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rv65
12-18-2009, 04:39 AM
Apparently VW wants to join the WRC in 2012 or continue on with Rally Raid. This decision will be made in March of next year. VW has Carlos Sainz and other former rally drivers to help with development with their WRC program. VW would likely do it in house and could very well use the Scirocco. VW does want more prestigious events like the Monte Carlo and possibly Safari. VW also wants more manufacturers to join. Then again they're looking into supplying engines to F1 teams.

swizzle
12-18-2009, 02:29 PM
VW not being in WRC is stupid!

rv65
12-19-2009, 08:39 AM
VW has the Polo which can be converted to a 1.6L WRC car. In 2011 all WRC cars will move to a 1.6Turbo. VW also wants the WRCars to have paddle shifters so they can promote their DSG technology. I believe the cars will be Super 2000 based but will have 1.6Turbo engines. The WRcars will have more power but all new S2000 cars homologated after 2011 will need to have a 1.6Turbo and not a 2.0L n/a engine. Martin Prokop said that the Fiesta S2000 can be converted to 2011 WRC specs.

Mini is working with Prodrive for a future WRC team. Subaru could join the WRC if they sell enough cars. Subaru would probably have to use a different car prep company as Prodrive will likely be with Mini.

Citroen's next WRCar will be the DS3.

rv65
12-27-2009, 04:23 AM
Citroen Team Boss Olivier Quesnel said that VW would return to the WRC in 2012 and that Prodrive will come back in 2011 with a new manufacturer.

rv65
12-27-2009, 09:58 PM
The new World Engine will be used in both WTCC and the WRC. It will be a 1.6L Turbo I4 with a 33mm restrictor. Boost will be limited to 2.5 bar and an FIA control box will be installed to make sure the teams aren't cheating. The 1.6Turbo will not be a spec engine. It's a set of rules that teams use to build their engines With VW joining in 2012 it will be quite a competitive championship.

The Scirocco might not be VW's WRCar since they have the Golf and Polo. I've also heard that the Scirocco is too wide for the WRC so they have to use either the Golf or Polo. Polo seems to be the most likely choice as there is a S2000 version of it. The S2000 cars will form the basis of the next gen WRCars. The new 1.6Turbo engines will be just as exciting as the current ones and will likely be just as quick within a few years. The Monte Carlo Rally could come back but only under their terms.

rv65
12-30-2009, 08:28 PM
VW could very well continue with Rally Raids and build another Race Touareg off the next gen model. I think they'll try the WRC though and let Skoda compete in the IRC.

rv65
03-26-2010, 09:04 AM
I guess VW can use their racing DSG in the WRC as they've now allowed for semi automatic gearboxes.

rv65
05-15-2010, 07:02 PM
There are now new rumors of VW entering the WRC and the WTCC. This new 1.6T is also compatible with the WTCC.

DoMiNo
05-15-2010, 07:43 PM
They're already sweeping WTCC with the SEAT Leon...why would they enter a VW team too?

rv65
05-29-2010, 06:58 AM
VW wouldn't make a good team in the WRC as their ego's would prevent them from winning. Skoda would be a better team as they are now under new management which are very passionate about Rallying. The Fabia S2000 is very successful in the IRC and they are developing a WRC version since all WRCars after 2011 will have to be based on Super 2000 cars. Then again, the new regs also call for paddle shift gearboxes, full electronic upgrades, and water cooled brake calipers on certain events.

rv65
05-29-2010, 07:01 AM
VW could use the same 1.6T petrol engine they are going to be using in the WTCC and use it in their WRC program. It would be nice to see Skoda and VW compete in the WRC together, even if the Fabia WRC is used by privateers. I even think the new Mini WRC would be more competitive than a VW WRCar. VW will announce their decision after Dakar 2011. They will compete in the Dakar 2011, but for 2012, there would be new regs and they might move the Dakar back to Africa, which VW doesn't find appealing. WRC could work for them, but VW hasn't had successful rally programs in the past save for Dakar.

rv65
05-29-2010, 08:11 PM
Olivier Quesnel sez that Mini will join the WRC in 2011 while VW will join in 2012 with the Scirocco.

rv65
06-07-2010, 01:36 AM
I still don't think VW will have a successful rally program. They will be the next Suzuki and Hyundai in the WRC. I think a underfunded Mini program from Prodrive will be more successful than a VW WRC team. VW's attitude towards motorsport is wrong. Even Toyota would do better in the WRC than VW. Toyota has the all or nothing approach when it comes to rallying. Then again, I don't know as Ove Andersson the mastermind behinds TTE's rally team has been dead for the past few years.

http://rallye-info.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=53&start=20#p639

rv65
06-08-2010, 10:17 AM
They're already sweeping WTCC with the SEAT Leon...why would they enter a VW team too?

VW can use the same engine for Seat's WTCC program in addition to the WRC.

rv65
06-08-2010, 10:21 AM
I've heard that Toyota visited Rallye Portugal and asked a bunch of team managers a bunch of information related to the WRC. Toyota might consider a comeback to the WRC. It would be nice if Toyota went back into rallying since Ove Andersson's death. I hope they use K AM number plates, as thats what Ove Andersson used and it would make a good tribute to him. I bet he would be very proud if Toyota went back into rallying. Toyota is also considering the IRC, but there are rumors of Jean Todt merging the IRC into the WRC. Toyota visited IRC Sardegna and Monte Carlo in addition to WRC Rallye Portugal.

rv65
07-25-2010, 09:33 PM
VW is now considering the WRC again, and rumors are pointing out that they will join the WRC in 2012 with a Scirocco.

rv65
08-23-2010, 01:39 AM
VW might do the WRC in 2013, now with a Golf. Probably the Golf VII. VW will never be successful in the WRC, and this will never change.

rv65
02-05-2011, 08:14 PM
A long time has passed since the last post. VW has been looking into the WRC, and Kris Nissen said it's a good idea to join the WRC. It would likely be a Polo, but a Scirocco or Golf WRC is possible. VW might be joining sometime in 2012 for a partial season, with 2013 being their first full season with the car. VW might still do the Dakar alongside the WRC program, at least in the short term. 2012 could very well be their last Dakar as a works team. VW could still continue on in Dakar as a private team or semi works team. I've also heard that the program is all but final, and that VW just needs to announce it. The car has supposedly been in development for quite some time, but who knows.

DoMiNo
02-05-2011, 08:55 PM
Seems silly to have both Skoda and VW competing in rally.

Naga Royal Guard
02-05-2011, 10:11 PM
Seems silly to have both Skoda and VW competing in rally.

In any arena; who would VW truly compete with if it wasn't constantly shooting itself in the foot while in pursuit of grenading it's own tail?

rv65
02-06-2011, 12:13 AM
Skoda wouldn't directly compete in the WRC. They would develop a slightly detuned version of a VW WRC using an all new custom 1.6T racing engine by Oreca. This engine might be based on the engine used in the Audi S3 or something like that. Skoda will continue to compete in the IRC with the Fabia S2000 powered by a 2.0NA engine and then a 1.6T. The new WRCars are actually enhanced S2000 cars with a a few WRC specific enhancements.

DoMiNo
02-06-2011, 04:03 AM
In any arena; who would VW truly compete with if it wasn't constantly shooting itself in the foot while in pursuit of grenading it's own tail?

Ah, well, yes, you have a point.

rv65
02-07-2011, 10:59 PM
VW doesn't want 2 brands competing in the same motorsport. IRC is classified differently as the WRC. Skoda can compete no problem in the IRC as long as VW doesn't compete in that series.

rv65
02-19-2011, 10:57 PM
VW could announce something like the WRC in next 3-6 months.

rv65
03-11-2011, 01:42 AM
VW might announce their WRC program at Rallye Portugal, which is in a few weeks. It seems like they're going with the Polo and not the Scirocco. VW initially considered the Scirocco, but they scrapped that idea, since it's too wide and probably too heavy. Polo seems right and that Oreca built 1.6T will be the same engine used in the new Polo R and Audi S1.

VW was considering Loeb, but he rejected that offer. Petter Solberg is another driver that VW is looking into.

rv65
03-11-2011, 12:02 PM
Skoda originally had plans to make a WRC comeback, but VW forced them to scrap those plans.

phaeton
03-20-2011, 01:32 AM
Well is every article I read is right we will know by the end of this week :)

rv65
03-20-2011, 06:44 AM
VW has supposedly postponed the announcement to a new date yet TBD.

rv65
03-30-2011, 01:24 AM
Skoda is using new Reiger dampers, in which VW is evaluating whether or not they will use them for the Polo WRC. The Scirocco is obviously out as it's too wide. Polo makes more sense as they can use components from the Fabia S2000, to save on development costs.

rv65
04-14-2011, 10:59 PM
Program will be announced in a press conference on May 8th. VW wanted to announce it earlier, yet the paperwork didn't get done in time, forcing VW to delay the announcement. It's very much going to be a Polo and not a Scirocco, as was initially rumored.

rv65
04-15-2011, 05:27 AM
It almost sounds like VW is simply taking the Fabia S2000 and transferring it to the Polo bodyshell. Of course the engine will be a 1.6T with more power, while Skoda is developing a Super Production version of the VW WRC with a Fabia bodyshell.

Then again, the Fabia and the Polo are basically the same car, so it should work out.

rv65
04-19-2011, 04:29 AM
Someone should do a Polo WRC chop, to see what it could look like. We'll get to hear the announcement in a few weeks.

phaeton
04-25-2011, 12:30 AM
No need to do a chop ;)

http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd417/VWWC_Australia/News%202011/CTCCPolo16T20111.jpg

A sign of the future from China - VWwatercooled News blog (http://www.vwwatercooled.org.au/content/polo-1-6t-race-china-preview-wrc-assault-161/)

rv65
04-25-2011, 09:45 PM
That won't quite be the base car. There will be some changes to the bodyshell to accommodate 4WD and a modified suspension layout. VW is simply going to copy the Fabia S2000 and make a WRC version out of it.

rv65
05-02-2011, 06:42 AM
VW might be making their announcement this Thursday in Sardinia. I think this is it, VW will make their announcement, but I don't expect their lineup to be announced this year. Later this year, VW is expected to announce their lineup.

rv65
05-03-2011, 02:48 AM
It could very well be a Scirocco. Announcement is on Thursday.

rv65
05-05-2011, 06:11 PM
Well it's official VW is going to join the WRC in 2013 with a Polo R not a Scirocco. I guess the Polo rumors were right. VW could very well be running a Fabia S-WRC team to get experience for the new car.

http://www.volkswagen-motorsport.com/web/news/index.php?&flash=ok&lg=e&st=588&id=4426
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs4donyiQgo