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Gian86
02-16-2005, 03:38 AM
Here's this concept from Peugeot designer contest and it will be shown at Geneva next month.<p><IMG SRC="http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/sixcms/media.php/23/ei1_450.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/sixcms/media.php/23/ei2_450.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Source: AMS

DaDesign
02-16-2005, 07:48 AM
it looks cool, but how does it move? hober or something? the overall design could work very well with a normal cae

ll0ll
02-16-2005, 08:58 AM
To see the others.<br><A HREF="http://www.peugeot-concours-design.com/index_en.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://www.peugeot-concours-de...n.htm</A>

JBlair
02-16-2005, 09:14 AM
Thats idiotic. There were other designs that were much, much better (hussein's included), that should have won instead of this hunk of plastic junk.

Naga Royal Guard
02-16-2005, 09:17 AM
perfume case?

bm88
02-16-2005, 10:16 AM
Firstly, hard luck hussein...<p>Secondly, this thing is wierd, and I arent liking it at all. <p>Doesnt hover, has two wheels...guessing its a new pumped up Segway!

pcread
02-16-2005, 10:19 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Naga Royal Guard</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">perfume case?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>looks like a pregnant mobile phone.

Naga Royal Guard
02-16-2005, 10:21 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>pcread</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">looks like a pregnant mobile phone.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>i think its cool, but not as a car; maybe a tapemeasure <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/crying.gif" BORDER="0">

Santeno
02-16-2005, 10:31 AM
I was thinking it might be a watch case. as a vehicle design it's just useless. It does however include some nice little elements that could make the trip to a proper peugeot design (such as the integration of the two color tones, the rear taillights merging into the logo, and the chrome band streching from the headlights and into the roofline).

pandorama
02-16-2005, 11:32 AM
Don't forget basically design is not making beautiful cars... It would be stupid to put some chrome just to put some chrome!! I love this concept (yes, a concept, not a drawing), a great idea if tou ask me, and much better than a "i've seen it 1000 times" 907...

bm88
02-16-2005, 11:46 AM
I just thought of a really important point.<p>Since the sides are kinda filled with the wheels, wheres the door?

ToronadoGT
02-16-2005, 05:16 PM
Absolutely stupid. What are the contest judges smoking?<p>I hated last year's winner, but it's a work of friggin' art comapred to this! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/pukeface.gif" BORDER="0">

Buster
02-16-2005, 06:18 PM
It looks like a stylish carpet sweeper with the handle broken off. Are there any pictures that show a real car next to it? It is too hard to get a feel for it on it's own.

knicks125
02-16-2005, 06:30 PM
i have one word and a lot of question marks<p>uh?????????<p>it looks nice but can't figure out what is it, it's a concept car? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1zhelp.gif" BORDER="0">

DoMiNo
02-16-2005, 06:35 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JBlair</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thats idiotic. There were other designs that were much, much better (hussein's included), that should have won instead of this hunk of plastic junk. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Wow, yea. I cannot believe that this thing made it. Just goes to show the power of a really good rendering.

Ascariss
02-16-2005, 06:44 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Gian05</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here's this concept from Peugeot designer contest and it will be shown at Geneva next month.</TD></TR></TABLE><p><A HREF="http://www.automotorundsport.de/d/76716/d_ams_news_special_ha" TARGET="_blank">http://www.automotorundsport.d...al_ha</A><p>according to this, isn't it going to be shown at frankfurt? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/nixweiss.gif" BORDER="0">

Gian86
02-17-2005, 12:59 AM
Well, you might be right but Peugeot Moovie is one of them that list all cars on geneva motor show page on AMS:<p><A HREF="http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/d/72195" TARGET="_blank">http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/d/72195</A><p>Maybe they show all finalist and winner cars in IAA in september the but only the winner of peugeot design contest (Moovie) will be Geneva for sure (Maybe i'm wrong) <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Gian05 at 6:05 PM 2/17/2005</i>

MrMGMan
02-17-2005, 07:04 AM
Reminds me of one of those Dymo label printers. Are Peugeot planning to branch out into home stationery supplies? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/laugh2.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by MrMGMan at 6:09 AM 2/17/2005</i>

knihc2008
02-18-2005, 02:12 AM
THAT!? oh man. hussein got thieved.

whipster
02-18-2005, 05:53 AM
A soap box

husseindesign
02-18-2005, 07:09 PM
The disrtictve fike of the Moovie (aka 3007 Mobility):<p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Concept 3007 Mobility <p>- The main idea behind this project was to create a small 2 seated city car powered by electric power.<br>What shaped the visual look on the vehicle was the two big electric wheels with hollow rim, these wheels are hollow in the middle, this is where the doors of the car are located, the vehicle has like this big doors allowing the users to have enough space to enter and exit the vehicle.<br>The big wheels have a reason behind it, the bigger the wheel less turns it has to make to travel, less turns less energy expended.<br>The front of the vehicle is supported by two spheres, these are purely for support, the car turns by a system that makes one electric wheel go faster then the other, this system allows the vehicle in some cases to make 360 turns which is great for parking and moving in small city streets.<br>Also and to enhance the stability of the vehicle, the wheels make a angle of about 10 closing on the top.<br>The two big round doors slide along the side-front of the car to waste less space in small parking spaces, allowing a better exit at all times. The review mirrors fold up to avoid touching the doors during the side slide.<p>- Dimensions: about 2.300 mm in lenght, 1.500 mm in width and 1.500 in height.<p>- The name: the little story behind the name (3007 Mobility)<br>The first 2 seat car by Peugeot was 1007 on the 2000 years, so 3007 seemed appropriate, the word "Mobility" is infact the word i think describes the car better.<p>The end.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Although it seems to have some innovative ideas, think it didn't deserve winning. Subjective reason: that thing is ugly! Objective reason: it doesn't fit the contest brief of desgning a car for the "near future"<p>The winner will be awarded and presented (with the other 10 finalists) in Geneva and the 1:1 model will be presented as a Peugeot Concept in Frankfurt in September.<p>Congrats to the winnew anyway. it wasn't his fault that his concept won!<br>

Gunfire
03-06-2005, 06:37 PM
Could not agree more on everything said here.<p>Honestly, Peugeot contest started as a brilliant thing, but it is sort of losing credibility as the years pass by...

Gian86
08-27-2005, 02:01 AM
New photos of Moovie concept is avalable here.<p><A HREF="http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/news/auto_und_produkte/peugeot_design_award_studie_moovie.89841.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://www.auto-motor-und-spor...1.htm</A>

bm88
08-27-2005, 06:50 AM
I would consider it as a greenhouse in my gardern, but thats about it...

drugmirko
08-29-2005, 05:13 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>husseindesign</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The disrtictve fike of the Moovie (aka 3007 Mobility):<p>Although it seems to have some innovative ideas, think it didn't deserve winning. Subjective reason: that thing is ugly! Objective reason: it doesn't fit the contest brief of desgning a car for the "near future"<p>The winner will be awarded and presented (with the other 10 finalists) in Geneva and the 1:1 model will be presented as a Peugeot Concept in Frankfurt in September.<p>Congrats to the winnew anyway. it wasn't his fault that his concept won!<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>okay... I definitely aggrie with objective reason... on subjective side... I kind of like it. it have bals&caracter... nice "out of the box" thinking. didn't you entred that competition?<p><br>nad some more pics:<p>source: <A HREF="http://www.conceptcars-peugeot.com" TARGET="_blank">http://www.conceptcars-peugeot.com</A>/<p><IMG SRC="http://www.conceptcars-peugeot.com/modeles/Moovie/Galerie/images/09.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.conceptcars-peugeot.com/modeles/Moovie/Galerie/images/01.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.conceptcars-peugeot.com/modeles/Moovie/Galerie/images/02.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.conceptcars-peugeot.com/modeles/Moovie/Galerie/images/05.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.conceptcars-peugeot.com/modeles/Moovie/Galerie/images/12.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://www.conceptcars-peugeot.com/modeles/Moovie/Galerie/images/11.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>

taskbearer
08-29-2005, 04:48 PM
Seeing the built concept changes all my negative views about this design. It looks better than the original renders(rarely the case). Would definitely make frankfurt very exiting, because it looks like a real concept , something that has been missing in autoshows for a while now. Although I don't expect it to even dream of production.

syclone
09-01-2005, 01:06 PM
I agree - it does look much better now that it is not just a render. If they built it I might actually consider buying one - but it would have to be cheap. Tinted glass would help too.

ll0ll
09-02-2005, 01:19 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>husseindesign</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The disrtictve fike of the Moovie (aka 3007 Mobility):<br>Congrats to the winnew anyway. it wasn't his fault that his concept won!<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>I think this is very childish of you. I understand you joined the competition with the 909? I think the moovie is a fresh look at automobile. It shows automotive is possible in other ways then for example a sportish been-there-done-that design as your 909. Whats futuristic about your mercedes?

taskbearer
09-02-2005, 06:31 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ll0ll</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think this is very childish of you. I understand you joined the competition with the 909? I think the moovie is a fresh look at automobile. It shows automotive is possible in other ways then for example a sportish been-there-done-that design as your 909. Whats futuristic about your mercedes?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>You probably have no idea what the theme of the contest was. It was to design a car that <B>could be built in 5 years</B>. Apparently the Judges did not take that part into consideration when making their decisions. I do like the movie concept for its uniqueness, but in regards to the competition, theres no way it can be built within the timeframe given. This thread was a discussion about the moovie so your litlle smart comment about the mercedes is pointless, if you wanted to bash him why not just send an email?

ll0ll
09-04-2005, 02:36 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>taskbearer</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>You probably have no idea what the theme of the contest was. It was to design a car that <B>could be built in 5 years</B>. Apparently the Judges did not take that part into consideration when making their decisions. I do like the movie concept for its uniqueness, but in regards to the competition, theres no way it can be built within the timeframe given. This thread was a discussion about the moovie so your litlle smart comment about the mercedes is pointless, if you wanted to bash him why not just send an email?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>?? Where did you get the part "5 years"? The theme is:<br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">After the future of 2020 and back to the future, this year's subject is a basic thinking about a future that is nearer, more accessible and concrete.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>When you look at the smart, i think this 1007 could be a very good 'nearer, more accessible and concrete'-design.<p>I think hussein lets his subjective reasons trouble his judgement, and leaves him a bad loser. Really, i think this 1007 is a true winner. When i have to judge husseins design as an outsider, i have seen it all before.

husseindesign
09-04-2005, 03:55 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ll0ll</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think this is very childish of you. I understand you joined the competition with the 909? I think the moovie is a fresh look at automobile. It shows automotive is possible in other ways then for example a sportish been-there-done-that design as your 909. Whats futuristic about your mercedes?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Let's some clearness here before getting rude. Read my reply again befor commenting. I said that I like the idea of the concept. And I like it even more after I've seen the model built and it weakened my subjective opinion. I respect the work and effort of every designere because I believe that everyone gave their best in this contest.<br>I share my objective opinion about the winning of this cocept (not the concept itself) with thousands of others who were dissappointed with the result of such an important contest. People like you would say that we're frustrated because we did not qualify. I said before that I was so dissappointed with the choice of the judges that I even don't understand how they picked my 909 with it's quite normal shape a its innovation-less concept. It was one of 4 entries I sent. The other three were far more innovative in terms of design. I won't go so deep and claim that Peugeot were looking for good ideas for less mony so they organized this contest, like many others say. I don't like conspiracy theories.<br>Read the the the theme of the contest you qouted. In this contest, designers should do something different that what they did in the previous two. Now look at the Moovie again and tell me: when do you think such cars will be available to the public? And when will people buy such a car? The customers needs to gotten used to shapes. Why, in your opinion, do concept cars with exteremely unusual shapes need at least 10 year till you can buy a car that looks slightly similar to them in a more conservative way? Now considering all this answer my first question please. My answer would be: not eralier than 20 years from now. that means 2025 at least. is that a near future? I don't think so. Read the them again.<br>I'm not defending myself with this reply. My opinion is my openion whatever you say about it and I don't have to give reasons. I'm just giving arguments like a civilized adult.

Comrade
09-04-2005, 08:42 AM
This "automotive" being built the way it is impossible even by 2030. Road surfaces would have to be supersmooth. It doesn't even have a suspension! At a higher speed it would tip over and on every bump and shake the passengers and itself into pieces at lower speeds on a normal city road. Vehicles like these are only drive-albe in closed facilities at low speeds. This winning concept itself is childish.<br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ll0ll</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>I think this is very childish of you. I understand you joined the competition with the 909? I think the moovie is a fresh look at automobile. It shows automotive is possible in other ways then for example a sportish been-there-done-that design as your 909. Whats futuristic about your mercedes?</TD></TR></TABLE>

bm88
09-04-2005, 09:58 AM
I can never see people driving around in a giant fish bowl, thats my main issue with this concept.<p>The whole point about having a car is that its your space, and its private, but with this there is so much glass you can see everything, which to me is an unnatractive feature. <p>In the concept stages when you couldnt see the interior, it did look good, but there were some far superior entries.<p>On another note, the interior looks like its been cut from a piece of cheese.<p>Where are the wheels of this car? Does it run around on castors? :P

Ascariss
09-04-2005, 10:45 AM
Looks like a large vaccuum cleaner. Does it come with a filter. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/all_coholic.gif" BORDER="0"> Sorry pug could have gone with a better choice.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Ascariss at 1:59 PM 9/4/2005</i>

drugmirko
09-04-2005, 12:23 PM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Ascariss</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks like a large vaccuum cleaner. Does it come with a filter. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/all_coholic.gif" BORDER="0"> Sorry pug could have gon with a better choice.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>yeah! that was my first association too! especially when I saw it's model after the competition photos were presented.<p><IMG SRC="http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/5368/clipboard015dq.png" BORDER="0"><p>but I like it anyway... really wacky idea! and in full size, it looks even wackier! my favorit of the commpetition was that young Croat's work that slightly resembled Exelero (gille&stuf...)...

Comrade
09-04-2005, 12:33 PM
<IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><br>where can i see pics of other entries? the link on the 1st page is not working for me, it keeps reloading constantly

Gian86
09-04-2005, 07:08 PM
It looks bit like Dyson's idea for vacuum cleaners when they made it in 80's. Overall i love that concept, this will be one of interesting concept cars of this decade.

ll0ll
09-05-2005, 12:25 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>husseindesign</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Let's some clearness here before getting rude. Read my reply again befor commenting. I said that I like the idea of the concept. And I like it even more after I've seen the model built and it weakened my subjective opinion. I respect the work and effort of every designere because I believe that everyone gave their best in this contest.<br>I share my objective opinion about the winning of this cocept (not the concept itself) with thousands of others who were dissappointed with the result of such an important contest. People like you would say that we're frustrated because we did not qualify. I said before that I was so dissappointed with the choice of the judges that I even don't understand how they picked my 909 with it's quite normal shape a its innovation-less concept. It was one of 4 entries I sent. The other three were far more innovative in terms of design. I won't go so deep and claim that Peugeot were looking for good ideas for less mony so they organized this contest, like many others say. I don't like conspiracy theories.<br>Read the the the theme of the contest you qouted. In this contest, designers should do something different that what they did in the previous two. Now look at the Moovie again and tell me: when do you think such cars will be available to the public? And when will people buy such a car? The customers needs to gotten used to shapes. Why, in your opinion, do concept cars with exteremely unusual shapes need at least 10 year till you can buy a car that looks slightly similar to them in a more conservative way? Now considering all this answer my first question please. My answer would be: not eralier than 20 years from now. that means 2025 at least. is that a near future? I don't think so. Read the them again.<br>I'm not defending myself with this reply. My opinion is my openion whatever you say about it and I don't have to give reasons. I'm just giving arguments like a civilized adult.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Well, maybe my mercedes comment was out of line, my appology for that, but still i think the moovie is a good winner. When i read the theme article ( <A HREF="http://www.peugeot-concours-design.com/en/journal/voir_article.aspx?id=1" TARGET="_blank">http://www.peugeot-concours-de...?id=1</A> ), i read: <p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>this year you have to design a car which reconciles your expectations, your interests and your automotive sensibilities. For this 3rd competition, you set your own specifications! Drawing on your imagination, design the Peugeot of your dreams for the near future.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>"You set your own specifications". In the near future, a car with your own specifications, why couldnt a car like this moovie be build? I think people who think its impossible arent openminded enough to even join a contest like this.

drugmirko
09-05-2005, 12:35 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Comrade</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/1orglaugh.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><br>where can i see pics of other entries? the link on the 1st page is not working for me, it keeps reloading constantly</TD></TR></TABLE><p>well there was a thread with them. I've posted them in concept cars, but it was moved somewhere else... sketches or oficcial design something... but that was on old forum I think....<p>here, try this! it's even better than my old thread <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> :<p><A HREF="http://www.peugeot-concours-design.com/index_en.htm" TARGET="_blank">http://www.peugeot-concours-de...n.htm</A><p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/ylsuper.gif" BORDER="0"> <BR><BR>
<i>Modified by drugmirko at 12:42 AM 9/5/2005</i>

husseindesign
09-06-2005, 03:24 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ll0ll</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, maybe my mercedes comment was out of line, my appology for that, but still i think the moovie is a good winner. </TD></TR></TABLE><br>You obviously haven't read my reply at all. Perhaps only the first two lines. Please read it again. I was not talking about your Mercedes comment for 2 reasons. First I have no idea what you are talking about, and secound this is not the right place to discuss it. Read the reply again and then tell me what's your definition -in numbers- of the expression "near futeur"

ll0ll
09-06-2005, 03:44 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>husseindesign</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>You obviously haven't read my reply at all. Perhaps only the first two lines. Please read it again. I was not talking about your Mercedes comment for 2 reasons. First I have no idea what you are talking about, and secound this is not the right place to discuss it. Read the reply again and then tell me what's your definition -in numbers- of the expression "near futeur"</TD></TR></TABLE><p>You were saying you gave your arguments as an adult, refering to my (inadult) mercedes comment in my post earlier, i thought?<p>I have read your reply, and i have searched for the theme defenition at the peugeot design contest website, the link a gave. Not only does it say "near future", it also says:<br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>this year you have to design a car which reconciles your expectations, your interests and your automotive sensibilities. For this 3rd competition, you set your own specifications!<br></TD></TR></TABLE><br>Could it be that you are the one who doesnt understand the contests theme? <p><br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and secound this is not the right place to discuss it. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>?? You started a comment about the winner not deserving to win, with that starting this discussion. Nothing wrong with a discussion about the definition of the contest, is it?

husseindesign
09-06-2005, 04:24 AM
This will go forever.<br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ll0ll</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You were saying you gave your arguments as an adult, refering to my (inadult) mercedes comment in my post earlier, i thought?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>No. Iwas referring to your comment about me being childish for not agreeing with the judges choice, and that I'm bashing the concept because I did not qualify, while I explained my reasons for not accepting the result of the contest, subjectively and objectively. No body here talks about Mercedes except you. And I still have no idea what you mean. This is not the right place to discuss about Mercedes. It's a thread about the contest and the winning design. That was what I was talking about.<br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ll0ll</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this year you have to design a car which reconciles your expectations, your interests and your automotive sensibilities. For this 3rd competition, you set your own specifications!<br></TD></TR></TABLE><br>This is not the official theme. This is what is written in the description of the contest. The official Theme is:<br>DESIGN THE PEUGEOT OF YOUR DREAMS <B>FOR THE NEAR FUTURE</B><br>So, after reading this you should consider everything that follows to be connected to the theme mentioned above. that means: Your Dreams, but for the near future. Your needs, but for the near future. Your speculations, but for the near future.<br>We got further reading the discription:<br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">After the future of 2020 and back to the future, this year's subject is a basic thinking about <B>a future that is nearer</B>, more accessible and concrete.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>A future that is nearer. Nearer than what? 2020. Now tell me when do you think such a car will be for sale.

ll0ll
09-06-2005, 04:44 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>husseindesign</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This will go forever.<br>This is not the official theme. This is what is written in the description of the contest. The official Theme is:<br>DESIGN THE PEUGEOT OF YOUR DREAMS <B>FOR THE NEAR FUTURE</B><br>So, after reading this you should consider everything that follows to be connected to the theme mentioned above. that means: Your Dreams, but for the near future. Your needs, but for the near future. Your speculations, but for the near future.<br>We got further reading the discription:<p>A future that is nearer. Nearer than what? 2020. Now tell me when do you think such a car will be for sale.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Lol, maybe that last one is a slogan. <br>Read what the theme is on this link:<br><A HREF="http://www.peugeot-concours-design.com/en/journal/voir_article.aspx?id=1" TARGET="_blank">http://www.peugeot-concours-de...?id=1</A><br>Seems official to me. You seem to get stuck on the 'near future' part. The 'own specifications', 'your imagination' and 'your dreams' should widen it i think. Apparently you think different about, thats ok, but maybe thats the reason why you didnt win? <br>

husseindesign
09-06-2005, 04:56 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The theme for the 3rd Peugeot Design Competition is now official.<br>After the future in 2020 and retrofuturism, this year you have to design a car which reconciles your expectations, your interests and your automotive sensibilities. For this 3rd competition, you set your own specifications! Drawing on your imagination, design the Peugeot of your dreams for the near future.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>It seems like you have stuck with 'own specifications', 'your imagination' and 'your dreams', while it's abvious that you should read the whole article. Peugeot are not stupid to contradict them selves within few lines.<br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ll0ll</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Apparently you think different about, thats ok, but maybe thats the reason why you didnt win? <br></TD></TR></TABLE><br>I didn't win because my Entry didn't deserve it. I never said -or thought- that I should have won instead of Andr

ll0ll
09-06-2005, 05:19 AM
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>husseindesign</b> &raquo;</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>It seems like you have stuck with 'own specifications', 'your imagination' and 'your dreams', while it's abvious that you should read the whole article. Peugeot are not stupid to contradict them selves within few lines.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><br>No, i think the near future is what you make of it. You dont seem to understand that. I read perfectly in the theme that you can set your own specifications, yet you seem to get stuck on the 'near future' thing, straining yourself. I think thats why the moovie won. That guy did what the theme described.

Santeno
09-06-2005, 06:46 AM
OK, lloll, drop it. You are walking the fine line between valid critique and taunting, and it's starting to turn into the latter. Stick to discussing the concept at hand and leave Hussein alone. Any further posts goading him will be deleted.

erzhik
09-06-2005, 12:48 PM
I like it..It looks good on first 2 pics with tinted widows.. I definitely want one.. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.germancarfans.com/images/forums/beerchug.gif" BORDER="0">