's a Detroit Free Press exclusive. The formal announcement by Rick Wagoner is set for this Thursday, August 10.</B><p><A HREF="http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2006608060568" TARGET="_blank">http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs...60568</A>

against the wall
08-06-2006, 09:50 AM
gm wins the award for the worst kept secret in the auto industry...

the1
08-06-2006, 02:53 PM
'a V-6 and two V-8s' and 'the production Camaro will be based on GM's new Zeta global architecture for rear-wheel-drive cars'. Wow! RWD and 2 V8s... If they don't mess the concept's design this could be one of the greatest American cars launched lately.

Rossell
08-10-2006, 01:56 PM
Its official. 2009 Camaro.

spikes111
08-10-2006, 01:57 PM
Yep, official announcement - produced late 2008, sold early 2009.<p><A HREF="http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90" TARGET="_blank">http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90</A>

against the wall
08-10-2006, 02:03 PM
is that the same timeframe for the challenger?<br>edit: checked the dodge site. challenger is being launched a full year ahead of the camaro. which basically means chevy is losing a year of sale from competition. <p>if this is priced right, ill take a v6 as my 1st car.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by against the wall at 5:32 PM 8/10/2006</i>

syclone
08-14-2006, 08:00 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Naga Royal Guard</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if the mustang is doing well, there isnt much reason this shouldnt</TD></TR></TABLE><p>eh, i still think style is the number one thing the mustang has going for it (i mean its a great performance car for the money, but i still see twice as many v6 automatics as other versions, so people are obviously buying it for style, because the v6 is rated at only 18/25 vs. 17/23 for the v8 so it aint gas milage) - and the mustang style is just much more accessible than this camaro. i mean, it looks good, if not a bit too long and little overwrought in the details (one too many sharp edges to prove its modernness) - but its a very masculine design. i can't see women driving it and thats a huge part of the mustang's success. Add in that the camaro is late to the game (though i doubt too many f-body owners sold out and actually bought a mustang) and i just cant see it selling in the volumes that gm will need so that it doesn't get axed early and bring an end to the camaro line forever

mzoltarp
08-18-2006, 08:06 AM
Women will buy masculine cars but men will not buy feminine cars. This will be very popular with women.

Twin Turbo
08-18-2006, 01:30 PM
Well, a friend of mine drives a Z3 2litre automatic, so some men DO drive women's cars <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"><p>However, the new Camaro presses ALL my buttons. Please GM, sell this car in the UK.

against the wall
08-18-2006, 02:08 PM
my male neighbor has a powder blue z3 also. he only has it because he won it in vegas in a casino.

spikes111
08-18-2006, 08:25 PM
<A HREF="http://www.camaro5.com" TARGET="_blank">Camaro5.com</A> reporting that the new camaro will be built in Canada.<p><A HREF="http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122" TARGET="_blank">http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122</A>

against the wall
08-18-2006, 08:56 PM
im seeing a little bit of destiny here. when the camaro comes out as planned, ill be 17 and ready to get a car. if it comes out in the 1st quarter 2009 ill take one for my birthday. yay for timing. so now im not really bothered by the 3 years from now release date.

jl215
08-21-2006, 01:45 PM
<IMG SRC="http://www.camaro5.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=192&stc=1&d=1155958504" BORDER="0"><p>linked from <A HREF="http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26" TARGET="_blank">http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26</A>

against the wall
08-21-2006, 02:05 PM
i want my camaro to do that...

CosworthKid
08-21-2006, 07:45 PM
<A HREF="http://flickr.com/photos/lights/218635248" TARGET="_blank">http://flickr.com/photos/lights/218635248</A>/<p>Why turn BumbleBee into a Camaro? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0"> I cant imagine a character who was a VW Beetle made into a Camaro!

ajprice
08-22-2006, 06:28 AM
The Camaro in the transformers is a Saleen Camaro, not a standard one. <p>Bumblebee isn't a Beetle because VW did not allow any of their brands or cars to feature in the film, because they do not want to associate themselves or feature in a film about war.<p>Seriously!

against the wall
08-22-2006, 10:31 AM
they better offer that color on production. with the stripes too.

galv
08-22-2006, 05:53 PM
for those of us who can't wait to get our hands on a camaro<br><IMG SRC="http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3074/91077w018dubdiesilvnone2006checonte4.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/6852/91077w018dubdierednone2006checoneg0.jpg" BORDER="0">

CosworthKid
08-22-2006, 09:17 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ajprice</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Camaro in the transformers is a Saleen Camaro, not a standard one. <p>Bumblebee isn't a Beetle because VW did not allow any of their brands or cars to feature in the film, because they do not want to associate themselves or feature in a film about war.<p>Seriously!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yeah so i heard mate but still...then dont make it a Beetle and make it something along those lines, heck make it into a MINI! At least something that can be more easily associated with that character. Judging by the pic of the robot and the muscular looks of a Camaro, i dont see any chance BumbleBee will be as in the animated series <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/werd.gif" BORDER="0">

against the wall
08-22-2006, 09:20 PM
they should put the citroen c4 in the movie. now thats a car that can dance!

CosworthKid
08-23-2006, 01:00 PM
Porbably want to include cars which <B>are</B> on sale or <B>will be</B> or <B>have</B> been in NA

against the wall
08-23-2006, 01:09 PM
what if the robots traveled to europe?, *says the kid who doesnt know the slightest thing about transformers.*

CosworthKid
08-24-2006, 05:50 PM
Unlikely unless the have a character thats supposed to be foreign from the rest and give him/her a different accent as well...C4---&gt; French lady? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0">

against the wall
08-24-2006, 07:53 PM
yea have it a love interest for optimus prime but thatll be too cliche.

GerjurdKing
08-28-2006, 11:06 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>spikes111</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><A HREF="http://www.camaro5.com" TARGET="_blank">Camaro5.com</A> reporting that the new camaro will be built in Canada.<p><A HREF="http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122" TARGET="_blank">http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p><br>I love this. The possibility of the Camaro and Challenger being built within miles of each other (and just miles from where I live). Hopefully I will see a ton of both...

rosmakloma
08-29-2006, 04:08 PM
<A HREF="http://latinoreview.com/filmpreview_image.php?id=7286" TARGET="_blank">http://latinoreview.com/filmpr...=7286</A><p><A HREF="http://latinoreview.com/filmpreview_image.php?id=7287" TARGET="_blank">http://latinoreview.com/filmpr...=7287</A>

Nurburgring
08-30-2006, 03:03 PM
Hey V8, since you live close to me, do you know where they sell the die-casts? I really want to get my hands on one of those. Wal-Mart?<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>V8Power</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">for those of us who can't wait to get our hands on a camaro<br><IMG SRC="http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/3074/91077w018dubdiesilvnone2006checonte4.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://img247.imageshack.us/img247/6852/91077w018dubdierednone2006checoneg0.jpg" BORDER="0"></TD></TR></TABLE>

CosworthKid
09-01-2006, 11:54 AM
Camaro in Transformers seems concept-based yet does anyone know if there is a chance it might actually be the production car making its first bow in the movie?

Mil
09-01-2006, 11:59 AM
I doubt it will be the production ready Camaro.<br>The people who make Transformers probably bought rights to use the concept car.

alienZ
09-02-2006, 04:45 PM
now that jaz has gone to being a solstice instead of a 911 (<A HREF="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4965/683/1600/T3.3.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://photos1.blogger.com/blo...3.jpg</A>)... i would say that GM is supplying the vehicles... maybe paying for product placement... there's that ambulance that is a Hummer (i've seen that in the pictures that have been leaked). (<A HREF="http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2006/08/transformers-exclusive-update.html" TARGET="_blank">http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2....html</A> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/driver.gif" BORDER="0"> )<br>just a thought... ever notice when Ford sponsored 24 on FOX all they drove were cars from the blue oval....<br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/driver.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><br><i>Modified by alienZ at 4:51 PM 9/2/2006</i><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by alienZ at 4:52 PM 9/2/2006</i>

Escobar
09-04-2006, 09:00 PM
I cant wait till it comes out.

Bass-o-Matic
09-11-2006, 11:52 AM
That's one thing I hated about Hawaii 50, Charlie's Angels (Ford products) but loved about The Mod Squad (Mopar)... I have to admit I really liked Chase, too...

CosworthKid
09-11-2006, 02:59 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CarpFan</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That's one thing I hated about Hawaii 50, Charlie's Angels (Ford products)...</TD></TR></TABLE><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0">

against the wall
09-11-2006, 03:33 PM
i think he meant hawaii five-o; an old tv show.

DoMiNo
09-11-2006, 03:33 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>alienZ</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">now that jaz has gone to being a solstice instead of a 911 (<A HREF="http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/4965/683/1600/T3.3.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://photos1.blogger.com/blo...3.jpg</A>)... i would say that GM is supplying the vehicles... maybe paying for product placement... there's that ambulance that is a Hummer (i've seen that in the pictures that have been leaked). (<A HREF="http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2006/08/transformers-exclusive-update.html" TARGET="_blank">http://carscoop.blogspot.com/2....html</A> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/driver.gif" BORDER="0"> )<br>just a thought... ever notice when Ford sponsored 24 on FOX all they drove were cars from the blue oval....<br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/driver.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><br><i>Modified by alienZ at 4:51 PM 9/2/2006</i><p><br><i>Modified by alienZ at 4:52 PM 9/2/2006</i></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Duh.<p>Welcome to the future of advertising. I hope you like it. If everyone didn't "TiVo" through commercials these days maybe such blatant product placement wouldn't be necessary.<p>But it will get worse.

Bass-o-Matic
09-19-2006, 11:16 AM
Yup...<br>I guess I'm showing age but cars on TV in the 70s were a big inspiration for a career gone nowhere <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

spikes111
09-28-2006, 11:01 AM
They need to design the Camaro with flip / hide-away lights like these <br><A HREF="http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=196" TARGET="_blank">http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=196</A><p>Those guys look like they're ready to riot if they don't get lights like that <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0">

jl215
10-20-2006, 06:06 PM
Never thought I'd see a Saleen Camaro but apparently there's gonna be one for the new Camaro with 485hp and a supercharged 600+hp version <p>Word is that the top-end factory version of the new Camaro will have a <B>6.2L 450 horspower </B>engine. Not too shabby even without saleen involvement. Looks like GM is stepping up to challenge the challenger. Gonna be interesting to see Saleen Mustang vs. Saleen Camaros<p>Saw this info on <A HREF="http://www.camaro5.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.camaro5.com</A>

Vltava
10-20-2006, 08:10 PM
Chevy should absolutely NOT offer flip-up headlights on that Camaro. All the hillbillies clamouring for them on that site is reason enough. Next they'll want the doors welded shut and horns that play "Dixie." The last few versions of the Camaro were white trash enough to kill the car. It's time for a modern musclecar!

against the wall
10-20-2006, 08:22 PM
so your reason for chevy not to offer flip up headlights is because a group of people that apparently you dont like, based on your comments, wants them?

mzoltarp
10-21-2006, 05:18 AM
The covered headlights SHOULD be put into production to inject some heritage elements into the design. <p><br>

Vltava
10-21-2006, 05:49 PM
Absolutely! Camaro has a second chance at legitimacy here; why blow it at the behest of the mullet-wearing, first cousin-marrying crowd. Look, this new Camaro could not only posess V-8 rumble but also handle and brake with the likes of the 350Z and 3er BMW. Or it could be a joke, something for the boys in their Toby Keith wifebeaters. Look at the cheesy retro, live axled Mustang. I didn't know before I read that forum that flip-up headlights were the dividing line but there you have it. Remember that Abraham Lincoln went to war to keep those morons from holding slaves, the least GM can do is withhold flip-up headlights from their Camaro. <p>(Yeah, maybe that slavery thing might have been an exaggeration.)

AXLE
11-14-2006, 12:23 AM
I am not a fan of the way the Camaro looks (I hate all GM products in general) however if they make look like this...<p> <IMG SRC="http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/1510/camarobyaladinesalame1klm3.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br>(larger version <A HREF="http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/9374/camarobyaladinesalame1kx.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img364.imageshack.us/im...x.jpg</A>)<p>I may be converted. Seriously how hot does that chop look? I found it via google image search. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

against the wall
11-14-2006, 01:28 PM
and if it looked like that it would never see the light of day.

spikes111
12-04-2006, 01:44 PM
Two leaked CGI images of the transformers camaro<p><A HREF="http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?p=3444#post3444" TARGET="_blank">http://www.camaro5.com/forums/...t3444</A>

CosworthKid
12-05-2006, 04:35 AM
Too bad the leaked script of the movie has been described as "s***" by some online movie sites. They say the movie barely resembles the cartoon, its very kidy like, the robots look nothing like the original versions (which is obvious by looking at pics) etc etc. Also they say the story is crap and very childish. Of course i hope this aint the complete truth or if it is they will change it dramaticaly in the end. But oh well...we all know how Hollywood can be <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/crying.gif" BORDER="0">

spikes111
12-15-2006, 10:15 AM
Another image of the Barricade transformer from <A HREF="http://www.camaro5.com/forums" TARGET="_blank">camaro5.com</A>, which will be a Mustang and the direct enemy of the Camaro haha<p><A HREF="http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26&page=5" TARGET="_blank">http://www.camaro5.com/forums/...age=5</A>

spikes111
12-19-2006, 11:39 AM
Good preview (and pics) of camaro concept unveiling in Detroit show in Jan 07<p><A HREF="http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=425" TARGET="_blank">http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=425</A>

against the wall
12-19-2006, 01:07 PM
those are probably fake. look how disproportionate the front is to the rest of the car. its higher and thicker.

Vltava
12-19-2006, 09:06 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>against the wall</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">those are probably fake. look how disproportionate the front is to the rest of the car. its higher and thicker. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>The proportions look all right but it is more than likely a chop. If those were actual official concept photos, they would be popping up everywhere and not just be an Autoweek exclusive.

jro
12-20-2006, 08:53 AM
here's the new trailer for the Transformers movie...you can see a couple quick shots of the Camaro. Looks like it'll be an entertaining movie to say the least.<p><A HREF="http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/transformers" TARGET="_blank">http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/transformers</A>/

erzhik
12-20-2006, 12:11 PM
thanks for the link.. <br>oh man, i can't wait.. this should be one hell of a movie..

jl215
12-21-2006, 07:08 PM
Some cool shots of the camaro from the actual movie itself<p><A HREF="http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4041#post4041" TARGET="_blank">http://www.camaro5.com/forums/...t4041</A>

spikes111
01-04-2007, 12:14 PM
<b>Just released Camaro CONVERTIBLE concept photos<p><A HREF="http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=462" TARGET="_blank">http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=462</A></b><br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/banana.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by spikes111 at 11:48 AM 1/4/2007</i>

the1
01-04-2007, 12:25 PM
Gorgeous, though the Coupe still looks better IMO. The interior looks a lot closer to production. <p>Did you notice in this pic from the Transformers trailer that the Camaro has normal headlights as opposed to the cool LED ones on the concept? Interesting...<br><IMG SRC="http://img327.imageshack.us/img327/1268/transformers2fw5.png" BORDER="0"><br>

against the wall
01-04-2007, 12:48 PM
<IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/eek3.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/eek3.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/eek3.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>*turns on "we got a hit" by The Who*

jl215
01-04-2007, 12:49 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>spikes111</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><b>Just released Camaro CONVERTIBLE concept photos<p><A HREF="http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=462" TARGET="_blank">http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=462</A></b><br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/banana.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>O M G <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0">

CosworthKid
01-04-2007, 04:34 PM
Looks terrific! Well done! And i love the interior in this, i think i might prefer it over the current Mustang.

the1
01-04-2007, 05:14 PM
I think this is a lot better than the Mustang.

Vltava
01-04-2007, 06:46 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>the1</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think this is a lot better than the Mustang. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Much.

Gian86
01-04-2007, 07:12 PM
Love that model, it does look alot better than the Mustang that's for sure.<br>Looks like GM is going back to it's good shape soon thanks to newer platforms especially zeta.

the1
01-04-2007, 07:20 PM
Newer platforms and DESIGN. They've finally hired some good designers to take care of their new crop of models. Maybe this explains why Chrysler can't design good looking cars anymore, all their designers fled and went to GM. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0">

Nurburgring
01-04-2007, 08:21 PM
Chrysler still has potential though. I like this more than the Coupe concept. The wheels and the colour of this just makes it more appealing. The thing that matters the most is whether GM will keep the production version fairly close to the gorgeous concepts. We have yet to find out.

Comrade
01-04-2007, 09:07 PM
I wouldn't get my hopes up too much for the production model. The Mustang concept was nothing short of spectacular:<p><IMG SRC="http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com/media/2003/naias/ford.mustang/ford.mustang.f34.2.500.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p>...but it watered down to this: (V6 model)<p><IMG SRC="http://www.decasino.com/05Must_V6_Conv3-4_4784.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p>

Nurburgring
01-04-2007, 09:18 PM
I actually think Ford did quite a good job in making it civilized for our roads. I hope GM does it the same, except better to satisfy Comrade's tastes. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

galv
01-04-2007, 10:10 PM
Has the Camaro been caught testing in Australia yet? I just got back from the States and missed a lot of news.

Gian86
01-04-2007, 10:42 PM
I guess it's no for now. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

carfanatic
01-04-2007, 11:04 PM
wow, nice. :D can't waittttttttt

carfanatic
01-05-2007, 01:48 AM
<b>high-res gallery! i think these are the best images of the camaro yet, nice and big: enjoy!</b><p><A HREF="http://carphotosite.com/categories.php?cat_id=66" TARGET="_blank">http://carphotosite.com/categories.php?cat_id=65</A>

Gian86
01-05-2007, 02:30 AM
Official info :<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>carnewssite.com/GM</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p><B>CHEVY CAMARO CONVERTIBLE CONCEPT DEBUTS AT NORTH AMERICAN INTERNATIONAL AUTO SHOW<br></B><p>The Chevrolet Camaro concept was the celebrated star of the 2006 auto show season. You can only top that by literally and figuratively blowing the top off. Thats exactly what GMs designers and engineers did to create the Camaro convertible concept. The introduction of the Camaro convertible concept was on the eve of the North American International Auto Show at GM Style, an exclusive, fashion-splashed event combining celebrities, couture and automobiles.<p>The Camaro convertible concept, wrapped in Hugger Orange pearl tri-coat paint with twin gunmetal gray sport stripes, is based on the original Camaro concept, with only minor changes required to accommodate the convertible body style.<p>The best follow-up to last years award-winning Camaro concept is a Camaro convertible, said Ed Welburn, GM vice president, global design. The Camaro convertible concept instantly evokes an emotional response  its a vehicle that you want to make room for in your garage.<p>The Camaro convertible concept embodies strong heritage while appealing to a new generation of customers who seek a distinctive statement in a new car.<p>For some of us, an emotional bond was formed when we introduced the Camaro coupe last year, said Ed Peper, Chevrolet general manager. It is magnificent. But now this year, if this Camaro convertible doesnt make your heart beat faster, you should see either your optometrist or your cardiologist, because you have a problem.<p>Chevrolet already has announced production plans for the Camaro, which will go on sale in 2009. A production convertible model will be added later that year.<p>Fun spirit<br>Like the Camaro concept vehicle, the Camaro convertible concept blends a dramatic, forward-looking design that is mindful of the brands storied heritage. That design includes classic long hood/short deck proportions and a wide, wheels-at-the-corners stance that gives the vehicle the look of hugging corners even when stationary.<p>The Camaro convertible concept is motivated by a torquey V-8 engine that rightly sends power to the rear wheels via a manual transmission. It also features a four-wheel independent suspension system and four-wheel disc brakes.<p>There is an undeniably fun spirit with the Camaro convertible concept, said Peper. The promise of fun made by the convertible top is reinforced with the Camaros lets go stance  its a car that begs to be driven.<p>The Camaro convertible concept shares exterior dimensions with the Camaro concept, although the convertible concepts windshield surround, which features a bright anodized finish, is changed slightly to accommodate the convertible top.<p>Additional design details include:<p>* Tonneau cover over the folded top<br>* Halo headlamps<br>* LED taillamps<br>* Rear spoiler with LED-lit CHMSL<br>* Racing-inspired fuel filler door<br>* Front-inlet hood scoop, inspired by the Corvette Z06<br>* Heritage-inspired rear fender gills<br>* Anodized aluminum door handles<br>* Bold 21-inch (front) and 22-inch (rear) wheels, with accent color<p>The Camaro convertible concepts Hugger Orange pearl tri-coat color is a contemporary update of the classic hue, which was originally offered in 1969. It is complemented with twin gunmetal gray sport stripes. The modern interpretation of the classic color and its dark accent stripes simultaneously reflect the Camaros heritage and deliver a deep, lustrous and thoroughly contemporary appearance.<p>The Camaro convertible concept rides on 21-inch front wheels and 22-inch rear wheels. The wheels have a deep-dish, five-spoke design and feature charcoal center sections with bright outer edges and a red outline on the wheel edge. The charcoal wheels complement the gunmetal gray stripes on the body.<p>Inspired cockpit<br>Inside, the Camaro convertible features a simple yet purposeful interior that reflects design elements inspired by the muscle car era, including the first-generation Camaro. A new, light-and-dark color scheme enhances the airy feel of the convertible, particularly when the top is lowered.<p>The seats fronts feature platinum-tone leather surrounding suede-like Alcantara inserts, with black, sculpted seatbacks. The use of light color only on the seating surface is reminiscent of vintage houndstooth interiors, while a matching, tri-coat platinum paint is used to accent the door panels and instrument panel, giving a modern, bold feel to the interior.<p>The light-on-dark interior coloring makes a strong statement that conveys the spirit of freedom and fun that is embodied by a Camaro convertible, said Micah Jones, interior designer.<p>As with the Camaro coupe concept, the convertible concept features an instrument panel inspired by first-generation Camaros, including an intricate round-gauges-in-square-holes design. The gauges have a deep, three-dimensional appearance, with white faces and red pointers.<p>The instrument panel  including the four auxiliary gauges mounted in front of the shifter  pays homage to first-generation Camaros, while achieving a modern appearance through its refined integration of components, said Jones.<p>Craftsmanship and attention to detail are evidenced throughout the interior, including the smoke satin aluminum finish on trim plates, vents, seat handles and safety belt buckles. The shifter and pedals are made of billet aluminum. The steering wheel has a detailed, deep-dish three-spoke design and the front seats are hinged at the center  rather than the sides  for an integrated appearance. A separate ignition button is used to start the engine and the speedometer and tachometer needles complete full-sweep indexing when the engine rumbles to life.<p>A spine motif runs through the center of the vehicle and on the seatbacks, including a prominent center console that stretches to the rear seat. The spine reinforces the symmetry of the Camaro convertible, as well as its precision.<p>An attainable icon<br>The original Camaro was introduced to the Baby Boomer generation, a large group of young, individualistic and mobile Americans that drove fundamental changes in the auto industry. The Camaro was personal, sporty and powerful  attributes that were typically found on more expensive, smaller and, often, foreign sports cars. The Camaro represented a real life-sized sporty car that was attainable for just about everyone. An almost endless list of optional features, colors and trim combinations ensured owners could tailor their Camaro to their exact taste.<p>As Boomers transitioned into larger vehicles to accommodate growing families, younger drivers embraced used Camaros as their first cars, and third- and fourth-generations of the Camaro continued to deliver affordable fun and performance to a new generation of enthusiasts. Indeed, hundreds of thousands of owners of all walks of life have found driving fun in a Camaro during the past 40 years.<p>The new Camaro concepts draw on their namesakes heritage, but also the global, youthful influences of the 21 st century. These influences are seen in the Camaro convertible concepts bold proportions, tailored wheel-to-body relationship and detailed interior  including the multi-dimensional instruments. Its a design that resonates with a generation of younger car buyers influenced by highly stylized tuner cars and import sports cars.<p>Youthful buyers want a car that makes a statement in its design as much as its performance, said Brian Smith, exterior designer. The new Camaro concepts bridge heritage with contemporary style, with a design that is simultaneously admired among import-influenced youth and traditional enthusiasts.<p>Along with style and performance, the timeless spirit of fun is woven into the new Camaro concepts.<p>Camaro has always represented the American ethic that style and performance dont belong exclusively to the wealthy, said Smith. Camaro has always been everybodys sports car, and these new concepts demonstrate its spirit is relevant for a new generation. <p></TD></TR></TABLE>

Mil
01-05-2007, 09:34 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>carfanatic</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><b>high-res gallery! i think these are the best images of the camaro yet, nice and big: enjoy!</b><p><A HREF="http://carphotosite.com/categories.php?cat_id=66" TARGET="_blank">http://carphotosite.com/categories.php?cat_id=65</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Nice, though id still prefer the coupe.

jl215
01-06-2007, 10:55 AM
Check these new pics out <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><A HREF="http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=478" TARGET="_blank">http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=478</A><br><A HREF="http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2&page=2" TARGET="_blank">http://www.camaro5.com/forums/...age=2</A> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0">

jl215
01-11-2007, 05:24 PM
Interesting interview with the general manager of Chevrolet where he says 500hp version is possible and has already seen the production Camaro... cool!<p><A HREF="http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=501" TARGET="_blank">http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=501</A><p>

the1
01-12-2007, 06:15 PM
General Motors has gone the extra mile to ensure the production 2009 Chevrolet Camaro is as close to the concept version as possible. Rather than using the exact same Zeta platform as the Holden Commodore and Pontiac G8, GM made the front axle centerline on the Camaro about 50mm further forward than on the two sedans, according to Motor Trend.<p>The expensive change was made to allow the Camaro and Impala to fit 20-inch wheels without compromising steering lock and turning radius. A Holden source told the magazine the car could even fit 24-inch wheels without issue. Does that mean the production Camaro will have wheels worthy of a show car? We think so.<p>At the Detroit auto show, GM officials again insisted the production Camaro would be very close to the concept  nearly identical, they say. According to the MT sources, the only visual differences will be a roofline about 3/5ths of an inch higher than concept, and an overall width reduction of about a third of an inch.<p>In terms of MSRP, GM sources told the magazine a V6 model will retail from $21,000. It will feature a 3.9-liter powerplant with a six speed automatic or manual. It promises to be considerably smoother than the truck-like 4.0-liter V6 under the hood of the base Mustang.<br>autoblog

mzoltarp
01-12-2007, 07:28 PM
Bring it on baby, bring it on. My '05 Mustang GT needs a friend in the driveway. As John Lennon said: "Power the the people, right on!" Bring it! Bring it!

erzhik
01-14-2007, 08:49 PM
some of my pics..This car looks hot.<p> <IMG SRC="http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/228/dsc02223rr6.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://img207.imageshack.us/img207/5536/dsc02225ay4.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/3914/dsc02229ve2.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br> <IMG SRC="http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/9848/dsc02230oo8.jpg" BORDER="0">

the1
01-15-2007, 04:53 AM
Not just hot, super hot! That menacing face is amazing!

CosworthKid
01-15-2007, 10:28 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>the1</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not just hot, super hot! That menacing face is amazing!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>menacing face? wait till you see mine mate, hehe<br>Gorgeous car <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>I seems orange is still a favourate among show cars <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">

Mil
01-15-2007, 12:42 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CosworthKid</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>menacing face? wait till you see mine mate, hehe<br>Gorgeous car <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>I seems orange is still a favourate among show cars <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Orange is sooo last year (with Focus ST and the whle Ford thing), though this looks....amazing. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/eek2.gif" BORDER="0">

CosworthKid
01-16-2007, 08:45 AM
Sooo last year? You in the fashion business mate? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>It seems since Ford used it on the ST and Renault on the Megane RenaultSport it has become a favourite for sporty cars, and why not? Still looks hot on most cars and makes a change from decades of red,silver and black cars <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0">

Comrade
01-19-2007, 10:28 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>CaymanS</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I actually think Ford did quite a good job in making it civilized for our roads. I hope GM does it the same, except better to satisfy Comrade's tastes. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><br>haha. Yeah Comrade no likey the V6 mustang bumper. V8 more more mean looking <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/images/smilies/sponge.gif" BORDER="0">

karo.ambrose
01-19-2007, 12:43 PM
<A HREF="http://autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070119/FREE/70118002/1024" TARGET="_blank">http://autoweek.com/apps/pbcs..../1024</A><p>This thing won't be on sale until 2009??? Man, I sure hope GM knows what they're doing. Trying to generate consistent buzz for two whole years before the product is released sounds like a tough feat. By the media exposure GM is planning with this car (Transformers, music videos, etc.), I fear that GM might deluge us with this car before its even saleable. I wish GM would've released the Camaro concept and the Camaro convertible concept a little closer toward the actual production date. Shock and awe the public, you know and before it hits 'em, they realize they can actually buy this amazing car.<p>But I'm no marketing expert.

mzoltarp
01-20-2007, 08:34 AM
Two years will allow the styling to become less immediate and will put it on equal footing with the next Mustang. If the Camaro were coming in early 2008, it would be a stampede. It's really odd how this is pretty much how it played out in the 1960s as well.

StuckInNYForever
01-22-2007, 06:07 PM
I am not sure I understand that reasoning. Wouldn't they want a stampede to the dealerships? If they wait until 2009, they will have the Challenger, Nissan GTR, and possibly even the Supra to deal with as well. Not to mention a potential V8 RWD Hyundai! And they will have the Mustang redesign to deal with also. There has to be some other reasons that they are not telling us.

thedesigner
01-22-2007, 11:38 PM
Uh, I wouldn't exactly worry about the $70k GTR and the who knows how much Supra. It's a race with the Challenger and the next Mustang. If Ford was smart they'd get on their horses and offer a tarted up Mustang and brand it a Mercury XR-7 and milk the current gen platform for all it's worth. Get some freaking traffic in there. For all the multiple, cloned bastards of the past 20 years why not make one that makes sense? GM did it with the Firebird forever and they'll probably do it again with this. No brainer I say. <p>As for the Camaro... it's just not going to look new and exciting if we look at the same design for another 2 years. I can already see it now. An Iroc-Z concept, a Z-28 concept, an SS concept, a Trans-Am concept, etc... ugghhhh.... this car is going to be Paris Hilton in 2 years.

jro
02-01-2007, 09:09 AM
This thing looks so bad!!! (don't skip the animated intro)<p><br><A HREF="http://www.chevrolet.com/performance" TARGET="_blank">http://www.chevrolet.com/performance</A>/

mzoltarp
02-01-2007, 10:02 PM
Reality: Ford will have an answer to the Camaro. My advice: buy one of each.

FRDesign
02-03-2007, 01:40 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mzoltarp</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Reality: Ford will have an answer to the Camaro. My advice: buy one of each.</TD></TR></TABLE>Ill take a Challenger SRT-8(Hopefully SRT-10!) as well.

against the wall
02-03-2007, 09:19 AM
if i had enough money to buy all 3, i would go for a z06.