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Ascariss
11-01-2004, 12:24 AM
If you come across any prototypes in spy pictures, or you encounter any in real life and are not sure what they are, post the pictures or descriptions here. The members will do their best to help you identify the vehicle.<p>Which brings up this again:<p><IMG SRC="http://premium.uploadit.org/ascariss/E90_001.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://premium.uploadit.org/ascariss/E90_002.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>The rear lights are different than the actual 3er design that can be see in the press pics. So what is it, 1er sedan? 3er wagon rear lights (unlikely but who knows), or just a different design for the sedan's lights which were rejected. But why a complete shell of the car then? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

Dal
12-20-2004, 02:59 PM
it doesnt neccessarily have to be a whole different shell, the only difference to the final design of the e90 is the rear bootlid/trunk which houses a section of the rear lights, so it could be a different design of the bootlid/trunk

Ascariss
12-20-2004, 05:17 PM
That is what i mentioned to andre when we once talked about this.

davidChief
12-23-2004, 02:16 AM
Interesting... I'm pretty sure it's not a 1, but it doesn't look like the 3 either. Weird.

skoochythatone
12-23-2004, 03:53 AM
Is that body really that different to the E90 shell? I dont see a huge difference..can anybody maybe put pics of the shell and the E90 rear next to each other?

syclone
12-23-2004, 06:07 PM
<IMG SRC="http://premium.uploadit.org/ascariss/E90_001.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://response.jp/issue/2004/1026/article64990_1.images/75007.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>just for the sake of quick reference<p>i still cant tell. it would be clearer if i could see that character line along the side of the body that goes the whole way on the shell. i think its just a reflection tho

The Spy
12-25-2004, 03:33 AM
I'm pretty sure it's just a 3. I think that BMW just did a slight rework of the design during the development. And as it seems it's really just the rear bootlid, that's different. A change like that isn't that difficult. And as it seems they used it for a crash test, maybe because they couldn't use the prototype for other purposes?<p>It's not a rare event that manufacturers change the design of their cars during the development, Mercedes did the same with the new M-Class.

Hornbag
12-25-2004, 11:05 PM
3 series for sure

Charger
12-28-2004, 05:25 PM
What is this? This is from autoblog and here's what they say<br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks to super secret low key reader Adrian Black for sending this in. This one is a ford pickup truck ... probably the next F150 or something.. It was totally hidden under the black vinyl. Sorry the picture isnt better, there wasnt any traffic and he was speeding away from me! They always try to get away from me. Yes its the monday afternoon after Christmas and I know everyone is bored. Anyone care to pontificate as to what unreleased vehicle this may be? </TD></TR></TABLE><br>Its not the next gen F 150, thats way too early<br> <IMG SRC="http://www.weblogsinc.com/common/images/1871213788933180.JPG?0.7354719801759576" BORDER="0">

Flagship
12-29-2004, 04:15 PM
It could be the Lincoln Mark LT

MineralMan
12-29-2004, 04:17 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Charger</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What is this? This is from autoblog and here's what they say<p>Its not the next gen F 150, thats way too early<br> <IMG SRC="http://www.weblogsinc.com/common/images/1871213788933180.JPG?0.7354719801759576" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>My guess is that is the replacement for the Excursion. 2005 is the last year for Excursion production, to make room for more F250 and F350 trucks. To continue to compete with the Suburban/Yukon XL/Escalade ESV, Ford is bringing to market a stretched Expedition in 2007. <p>The front door frame is exactly the same as an Expeditions, and the rear wheels do not interfere with the rear door design (as the do on the Expedition), a quick visual clue as to whether or not you are looking at a Suburbon or a regular Tahoe.

BeeMer Boi
12-30-2004, 03:04 AM
Hi guys... im from GCF's,..but became rather intrigued at this "3er" spy pic.<p>After some long hard stares at little aspects of this bodyshell... i spotted a few differences, aside from the obvious differing lights.<p>I marked out a few of my observations..<p>A) Unlike the E90 3er which has a more smoother side merging with the bootlid... this bodyshell seems to have a more obtrusive style, ... which IMO signifies a more aggressive design.... ie: trying to look more "beefy".<p>B) While the new 3er's crease runs from the front wheel arch all the way to the rear light, this shell's crease ends just after the fuel-tank hatch.<p>C) If u compare the rear bumper split of the E90 3er, u will see that the 3er's line continues at the same angle as the shape of the rear light and then curves towards the rear wheel. Looking at the spy pic of this body shell, there is no curve, just a straight line from the bottom-right of the light compartment to the wheel arch.<p><br>My guess is as good as anyone's here..... so im guessing it might be the M3,..but that's just a long shot. <p><br><IMG SRC="http://img139.exs.cx/img139/5092/1010fb.jpg" BORDER="0"><br> <br><IMG SRC="http://response.jp/issue/2004/1026/article64990_1.images/75007.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0">

protocatcher
12-30-2004, 03:28 AM
M3 is not a bad guess

Omar
12-30-2004, 12:54 PM
I just came back from Dubai, and I saw some car being tested in the city centre, in Deira area.<p>At first I thought it was covered in tape because it was some crap car about to fall to pieces, but I soon realised it was actually a prototype.<p>I have no pictures, because the camera was in the suitcase, and I was just coming from the airport.<p>It was a sedan (saloon), didn't have that much tape on it, except on the lights. I think it was a Hyundai, the front badge appeared to be a Hyundai logo, although they tried to cover it up by using yellow tape in the shape of a +, so i guess they were trying to make it look like a Chevrolet.<p>I've never seen a prototype before, so it was quite cool. Anyone know what it was?

Andre
12-30-2004, 01:32 PM
I know the Sonata's been seen out there...<p>lemme dig up a few shots

vabboud
12-30-2004, 02:44 PM
you are right beemer boi, the changes are really extensive when compared to the E90<br>i'm gueesing this is either a very very early prototype or some new model (probably the 1er sedan but it does seem too large)<br>i'm baffled <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

sexy
01-01-2005, 02:28 PM
That might be a jeep commander not sure.it looks like it

Pedigreepaul
01-03-2005, 10:00 AM
Well taht's true..<p>edit: Removed the double picture..<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Pedigreepaul at 12:38 PM 1/4/2005</i>

sexy
01-03-2005, 10:15 AM
i didn't notice anything but now you mentioned it yeah there is

Pedigreepaul
01-03-2005, 10:37 AM
<IMG SRC="http://server3.uploadit.org/files/pedigreepaul-E90_002copy.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>Did anyone notice the large sticker on the top of the windshield and a piece of a front bumper inside the shell? These stickers are often used and put on crash cars.. I think this one's a crash shell from the 3 series.. Another thing I noticed is a opened hood and a piece of white on the dashboard.. Could be an airbag I guess..<p>edit: found a reliable picserver.. :D<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Pedigreepaul at 9:44 AM 1/3/2005</i>

gkracer98
01-05-2005, 05:55 PM
yeah..i agree with you. the front bumper in the car appears to have scuff marks on it..and the open hood, does seem to slope downward. the white on the dashboard could pass for an airbag. good guess

Innotech
01-06-2005, 03:29 AM
its obviously a crash tested car, but its not a normal 3 series because of the slightly revised trunk and taillight area. I doubt its a 1 series bevcause BMW wouldnt make both cars have the same bodywork like that. anymore. So it is either an M3 or else a prototype with different lights that didnt make it to production.<br>

Laguna
01-13-2005, 10:56 AM
Omar it could be an Hyundai Elantra,Sonata or Accent. How big was the sedan or saloon?

DoMiNo
01-17-2005, 02:09 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>sexy</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That might be a jeep commander not sure.it looks like it</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Nah... definitely a Ford. Same side mirrors as the F150. But I agree with the stretched Expedition theory... I thought about the Mark LT too, but the front window sill is straight at the bottom, not notched like the F150/Mark LT...

Charger
01-22-2005, 11:23 AM
I found this on allpar.com and some are saying its the new Avenger, the new <br>"Caliber" or a mule for a small suv but no one seems to know. Some think its not even a DCX model<br> <IMG SRC="http://www.allpar.com/forums/index.php?act=Attach&type=post&id=33" BORDER="0"> <br>source: allpar

nismo
01-22-2005, 12:48 PM
Did you notice the back wheels are turned? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/eek2.gif" BORDER="0"> I doubt thats a car coming to production.. looks like a concept thatwent wrong.

protocatcher
01-22-2005, 02:18 PM
Some strange sort of 4 wheel streering ???<br>Like nismo sayed , probably some kind of concept.

Gunfire
01-23-2005, 10:37 AM
It is just a custom-made stunt car.<p>Have a look:<p><A HREF="http://allearsnet.com/tp/mgm/m_stunt.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://allearsnet.com/tp/mgm/m_stunt.htm</A><p>Extract says:<p> * Vehicles featured include high-performance automobiles, motorcycles and stunt watercraft. Also, "surprise vehicles," including one designed to drive backwards and another designed to split in half.<p>Probably, the pic refers to the former.<br><IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

Pedigreepaul
01-24-2005, 02:25 AM
Yup.. another mystery solved..

Dal
02-01-2005, 04:17 AM
hey guys i have pics of the 3 series earlier in this thread with the different back lights, but the picture is the clay model version, so i can confirm it was just an early prototype

CARSRTHEWORLD
02-01-2005, 05:21 AM
plz show them!

Dal
02-01-2005, 10:56 AM
Thanks to ImageShack for <A HREF="http://www.imageshack.us" TARGET="_blank">Free Image Hosting</A><p><IMG SRC="http://img124.exs.cx/img124/8589/bmw305bem1987of.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://img124.exs.cx/img124/4858/bmw305bem1952wv.jpg" BORDER="0">

CARSRTHEWORLD
02-01-2005, 01:38 PM
wicked, thx for posting em!

Ascariss
02-05-2005, 06:35 PM
<A HREF="http://premium.uploadit.org/ascariss/E90_001.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://premium.uploadit.org/ascariss/E90_001.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://premium.uploadit.org/ascariss/E90_002.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://premium.uploadit.org/ascariss/E90_002.jpg</A><p>mystery solved, well its 100% confirmed now that it was a different design for the rear lights, which I personally prefer.<p><A HREF="http://premium1.uploadit.org/ascariss//rear11.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://premium1.uploadit.org/ascariss//rear11.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://premium1.uploadit.org/ascariss//rear22.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://premium1.uploadit.org/ascariss//rear22.jpg</A><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Ascariss at 4:47 PM 2/7/2005</i>

Ascariss
02-05-2005, 06:36 PM
Didn't see Dal posting the pics, lol.

LEXUS FAN!
02-07-2005, 10:12 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Ascariss</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><A HREF="http://premium.uploadit.org/ascariss/E90_001.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://premium.uploadit.org/ascariss/E90_001.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://premium.uploadit.org/ascariss/E90_002.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://premium.uploadit.org/ascariss/E90_002.jpg</A><p>mystery solved, well its 100% confirmed now that it was a different design for the rear lights, which I personally prefer.<p><A HREF="http://premium1.uploadit.org/ascariss//rear11.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://premium1.uploadit.org/ascariss//rear11.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://premium1.uploadit.org/ascariss//rear22.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://premium1.uploadit.org/ascariss//rear22.jpg</A><p><br><i>Modified by Ascariss at 4:47 PM 2/7/2005</i></TD></TR></TABLE><p>i'm confused<p>the 3-series coupe will have different taillights? or the sedan? or what?

Dal
02-08-2005, 03:30 PM
its a prototype of what it couldve looked like, but they opted for the ones that are now on the E90

skodamotorsport
02-16-2005, 03:13 PM
from ffoc<br><IMG SRC="http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/megatron/pics/Image007.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>some info on the area it was seen<p>That would be an aston martin around there i feel, their factory aint a million miles away from there!<p>Is that coming up to the roundabout at the bottom of Europa Way? There's a whole lot of upmarket car dealers on the right as you go over the roundabout -probably came from one of them. Damon Hill's BMW dealers there has some bentley and Aston's in from time to time.<p><br>some ppl think bentley some astons

Charger
02-16-2005, 03:17 PM
it looks like an Aston or an XK8

Dal
02-16-2005, 03:31 PM
jag xk8<br>

protocatcher
02-16-2005, 03:38 PM
Yepp, def Jag XK8

AM2K
02-17-2005, 03:47 PM
yeh, looks like its been snapped near Leamington / Warwick... looks like the cabrio version too. Nice pic!

Ascariss
02-26-2005, 02:51 PM
<IMG SRC="http://premium1.uploadit.org/ascariss//hondasw.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Honda Accord SW type R?<p>Is there one already on sale or is new?

against the wall
02-26-2005, 07:28 PM
im guessing accord sw type r cuz if u look at the bottom right of trunk where the name is u can kind of a see the name Accord and the red r

ricerammer
02-26-2005, 10:35 PM
Type S.

Tidal
02-27-2005, 06:28 AM
Yup. <p><A HREF="http://www.honda.co.uk/cars/newcars/modelHome.jsp?yearId=2005&modelId=10410&bodyId=10734&bodyDescription=Tourer&engineId=&badgeId=&transmissionId=&colourId=&colourAllocationId=&wheelPartNo=&source=modelHome" TARGET="_blank">http://www.honda.co.uk/cars/ne...lHome</A>

AU6I
03-01-2005, 02:30 AM
could be.

Grande Espace
03-18-2005, 08:36 AM
In Pakistan (im a Pakistani) I saw a Ford Ka (well thats what I call it) undisguised!!!! I have no idea when it is gonna come out but you will always see one. I was going to town with my family when I saw it. I have got no pics. It has a larger side/rear window than the current. Bigger headlights, Pointer, Bug-eyed tail lights. The whole car itself was bigger than the current. They are testing in Pakistan because theres hardly any photographers. Thats what an insider told me. i was hot-weather testing near the countryside.

Pedigreepaul
03-18-2005, 01:59 PM
Hmm.. this is a difficult one.. <p>I just looked at this picture and saw a car in the background.. Any idea what this is?<p>I thought a Maserati of a Ferrari.. <p><A HREF="http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/66413.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/66413.jpg</A>

Spy Guy
03-18-2005, 02:16 PM
No, thats no Ferrari or Maserati. Its just a BMW 5-series.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by GHPixx at 12:56 PM 3/19/2005</i>

jose the doood
03-18-2005, 05:21 PM
yeah .. the wagon is just an accord wagon ..

skoochythatone
03-20-2005, 03:11 PM
GHPixx, I know you have more experience than I do ;-) But why is the car in the background a 5-series? Look at the B-pillar, it looks coupe-like.<p>By the way, in that last pic, whats the black car in the front?

AM2K
03-21-2005, 06:21 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Pedigreepaul</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hmm.. this is a difficult one.. <p>I just looked at this picture and saw a car in the background.. Any idea what this is?<p>I thought a Maserati of a Ferrari.. <p><A HREF="http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/66413.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/66413.jpg</A></TD></TR></TABLE><p>The location of where this jaguar was snapped is a test track where volvo is also testing. So this must mean that it is a Ford / PAG test track... <p>It could be a car being used for competitor analysis, or maybe a PAG / Ford product... im sure if it was important enough, it would have been snapped though by the snapper at a more close up angle...

Spy Guy
03-21-2005, 07:41 AM
@ skootchy<p>I know that because I took those pictures and so I have the higher resolution at home. But which "last pic" do you mean?<p>@ AM2K<p>It is not a spezial PAG / Ford test track. It belongs to another company where lots of different cars are tested. BMW is also working there...<p><br><i>Modified by GHPixx at 6:46 AM 3/21/2005</i><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by GHPixx at 6:48 AM 3/21/2005</i>

AM2K
03-21-2005, 01:04 PM
cheers for the info ghpixx!<p>by any chance, did you see any other Ford PAG products testing out there? if so, what were they? I'm curious what they have got testing out there this winter..

skoochythatone
03-21-2005, 03:16 PM
GHPixx, I already solved my own personal mystery..haha..I didnt know it was the Jag Convertible in your pic. But are you really sure the car in the background is a 5series? <br><A HREF="http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/66413.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://bilder.autobild.de/bilder/1/66413.jpg</A><br>

Spy Guy
03-21-2005, 11:53 PM
Yes Im still sure about that:<p> <IMG SRC="http://www.arcor.de/palb/alben/11/88111/1024_6234616133373165.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>

Spy Guy
03-22-2005, 12:21 AM
But what is this? These Audi A4 facelift tail lamps are different from the series ones:<p> <IMG SRC="http://www.arcor.de/palb/alben/11/88111/400_6637653963346564.jpg" BORDER="0"><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

CARSRTHEWORLD
03-22-2005, 03:23 AM
A8 maybe getting a refresh, or just a normal a4, looks pretty normal to me!

skoochythatone
03-22-2005, 04:13 AM
It is not normal, check this picture of the A4 avant out off the Audi website:<br><IMG SRC="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v39/skoochythatone/800_600_a4_08.jpg" BORDER="0">

CARSRTHEWORLD
03-22-2005, 04:16 AM
it looks pretty much the same just with a white bit?

Aidan
03-30-2005, 05:56 AM
It's probably just someone decided to 'ice' a bit of there tail lights<br>

Santeno
04-13-2005, 12:07 PM
This prototype was caught testing in Korea. the badge says Kia, and judging from the styling, I'm inclined to agree that it is a Kia (or at least a hyundai). Does anyone know what it might be so we can start a thread on it?<p><A HREF="http://www.bobaedream.co.kr/board/data/data_view.php?code=special&No=33045&page=1&select=&content" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bobaedream.co.kr/bo...ntent</A>=

knicks125
04-13-2005, 12:24 PM
first impression, the sportage but this is too small to be it<p>might be a new crossover Kia is developing, you never know...Kia did talk about introducing a lot of new models over the next few upcoming years<p>but i have no doubt this is in fact a KIA...otherwise it would just be stupid to use KIA's badge if the car is not a KIA <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Wish I could read Korean <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emdgust.gif" BORDER="0">

Santeno
04-13-2005, 01:30 PM
I'm guessing it's a variant of the new Rio, Spectra or a Carens replacement. any ideas?

knicks125
04-13-2005, 01:40 PM
It looks too small to be the Carens...<p>A Rio variant sounds like a good idea!<p>or maybe it's a brand new model<p>Placing this pic in the general auto discussion section would probably get more response, perhaps <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

CARSRTHEWORLD
04-14-2005, 02:02 AM
do you guys want a translation, cos i got a couple of friends who are from korea, perhaps they could translate it for us if u want?

r3vilo
04-14-2005, 04:09 AM
Its not much help. It just says its a test vehicle.

elvisluvs
04-22-2005, 09:29 AM
Hi everyone- "2nd times a charm " over at vwvortex's car lounge posted this- hope this is ok to post- <A HREF="http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1950447" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=1950447</A>

carrera4
04-22-2005, 09:31 AM
It's a Toyota Vitz/Yaris

elvisluvs
04-22-2005, 09:34 AM
Thanks carrera4- that was fast <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

carrera4
04-22-2005, 09:36 AM
that's because I've seen similar photos on autobild.de <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

Roadster44
04-22-2005, 09:40 AM
Testing in US? Does it mean it'll replace Scion Xa? Not the boxy one the other smoother model.

Ascariss
04-26-2005, 01:50 PM
Nto sure if it's going to replace the xA, but the new Yaris will be on sale in Canada this fall as a 2006 model.

Andre
04-26-2005, 11:45 PM
It will be three and five door sold in the US and can, dunno if a sedan will be offered<p>more spy shots and info<p><A HREF="http://www.japanesecarfans.com/spyphotos.cfm/spyphotoid/6050415.001" TARGET="_blank">http://www.japanesecarfans.com...5.001</A><br><A HREF="http://www.japanesecarfans.com/news.cfm/newsid/2050415.002" TARGET="_blank">http://www.japanesecarfans.com...5.002</A><p>the Kia shot further up is a new Rio5, which has already been unveiled<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Andre at 11:56 PM 4/26/2005</i>

Top Secret
04-27-2005, 12:10 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Santeno</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm guessing it's a variant of the new Rio, Spectra or a Carens replacement. any ideas?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>It's a Carens replacement - it says up at the top. (In Korean though.)

Andre
05-11-2005, 07:56 PM
Again, it's the new Rio5 hatchback, which may already be on sale in Korea

RikfromBelgium
06-07-2005, 10:50 AM
I took this with the webcam in Mnchen to look at the construction of BMW welt. At first sight it looks like Z4, with the curve in the sides. But the rear lights look different, and the car has a differnt shape. Can you guy's think of something?<p><A HREF="http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0RgAOA90V!huDim4GbHZJBdFc5FlkeleRAZAG1L1*OLUPSATJd Erbn8aGhWAqXoxCYMwZniOqeQo56As7OjC5GuqcFoyua7Y894A eIIH5CTM/screenshot.jpg?dc=4675525648693287436" TARGET="_blank">http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/...87436</A><br><A HREF="http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0RQD3AmYUVr8e9*TpgfgA8FsM2CHTLToR*D5LvaYoSc7zkzO8b FW3VuljYbY9JEXfA*Xqt4OwQ3JwiQ9JLn8ptHyKquOKn*yqHP4 ZAtDjvNw/image0040.jpg?dc=4675525648688271869" TARGET="_blank">http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/...71869</A><br><A HREF="http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0RQANA2QU3r4e9*TpgfgA8Ip9vBSGmUd0g!K9GgBtPWsVuntpc DpxqhlKDK*XZoFnlnNKcxncWXineDuSgwHALZAOSkrkzeQl39x zKlZFbFI/image0020.jpg?dc=4675525648673975991" TARGET="_blank">http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/...75991</A><br>

KebabGud
06-07-2005, 10:57 AM
first thing that comes to mind is .. Z4 coupe...

r3vilo
06-07-2005, 11:11 AM
its too blurry... but maybe Z4 coupe.

Omar
06-07-2005, 11:42 AM
The silver one is possibly a 3-series coupe? (the current model, of course)<p>EDIT: hey, are we talking about the silver car or the black one <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/scared.gif" BORDER="0">?? <p>If it's the Black one, then <b>OMG WTF. You're onto something there Rik!!!</b><br>The black one looks weird, the rear lights look like the 5-series.<p>I reckon that's either a <u>facelifted Z4</u>, or it's the <u>Z2</u>. There simply aren't any other BMW's of that length. But the Z2 seems quite a distance away, I don't think it exists in metal yet.<p>So it must be a <b><u>facelifted Z4</b></u>. However, that might be a canvas roof - the roof is black and it's difficult to distinguish whether it's a metal roof or a canvas roof. So that may not be a coupe.<p>Good spot Rik! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/eek2.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><i>Modified by omar at 7:51 PM 6/7/2005</i><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by omar at 7:53 PM 6/7/2005</i>

the future
06-07-2005, 11:54 AM
Z4 with hard top?<p><IMG SRC="http://a.focus.de/D/DL/DLB/DLBE/DLBEA/UPLOAD/HBLAAJiaykd.jpg" BORDER="0"><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by freeezer at 11:59 AM 6/7/2005</i>

Andre
06-07-2005, 04:22 PM
It looks too big and fluffy to be a Z4. 1er or 2er

Superfresa
06-08-2005, 10:06 AM
What is this? a friend sent it to me, I don't know the origin of it...<p><A HREF="http://img243.echo.cx/img243/4481/15426mv.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img243.echo.cx/img243/4481/15426mv.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://img243.echo.cx/img243/7004/10424xe.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img243.echo.cx/img243/7004/10424xe.jpg</A><p><A HREF="http://img243.echo.cx/img243/4761/05285rg.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img243.echo.cx/img243/4761/05285rg.jpg</A><p>Doesn't look bad though It looks like a studio car ?

against the wall
06-08-2005, 12:42 PM
well obviously its a ferrari cuz it says it on the car. but those r pretty old

Superfresa
06-08-2005, 06:42 PM
Yeah well obviously, but what ferrari, or is it official, or is it someone just rendering his designs or what is it...

Ascariss
06-08-2005, 06:51 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>R Performance</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah well obviously, but what ferrari, or is it official, or is it someone just rendering his designs or what is it...</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I believe it's just a render. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

~*~STORM~*~
06-08-2005, 09:10 PM
They <B><U>are</U></B> computer renders of a model of a ferrari made by dgfdesign students or something. Tha name of the ferrari is "Aurea".<p>This site is in italian so if anybody would like to transalate it..<p><A HREF="http://www.dgfdesign.it/Design/Car%20design/Aurea/Ferrari_Aurea_1.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://www.dgfdesign.it/Design...1.htm</A>

r3vilo
06-09-2005, 04:05 AM
amybe its the rumored Super Enzo

zwei Biere bitte
06-12-2005, 08:33 PM
Teaser of the next Z4? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1zhelp.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><IMG SRC="http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/picture_library/dir_40/car_portal_pic_20208.jpg" BORDER="0">

jahc24
06-15-2005, 08:02 PM
<br>What is car?<p><IMG SRC="http://www.ewanskelly.net/galleries/photos_scoops/scoops/unknown/IMG_3404.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p><IMG SRC="http://www.ewanskelly.net/galleries/photos_scoops/scoops/unknown/IMG_3408.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.ewanskelly.net/galleries/photos_scoops/scoops/unknown/IMG_3409.jpg" BORDER="0">

against the wall
06-16-2005, 08:08 AM
the 1st one looks like a commander. i dunno about the others though. its definetly a dcx vehicle cuz look at the rims on the car above the commander. dodge rims

Max Headroom
06-17-2005, 12:18 AM
The covered car seems to be the new Opel Corsa.

skoochythatone
06-17-2005, 09:12 AM
The top one must be a DCX vehicle as it uses DCX testing rims. The bottoms ones might be new Opel Corsa as Max stated, the overall shape matches perfectly.

Pedigreepaul
06-17-2005, 12:25 PM
The first thing I thought was new Mini, but If I look closer, I see some blue tape on the back of the car on the first pic..<br>This is exactly the same tape as used on the spotted prototypes, so Corsa it is..

Sgt Beavis
06-18-2005, 06:39 AM
That bottom car could certainly be the Dodge Calibur.

FordRules
06-24-2005, 03:26 PM
me 2 i think its the caliber

Andre
06-27-2005, 09:24 AM
Nope, too large and square, not to mention the Jeep rims. (not cheap). It's the Commander

LEXUS FAN!
06-27-2005, 05:55 PM
I was driving on the 405 around Costa Mesa to Brookhurst, and I saw a spy car with coverings around it, but I don't know what it was.<p>It was a cheaper looking compact car. It had those fake taillights that I know Toyota has used on the IS and the super sportscar. It had an opening for hte headlights that was a bit small. The body of the car was similar to the IS, in regards to the shape; however, the size was a compact car. In a way it looked like a Kia or Hyundai or something, but I can't tell. It could have been a Toyota Coralla, but I don't think so. It had Michigan license plates, but it didn't look like an American car.<p>My guess would be a Kia or Hyundai. Does anyone have any predictions based on what cars are coming out and what cars have been getting tested?<p>I WAS SO EXCITED BECAUSE IT WAS MY FIRST SPY CAR I HAVE EVER SEEN!!! I wish I had a camera.<p><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by LEXUS FAN! at 9:34 AM 6/28/2005</i>

schmoehe
06-30-2005, 05:07 AM
what the f**k is this?<p>pics made @ 29.06.2005 in Stuttgart<br>have you any idea?<p><IMG SRC="http://www.bennog.de/pics/001.jpg" BORDER="0"> <br><IMG SRC="http://www.bennog.de/pics/002.jpg" BORDER="0">

RikfromBelgium
06-30-2005, 05:11 AM
Looks like a Ssangyong, that new SUV

schmoehe
06-30-2005, 07:08 AM
Ssangyong in stuttgart? germany? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>maybe ford?

Reppu
06-30-2005, 07:28 AM
It is the new Ssanyong indeed

RikfromBelgium
06-30-2005, 08:25 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>schmoehe</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ssangyong in stuttgart? germany? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>maybe ford?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>They are powerd by MB engine's so it's not that impossible

Pedigreepaul
06-30-2005, 11:10 AM
Definately a SsangYong Kyron

Spy Guy
07-07-2005, 11:42 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>schmoehe</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ssangyong in stuttgart? germany? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>maybe ford?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yes, cause of the DC engines.

Spy Guy
07-07-2005, 11:53 PM
Here are some pics of the actual Golf how it should look before the little restyle. So its a f***ing old prototype.<br>They changed some little details of the headlights, the mirrows and the tail lights. Enjoy...<p> <IMG SRC="http://www.arcor.de/palb/alben/11/88111/400_6630353934663435.jpg" BORDER="0"><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.arcor.de/palb/alben/11/88111/400_6533363764663337.jpg" BORDER="0"><br> <IMG SRC="http://www.arcor.de/palb/alben/11/88111/400_6436633061663063.jpg" BORDER="0">

ToyotaFreak
07-08-2005, 12:19 AM
I actually like the rear taillights of that Golf. I wonder what are they going to do to the car?<p>Sell it(The car or maybe part by part) off? Let it rot away in the sun(NOOOO!!!!)? Or a trip to the crusher(NOOOOO!!!!!)?

Spy Guy
07-08-2005, 12:46 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ToyotaFreak</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I actually like the rear taillights of that Golf. I wonder what are they going to do to the car?<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>No you misunderstood me. THATS the style of the taillights BEFORE it came on the market a few years ago. But they changed the design shortly before they started the car. So this is why I said it is a very old prototype.

Pedigreepaul
07-10-2005, 10:09 AM
Check out those rims on the car beside the Golf on the first pic! Those aren't regular I think..

Spy Guy
07-10-2005, 10:53 PM
Those rims are the "Parabol" Rims of the Audi TT and the car beside the Golf is a Polo GTI.<p> <IMG SRC="http://mediaservice.audi.com/media/mmdb/50100/50046-2006/GPRLPRL/ak_l_motiv.jpg" BORDER="0">

Ascariss
07-10-2005, 11:02 PM
Thanks for the pictures GHPixx, appreciated. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0"> Interesting to see the mirror design before, I personally like the ones on the actual car than these. Not sure on the rear lights though.

Soobyfreak
07-12-2005, 03:06 PM
yesterday i was walking home and i saw a G35 sedan wit camo in the front and rear bumper and the hood. it had a bumper that appeared to be similar to the coupes and had a raised hood. it also had the same exhaust as the coupe. what is this? is it a higher performance G35.

AXLE
07-13-2005, 07:57 PM
Shoulda had a camera on ya!

KebabGud
07-14-2005, 03:04 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Soobyfreak</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yesterday i was walking home and i saw a G35 sedan wit camo in the front and rear bumper and the hood. it had a bumper that appeared to be similar to the coupes and had a raised hood. it also had the same exhaust as the coupe. what is this? is it a higher performance G35.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>hmm .. the G35 just had a facelift didt it?<br>hmm might be a limited edition coming out to celabrate the 50 years of skyline.. <br>(first skyline came in 1957.. well sort off.. some say 1955 some say 1957.. some say both)<br>but then again.. the G35 is not sold as a skyline.. :/ (do they even use the skyline history to sell the car?)<br>hmm .. odd one that one..

Fabia SDI Elegance
07-14-2005, 09:52 PM
Which car is it? (looks like ION/Cobalt):<p><IMG SRC="http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/8750/spy10tq.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/7954/spy20hd.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6106/spy32rc.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/8435/spy43tj.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/9912/spy59zg.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><br>It's my first spy car I ever seen (Michigan M-59).<p><br><i>Modified by Fabia SDI Elegance at 12:11 AM 7/15/2005</i><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Fabia SDI Elegance at 1:26 PM 7/15/2005</i>

LEXUS FAN!
07-14-2005, 11:13 PM
i wonder what that is...maybe a cobalt

JBlair
07-14-2005, 11:16 PM
Ion perhaps?

Andre
07-14-2005, 11:35 PM
My guess is Nissan Sentra. GM will not be redoing the ION or Cobalt anytime soon, the Civic looks nothing like that, Corolla is still a year off for spy shots, we've seen pics of the Elantra, Spectra is brand new, it seems too big and American for the Echo replacement.<p>Not to mention that C pillar and trunk design remind me of the Nissan Maxima.

Chris_Doane
07-14-2005, 11:52 PM
DCX recently had that same kind of camo (the funky black and white covering on the door panels) on the Dodge Caliber. It's almost like they are trying to make it look like those "magic eye" 3-D images.<p>So it could be some kind of Chrysler car...not sure if its big enough to be the next Stratus.

LEXUS FAN!
07-15-2005, 12:35 AM
doesn't ford usually use that type of spy design on their cars to cover it up

husseindesign
07-15-2005, 03:29 AM
Most likely a Mitsubishi Galant.. maybe facelift <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

DerPhaeton
07-15-2005, 06:02 AM
<br>I kinda want to disagree. I think these prototypes are more recent. Look at the Phaeton next too it, it wasnt unveiled till 2003. The mirrors include those turnsignals, which is a recent VW trend, which first appeared in 2003. Why would VW design a golf like this and then revert it back to much more traditional, and conservative styling without keeping some of the details like the mirrors and the tail lights. I think that all in all this is a much more recent prototype than maybe you are leading us to believe. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0">

Fabia SDI Elegance
07-15-2005, 10:52 AM
Car looks too small, like Cobalt and has a Manufacturer Plate...maybe it's a new Neon?<p>

The Water Is Poison
07-15-2005, 04:51 PM
Well the neon is supposed to be dead? isnt it?

oversteer
07-15-2005, 05:21 PM
The 3 head rests in the back tell us it's more up market, I dont think DC is going to put 3 on the back seat of a compact car. <br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>For a second there i was thinking Mazda3 ? but the C-pillar is all wrong.<br>Hmmm <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/werd.gif" BORDER="0">

Andre
07-16-2005, 10:18 AM
This is the Sentra, I'm about 99% sure of it. let me go find a picture, but the C pillar, rear window, headline, and overall body shape resembles that of the Nissan Maxima

Andre
07-16-2005, 10:20 AM
<IMG SRC="http://www.totalupload.com/uploads/c0484be411.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/6106/spy32rc.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Also look at the spokes, def not GM judging by those wheels

LEXUS FAN!
07-17-2005, 11:46 PM
it is the Saturn Aura b/c in this month's MT there is a spy shot of the Aura with the same camo, and it is the same color

caarmike
07-19-2005, 05:25 PM
I'd say its almost big enough to be the Altima, which is scheduled for a refresh in '07. It certainly has enough Nissan styling cues, although those side strakes remind me of a Corvette.

knicks125
07-19-2005, 05:32 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>caarmike</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'd say its almost big enough to be the Altima, which is scheduled for a refresh in '07. It certainly has enough Nissan styling cues, although those side strakes remind me of a Corvette.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I was under the impression the Altima would be undergoing for a redesign for 07, and at which time a hybrid version would be introduced with technology from Toyota <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

Chris_Doane
07-19-2005, 08:07 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>LEXUS FAN!</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it is the Saturn Aura b/c in this month's MT there is a spy shot of the Aura with the same camo, and it is the same color</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Ermm...naw thats not it. It's a DCX car.

Santeno
07-20-2005, 01:44 PM
any ideas of what this might be:<p><A HREF="http://www.bobaedream.co.kr/board/data/data_view.php?code=special&No=37246&page=1&select=&content" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bobaedream.co.kr/bo...ntent</A>=<p>I believe it's a daewoo magnus, but I'm not certain.

knicks125
07-20-2005, 02:20 PM
Doesn't look like a magnus although I could be wrong.<p>Some sources are saying this is the next (well, the first glimpse) of the new Hyundai RWD sedan...we'll see <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

caarmike
07-20-2005, 05:10 PM
Going back to the white car from Michigan. I can see why some people think its DCX, because its propotionally similar to the Dodge Avenger concept from 2003. However, I think it just dosen't show the kind of character that goes into Chrysler Group's latest designs. Plus, Chrysler dosen't do arched rooflines like that anymore.<br>I think its hard to pin down what this thing is beacuse its so generic. Anyone could have built it. Maybe its Chinese.

caarmike
07-20-2005, 06:37 PM
Okay, I have another guess on the white car. Maybe its the all-steel 2007 Saturn Ion.<p>Since we know that the Saturn factory in Spring is retooling in '07. Its safe to assume that the Ion wil become a steel bodied car based on the Chevy Cobalt.<p>The lines of this car are like an Aura and the proportions are like a Cobalt. So I think it just makes sense.

against the wall
07-20-2005, 07:06 PM
i thought the aura was the cobalt twin.

Ascariss
07-21-2005, 01:09 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bonzos montreaux</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i thought the aura was the cobalt twin.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>No Aura is larger than the cobalt. cobalt is focus territory, aura is fusion.

knicks125
07-21-2005, 05:24 AM
mystery solved on the unknown Santeno posted <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><A HREF="http://www.carspyshots.net/zeropost?cmd=tshow&id=16038" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carspyshots.net/zer...16038</A>

against the wall
07-21-2005, 09:38 AM
i think its definetly a dcx vehicle of some sort. look at the chrysler grille. my first guess: dcx is switching the neon nameplate from dodge to chrysler.<br>second guess: its not a chrysler and its a mercedes (kinda looks like a mercedes grille also) compact car smaller than the c-class. im probably wrong though. but its just my opinion.

carrera4
07-21-2005, 09:42 AM
the grille looks like the crossfire one...

against the wall
07-21-2005, 09:46 AM
maybe a production airflite. the bumper kinda looks similar to the airflite.<br>edit: im sticking with my airflite theory. the bumper is nearly identical to the crossfire not the airflite. but its close to the airflite and the crossfire is basically an airflite coupe so...yea.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by bonzo's montreaux at 10:04 AM 7/21/2005</i>

Tidal
07-21-2005, 01:46 PM
So this could be the new Sebring?

caarmike
07-21-2005, 04:53 PM
I think there's enough evidence to convict this of being the new Sebring. <br>1. The slatted grille.<br>2. The roofline looks much flatter in these views, much more in line with existing Chrysler styling.<br>3. The gauges are like a Dodge Magnum.<br>4. Its clearly a midsize.<br>Shows what a few good megapixels can do.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by caarmike at 5:28 PM 7/21/2005</i>

Chris_Doane
07-21-2005, 05:18 PM
Please do NOT post the actual photos. Post URL text links.

LEXUS FAN!
07-21-2005, 06:56 PM
it looks kind of like a Cadillac grill, but it is definitely not a cadillac, and the closest thing to it is a chrysler<p>is DCX, daimler chrsyler x???

against the wall
07-21-2005, 07:01 PM
lf it does kind of look like a caddy grille but there are differences. i thought the same thing. the cadillac grille isnt as curvy as the one shown here. in the cadillac grille. you can see the horizontal bars and the vertical bars very clearly and in this you can see more horizontal than vertical like the chrysler grille.

carrera4
07-22-2005, 06:33 AM
what about this one?<br><A HREF="http://www.autoweek.com/images/news/102821" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoweek.com/images/news/102821</A>

Santeno
07-22-2005, 07:05 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>carrera4</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what about this one?<br><A HREF="http://www.autoweek.com/images/news/102821" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoweek.com/images/news/102821</A></TD></TR></TABLE><br>It's been identified as a Lexus IS Coupe prototype testing under a shortened shell of a toyota crown.

LEXUS FAN!
07-24-2005, 06:23 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Santeno</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>It's been identified as a Lexus IS Coupe prototype testing under a shortened shell of a toyota crown.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>autoweek actually thinks it is a prototype of a Lexus car that is supposed to compete with the 6 series...maybe the next SC???

Santeno
07-26-2005, 06:29 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>LEXUS FAN!</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">autoweek actually thinks it is a prototype of a Lexus car that is supposed to compete with the 6 series...maybe the next SC???</TD></TR></TABLE><br>The SC is not due for replacement yet. Lexus has expressed it's desire to introduce another sport coupe and/or convertible coupe to slot in below the existing SC. Something more focused on sport that the current SC. In this way they end up with the existing high end luxury boulevard cruiser, and a smaller sport oriented coupe and/or convertible. That is most likely what we are looking at.

Santeno
07-26-2005, 10:00 AM
BTW, has this been posted yet:<p><A HREF="http://autospy.dreamwiz.com/board/bbs/table/spyshot2/upload/SV400809.JPG" TARGET="_blank">http://autospy.dreamwiz.com/bo...9.JPG</A><p>I believe it might be the new accent, however that car is already on sale, and this one has a taller grill. could it be a variant of the accent?

LEXUS FAN!
07-26-2005, 11:58 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Santeno</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>The SC is not due for replacement yet. Lexus has expressed it's desire to introduce another sport coupe and/or convertible coupe to slot in below the existing SC. Something more focused on sport that the current SC. In this way they end up with the existing high end luxury boulevard cruiser, and a smaller sport oriented coupe and/or convertible. That is most likely what we are looking at.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>it is getting a freshening (see new car section), but you are right it is not due for a replacement...i was just giving some idea<p>it could be a mule for the LF-A<p>the convertible below the SC would be the variant of the IS...i don't think they will make one between the IS and SC<p>who knows though

Santeno
07-26-2005, 02:10 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>LEXUS FAN!</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the convertible below the SC would be the variant of the IS...</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Correct. the same goes for any possible coupe. They don't however have to share the same bodywork (though that's possible). It's one of those vehicle that that mule is believed to be.

LEXUS FAN!
07-26-2005, 02:18 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Santeno</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Correct. the same goes for any possible coupe. They don't however have to share the same bodywork (though that's possible). It's one of those vehicle that that mule is believed to be.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>i know...i was just stating that autoweek thought it was a mule for a 6 series competitor :)

knicks125
07-26-2005, 02:32 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Santeno</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">BTW, has this been posted yet:<p><A HREF="http://autospy.dreamwiz.com/board/bbs/table/spyshot2/upload/SV400809.JPG" TARGET="_blank">http://autospy.dreamwiz.com/bo...9.JPG</A><p>I believe it might be the new accent, however that car is already on sale, and this one has a taller grill. could it be a variant of the accent?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I don't think that spy shot has been posted but I am with you the picture resembles the new Accent. It's not yet on sale here in US but I assumed it has already in its home market <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0"> however, you brought up a good point about why they are still covered - <B>could they be hybrid versions</B> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

against the wall
07-29-2005, 01:49 PM
it looks like the new accent from the front. but theres no side view so i dunno.

Miyka'el
07-29-2005, 02:16 PM
It is definitely the new Hyundai Accent. I agree with you, <I>knicks125</I>: the Accent Hybrid is the most likely identification. There must be some minor styling differences to distinguish the models -- otherwise, it wouldn't make sense to be driving around with the cladding on! I admit, however, that I can't make any out for sure... though the forward portion of the protective side strip does appear to have been replaced with a repeater lamp, and the wheels are new.<p>Mike

ricerammer
08-02-2005, 01:39 AM
That is a Jeep Commander. The covered ones are a Dodge Caliber, which is the US Neon replacement.

ricerammer
08-02-2005, 01:42 AM
holy crap. That is the car I saw in Detroit and I told Superfresa about. I thought it was maybe an Aura, but it looks way to small. It's gotta be an Ion. Definitely not a Cobalt, it's not even the right shape. Awesome, awesome pictures dude.

michman10
08-10-2005, 05:51 AM
Any ideas on this one?<p><A HREF="http://img355.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0060ui.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/6821/picture0060ui.th.jpg" BORDER="0"></A><p><A HREF="http://img65.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture0070ew.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/1582/picture0070ew.th.jpg" BORDER="0"></A>

The Kia Man
08-10-2005, 06:50 AM
Ford Explorer?

boston
08-10-2005, 08:47 AM
Next Gen Ford Expedition, but not big enough for the "Max". <br>Why not the Explorer? <br>The 2006 Explorer exhaust is on the drivers side of the vehicle not the passenger side as in the photos. Also the 06 is "out" now

michman10
08-10-2005, 10:14 AM
The photo was taken in Auburn Hills by Chrysler HQ. It had a honeycomb grille on it.

caarmike
08-11-2005, 05:19 PM
My instinct is that its an Expedition, possibly a new sport model or "Max" extended model.<p>But since you saw it near Chrysler HQ there's a small possibility its the new Chrylser "Aspen" SUV.

napoleondyna
08-14-2005, 12:37 PM
OK, i was is KIngston, AZ i saw like 5 test cars but something caught my eye... a merceds A-740 in the US next to a masked up dodge looking thing. then i looked close at the dodge tester and realized that the pillars looked almost exactly the same as th A class. does any one know what this car is? thank you <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1zhelp.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/cwm13.gif" BORDER="0">

KebabGud
08-15-2005, 03:37 AM
i hope the A-740 is a truck... for a 7,4liter (or something) is WAY to big for a A-class :P

ricerammer
08-15-2005, 08:55 PM
That could very well be an Expedition Max or something similar. Nice catch bud.

against the wall
08-15-2005, 09:40 PM
michman, just out of curiosity, did that car have a chrome side panel as well as chrome doorhandles? if it did, it could be a facelifted navigator that could be coming with a facelifted explorer. just a guess....

FordRules
08-16-2005, 01:28 PM
definatly a expedition(NOT MAX)

StevenZoz
08-17-2005, 08:53 PM
Not the comander... look at the rims they are charger/300 rims. my guess= Chrysler Aspen.

against the wall
08-17-2005, 09:10 PM
those are commander rims. the charger rims are above the mystery suv. i do think the suv is a commander not the aspen. the aspen is in development with the durango, not the commander. unless the commander is developed with the durango and i dont know.

Chris_Doane
08-18-2005, 10:06 AM
It is definitely a vehicle in the Ford family as that is the kind of camo Ford uses.

FordRules
08-19-2005, 02:30 PM
Its 100% percent expedition.Final Answer.The aspen is a durango so that is too long to be a durango.SO its not an Aspen. Its definatly a ford.It looks like one and it is one. And the 2007 Expedition is being redesigned so it it.

FordRules
08-19-2005, 02:40 PM
OR its a navigator,same thing anyways

StevenZoz
08-19-2005, 07:03 PM
ford wouldn't have an expedition with a bunch of chargers. nor would chrysler. plus the back lights aren't commander lights. there would be no need for jeep to hide the lights as late as june because the official design of the car was released in april at nyias.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by stevenzoz at 10:10 PM 8/19/2005</i>

mrb83sxt02
08-22-2005, 11:10 AM
it is the 2007 Chrysler Sebring<p><A HREF="http://www.thecarconnection.com/Enthusiasts/Spy_Shots/Spy_Shots_07_Chrysler_Sebring.S178.A9001.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.thecarconnection.co....html</A>

bolita
08-25-2005, 12:14 PM
Buick? Mules for the Chinese market?? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

Nodnarb
08-29-2005, 07:17 PM
<A HREF="http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2162654" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=2162654</A> <p>These appear to be Zeta mules. But this isn't confirmed. And since it isn't fully known what all will be on this platform and which of those specifically these are, this is probably the best place for it.

ricerammer
09-11-2005, 08:38 AM
Holden Monaros/Commodores. Testing for new GM RWD sedans? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

bakerlaw67
09-17-2005, 10:40 PM
OK. The easy part is that its a Flying Spur with Arizona MFR plates. But what's with the exhaust and the trailer hitch that resembles male genitalia?<p><A HREF="http://photobucket.com/albums/v221/bakerlaw67/bentley/" TARGET="_blank">http://photobucket.com/albums/...tley/</A><p><IMG SRC="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v221/bakerlaw67/bentley/BigSurf010.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>** MODS please resize ***

RikfromBelgium
09-18-2005, 09:17 AM
mule for the SUV?

protocatcher
09-18-2005, 12:34 PM
My guess is that the mules for the SUV will be on Touareg basis .

bakerlaw67
09-18-2005, 01:29 PM
It was fully finished inside and took off like a bat out of hell! Definitely the fastest (and quietest) sedan I have ever seen.

Ascariss
09-18-2005, 01:31 PM
interesting, is the ride height the same? but then I assume hte flyr spur has air suspension?<p>edit, after reading ur post again, i would maybe assume a new engine or some kind of a sport model?

bakerlaw67
09-18-2005, 01:54 PM
Ride height is the same. Did sound like air suspension pumping up when he started it up.

Ascariss
09-18-2005, 02:11 PM
Well, I've been talking to am2k, and what he has come up with is that it could be a mule for the new arnage, with a new engine. I would have to agree with his idea, what else could this be? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

AM2K
09-18-2005, 03:58 PM
bakerlaw, because you say it was really quiet, i think that eliminates the prospect of a diesel. So perhaps it could be testing a new form of the W12 engine, or maybe even a W16, which is expected in the next gen Arnage... but ascariss did raise the point earlier that it may be a bit too large an engine for this car...<p>Was there any extra cooling vents at the front? or slightly odd body panelling? The fact its testing via towing could hint at engine / powertrain testing.

bakerlaw67
09-18-2005, 05:57 PM
Definitely NOT a diesel. I was 5 ft away when it started, and it neither sounded nor smelled like an oil burner. I ran out of space on my camera just as I went to take a pic of the front, and then he was gone.

knicks125
09-19-2005, 07:24 AM
Any clue what this is?<p><A HREF="http://www.kiacarman.com/vboard_pic/upfile/s(56).jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.kiacarman.com/vboar...).jpg</A><p>My guess would be some kind of Kia vehicle, given the website and the plate, but you guess is as good as mine <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

AM2K
09-19-2005, 09:40 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>bakerlaw67</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Definitely NOT a diesel. I was 5 ft away when it started, and it neither sounded nor smelled like an oil burner. I ran out of space on my camera just as I went to take a pic of the front, and then he was gone.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>What did the front look like? Any new bonnet bulges or grilles? Or extra gaps for cooling?

protocatcher
09-19-2005, 10:25 AM
Could be an older prototype , they still drive them if they continue testing .

Max Headroom
09-19-2005, 12:05 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Any clue what this is?<p><A HREF="http://www.kiacarman.com/vboard_pic/upfile/s(56).jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.kiacarman.com/vboar...).jpg</A><p>My guess would be some kind of Kia vehicle, given the website and the plate, but you guess is as good as mine <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Its the Daewoo/Chevi/Opel SUV called S3X/Frontera.

flypinoy7
09-20-2005, 10:27 PM
i know these pics may be crappy, but im just gonna post them for the sake of anyone else who saw them and may know their info...1 suv, 1 sedan, followed by a new is sedan...<p><A HREF="http://www.msprotege.com/members/fLyPiNoY7/Image000.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.msprotege.com/membe...0.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.msprotege.com/members/fLyPiNoY7/Image001.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.msprotege.com/membe...1.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.msprotege.com/members/fLyPiNoY7/Image002.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.msprotege.com/membe...2.jpg</A><p>i saw these on the 605 freeway near cerritos auto square in cerritos, ca on monday, sept 12...today i saw them again in the rowland heights, ca area along with a 2nd draped suv...<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by flypinoy7 at 10:36 PM 9/20/2005</i>

Max Headroom
09-20-2005, 10:48 PM
The black sedan seems to be the new Camry, the white one is the Lexus IS but the SUV... some other Toyota... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

flypinoy7
09-21-2005, 10:47 PM
cool...yeah, it seemed like the suv was shaped like the fj cruiser or new rav4 or something...

AM2K
09-22-2005, 05:56 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>koenigseggccr</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Unfortunately, it was only a white 2006 325i with black tape on the sides and covered-up taillights with New Jersey plates. It was travelling the opposite direction when I was on the highway so I couldn't get any pictures. I thought the 3-series wagon was already out in the states, but maybe they were doing some final testing. Maybe were they testing the aero kit, like the one in this pic:<p><A HREF="http://www.uploadthis.co.uk/uploads/tmi1874/File0001.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.uploadthis.co.uk/up...1.jpg</A><p>edit: just realized i posted this is spyshots instead of the lounge; mods, could you please move it to its proper location??? thanks, and sorry <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><br>

Miyka'el
09-22-2005, 08:57 AM
Perhaps this isn't a spy shot, but I was wondering: what's the SUV on the the far right is this photo:<br><A HREF="http://www.bobaedream.com/board/data/data_view.php?code=national&No=55683&page=1&select=&content=&r_no=8&search_gubun=&s_pagescale=&search_day=" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bobaedream.com/boar..._day=</A>...<br>...the background in this image:<br><A HREF="http://www.bobaedream.com/board/data/data_view.php?code=national&No=55682&page=1&select=&content=&r_no=9&search_gubun=&s_pagescale=&search_day=" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bobaedream.com/boar..._day=</A>...<br>...and the far left in this one:<br><A HREF="http://www.bobaedream.com/board/data/data_view.php?code=national&No=55681&page=1&select=&content=&r_no=10&search_gubun=&s_pagescale=&search_day=" TARGET="_blank">http://www.bobaedream.com/boar..._day=</A>?<p>Mike

carrera4
09-22-2005, 09:04 AM
looks like the ssangyong rexton

Miyka'el
09-22-2005, 09:21 AM
An RX290, it is! <p><A HREF="http://www.smotor.com/en/showroom/rexton/main.jsp" TARGET="_blank">http://www.smotor.com/en/showroom/rexton/main.jsp</A><p>Thanks, Andrew!<br>Mike

carrera4
09-22-2005, 09:26 AM
you're welcome: that car is quite common here in italy <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emwink.gif" BORDER="0">

ricerammer
09-25-2005, 07:38 AM
well, the first thing I noticed is the unique cut line on the mineral gray. After looking at front shape and comparing pictures, I have come to a conclusion that these are two seperate SUVs on the same platform. Maybe a Opel Frontera and a new Isuzu? But, it appears they have Kia wheels. Maybe a new Tuscon based SUV for Kia?

Chicho
10-20-2005, 07:33 AM
no that's opel/chevrolet/daewoo suv

rallyfreak
11-03-2005, 05:42 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>flypinoy7</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i know these pics may be crappy, but im just gonna post them for the sake of anyone else who saw them and may know their info...1 suv, 1 sedan, followed by a new is sedan...<p><A HREF="http://www.msprotege.com/members/fLyPiNoY7/Image000.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.msprotege.com/membe...0.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.msprotege.com/members/fLyPiNoY7/Image001.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.msprotege.com/membe...1.jpg</A><br><A HREF="http://www.msprotege.com/members/fLyPiNoY7/Image002.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://www.msprotege.com/membe...2.jpg</A><p>i saw these on the 605 freeway near cerritos auto square in cerritos, ca on monday, sept 12...today i saw them again in the rowland heights, ca area along with a 2nd draped suv...<p><br><i>Modified by flypinoy7 at 10:36 PM 9/20/2005</i></TD></TR></TABLE><p>The SUV is probably the new Highlander, which is based off the Camry platform. I'm still waiting with baited breath to see and drive the new Camry, from the spy shots out there it looks much more appealing than the current car.

LEXUS FAN!
11-07-2005, 11:02 PM
actually...<p>the sedan is the camry, and the SUV is the new RAV4, and the white one is the IS<p>they were posted on some other forum...that is what they are

bmwm5lover
11-16-2005, 11:46 AM
i think that this shell may be a facelifted model of the just released 3 series. ive heard of car companyies planning facelifted models of cars just released to bridge that gap in a cars lifespan until a totally new model is released. example being the last generation 3 series which had a facelift to the front lights bumper and real light and bumper. then again maybe i'm wrong..what do all of you think? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

knicks125
11-18-2005, 12:10 PM
Taken from the Corolla thread: <A HREF="http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=15460&page=4" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carspyshots.net/zer...age=4</A><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Renov526</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What is this car?<p><A HREF="http://autospy.dreamwiz.com/board/bbs.php?table=spyshot2&query=view&uid=647&p=1" TARGET="_blank">http://autospy.dreamwiz.com/bo...7&p=1</A><br></TD></TR></TABLE><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>FordRules</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thats the new chevy epica.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Does look awfully similar to the Daewoo Mangus/Chevy Evanda (Epica)<p>Here is the thread: <A HREF="http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=16023&page=1" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carspyshots.net/zer...age=1</A><p>Confirmation??

Reppu
11-19-2005, 12:49 AM
Hi all, new topic<p>It happens that we went out of space in my company, which is located side to side to Nissan facilities in Madrid. There is an engine production plant and a small test track there. It also happens that we have rented an office to Nissan, and it also happens that my window is right in front of the track, just 20-30 meters away. Coooool.<p>Now, lately i've seen some prototypes driving around the track:<p>- Nissan Note, both disguised and undisguised units. No interest in that, belongs another place<p>- A red undisguised sedan which had exactly the same front than the Tiida, but from the distance looked smaller in length yet still very very tall. I don't remember if the current Tiida has sedan version. I'd like to see it to compare with what i saw.<p>- A mule under the X-Trail body, but with big round headlights, a bigger and taller front bumper, and most of all much bigger and prominent hood. MAybe some engine testing? Anybody heard of any of the latter?<p>Another question. I'm hesitant to take pics and post them because they would be taken from INSIDE the facilities, which is restricted (it is written everywhere). However, i'm no Nissan employee, and i've not signed any agreement on the matter. Any advise on this anyone?

against the wall
11-19-2005, 09:17 AM
so are you saying that your office is inside the facility and not on the perimeter of it? if you are on the perimeter then i guess you could take pictures. plus, i thought if it inside the facility you can take them but ur just not allowed to sell them. am i right?

caarmike
11-19-2005, 07:54 PM
<br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>- A red undisguised sedan which had exactly the same front than the Tiida, but from the distance looked smaller in length yet still very very tall. I don't remember if the current Tiida has sedan version. I'd like to see it to compare with what i saw.<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>This is probably the the car known to the US and Mexico as the Versa Sedan. Check the thread on it under here: <A HREF="http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=16915" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=16915</A>

Reppu
11-20-2005, 04:04 AM
Yup. i'm quite sure it was the Versa Sedan on the track.

pierre
11-21-2005, 12:55 PM
Hi,<p>Shot these pics last Thursday near Zrich (Switzerland). Any idea what this is?<p>Thanks!<br>--Pierre<p><br><A HREF="http://www.sw2.ch/pics/Img_2175_2.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1734/Img_2175_2.th.jpg" BORDER="0"></A> <A HREF="http://www.sw2.ch/pics/Img_2174_2.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1096/Img_2174_2.th.jpg" BORDER="0"></A> <A HREF="http://www.sw2.ch/pics/Img_2173.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/8577/Img_2173.th.jpg" BORDER="0"></A> <A HREF="http://www.sw2.ch/pics/Img_2172.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3285/Img_2172.th.jpg" BORDER="0"></A> <A HREF="http://www.sw2.ch/pics/Img_2171.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/5274/Img_2171.th.jpg" BORDER="0"></A><br>

Nath
11-21-2005, 01:02 PM
Opel Antera, Chevy/Daewoo S3X

pierre
11-21-2005, 01:28 PM
WOW, that was quick! Thanks!<p>Looks like the S3X is a good candidate: <A HREF="http://forums.autoweek.com/thread.jspa?forumID=31&threadID=13786" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.autoweek.com/thr...13786</A>&<p>--p

short5
11-21-2005, 09:34 PM
These cars were spotted in bethesda Md. getting on interstate 495. All had Michigan manufacturer tags<p>The problem is I'm not sure how to post an image here<p>

knicks125
11-21-2005, 09:41 PM
post where the file is located (url)...then you are all set...no need for image tags <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beigesmilewinkgrin.gif" BORDER="0">

short5
11-21-2005, 09:42 PM
It's on my hard drive. I can't upload it?

knicks125
11-21-2005, 09:46 PM
You may upload through these sites:<p><A HREF="http://www.photobucket.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.photobucket.com</A><br><A HREF="http://www.imageshack.us" TARGET="_blank">http://www.imageshack.us</A><p>or other similar hosting sites.<p>Oh yeah, be sure too watermark your pic for copyright. Let us know if you need any help!!<p>Welcome to CSS by the way!! Please enjoy your stay!!

ToyotaFreak
11-21-2005, 09:47 PM
EDIT: Edited for typo by TF<p>EDIT2: D'OH! Someone mentioned it already......

short5
11-21-2005, 09:52 PM
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short5
11-21-2005, 09:53 PM
ok a bit small but thnks for the help...let me work on this<br>

short5
11-21-2005, 09:54 PM
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short5
11-21-2005, 09:56 PM
all images copyrighted please don't repost

short5
11-21-2005, 09:56 PM
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short5
11-21-2005, 10:00 PM
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short5
11-21-2005, 10:02 PM
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short5
11-21-2005, 10:03 PM
<br>all images copyrighted please don't repost<p><A HREF="http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/9748/112005011small8qu.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://img512.imageshack.us/im...u.jpg</A>

JBlair
11-21-2005, 10:08 PM
Its the Kia Optima replacement, which has already been seen. (find the link if you want)

short5
11-21-2005, 10:11 PM
Why do they cover it if it's been seen?

PlatForm
11-22-2005, 01:19 AM
short5,what kind of question you asking??<p>maybe you're not lucky be'coz when u saw the car,it ws covered. but some on CSS member had caught this car uncovered.<p><br>"all images copyrighted please don't repost"<br>--i suggest you write your name on the photo.<p>dont post that kind of words again.

nismo
11-22-2005, 01:23 AM
I hope they offer the KDM taillights from the Lotze for NA.... those look so good. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> They make the car that much sportier and its makes it look even less like the Sonata.

Andre
11-22-2005, 02:32 AM
lol<p>Guys, the European and Korean versions of this car are on sale, but not the North American version, so don't be so hard on him. he did exactly as we wanted and brought us pictures of a car with coverings.<p>thanks short5, keep up the shooting!

short5
11-22-2005, 02:41 PM
thnks Andre...this is not my hobby (or life like some here) but as a spot news photographer I was sharp enough to see the manufacturer tags and covering so I shot a few candids. I did a little looking and ended up here. What I was asking,Platform, was for some information to fullfill my curiosity. Like...Why are 6 manufacture cars in Md. and why is one covered? I thought that was clear.

knicks125
11-22-2005, 03:03 PM
All six, from one of the images you posted, are Hyundai/Kia products. The Optima, which is the covered, has not yet made its North America debut; and it will do so this Jan. in Detroit.

short5
11-22-2005, 03:05 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>knicks125</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">All six, from one of the images you posted, are Hyundai/Kia products. The Optima, which is the covered, has not yet made its North America debut; and it will do so this Jan. in Detroit.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Thats what I was looking for thanks for the response.

knicks125
11-22-2005, 03:08 PM
No problem. Good catch there, by the way <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">

WOB
11-30-2005, 11:54 AM
<A HREF="http://www.ewanskelly.net/picture.php?cat=41&image_id=380" TARGET="_blank">http://www.ewanskelly.net/pict...d=380</A><br><A HREF="http://www.ewanskelly.net/picture.php?cat=41&image_id=381" TARGET="_blank">http://www.ewanskelly.net/pict...d=381</A>

caarmike
12-01-2005, 05:46 PM
I can't access the shots.

WOB
12-02-2005, 05:38 AM
it is necessary that you is recorded.<br>you a mall of confirmation will recevera. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/bangin.gif" BORDER="0">

WOB
12-02-2005, 05:43 AM
<A HREF="http://images5.theimagehosting.com/IMG_5728.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://images5.theimagehosting.com/IMG_5728.jpg</A><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by knicks125 at 8:36 AM 12/2/2005</i>

WOB
12-02-2005, 05:47 AM
<A HREF="http://images5.theimagehosting.com/IMG_5729.1.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://images5.theimagehosting.com/IMG_5729.1.jpg</A><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/images/smilies/sponge.gif" BORDER="0"> <br> tien here images of the 4x4<br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/images/smilies/sponge.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by knicks125 at 8:37 AM 12/2/2005</i>

WOB
12-02-2005, 05:53 AM
<A HREF="http://images5.theimagehosting.com/Img_2172.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://images5.theimagehosting.com/Img_2172.jpg</A><br> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/icondrool.gif" BORDER="0"> <br><A HREF="http://images5.theimagehosting.com/Img_2174_2.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://images5.theimagehosting.com/Img_2174_2.jpg</A><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by knicks125 at 8:37 AM 12/2/2005</i>

~*~STORM~*~
12-02-2005, 05:57 AM
its the 2007/8 Chevrolet/Daewoo/Opel(Frontera)/Saturn(Vue) S3X-based SUVs <p>thread <A HREF="http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=14481" TARGET="_blank">http://www.carspyshots.net/zerothread?id=14481</A>

against the wall
12-02-2005, 01:34 PM
that specific shot is of the vue probably. see the what would be chrome strip on the grille in the 1st pic posted? and also the space connected to the strip where the saturn logo would go.

Chris_Doane
12-03-2005, 08:43 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>yanksrule26</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that specific shot is of the vue probably. see the what would be chrome strip on the grille in the 1st pic posted? and also the space connected to the strip where the saturn logo would go.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>No thats the Daewoo model. I know it looks like Saturn but I saw a ton of those Daewoo prototypes this year.

against the wall
12-03-2005, 08:55 PM
i thought gm was starting to shy away from rebadging. funny how it started as a chevy and then it went to the antara now its a chevy, a saturn, an opel, and a daewoo.

olav mol
12-05-2005, 08:34 AM
<A HREF="http://images5.theimagehosting.com/IMG_5728.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://images5.theimagehosting.com/IMG_5728.jpg</A> <br>This is a new Mercedes, look at the grill.<br>Underneeth that tape is a Mercedes-star. And the grilltype is ML-ish.

Pedigreepaul
12-05-2005, 11:13 AM
NO way..<p>This is clearly a S3X derivate.. Just look at the picture and compare it with these one's. <br><A HREF="http://www.autoweek.nl/newsimages.php?ID=2789&p=1&ref=" TARGET="_blank">http://www.autoweek.nl/newsima...&ref=</A><p>The headlights are the same and so is the rest of the car!

WOB
12-05-2005, 11:29 AM
for time one will say quil has star of Mercedes<br>well there above finally good...

Santeno
12-05-2005, 11:41 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>olav mol</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><A HREF="http://images5.theimagehosting.com/IMG_5728.jpg" TARGET="_blank">http://images5.theimagehosting.com/IMG_5728.jpg</A> <br>This is a new Mercedes, look at the grill.<br>Underneeth that tape is a Mercedes-star. And the grilltype is ML-ish.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>as was said by the others, it's most definitely not an MB product. an easy way to tell would be to look at the rear view mirrors. MB doesn't use mirrors like those on any of it's passenger vehicles. As the others have said, this is most likely one of the s3x derivatives from GM.