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FaLeX
10-04-2005, 04:28 PM
Nissan GT-R Proto @ 2005 Tokyo Motor Show<p><IMG SRC="http://tinypic.com/eagor7.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>NISSAN AT THE TOKYO MOTOR SHOW 2005  GT-R PROTO<p>At a glance:<p>Ultimate driving pleasure <p>Exterior design close to final <p>Official launch set for 2007 <p>At the 35th Tokyo Motor Show in 2001, Nissan unveiled the GT-R Concept, confirming that the GT-R legend would be continued into the 21st century. Then, at the 37th Tokyo Motor Show in 2003, Nissan announced the next-generation GT-R would be rolled out in 2007. Now with the launch of the production model just two years away, the development of the new GT-R has moved ahead again with the reveal of the GT-R PROTO.<p>Ultimate driving pleasure<p>In essence, driving pleasure means that a car responds faithfully to the driver's wishes and performs precisely as expected. Successive generations of the GT-R have consistently pursued this vision of ultimate driving pleasure. Whether on the road or the racetrack, the GT-R has always represented ultimate performance combined with handling qualities that stay faithful to the drivers wishes, in all conditions. As a result, the GT-R has built a reputation that extends far beyond just its loyal owner base.<p>Exterior design: pure performance <p>The design of the GT-R PROTO expresses pure GT-R heritage, coming from the first model PGC10 (1969) through R34 (1999), in a new and expressive form.<p>From its original roots as a pure-bred Japanese performance car, the new GT-R will now be a car sold globally, recognising its ability to compete with the very best in the world. For the first time in its history, the new GT-R will be designed as a specific body-style, and not derived from a sedan.<p>The design language of the GT-R PROTO is expressed by a distinctive body-style that communicates pure performance and functionality. The form of the GT-R PROTO instantly expresses its purpose and potential, but in a way that is unique to this iconic car.<p>At the front end, the single centre air intake is designed to optimise airflow and to strongly link the identity of the GT-R from R34 to GT-R Concept (2001). Front fenders are uniquely designed through intensive analysis of the airflow around the tyres and the air vent behind the front fender also optimises aerodynamics. The sides of the body are sculptured towards the rear fender, expressing the power and dynamic tension of the car. <p>The overall shape of the body combines solid and smooth surfaces to achieve the look of a well-trained athlete. The unique C-pillar crease is designed for optimum aerodynamics, reflecting the racing DNA of the GT-R.<p>The rear of the GT-R PROTO is strong and well defined. The signature four ring-shaped tail lamps provide an immediate visual link to previous GT-R models. Four large-bore exhaust pipes complete the purposeful look, which could only be that of a pure GT-R.<p>The GT-R PROTO provides for the first time a clear indication of the final design direction for the production model to be launched in 2007, the first all-new GT-R in eight years.<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p><br><i>Modified by FaLeX at 11:39 AM 10/6/2005</i><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by FaLeX at 1:23 PM 10/6/2005</i>

knihc2008
10-04-2005, 04:40 PM
it looks okay.. but not like a skyline GT-R.. at all.

Gian86
10-04-2005, 06:10 PM
They show the next GT-R once again since 2001. I hope it will look good in metal.

The Water Is Poison
10-04-2005, 06:47 PM
I hope the proportions are better. Looks squished

Redline
10-04-2005, 07:24 PM
Nice, but it still has those awful headlamps.

joesuv86
10-04-2005, 08:39 PM
looks a bit like a lotus....overall nice, but again, proportions are iffy

KebabGud
10-05-2005, 09:04 AM
Source ?

FaLeX
10-05-2005, 11:19 AM
picture of the butt of "Nissan GT-R Proto"<p><IMG SRC="http://tinypic.com/e9ugwj.jpg" BORDER="0">

metallic
10-05-2005, 11:29 AM
Wow! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/eek2.gif" BORDER="0"> It looks awesome! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0">

Ascariss
10-05-2005, 02:08 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>KebabGud</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Source ? </TD></TR></TABLE><p>It's from Nissan, but some jackass decided to break the embargo, whoever that may be. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/angry.gif" BORDER="0">

knihc2008
10-05-2005, 02:09 PM
side looks like a viper from that angle. and, yet again, not like a skyline gt-R. at all.

autodanse
10-05-2005, 04:35 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>...DamagedProphet...</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I hope the proportions are better. Looks squished</TD></TR></TABLE><br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>joesuv86</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">looks a bit like a lotus....overall nice, but again, proportions are iffy</TD></TR></TABLE><p>i definitely agree. i cant wait to see real pictures, cause this drawing is rather awkward

metallic
10-06-2005, 04:35 AM
<IMG SRC="http://response.jp/issue/2005/1006/article74995_1.images/95632.jpg" BORDER="0">

Charger
10-06-2005, 06:35 AM
The grille area reminds me of the new Eclipse

or2001
10-06-2005, 07:47 AM
i really like the car behind it (the blue one)

stubles
10-06-2005, 11:37 AM
So Nissan is sticking it (or trying) to Audi for use of pre fix Q but is quite happy to to take BMW slogans and mix and match them?<p>Sheer Driving Pleasure + Ultimate Driving Machine = Ultimate Driving Pleasure<p>go figure

ndjan
10-06-2005, 07:24 PM
Rear looks too much like a ferrari. Front has the original concept's clunkiness. I'm a little nervous the two ends won't complement eachother.

FaLeX
10-07-2005, 06:00 AM
another JDM Mag of GT-R Proto<p><IMG SRC="http://response.jp/issue/2005/1007/article75039_1.images/95741.jpg" BORDER="0">

Gian86
10-07-2005, 06:21 AM
That's Nissan Foria concept (the blue one), that must be the first real pic on that magazine cover u send, more pics is already in Nissan Foria thread on Concept cars section. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

synthesis
10-08-2005, 11:45 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knihc2008</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it looks okay.. but not like a skyline GT-R.. at all.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It's because the new GT-R will not be derived from a sedan, but will be built as a coupe from the beginning. Definitely a good move in my opinion. Looks ten times better.

KebabGud
10-10-2005, 06:51 AM
in other words.. its not a skyline GT-R .. its a GT-R

knicks125
10-10-2005, 10:04 AM
Official Site:<p><A HREF="http://www.gtrproto.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.gtrproto.com</A><p>The countdown is on <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

SELLER
10-17-2005, 04:26 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Official Site:<p><A HREF="http://www.gtrproto.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.gtrproto.com</A><p>The countdown is on <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>1 day, 7 hours!!

SHEPO
10-17-2005, 07:32 PM
1 day, 4 hours!!!

KebabGud
10-17-2005, 09:27 PM
1 day 2 hours!<p>ok .. lets stop there

SHEPO
10-18-2005, 12:16 PM
11 hours, 13 minutes!!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0">

knihc2008
10-18-2005, 01:57 PM
someone changed the name to nissan/infiniti? the concept car is officiall a nissan isn't it?

Andre
10-18-2005, 03:29 PM
This is the "prototype" of the Nissan/Infiniti GT-R, so the name of the thread alludes to that, not the car itself.

kerokero
10-18-2005, 06:35 PM
here comes the official pics!!!!!!<br><A HREF="http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/article/EVENT_LEAF/20051019/109807" TARGET="_blank">http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/a...09807</A>/

kerokero
10-18-2005, 06:36 PM
<IMG SRC="http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/article/EVENT_LEAF/20051019/109807/01.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>more -&gt;<br><A HREF="http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/article/EVENT_LEAF/20051019/109807" TARGET="_blank">http://techon.nikkeibp.co.jp/a...09807</A>/

SHEPO
10-18-2005, 06:43 PM
very interesting...very different...so far, its pretty good, but ill wait for more pics tomorrow to make a final judgement <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>it just can't compare to this: <A HREF="http://www.motordesktop.com/wallpaper/sportscars/Nissan%20Skyline%20GTR%201%20-%201024x768.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.motordesktop.com/wa...8.jpg</A>

SELLER
10-18-2005, 06:46 PM
As I said in the Car Spy Shots section...<p>Shoot me, I think.

scorpio14
10-18-2005, 07:03 PM
Looks alright... cant wait to c the production version and specs.

Gian86
10-18-2005, 07:08 PM
Looks nice, front and back. However, the style looks similar to 90's skyline and the first GTR concept. Looking forward to production version in couple of years time. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

Ascariss
10-18-2005, 09:06 PM
Not a fan of the swept back headlights, other than that, it is an intriguing evolution. Wouldn't mind seeing it in blue though.

JBlair
10-18-2005, 09:26 PM
The more I see it, the more I like it. The concept has a certain odd-ball charm to it.

knihc2008
10-18-2005, 09:52 PM
ew. good luck with that, nissan.

joesuv86
10-18-2005, 09:58 PM
HOT.<br>awesome design....given the right power and price tag, could be a hit for nissan.

SELLER
10-18-2005, 11:50 PM
I'm sorry, but this concept is TERRIBLE, and I'm a HUGE GT-R fan.<p>-The rear I love.. its perfect<br>-The front is good, not many complaints.<br>-The roof is terrible, the line is absolutely 'Wrong'. And whats with the window having such a high 'Point' where the Roof and the A-pillar come together.<p>I'm glad this is just a concept, because a media Sh*& Storm is about to drop all over Nissan, without a doubt.<p>I cant believe Carlos Ghosn signed off on this concept.

Gian86
10-19-2005, 02:36 AM
Pics from Motor show today:<p><IMG SRC="http://response.jp/issue/2005/1019/article75459_1.images/96862.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://response.jp/issue/2005/1019/article75459_1.images/96863.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://response.jp/issue/2005/1019/article75459_1.images/96865.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://response.jp/issue/2005/1019/article75459_1.images/96866.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Source: response.jp<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0">

The Water Is Poison
10-19-2005, 02:39 AM
Definately better than the sketches

The Stig
10-19-2005, 05:07 AM
There are areas of this car that I love and others that I hate.<p>The rear is gorgeous, the front is nice, but the center grill reminds me too much of the new Eclipse.<p>I dont understand the window line.<p>But when it all comes together, it isnt a bad package. <p>I would definately consider it over a 911.

nismo
10-19-2005, 12:25 PM
Whoa... I like. I want to see it in person. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/embeer.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Styling is unique, fresh, and Nissan...

Santeno
10-19-2005, 01:28 PM
WHAT HAPPENED???<p>It's almost identical to the <A HREF="http://www.jbskyline.net/V35/GTR/" TARGET="_blank">GT-R concept from 2001</A>. They swore up and down that they wouldn't follow the styling of that concept and almost 5 years later this is what they come up with? In case you haven't noticed I'm less than impressed. Me and my disapointment are heading over to the local corvette dealer.

knihc2008
10-19-2005, 01:57 PM
i personally think the gt-R of 2001 even looks better, more exotic than this. i'm a japanese car fan up and down but who would honestly buy this over a Z06?

siko
10-19-2005, 02:40 PM
All I can say is WOW. It looks sexy... really distict and very imposing! Hope we'll se it in NA.<p>AMS has a small pic gallery here: <A HREF="http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/news/auto_und_produkte/nissan_gt_r_proto.94089.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://www.auto-motor-und-spor...9.htm</A>

knicks125
10-19-2005, 06:52 PM
Tons of pics, available for downloads (hi + low res) from Nissan:<p><A HREF="http://press.nissan-global.com/TOKYO_MOTOR_SHOW_2005/EN/SHOW_CAR/gtr_proto.html#GTR_PROTO" TARGET="_blank">http://press.nissan-global.com...PROTO</A>

Gromit
10-20-2005, 04:33 AM
When it's released it will be a technical tour de force - naturally.<p>But the styling is oh so heavy-handed. Nastiest thing I've seen in ages.

The Stig
10-20-2005, 07:03 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knihc2008</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i personally think the gt-R of 2001 even looks better, more exotic than this. i'm a japanese car fan up and down but who would honestly buy this over a Z06?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Someone who would like 2 back seats (albeit small). Now to mention AWD versatility.<p>While I do agree that this GT-R isnt particurlarly exotic looking but in my opinion, the GT-R has never been a pretty car. It has been a heavy handed car that looked mean and had more than enough performance to back up its looks.<p>I think a lot of the GT-R's $$$ comes from things you DONT see- engine tuned by Cosworth, chassis by Lotus- its like a damn who's who of automotive greats.<p>I do think it should be in the $60-70k range- rumors of it being $80k seem a bit high to me.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by The Stig at 12:49 PM 10/20/2005</i>

Santeno
10-20-2005, 08:01 AM
I agree with the stig. Gotta love the list of names associated with this ride. IMHO, they should have added at least one more name to that list - the one of a famous designer. Nissan had an opportunity to come up with something truly special and unique, as opposed to a vehicle that looks more like a sum of after-market parts. while it's not as bad in this regard as previous GT-R's, I just feel that Nissan could have done far better and wasted it's opportunity.<p>Add to that the expected high price, and you have to wonder who in their right mind would buy one of these things instead of say... any new corvette model; an aftermarket mustang; a 911; an NSX; or most TVR's (at least from a performance to price POV). IMO buyers of this car are buying into the mystique of the name and not much else.

haji
10-20-2005, 08:41 AM
rather disappointed<p>the car at the motorshow is a mockup with no interior<br>probably with no engine or anything of that sort

phoenix1
10-20-2005, 10:42 AM
its ugly compared to the GT-R concept from 2001.

KebabGud
10-20-2005, 11:21 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Santeno</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">WHAT HAPPENED???<p>It's almost identical to the <A HREF="http://www.jbskyline.net/V35/GTR/" TARGET="_blank">GT-R concept from 2001</A>. They swore up and down that they wouldn't follow the styling of that concept and almost 5 years later this is what they come up with? In case you haven't noticed I'm less than impressed. Me and my disapointment are heading over to the local corvette dealer.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>they DID say it was a update on the 2001 consept

The Stig
10-20-2005, 12:38 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Santeno</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I agree with the stig. Gotta love the list of names associated with this ride. IMHO, they should have added at least one more name to that list - the one of a famous designer. Nissan had an opportunity to come up with something truly special and unique, as opposed to a vehicle that looks more like a sum of after-market parts. while it's not as bad in this regard as previous GT-R's, I just feel that Nissan could have done far better and wasted it's opportunity.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>As for hiring a big name designer for the Skyline... it isnt that easy. I mean you have to realize that this GT-R is much like a top of the line Skyline, or G35. Having a big design house just design the highest tier of the car would push it to supercar levels ($100k+). I mean zagato doesnt design the Porsche GT2, Pinafinarina doesnt design the Z06, so having a big name designer for the GT-R would have been possible, but at a higher price. And if anything, this next GT-R carries on the lineage that these cars do NOT look exotic, but competes on exotic levels.<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Add to that the expected high price, and you have to wonder who in their right mind would buy one of these things instead of say... any new corvette model; an aftermarket mustang; a 911; an NSX; or most TVR's (at least from a performance to price POV). IMO buyers of this car are buying into the mystique of the name and not much else.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Of the cars you listed, only two others have rear seats- the 911 and an aftermarket mustang. The others are strictly two seaters- highly competent ones granted, but I dont think they are in the GT-R scope. I think the GT-R is a 2+2, AWD techno tour-de-force, and I see it competing with more of the BMW M3's, Audi RS4's, 911's and other multipassenger cars. <p>

knihc2008
10-20-2005, 01:00 PM
seriously, who's gonna use the back seats -.-<p>who uses the back seats of a 911?

The Stig
10-21-2005, 04:20 AM
I'm thinking the back seat of the GT-R will be a little more spacious than a 911's since its based on the G35 platform, but those rear seats are useful.<p>Whether its a briefcase or backpack at the end of the day, a couple of knick-nacks, maps, CD's, who knows, the rear seat can gobble them up.<p>I'm also pretty sure that you can fit at least one child seat back there, not to mention some toddlers. I would much rather strap junior in a car seat in the back of my GT-R than have to take the Misses' car (or minivan <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bonk.gif" BORDER="0">) everytime I have to take the kids someplace.

Ash_Barrett
10-21-2005, 06:58 AM
This is a beautiful car but i prefer the previous one presented in 2001.<p>I don't understand why they waited so long to present a concept as close as the first one.<p>

haji
10-21-2005, 09:31 AM
guess they didnt have the budget to make one<br>besides its no use to make a concept car in 2003 when the planned launch year is only in 2007

knicks125
10-24-2005, 09:23 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><B>2005 Tokyo: Infiniti says it may add vehicles in U.S., could get GT-R</B><p>RICHARD JOHNSON | Automotive News <br>Posted Date: 10/24/05<p>TOKYO -- Infiniti is looking at expanding its U.S. lineup but is still working on the details, says Nissan Motor Co.'s head of global product development.<p>The brand may get a small SUV in the United States. Infiniti also could get Nissan's aggressively styled GT-R performance car, shown as a concept called the GT-R Proto at the motor show here. The GT-R will debut as a production car in two years.<p>The small SUV would be positioned below the Infiniti FX, providing a competitor for the BMW X3.<p>"It is possible, it is under study," said Carlos Tavares, Nissan's top product development executive. "But it will happen only if we confirm that we understand the customer for which we are going to do this car.<p>"Reinforcing or expanding the Infiniti lineup is something we might do," Tavares said. "But the first priority will be to support the (existing) premium models."<p>Nissan design chief Shiro Nakamura says the GT-R Proto is "very close to production -- 80 to 90 percent" of what the finished car will look like.<p>The GT-R long has been a Nissan icon in Japan. For the first time it will be sold in markets outside Japan. Nissan executives are debating whether to sell it in America as a Nissan or an Infiniti.<p>He said Nissan is moving toward a decision slowly. Two years ago Nissan unveiled a GT-R concept car, and this week it showed the GT-R Proto.<p>Nissan has not released powertrain or performance details. And Tavares says Nissan is not ready to announce a marketing strategy.<p>"Maybe we should apologize, but this is important for us, and we have to go step by step," he said. "We are very focused on performance and on very precise engine mode targets, and we will deliver accordingly.<p>"We really want this car to be a success. We don't want to disappoint our fans because we understand that there are a lot of expectations."</TD></TR></TABLE>